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Voted for a democrat to topple trump casting my vote for vice president kamala harris republican liz cheney takes to the campaign trail to tell voters why kamala harris is the only choice in november plus what he said that dying and what they're getting no help from our federal government. He actually did donald trump's record of withholding help to disaster stricken communities desperate for it no reading between the lines. There is no room for compromise. Melania trump makes clear what does my body my choice really mean, what she believes about abortion is wildly different than her maga husband's party live at the table madison, jesse auto, van jones, ramesh ponnuru and now euro hop with 32 days to go? americans with different perspectives aren't talking to each other. But here they do in new york. Let's get right to what america is talking about. Maybe the strangest political pairing ever while tonight, liz cheney standing sidebyside with kamala harris in wisconsin, and officially endorsing harris for president. The republican encouraged republicans and independents to join her. And she listed many reasons since why she's voting against donald trump. But chief among them was the issue of the january 6 attack. And trump's refusal to do anything resembling taking responsibility for it democrat or republican or an independent that is depravity and we must never become numb to it any person any person who would do these things can never be trusted with power. Again as you can imagine, trump had a very strong reaction to the cheney harris event congress she was terrible. Liz cheney is a stupid warhawk. All she wants to do is shoot missiles at paypal. I really think it hurts. I think frankly kamala, i think they're hurt each other. I think there's so bad boss so here we are in the upside down world that was warhawk, that he's had not worked hagee even though you're radically, you could see donald trump saying either of those things but i mean, the change endorsement is sort of a shock to the political system, but will it matter is what i'm wondering. I have a hard time seeing how it changes any of these socalled undecided voters. But i also have a hard time saying that anybody doesn't already have an opinion about donald trump and kamala harris, that there are voters who are identifies unaffiliated people know the candidate, they know generally the issues what this does is potentially help with some of the enthusiasm folks who may have been more likely to stay home, who may consider and maybe some of those were white women who have voted for trump in high percentages and both elections. Maybe that's part of what this is, is that building that enthusiasm that, you know, either you stay home or maybe you're like, okay, i can turn out for this combination now. I want to play a little bit more of cheney because it's just, it's not just the antitrump part of it. She actually made an affirmative case for kamala harris. Listen that a president harris, that president harris will be able to unite this nation. I know that she will be a president who will defend the rule of law and i know that she will be a president who can inspire all of our children. And if i might say so, especially our little girls ever thought i would hear liz cheney say something like that even the idea of her giving voice to this aspiration, that of many americans to have a woman president just seems so foreign. But here we are i was reminded when she made that remark also, that pretty much with the exception of trump, most of the time, every president has said, i'm going to unite the country and none of them has succeeded in doing it. And i would be very, very skeptical that harris but getting back to this question of the political import, i think that harris actually me, that the cheney does represent a lot of voters. There were a lot of sort of incest rowley republican voters, people who voted republican in the past, but voted for clinton and voted for biden because, for various reasons they consider trump unacceptable. Cheney speech for those voters but i wonder if harris hasn't already maxed out with that kind of voter who was moved by the question of democracy and trump's threat to it. What do you think? i mean, i think that antitrump voters are already with cheney there already with kamala, are there certainly against trump? the people that were undecided, you have to give them something to jump about. I mean, you have to give them that excitement. You have to inspire them and i don't think anything about her speech necessarily did that. I think it's very difficult to see a world in which this really changes anything, especially when you look, i mean, on tuesday at the vice presidential debate over 43 million people watch this and that's unlikely to change things and the reality is obviously jd vance had a very good performance on tuesday. I think he impressed any people that weren't expecting for him to do as well as he did. And that's not likely to ship the needle. I don't think liz cheney speech today is going to really do much of anything. There are, there are some gettable voters, about almost 10% of the electorate in wisconsin. Some things matter for reasons that aren't directly tied to voter behavior. You know, we focus on that a lot because we're 30 days out from an election. But i think this matters from the point of view of history kamala harris is building a pro democracy coalition she's building a united front to stop authoritarianism. United states now, to me, i don't care if one more person boats for or against her based on the stand, what i'm proud of is that the antibodies seem to be kicking in that when you have the cheneys and when you have aoc and when you have taylor swift, when you have so much of american society coming together, saying, we literally brion nothing except that this person should not be the president united states, because we do not trust that this person will honor our constitution. I think that's significant. I don't know if the changes different from 2020 it does and how i mean, is it because it did feel it has felt in the past that a lot of people in culture and in sports and in politics have turned against trump, but that hasn't stopped trump from performing extremely well. Look, i don't know how this is going to work out. I mean, there's a clash that's coming and there are people who are on the trump side who see it very differently. But what i'm saying is this is a much broader coalition around common harris. It seems to me, again liz cheney was not standing next to kamala harris or joe biden or anybody of four years ago. And what it does bring back into the narrative is that reminder of what happened on january 6, right. Let's cheney was an adam kinzinger there. It was a bipartisan panel that went through and looked at everything and displayed that video and information for the american public. That that has been forgotten to some degree. So this represents this idea of what a quote unquote, old school by bipartisanship looks like. The idea of return to a set of democratic principles but it doesn't change the enthusiasm people who like trump have for trump if you look at polling and talk about what actually authoritarianism actions are, 40% of americans are perfectly fine with it. So this is why it's discussed as a battle for american democracy and pluralism because there is a very different worldview that trump presents about how america should operate it. And then decided voters. I mean, you continue to you see the polling, especially in these very important critical swing states, they continue to say the economy's their most important issue followed obviously very closely in many places by immigration. And that's not what was talked down today. Obviously, liz cheney and kamala harris have very different views on those issues. And so i think talking about policy, there wouldn't have made sense, but that's what i think could sway a lie though. One of the things, that keeps this going as a topic is that donald trump keeps denying said, yeah, that trump did not lose in 2020. So they want to simultaneously say, oh, you democrats are obsessed with 2020 and themselves remain obsessed with pretty, i mean, let me, let me just actually play what trump said today because this wasn't even a question to him. He just said coughed that up. We know last time, last election, we did great in 2016, a lot of people don't know we did much better in 2020 we won, we won we won is a rigged election it was a rigged election you have to tell kamala harris that's why i'm doing it again, if i thought i lost, i would be you know, where i'd be right down the beaches of montecarlo. Baby are some place? it's almost like he's trying to remind himself why he's dead. He's creating or, you know reinvigorating this narrative. And by the way a couple of weeks ago, he was saying he lost. So which one is i don't know, but i will say this jd vance just from a pure performance basis, did very well at the debate. He will live a whole time, but he did very well while he was lying. The problem is they lost the debate about the debate because at the very end jd vance falls down these, stairs and can't just say the obvious that donald trump lost. This continues to be the an albatross around the neck of this campaign. And for donalds i mean, it's one thing for donald trump to get up there on his little pogo stick and say this is nonsense. But jd vance literally flushed his hold debate performance down the toilet over the same as well and it's, it comes across to folks who are watching this as a complete denial of reality for the last four years i biden has been in the white house even president, right? we, we saw what happened on january 6 so the if you're want to say that the economy or immigration of the top issues for voters, but you're talking, you're denying this other basic reality. It is hard to have credibility and confidence in that ticket. You know, the other thing that's i think kind of interesting is that vietnam just try to sort of tap dance around this in the past. He said, oh, there are problems with the 2020 election. It was unfair for social media companies do this and that, that's not the same thing, of course, as saying that trump actually won the election. He sort of avoided going that far until really today because it's audience of one at the end of the day i'm happy. It is a litmus test in trump's circle that you must acknowledge his worked view of this, which is that he falsely claims that he won. I mean, jd vance knows that he knows that he would be thrown off the boat immediately if he were to even give a hint of acknowledging that everyone stick around for us coming up next donald trump, as former white house advisers, they are making a allegation that he wanted to refuse disaster relief money to blue states. A special guests is going to join us in our fifth seat on that plus melania trump is undercutting her own husband on two major campaign issues. Just one month before the election really mean? on television and off television. Now, when push for entire career here she could have lost everything owns coming out episode suddenly tends to the world. Hey, it's okay to be gay everyone was talking about it. It was national event. 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And they are getting no help from our federal government because they have no money, because their money has been spent on people that should not be in our country donald trump, there is wrong disaster relief money is separate from the money that goes to migrants needs. And both the white house and fema have now responded to that wildly spreading false claim. Now that aid is being provided to help victims of the hurricane and there's not being siphoned away from other purposes. But some of trump's own former white house aides are now saying that when he was in office, he initially refused to help blue states with disaster relief, joining us now in our fifth seat is cnn's chief climate correspondent, bill weir. Bill, first of all, let's start with the fact here that we are are talking about these incredibly destructive storms. And they are affecting large swaths of the country. Red states, blue states rather than talking about that, donald trump is trying to make this a political issue. But what is the reality for americans at this moment? well, this story is really interesting, is there's new information we had covered his ambivalence around hurricane maria is response in puerto rico, there were eight inspector general reports about that particular one. But this is a an official former official named mark harvey, who was in their resilience part of the national security council and had to literally, he says, show donald trump precinct by precinct vote tallies from orange county to prove there were more trump supporters. There than in iowa. He said that they deserved wildfire. Let me just read the quote. He said we went as far as far as looking at how many votes he got in those impacted areas to show him these are people who voted for you and then on the other side of that, ron desantis writes in his autobiography that after hurricane michael hit the panhandle, he said to donald trump, these are your people so instead of giving 75% federal coverage for the disaster, let's give them 100% and he did. And that was a difference of maybe 300 million depending on sort of favoritism, president has discretion on the percentage based on usually the size of the disaster in the end, donald trump did approve dozens of disasters in california more than any other state. But this shows his transactional impulse, right? every, every thing is is about how do i play this to my advantage and what it does is it trickles down this conspiracy to now you have the red cross and fema fighting these theories that you're only going to get $750 and the rest of the money went to ukraine. This is in the middle of a disaster. The disaster is happening right now now and people are trying to pick their lives. It just seems very cynical. And one thing that i think gives some credence is that he said in public back in april 2020, on twitter, he said, which is i guess what we hold it back. He said why should we give any covid relief money to blue states, right? he said he put that out there in a kind of just saying kind of way, but it's of a piece with the way he's approached all of public life and to your point earlier, it's not a discussion for donald trump about uniting america. It's consistently us versus them and his team. And then he will protect and take care of his people. And that's part of the promise as if you join his team, you will get taken care of. It's also a reminder of why this system of governance exists where there are civil servants who are nonpolitical, who literally look at how do you help people? how do you make sure that the money gets worse needed to go and that system needs to be maintained and protected i mean, madison, this is a bridge too far. I mean, it's trump just going he always goes a little, a little too far, but is this too far? i feel like disaster relief should never be political. I don't care whether it's a democrat or republican. We have to look at each individual situation and make sure that we provide the funds necessary to give the relief needed to these people. We see people stranded out there and we see people struggling. We see moms on facebook posting like, please help are running out of baby formula. My neighbor has no oxygen. I mean this is a true disaster and what's going on now, obviously, what goes on with the wildfires but to say that this is the only time ever in history that any politician, republican or democrat, has politicized something like this. Difference beings sometimes trump says things in front of everybody that other politicians do behind closed doors. And i think that's the frustration that so many people across the country have with government, with politicians, with congress. I mean in ohio for example, many people, not very far from where i'm from in east palestine, ohio, very, very frustrated that it took president biden over a year to calm and they begged him i do think that the difference here is that trump is just straight up lying. Well, there was like here's, here are the governor's. These are the governors of the affected states. Here's what they're saying. It's been superbly getting getting assistance and we're asking for everything would i'm incredibly appreciate it well, do rapid. Response, in the cooperation from the medical team eva response was quick from the federal government. We got what we need. He offered that if there's another things that we need just to call him directly these are republican governors who have every reason in the world to want calm harris to lose. They're not big, biden fans, and they are just telling the truth. There, just saying that america's government is responding to an american crisis. The way that it always have. But donald trump is lying and the problem with it is not just now but now it's terrible. People are suffering, made people more afraid than they need to be. They might be more confusing. They need to be. The problem is, this gets this poison, gets to the system. So now you are, you're creating, it's like termites in the foundation actually, when you consider there were 23 separate bi

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