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Transcripts For CNN Anderson Cooper 360 20241006

Cnns new film, Carville Winning is everything stupid Airing Tomorrow Night at seven. Meantime, thanks so much for joining us. Ac360 begins right now president lying about Disaster Relief, while the Death Toll climbs from Hurricane Helene and even some fellow republicans are speaking out, keeping them honest. Also tonight, the Obama Factor in the boost and could give him the Harris Campaign when he hits the trail next week and the Trump Elon Musk bromance, just how much money is most pumping into the campaign. Good evening. Thanks for joining us 32 days until election day. The candidates now making to swing State Campaign stops a day. The former president just wrapped up a Town Hall in fayetteville, North Carolina after visiting georgia at this afternoon, Vice President Harris speaking detroit and flint, michigan, her campaign youre getting a boost from unexpectedly good Job Creation numbers and a dip in the Unemployment Rate over 250,000 jobs created last month. Unemployment fell in just a few weeks ago, the Federal Reserve cut down interest rates, which is going to be great for a lot of folks over the last threeandahalf years, we brought manufacturing back to america we created 730,000 Manufacturing Jobs and announced the opening of more than 20 new Auto Plants in the united states and we did it by Investing In American Industry and american workers the former President S Georgia Visit Showcase to reconciliation of sorts with the states republican governor. Also a briefing, a Hurricane Recovery at what she repeated a false that he has been spreading lately about fema and Disaster Relief money a lot of the money that was supposed to go to georgia and supposed to go to North Carolina and all of the others is going and has gone already has been god for people that came into the country illegally and nobodys ever seen anything like that. Thats a shame. Well, it would be a shame perhaps if it were true, but it is not keeping them honest while fema does manage grants for shelters, housing, and helping migrants that money comes from a separate and unrelated account, which is a former president. He probably knows whether he does actually or not. He repeated the lie later today. This is maybe the worst Hurricane Weve ever had and hes got no money. And we said what happened to them and they were given billions of this. He spent it on illegal migrants coming into the country so that was twice moments ago at his Town Hall, he did it again theyre missing 1 Billion that they gave to migrants coming into our country. So this is not the first lie hes told about the Relief Effort here he is on monday suggesting falsely that president biden wasnt taking calls from Georgia Governor Campus Suggestion as youll see, is debunked or more accurately Pre Bonked by kims own words just hours before the governors doing a very good job, hes having a hard time getting the president , on the phone, i guess not the federal government respond to the president just called me yesterday afternoon. I missed him and called him right back and he just said, hey, what do you need . And i told him, we we got what we need well work through the federal process. He offered that if theres another things that we need just to call them directly, which i appreciate that so georgia republican governor, telling the truth, it seems the parties later lying about it just hours later for political advantage and not for the first time to former Trump Administration officials recently spoke to politicos environmental news unit, quoting from that story mark harvey, who was trumps senior director for Resilience Policy on the national Security Council Staff told Ini News on wednesday that trump initially refused to approve Disaster Aid for california after deadly wildfires in 2018 because of the states democratic leanings. But harvey said trump changed his mind after harvey pulled Voting Results to show him that heavily damaged orange county, california had more trump supporters than the entire state of iowa. Olivia troye, a former Trump Home Glenn security adviser, backs up. Mark Harveys Account and they both told the publication they believe that their old boss is approaching Hurricane Helene with a similar mindset. Even though hes not president now and therefore not making decisions about relief, Money And Disaster declarations. These falsehoods still have impact in the wake of the storm thats already killed more than 200 people without regard the politics. Politics, and politically driven rumors and lies are now so common that fema is spending some of its finite resources and limited time. Maintaining a webpage. This one dedicated specifically to debunking lies, spread most notably by Donald Trump, his Running Mate Jd vance and their supporters again, these are lies damaging because it can hurt our Relief Efforts. It also demoralizes National Guard soldiers who are out here for days and days and people who are working in Emergency Management who are working around the clock to help people. So thats North Carolinas governor and he is a democrat. So some people automatically doubt him, doing the debunking. Republicans are as well. Heres North Thom tillis no. Well, ill be silent. And any areas where we could do better . No. But right now, im out here to say that were doing a good job and those who may not be on the ground who are making those assessments ought to get on the ground so hes republican center recognizing what has always been with rare exceptions, the nonpartisan, nonpolitical reality about Disaster Relief, namely that its a story of hardworking people of all stripes trying to do their best. Maybe imperfect, best under difficult conditions to help everyone they can this morning, glenn jacobs, the republican mayor of knox county, tennessee, posted on social media. Hes the retired wwe wrestler kane, by the way. The first part of his post and for people to quit spreading false rumors about fema. And it stayed counterpart confiscating supplies. The second part reads simply if everyone could maybe please put aside the hate for a Bit And Pitch in to help that would be great. So a lot to talk about tonight. Former harris Communications Director ashley etienne, also, journalist gretchen carlson, cofounder of the nonprofit lift our voices, and cnn senior political commentator, scott jennings. It is gretchen. I mean, its i guess not surprising. But again, in a storm like this with people who are dead, people still missing, people suffering, to have falsehoods put into the mix is just, its kind of icky. And i was about to say that his advisers had a great Day Today because he actually was very reserved for trump, right . He didnt call Liz Cheney stupid. He didnt call Kamala Harris stupid. So he was on his best behavior. However, these lies i think are for one reason only, and that is he is currently women winning on the immigration front and they saw that when they made up the lies about what was going on in springfield with the haitian immigrants that that probably got the base all ginned up, right. And maybe his points even went up on the immigration front and that in my mind is why hes doing this at a Disaster Site because he wants to blame it on sunday the thing that he thinks will get bigger turnout for him in the election. Actually, i mean, do you think trump would be bothering with these baseless claims if the storm didnt hit two key Swing States what would Donald Trump has a pension for is really exploiting peoples pains. Loss of lives, disasters like these for his own political purposes. I mean, you rattled off a couple of great examples. There are others where he denied democratic Governor Cooper after a hurricane matthew, 99 of what the state needed because he was a democratic governor. You remember he mockingly, through Paper Towels in puerto ricans. And so this is what he typically does. He shows up into places like this and exploit peoples pains. He did it after the Train Derailment and in East Palestine and thats really his thats his mo. So rather than doing whats in the interest of the american people, its always about scoring political points with Donald Trump and thats really unfortunate. And im glad both democratic and republican governors are calling him out on it. Scott, i mean, is this appropriate for the former president to be doing . I mean, look, Donald Trump didnt cause this hurricane a b, hes not the current President S see. Joe biden was at the beach and Kamala Harris was raising money with celebrities with this thing, hit. So i mean i think theres legitimate, but hes hes basically trolling the Disaster Relief and recovery and hes not really like adding anything to it. Hes basically just making stuff up for political reasons. No well, i mean, he his campaign as far as i know, it start a gofundme to raise money for victims of it. Hes down there with brian Kemp Today and he was praising brian kemps actions on the recovery. Enjoy Georgia And Kemp thanked him for bringing. Right. But he lied about brian earlier guys want to call it, say that Donald Trump is messing up the hurricane while we have a current administration bidenharris that are in office, you go ahead. I mean its Donald Trump. He has things to say about the things that happened in this world. And its october of a president ial election. So i, you know, i dont know what you want. What do you want him to do . Not comment on it, but just not be sleazy. Is basically giving us a different argument actually, because its something different from saying that democrats or republicans would handle this different and the Relief Effort i mean, have we ever had fema come out and have to say that the money is actually going to Hurricane Relief and not to where Donald Trump says its going and they had to do that today. And i think that that is the classic difference here between how democrats might handle this or how republicans might handle this. I mean, look, i would love to hear scott actually can i can i listen . There has been pointing out theres been plenty of Criticism And Reason to criticize fema i mean, during Hurricane Katrina in the wake of that, if fema came under a lot of a lot of criticism and for very understandable reason should criticize this thing. I just think you dont need to make up stuff to criticize. I mean, if you wanted to talk about some things that are factually correct and that would help the recovery ever get better. I think thats good scott. Yeah, i probably have a Jaundice View of this anderson because because i, you know, i literally lived through Hurricane Katrina in the bush white house. And as i know, you lived through it, anderson covering it and i dont i dont recall any restraint by democrats or the national media coming after George W Bush and fema. And every other thing and was immediately politicized. And i mean, i well remember it, its seared into my brain. And so now all these people are out here saying, we cant politicize this. We cant criticize this. Nothing can be said about Biden And Harris terror fame, or anything else. And i just think we have a republican were in the white house and the republican president were at the beach. And the Vice President were raising money with celebrities. I guarantee you somebody would be mad about it gretchen i do want to play some more of what the from prison had to say about the response we are poisoning our country. Our country is being poisoned, country is being ruined just being ruined by these people and they took billions of dollars and used it for settlements of people that came in, many of which are criminals and the people in North Carolina and South Carolina and georgia and florida, virginia, tennessee theres no money for them and thats proven not to be true today. I mean, i guess that would be my question to scott jennings. Is were not talking about how different parties politicized different things. We all know that happens. The question is, why does trump have to talk about a false Lie Today that this money is going to immigrants legal immigrants. Thats not happening. Ashley, i mean, the former President And Kemp appeared together for the first time today since 2020 camp or rebuffed the foreign President S request overturn the Election Results you think the Harris Campaign should be worried about a popular republican Governor Campaigning with the foreign president , a Battleground State its very concerning, but, the reality is this governors take, hes taking objection to Donald Trump and how he you know, his antics his lies, his desk, and misinformation. I mean, you know that campaign has an opportunity to really continue to utilize kim to point out the fact that its not just democrats, its also these republicans that are, that have had enough with Donald Trump. You know, i think you pointed it out accurately here. Its its not that people have any objections. Its not think he has any objection with how the current administrations handling the recovery, but its more about these lives, and east creating and its not just him, its his Vice President. I mean, theyre just making up stuff and its not an i love scott to death, but like its no excuse to say that its october and this is what we should come to expect from not just Donald Trump, but from any of our leaders. I mean, i dont want to know a liar, let alone let one run my nation my country. I mean, what are you to trust with Donald Trumps . So i think the fact that the two of them are campaigning together allows the campaign, the Harris Campaign has continued to point out the fact that there are republicans that still find Donald Trump objectionable and really open up the Permission Structure for more republicans to come in and support the ticket. Or were going to take a quick break Coming Up next a look ahead at the former President S, obamas upcoming Campaign Marathon to Vice President Harris and their shared journey through political history plus the impact Multibillionaire Elon Musk is having on his friend Carville Winning<\/a> is everything stupid Airing Tomorrow Night<\/a> at seven. Meantime, thanks so much for joining us. Ac360 begins right now president lying about Disaster Relief<\/a>, while the Death Toll<\/a> climbs from Hurricane Helene<\/a> and even some fellow republicans are speaking out, keeping them honest. Also tonight, the Obama Factor<\/a> in the boost and could give him the Harris Campaign<\/a> when he hits the trail next week and the Trump Elon Musk<\/a> bromance, just how much money is most pumping into the campaign. Good evening. Thanks for joining us 32 days until election day. The candidates now making to swing State Campaign<\/a> stops a day. The former president just wrapped up a Town Hall<\/a> in fayetteville, North Carolina<\/a> after visiting georgia at this afternoon, Vice President Harris<\/a> speaking detroit and flint, michigan, her campaign youre getting a boost from unexpectedly good Job Creation<\/a> numbers and a dip in the Unemployment Rate<\/a> over 250,000 jobs created last month. Unemployment fell in just a few weeks ago, the Federal Reserve<\/a> cut down interest rates, which is going to be great for a lot of folks over the last threeandahalf years, we brought manufacturing back to america we created 730,000 Manufacturing Jobs<\/a> and announced the opening of more than 20 new Auto Plants<\/a> in the united states and we did it by Investing In American Industry<\/a> and american workers the former President S<\/a> Georgia Visit Showcase<\/a> to reconciliation of sorts with the states republican governor. Also a briefing, a Hurricane Recovery<\/a> at what she repeated a false that he has been spreading lately about fema and Disaster Relief<\/a> money a lot of the money that was supposed to go to georgia and supposed to go to North Carolina<\/a> and all of the others is going and has gone already has been god for people that came into the country illegally and nobodys ever seen anything like that. Thats a shame. Well, it would be a shame perhaps if it were true, but it is not keeping them honest while fema does manage grants for shelters, housing, and helping migrants that money comes from a separate and unrelated account, which is a former president. He probably knows whether he does actually or not. He repeated the lie later today. This is maybe the worst Hurricane Weve<\/a> ever had and hes got no money. And we said what happened to them and they were given billions of this. He spent it on illegal migrants coming into the country so that was twice moments ago at his Town Hall<\/a>, he did it again theyre missing 1 Billion<\/a> that they gave to migrants coming into our country. So this is not the first lie hes told about the Relief Effort<\/a> here he is on monday suggesting falsely that president biden wasnt taking calls from Georgia Governor<\/a> Campus Suggestion<\/a> as youll see, is debunked or more accurately Pre Bonked<\/a> by kims own words just hours before the governors doing a very good job, hes having a hard time getting the president , on the phone, i guess not the federal government respond to the president just called me yesterday afternoon. I missed him and called him right back and he just said, hey, what do you need . And i told him, we we got what we need well work through the federal process. He offered that if theres another things that we need just to call them directly, which i appreciate that so georgia republican governor, telling the truth, it seems the parties later lying about it just hours later for political advantage and not for the first time to former Trump Administration<\/a> officials recently spoke to politicos environmental news unit, quoting from that story mark harvey, who was trumps senior director for Resilience Policy<\/a> on the national Security Council Staff<\/a> told Ini News<\/a> on wednesday that trump initially refused to approve Disaster Aid<\/a> for california after deadly wildfires in 2018 because of the states democratic leanings. But harvey said trump changed his mind after harvey pulled Voting Results<\/a> to show him that heavily damaged orange county, california had more trump supporters than the entire state of iowa. Olivia troye, a former Trump Home Glenn<\/a> security adviser, backs up. Mark Harveys Account<\/a> and they both told the publication they believe that their old boss is approaching Hurricane Helene<\/a> with a similar mindset. Even though hes not president now and therefore not making decisions about relief, Money And Disaster<\/a> declarations. These falsehoods still have impact in the wake of the storm thats already killed more than 200 people without regard the politics. Politics, and politically driven rumors and lies are now so common that fema is spending some of its finite resources and limited time. Maintaining a webpage. This one dedicated specifically to debunking lies, spread most notably by Donald Trump<\/a>, his Running Mate Jd<\/a> vance and their supporters again, these are lies damaging because it can hurt our Relief Effort<\/a>s. It also demoralizes National Guard<\/a> soldiers who are out here for days and days and people who are working in Emergency Management<\/a> who are working around the clock to help people. So thats North Carolina<\/a>s governor and he is a democrat. So some people automatically doubt him, doing the debunking. Republicans are as well. Heres North Thom<\/a> tillis no. Well, ill be silent. And any areas where we could do better . No. But right now, im out here to say that were doing a good job and those who may not be on the ground who are making those assessments ought to get on the ground so hes republican center recognizing what has always been with rare exceptions, the nonpartisan, nonpolitical reality about Disaster Relief<\/a>, namely that its a story of hardworking people of all stripes trying to do their best. Maybe imperfect, best under difficult conditions to help everyone they can this morning, glenn jacobs, the republican mayor of knox county, tennessee, posted on social media. Hes the retired wwe wrestler kane, by the way. The first part of his post and for people to quit spreading false rumors about fema. And it stayed counterpart confiscating supplies. The second part reads simply if everyone could maybe please put aside the hate for a Bit And Pitch<\/a> in to help that would be great. So a lot to talk about tonight. Former harris Communications Director<\/a> ashley etienne, also, journalist gretchen carlson, cofounder of the nonprofit lift our voices, and cnn senior political commentator, scott jennings. It is gretchen. I mean, its i guess not surprising. But again, in a storm like this with people who are dead, people still missing, people suffering, to have falsehoods put into the mix is just, its kind of icky. And i was about to say that his advisers had a great Day Today<\/a> because he actually was very reserved for trump, right . He didnt call Liz Cheney<\/a> stupid. He didnt call Kamala Harris<\/a> stupid. So he was on his best behavior. However, these lies i think are for one reason only, and that is he is currently women winning on the immigration front and they saw that when they made up the lies about what was going on in springfield with the haitian immigrants that that probably got the base all ginned up, right. And maybe his points even went up on the immigration front and that in my mind is why hes doing this at a Disaster Site<\/a> because he wants to blame it on sunday the thing that he thinks will get bigger turnout for him in the election. Actually, i mean, do you think trump would be bothering with these baseless claims if the storm didnt hit two key Swing States<\/a> what would Donald Trump<\/a> has a pension for is really exploiting peoples pains. Loss of lives, disasters like these for his own political purposes. I mean, you rattled off a couple of great examples. There are others where he denied democratic Governor Cooper<\/a> after a hurricane matthew, 99 of what the state needed because he was a democratic governor. You remember he mockingly, through Paper Towels<\/a> in puerto ricans. And so this is what he typically does. He shows up into places like this and exploit peoples pains. He did it after the Train Derailment<\/a> and in East Palestine<\/a> and thats really his thats his mo. So rather than doing whats in the interest of the american people, its always about scoring political points with Donald Trump<\/a> and thats really unfortunate. And im glad both democratic and republican governors are calling him out on it. Scott, i mean, is this appropriate for the former president to be doing . I mean, look, Donald Trump<\/a> didnt cause this hurricane a b, hes not the current President S<\/a> see. Joe biden was at the beach and Kamala Harris<\/a> was raising money with celebrities with this thing, hit. So i mean i think theres legitimate, but hes hes basically trolling the Disaster Relief<\/a> and recovery and hes not really like adding anything to it. Hes basically just making stuff up for political reasons. No well, i mean, he his campaign as far as i know, it start a gofundme to raise money for victims of it. Hes down there with brian Kemp Today<\/a> and he was praising brian kemps actions on the recovery. Enjoy Georgia And Kemp<\/a> thanked him for bringing. Right. But he lied about brian earlier guys want to call it, say that Donald Trump<\/a> is messing up the hurricane while we have a current administration bidenharris that are in office, you go ahead. I mean its Donald Trump<\/a>. He has things to say about the things that happened in this world. And its october of a president ial election. So i, you know, i dont know what you want. What do you want him to do . Not comment on it, but just not be sleazy. Is basically giving us a different argument actually, because its something different from saying that democrats or republicans would handle this different and the Relief Effort<\/a> i mean, have we ever had fema come out and have to say that the money is actually going to Hurricane Relief<\/a> and not to where Donald Trump<\/a> says its going and they had to do that today. And i think that that is the classic difference here between how democrats might handle this or how republicans might handle this. I mean, look, i would love to hear scott actually can i can i listen . There has been pointing out theres been plenty of Criticism And Reason<\/a> to criticize fema i mean, during Hurricane Katrina<\/a> in the wake of that, if fema came under a lot of a lot of criticism and for very understandable reason should criticize this thing. I just think you dont need to make up stuff to criticize. I mean, if you wanted to talk about some things that are factually correct and that would help the recovery ever get better. I think thats good scott. Yeah, i probably have a Jaundice View<\/a> of this anderson because because i, you know, i literally lived through Hurricane Katrina<\/a> in the bush white house. And as i know, you lived through it, anderson covering it and i dont i dont recall any restraint by democrats or the national media coming after George W Bush<\/a> and fema. And every other thing and was immediately politicized. And i mean, i well remember it, its seared into my brain. And so now all these people are out here saying, we cant politicize this. We cant criticize this. Nothing can be said about Biden And Harris<\/a> terror fame, or anything else. And i just think we have a republican were in the white house and the republican president were at the beach. And the Vice President<\/a> were raising money with celebrities. I guarantee you somebody would be mad about it gretchen i do want to play some more of what the from prison had to say about the response we are poisoning our country. Our country is being poisoned, country is being ruined just being ruined by these people and they took billions of dollars and used it for settlements of people that came in, many of which are criminals and the people in North Carolina<\/a> and South Carolina<\/a> and georgia and florida, virginia, tennessee theres no money for them and thats proven not to be true today. I mean, i guess that would be my question to scott jennings. Is were not talking about how different parties politicized different things. We all know that happens. The question is, why does trump have to talk about a false Lie Today<\/a> that this money is going to immigrants legal immigrants. Thats not happening. Ashley, i mean, the former President And Kemp<\/a> appeared together for the first time today since 2020 camp or rebuffed the foreign President S<\/a> request overturn the Election Results<\/a> you think the Harris Campaign<\/a> should be worried about a popular republican Governor Campaigning<\/a> with the foreign president , a Battleground State<\/a> its very concerning, but, the reality is this governors take, hes taking objection to Donald Trump<\/a> and how he you know, his antics his lies, his desk, and misinformation. I mean, you know that campaign has an opportunity to really continue to utilize kim to point out the fact that its not just democrats, its also these republicans that are, that have had enough with Donald Trump<\/a>. You know, i think you pointed it out accurately here. Its its not that people have any objections. Its not think he has any objection with how the current administrations handling the recovery, but its more about these lives, and east creating and its not just him, its his Vice President<\/a>. I mean, theyre just making up stuff and its not an i love scott to death, but like its no excuse to say that its october and this is what we should come to expect from not just Donald Trump<\/a>, but from any of our leaders. I mean, i dont want to know a liar, let alone let one run my nation my country. I mean, what are you to trust with Donald Trump<\/a>s . So i think the fact that the two of them are campaigning together allows the campaign, the Harris Campaign<\/a> has continued to point out the fact that there are republicans that still find Donald Trump<\/a> objectionable and really open up the Permission Structure<\/a> for more republicans to come in and support the ticket. 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Shes smart and shes got a big future and they call her the female Barak Obama<\/a>, the political connection between Vice President<\/a> Kamala Harris<\/a> and former president Barak Obama<\/a> goes back to Decades Aid<\/a> say obama recalls first Meeting Harris<\/a> in 2004 at a California Fundraiser<\/a> for his senate race. That meeting blossomed into now 20 Year Friendship<\/a> when obama first ran for president in 2008 harris was District Attorney<\/a> in San Francisco<\/a>. She took a political risk and endorsed him in the primary over hillary clinton. Obama won the Iowa Caucuses<\/a> and went on to become President Harris<\/a> had campaigned for him in iowa and later in california. Obama returned the favor in 2010 loaning his Star Power<\/a> to boost harris his campaign for Attorney General<\/a> of california deer, dear friend of mine. So i want everybody to do right by her harris won two years later in 2012, she found herself on stage at the democratic national convention, where obama gave her a coveted speaking role. President obama will fight for Working Families<\/a> he will fight to level the economic Playing Field<\/a> and fight to give every american the same fair shot. My family we had in 2013, an awkward moment during a closed door California Fundraiser<\/a> where obama described harris as quote, by far, the best looking Attorney General<\/a> sparking criticism. He called her to apologize for the distraction created by his comments and they are old friends and good friends. And i would note that he called her in those same comments, brilliant dedicated, and talk at the white house Correspondents Dinner<\/a> that year, obama poked fund at the issue i happen to mention that Kamala Harris<\/a> is the best looking Attorney General<\/a> in the country as you might imagine, i got trouble when i got back home who knew Eric Holder<\/a> was so sensitive as obama was wrapping up his second term another endorsement for harris, this time for us senate. As your senator, Donald Harris<\/a> would be fearless fighter for the people of california in 2019 when harris launched a bid for prep President Xi<\/a> met twice with obama aides say, and occasionally talked by phone. Obama counseled harris on her Message And Strategy<\/a> as he did the other democratic candidates when Joe Biden<\/a> selected harris as his Running Mate Obama<\/a> posted that hes known harris a long time and she is more than prepared for the job they followed up with this video tell me about jail and your relationship with dow and what do i need to know . Like whats the thing about the Ice Cream<\/a> . He loves his craig. Tell me about that Ice Scream<\/a> as big pasta with Red Sauce<\/a> he can keep, can go deep on that and this year when harris suddenly found herself at the top of the ticket, both the obamas endorsed her when you call to say michelle and i couldnt be prouder to endorse your to do everything we can to get you through this selection of get into the Oval Office<\/a> or my goodness michelle brock, this means so much to me. Randi kaye, cnn, palm beach county, florida its amazing cameras were there on to actually come back with ashley etienne, gretchen carlson, and joining us cnn senior Data Reporter Harry<\/a> enten. So what Voting Blocs<\/a> could form a prison, helpful. I also know start a ton of cameras in the room here to capture this moment yes. Look, i first off, lets talk about black voters, right . You go back to 2020 while Barak Obama<\/a> won been black voters by 90 points, youll look at Kamala Harris<\/a> has margin in the polls right now. What you see is, look, shes ahead, but that margin is significantly lower than that. Its 25 points lower than that, of course, black voters are so important in states like georgia, North Carolina<\/a>, michigan, of course, where the campaigns have been fighting ferocious they including today, what Kamala Harris<\/a> being up there, but its not just black voters, right . Lets talk about white working class voters. White voters without a college degree, who of course are so important in those great lake Battleground State<\/a>s where that make up the plurality of voters. Talking pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, what do we see . What we see is that although Barack Obama Isnt<\/a> that popular among White Voters<\/a> without college shes, he is significantly more. Yeah, significantly more popular than Kamala Harris<\/a>s. And of course key did very well in those great lake Battleground State<\/a>s back in 2012 and 2008. So i think that these are two groups that obama appeals among and hoping that perhaps he can bring a few of them along to the harris bandwagon. And thats really important because trump current we is doing 21 points better with Trade School<\/a> grads thing. Kamala harris is. So if obama can penetrate that group at all but i would also say that President Bomber<\/a> is an organizer, right . He knows how to get the Ground Game<\/a> going. And i think that that is especially important in these Swing States<\/a>. And i hope that he brings out Michelle Obama<\/a> because i actually think shes more of a secret weapon and he might be yes. Ashley, i want to play something or some of what Michelle Obama<\/a> said at the democratic convention . For years, Donald Trump<\/a> did everything in his power to try to make people fear us see his limited narrow view the world made him feel threatened by the existence of two hard work and highly educated, successful people who happen to be black, whos going to tell him that . Job hes currently seeking might just be one of those black job how you think, do you think the obamas really never gets old by the way, theyre saying, do you, do you think performed Prison Obama<\/a> . I mean, can really make inroads with some of those groups that harry was showing the polls. I mean, those numbers are for from what, ten more than ten years ago politics has changed a lot and a lot of people in those groups have gone to Donald Trump<\/a> to be essential. I mean, hes democratic royalty, both, both of them are there are top surrogates that we put on the trail quite a bit. I was meeting with the Harris Campaign<\/a> recently and theres two things i wanted to point out. One is where i think obama will be essential. One is this problem with black male voters are still seeing a motive, sort of a lack of enthusiasm around black male voters between the ages of 25 and 45. So for me, im going to be its gonna be curious to see how he tries to engage those voters beyond just doing the big rallies. Does he do podcasts that are specifically targeted to black men . And does he go in to barbershops like how does he try to galvanize that that particular group . And the second thing is they feel like theyve got to have Obama Level Turnout<\/a> to in order to win. I mean, thats just what harrys would have pointed out a little bit that shes lagging in the polls compared to him. Theyve got to exceed his turnout in order to offset potentially julie, what we might see with white women voters, where Donald Trump<\/a> is making some grounds with less, less than educated voters. So, yeah, i mean, hes, hes essential to her win, but theres also one other thing, anderson, ive noticed having done some campaigns after President Obama<\/a>, i used to work in the white house forum. So i think theyre exceptional, but after that is some of the Admiration And Love<\/a> that voters feel. Democratic. Voters feel for the obamas doesnt always transfer over two candidates. The candidates still has to do the work. So the onus is still on here is to go in and persuade these voters. One of the things that the foreign president has done well is trying to reach out to voters who are potential voters who dont, maybe dont normally come through kind of a Joe Rogan Style<\/a> Podcast Or Mma<\/a> fights, things like that. Vice President Harris<\/a>, we learned today, has apparently recorded an episode with the call her daddy podcast, which is hugely popular. Thats going to apparently they come out next week. Yeah, it looks she has been doing more unusual types of media. Theres obviously a strategy here. Instead of doing coming on this show, for example, right . I mean, shes doing things that are not necessarily what president ial candidates have done in the past, although should be on 60 minutes this weekend. I do think that that that is smart because shes reaching out to audiences that may not know her very well. I also think its smart because its a younger demographic. And right now, study has come out that only half of 18 yearolds who are eligible to vote have actually registered in Swing States<\/a>. So she needs to get to these younger voters and colored daddy harry, i saw its like the most popular running podcasts among women. Absolutely. Younger women look at the chasm, the Gender Gap Chasm<\/a> among younger men and younger women in those key Battleground State<\/a>s, look at that margin that harris has among young women, its 38 points among men voters. Its trump by ten and the bottom line is this harris is doing significantly well a month and younger women, that Gender Gap<\/a> is huge. Their podcasts, appearances like this can only help widen that and help wind hurt, advantage among younger women right . Everybody thanks so much. Appreciate it up next, Elon Musk<\/a> once said that Donald Trump<\/a> should hang up his Hat And Sail<\/a> into the sunset. Now, musk is trolling to the right and joining trump at a Rally Tomorrow<\/a> in pennsylvania, there was a turbulent relationship will take a look at that next or complete Remodel Revamp<\/a> is with you every step of the way. Is this going to be ready for the baby . From design and products to removal, an installation we handled the entire process to create a beautiful and functional bathroom whatever your life needs rayban with you every step of the way. Color, visit rebuffed. Com for your free and Home Design Consultation<\/a> rich as hell. Im the one that really needs the break, not the people that are already rich and have the money. The 1 dont serve anybody but themselves. So for them to get a Tax Break<\/a> . No, thats not cool. Kamala harris will make billionaires pay their fair share and shes Gonna Cut<\/a> taxes for working people like me. Im buddy and im not rich as hell, and im voting for kamalaharris. 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More now in the president ial race, the foreign President S<\/a> rally in butler, pennsylvania tomorrow, notable for two reasons, its obviously returned to the site of the first Assassination Attempt<\/a> against him back in july. And one of his major Super Pac<\/a> donors, Elon Musk<\/a>, will be there. Now, things have definitely changed from just over two years ago when trump called him a Bs Artist<\/a> or Rally And Musk<\/a> responded online saying in part i dont hate the man, but its time for trump to hang up his Hat And Sail<\/a> into the sunset. The next day, trump responded online as hes want to do criticizing, must quote, Electric Cars<\/a> that dont drive long enough, driverless cars that Crash Or Rocket<\/a> ships to nowhere. He also said that when musk visited him in the white house, quote, i could have said dropped to your knees and bag and he would have done it im joined now by the New York Times<\/a> is ryan mac, author of character limit, how Elon Musk<\/a> destroyed Twitter And Philip<\/a> bump national columnist for the washington post, philip what do you make of this alliance between Trump And Musk<\/a> . Yeah. I mean, its striking. I mean, i think its pretty obvious from trumps side if youd like trump, he likes you, right . Thats sort of always been the calculus for him, for Musk Side Id<\/a> musk obviously finds trumps authoritarian leanings appealing, right . He, hes certainly agrees with him on immigration. Hes taken to a very constantly. We just putting out fake information about immigration that comports with what Donald Trump<\/a> has been saying on the campaign trail. But ill also is obviously the case Elon Musk<\/a> responds to Donald Trump<\/a>s a strong man tendencies then in this Butler Site<\/a> thats quasi religious site for being the place that really made Donald Trump<\/a> the target that he always presented himself as. It makes perfect sense that was at that moment, musk signed on to Donald Trump<\/a>s campaign. Hes going to be there with him. And i think it reflects the importance of this site in the trump pathology. Ryan, youve written at length about the Trump Moscow<\/a> lions. I know you say Tomorrows Rally<\/a> is a full circle moment. What do you mean by that well, in the moments after the Assassination Attempt<\/a>, thats when Elon Musk<\/a>, who had been kind of already thinking about endorsing trump. Thats when he tweeted out. Im fully going a bit back. President trump in this election. This is the moment that im choosing. And he went full bore into it. He started tweeting photos, that iconic photo of President Trump<\/a> holding up his fist bloodied from the ear and he, he bought into those emotions. And so now hes going back to butler. Hes kinda closing that loop. He is he is going to lend us support. What do you think musk gets out of it theres Theres Plenty<\/a> and Theres Plenty<\/a> of potential conflicts of interests. Were talking about a guy who runs multiple companies that are under investigation by government regulators. I think of something like nhtsa, which is investigating tesla for its selfdriving or the faa, which has investigating spacex. And so you have a marriage or an alliance here that could end up being very beneficial to him when it comes to you know . Those investigations filled do, think its also i ideological yeah. I mean, its its hard to see that it wouldnt be i mean, musk is just so ferociously pro trump online, right . I mean, obviously he bought twitter, turned it into x and made it into this Echo Chamber<\/a> that now is extremely useful to the right broadly and trump specifically. But the fact that he just put out this propaganda on these false claims claims that aligned so completely with Donald Trump<\/a> and that he signs onto this picture of trump as this strong leader whos going to save america, which is exactly how trump likes to present himself. I think indicates that musk is bought into it and that brian, of course, is absolutely right, that theres benefits to musk from having done from President Ana<\/a> putting that trump has said hell give musk some job in the government or you know, as some, some advisory role. But be even beyond that, its clear that his politics, one, right . I mean, it seems like Elon Musk<\/a> for somebody who is running so many companies and i imagine under tremendous amounts of pressure, he seems to have a lot of time to just be putting the out false Information And Sort<\/a> of read Tweeting Stuff<\/a> or posting stuff thats just not true he does have a lot of time, you know, i was just on twitter on x. Looking ahead his feed and sometimes these tweeting more than 75 times a day. I know. I dont understand how you get any thank god. I mean, were were all journalists. We think we spent a lot of time on that platform. We have spent a lot of time in that platform. But to do that much on there and run to other companies or multiple their companies is a lie. And now were talking about him potentially joining the Trump Administration<\/a> is talked about this Government Efficiency Commission<\/a> where hes going to have oversight over spending and jobs. You i dont understand how he does it ryan mac, philip bump. Thank you so much. 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He also said that Israel Shouldnt Strike<\/a> irans Oil Fields<\/a> either in three days, israel in the world will mark one year since the October 7<\/a> terror attack. The same State Department<\/a> sources it is, quote, real really hard to tell if israel will use that day to retaliate for the Missile Attack<\/a> joined now by former Defense Secretary Mark<\/a> esper. Its great esper what form do you think Israels Retaliation<\/a> against iran will take . I mean, that is sort of symbolic strike the last time in april to respond to the iranian attack. Then what do you expect now know first of all, good evening, anderson. Look, itll be a significant strike and the first question will be is what do they want to achieve if they want to go graph to regime change. And i think theyll go after, theyll go into Tehran And Theyll<\/a> go after the ayatollah common. Theyll go after president pezeshkian, and theyll go after the irgc and then on top of that, theyd want to knock out all the Command And Control<\/a> communications that whatever survives that would be able to communicate with the rest of the regime if they want to go after military capabilities and you would look at strategic assets like the nuclear sites that are just south of of Tear Ron<\/a> in places like Fordow And Iraq<\/a> and stuff like that. But danger of course, is that is that you have to go deep into the territory and you may lose a pilot. Same thing as if you go up north to tehran the other challenge, by the way, with going after regime change, the downside is you risk civilian casualties in which you dont want to do is to have the iranian people rally around that regime, particularly since its so fragile right now, and they are really not happy with the iranian regime the other set of Military Targets<\/a> would be of course, ballistic Missile Production<\/a> sites, storage sites, drone production sites, things like that. I think they will take out Air Defense<\/a> regardless. Thatll be the way by which they theyre the path. But i think the other, the third big group of Targeting Anderson<\/a> or economic targets weve talked about the 12 to 14 facilities involved in Oil Refining<\/a> and manufacturing and distribution. And some are right there on the gulf coast. So those are easier targets if much less risky. Yeah. Im sorry. Those are easier to hit much easier with. Less risk to israeli pilots the idea of a, i mean just in terms of Israels Capability<\/a> is with the war in gaza the situation happening in lebanon, and iran, i mean, are they capable of maintaining a kinetic situation like that i suspect they are. And certainly with the united States Help<\/a> and because we would need to be there to support them in different ways. Of course the production of munitions and other means would be be critical. And in some, depending on the operation are some things they need our assistance on but i believe they will. I suppose theyve been preparing this for a long time and look, this is quite a change in the strategic situation. We havent seen this ever really. But the simple fact that hamas is now on its knees, its nearly decimated 20 to 24 battalions have been knocked down and most of its Leadership Hezbollah<\/a> is on the ropes with all of its leadership gone. And that was really always the counterpunch, the right hook that iran had its Back Pocket<\/a> in case is or ever attack iran. And now theyre gone. So what is iran have left to respond with . Israel hits back really hard . Another salvo of ballistic missiles as well. It really gone. I mean, obviously the you know, i know, i think that israel has said that theyve knocked out about half of the missile capabilities of hezbollah. Theyve obviously decapitate the leadership, but in terms of fighters on the ground in the south i mean, i went out in 2006 on an operation with the idf in Southern Lebanon<\/a> and it was really tough. I mean, once exchanging Rocket Fire<\/a> is one thing knocking rockets, but actually going on the ground in Southern Lebanon<\/a>, thats a really, thats a very, very difficult theater yeah. No, youre right. Anderson. I dont want to overstate it. I said theyre on the ropes at this point in time and we know that the Command And Control<\/a> has been decimated. The leadership has been knocked out. I mean, they still havent announced Hassan Nasrallah<\/a> as replacement, let alone buried him and so that said they still have 22, 50,000 fighters out there. They have if israels numbers are accurate, half of their Missile And Rocket<\/a> inventory left, which could numbers 70 or 80,000 if thats accurate. So that said, i dont think theyre going to theyre trying to do with hezbollah. What theyve done with hamas, my my sense is what they want to do is get rid of the infrastructure along the border thats the tunnels, the fighting positions from which theyre shooting directly. And israeli villages and communities. Then they also want to knock out as much of that Missile Capacity<\/a> as possible. Then third, they want to push them back to the Litani River<\/a> up to the north, 18 miles and get them in compliance with un resolution 171, which was passed in 2000 after the 2006 war, but was never followed through by hezbollah. And so i think if they can accomplish those three things, then i think thatll be successful for what them so thats my sense. How much do you think the political situation that netanyahu is in the legal political situation hes in his need to maintain this Coalition Shouldnt<\/a> that he has with farright elements in israel is driving the, i mean, the military situation we mustnt forget that there still hostages being held by hamas somewhere upwards of 90 or so living in, living in dead and theyre still out there and the families are still grieving for them and a majority however, a majority of israelis want those hostages back, but at the same time, well over a majority of israelis want to end hamas want to end hezbollah is very large numbers. I mean, as you know, 60 to 70,000 israelis are displaced from their homes in the north for nearly a year now, coming on monday. And so people want to see this problem go away and look as ive been saying since October 7<\/a>, last year at the end of the day, all roads lead back to iran we have to deal with iran. They have to deal with ron, which is why i think its going to be a very significant hit against iran, against the regime. Mark esper, i appreciate your time. Thank you very much. Thanks, anderson, live next, Microsoft Cofounder Bill<\/a> gates, on his latest project. And what he calls the most profound technology of his lifetime former First Lady<\/a> and the first second gentleman, kaitlan collins, takes a closer look at the potential for spouses americans have come to expect that the position is one that you could make a difference, that history and possible future of this iconic office, regardless of the politics, the image because of the two of them together, is something that will change the way americans think about how men support their wives. 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I need to learn more because i know he believes still believe that digital communication can be forced to bring us together to have read from the bait. But the thing about i make lots of money from vaccines. Its even hard for me to figure out where that comes from. Its not like a political organization, its just madness then who promotes that . I think its fear. I mean, during a pandemic, were all scared for our lives. No one really knows what to trust for what to believe. So thats what our society does i spoke with Bill Gates<\/a> earlier frightens you about it would excite to about it but smoke profound technology in my lifetime and thats saying something because you, the most profound technology pc, the internet, the magic of software so here we are creating another form of intelligence other, other than humans and theres two things unique about it theres No Limit<\/a> to how good it can get and its happening pretty quickly, right . Sam altman, a couple of days ago said in a few thousand days, didnt specify more than that. Its going to be smarter than any human on earth. Yeah. So youd get estimates from maybe two years to ten years so the fact that the outside view is half a lifetime, most profound things are generational electricity, even microcomputers, personal computers were like a 20 2030 year period. So the opportunities to do good with this stuff are well beyond what most people realize. But then the speed of change will be disconcerting. You addressed this is part of this netflix series, but i mean, what happens to society when the machines are smarter than anybody on earth and take care of a lot of basic things that we used to spend a lot of time doing. And do jobs better than we can do them. Like what happens to Human Ambition<\/a> and how passionate about what do people do well once you get to the extreme theres a deep philosophical question was that the most profound thing to have to work, make sandwiches, whatever. But filling in, weve organized Society Round<\/a> a shortage and a sense of purpose, unity, learn to be a doctor. Wow, thats very valuable. It was hard. We encourage people to do that. So the workweek will shrink and the idea of okay, what do you do with all that extra leisure time . But it is very hard to predict how technology ends up being used. You can go into the smartest people thinking its gonna be one way in this show, i learned that you didnt think of all if you put into personal computing and that it would be used in the way that a currently is generating Misinformation And Disinformation<\/a> and polarizing people in some ways like that, didnt, that was not on your radar for you thought it would be, correct me if im wrong people suddenly have access to the truth and the smarter and all the information in the world. And theyre going to become better educated because of it. And its going to be better. And that turned out to be naive. I was wrong about that. The idea that, you know, in the case of the pandemic, theyd look for misinformation about vaccines and that would sort of confirm their view. That maybe ai and fauci had some Malign Motivation<\/a> that i never would have expected. Does it mean because you talk to your doctor about this in the series and we played a clip of it in the intro to this. But which is, you know, she obviously is very far more aware, i think then you are of the misinformation out there about you. Does it . I mean, it doesnt seem to faze you, but i look, theres a lot of qanon people think im a Lizard Person<\/a> like Tom Hanks<\/a> or on the Jeffrey Epstein Airplane<\/a> or crazy conspiracy theories. None of which are true but but, but does it bother you . Does it concern you . Now, i get to do very exciting work. I get to work with very smart people. So even though this Misinformation Thing<\/a> is its sad that for example, some elderly people who should have had a covid vaccine, hence, you had hundreds of thousands depth. She shouldnt and i worry about my kids having to run into this overall my life is not one that i would say, hey, you feel sorry for me for any aspect its just another thing for me to deal with and hopefully take some of it in a humorous vein. So i mean, you do a lot of work in africa. It doesnt get much attention. So lets just give it some attention right here. What are you working on that you know, what have you what has worked and what are you working at . What needs more i mean, polio is virtually eliminated in the world, correct . Yeah, we still have we still have a little bit in africa, a little bit in pakistan, afghanistan, but with luck over next three or four years, well get that to zero in sheldon from Mortality Cut<\/a> in half but turned on the central because a lot of the work you have been doing, thats right. Our foundation and lots of the rich governments, including the u. S funded vaccines for all the worlds children and that was for diarrhea pneumonia. Now for hpv and you believe that that Infant Mortality Rate<\/a> around the world can actually even be reduced by another half exactly. So the the un in 2015 actually set that as a goal to do that by 2030, we are way off track because the progress of the first 15 years we hit the pandemic, these african countries are indebted. 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