Pete muntean at reagan israel airport. This is cnn gps, the global public square. Welcome to all of you in the United States and Around The World. Im Fareed Zakaria coming to you live from new York Today on the program, i bring you interviews with irans new president , Masoud Pezeshkian, and with the former british Prime MinisterTony Blair well skip the take this week. Theres simply too much breaking news. Well get straight to it. The crisis in the middle east, it is in uncharted territory. On Friday Israel killed a long hezbollah leader, Hassan Nasrallah in a massive strike in the southern suburbs of beirut the attack is part of a recent major escalation israeli airstrikes against the iranian Proxy Group in lebanon. More than 1,000 people have been killed since the uptick last week and hundreds of thousands of lebanese have been displaced the attack on nasrallah was a triumph for israeli intelligence but it also raises many questions. Joining me now from Tel Aviv as ronen bergman, Staff Writer for the New York times magazine ronen, welcome you are fantastic at reporting on these kinds of issues how did Israels Intelligence figure out where nasrallah was explained this operation because it seems like theyve been trying to do this for years how did them succeed were deterred from doing that . Because they were very much afraid of an allout war with hezbollah in where frayed of the gloomiest consequences as the war between the idf and his brother becky, 2006, but they were preparing for that moment. And this is a 50 years long operations to be deeply penetrating the Inner Circle of secrets, of hezbollah and just to give an example, on october 10, the idf brought a plan to kill nasrallah in a bunker in beiruts this was this was not executed because of american pressure and for Minister Netanyahu didnt want that but astronomer has been moved to a much secure bunker later that year and the israelis knew that he is there. That the whole ballroom was moved to that place. And knew when hes going to come when hes going to chair this meeting of the jihad council. Not just he was killed but many of his lieutenants and iranian generals were were killed as well. The israelis dropped 83 bonds some of them bunker busters in order to verify that everybody does feel to me like, you youre right that theyve had the capacity and capability. This is the Word Theyve been planning as opposed to the Gaza One that took them by surprise. And what the hezbollah seems to have miscalculated on. And i want to hear your thoughts on this is that israel was frustrated by this idea of having this low Grade War in the north, where it, where its people 60,000 israelis displaced, they couldnt get back they already have a low Grade War in gaza where they can you know, finding themselves mired. And so here what, what israel decided was, were going to do something very aggressive to break this dynamic and take advantage of all this intelligence we have does that is that a fundamental shift . Gifting is really thinking that they are willing now to take risks. They were knocked you still sometimes in history, things just happening by coincidence in that case the operation of Selling Hezbollah 45,000 Booby Trapped Pagers whos just about to be discovered exposed. Mic is better. Someone got suspicious and the chief of mossad came to prime Minister Netanyahu and said, if we do not pull the trigger and few days, this will be revealed. And probably because this is exposed they will look at anything they bought from our foreign companies, any communication, and they will expose the other operation the proceeded that one of the walkietalkie, and one thing led to another, but its also a Deep Miscalculation by secretary the late secretary general, Hassan Nasrallah, an amazingly, its the same miscalculation. He didnt 2006 in 2006 he continuously tried to kidnap israeli soldier. Soldiers to exchange them for hezbollah prisoners in israeli prisons and he didnt listen to any kind of warning that there will be Critical Mass after which israel will go to an allout war. This time for a year he launched an unprovoked war against israel on low intensity. He believed, and the radius believed that israel will be very hesitant and will never go to All Out War because the israelis are afraid of the toll. This will take or israeli cities and critical infrastructure. He was right for a year but at The End, he got it totally wrong. There was that Critical Mass after which israel just went into the offense and as you said for it the war that israel has been planning for 18 years, thats the word they wanted to find no hostages around and they were ready and the consequences that they were much more ready than hezbollah its fascinating what you say round about, about the happenstance of it because it does seem like the trigger was the fact that these these pages and Cell Phones were going to be discovered and then they decide whether were going to use these. It seems that they said we might as well go through with the plan we had, which was the, you know, because this was stage one and it kills all communications it allows for phase two, which is destroy the Weapons Caches and the minor commanders and then they went for phase three. But what is the next phase in your view . So israel has achieved this extraordinary success really decimated hezbollah now, what do they do to keep it decimate . You know, in other words, this has always been part of what deterred them. They dont want to go back into Southern Lebanon and occupied which they did for years and years and left after deep frustration. What is the thinking about what israels next step is . There is a debate one commander, the chief commander of the Northern Front of his lieutenants in favor of going only with ground maneuver, other officers are saying, look, we have been failing in doing that for twice in the past in at two and then in 2006, we should not go into this deathtrap we, israel they say, is able to take down his butler on its these just using Air Power and Special Operations the. Question, is, by the way, and i presented that question to many of the decision decisionmakers. Season make it. Leaders of the military, the intelligence, the political level the israel has promised just two weeks ago, just before all of this new wave of attacks, the changing of the focus to the Northern Front leaving behind the southern front. This, this ongoing gloomy, destructive war and the hostages that prime Minister Netanyahu has put on a very low priority, preferring the integrity of his, of his coalition now israel has put a very clear target on a new target on the goals of the war, which is to bring back the 100,000 refugees that left their homes in the villages and the cities and the kibbutzes in the north let them go back live there and live there safely and quietly for many, many years and im not sure that there is a clear line connecting these very successful Military Raids and sophisticated Special Operations. And the James Bond Fauda tehran Style Booby trapped pages, operation with how exactly israel is going to make sure that those 100,000, that suffered unbelievable misery during the last year will be able to continue the lives across the along the border between Israel And Lebanon and im not sure that israel has a strategy, has an exit strategy, how to translate those significant successes. As you said, theyve decimated hezbollah continue to do that in the next day, i assess an i think people all the time and they are trying to take down as much of the reserves of his boss started this war with 150,000 rockets and missiles. But between this and a political solution. There is still a very long road and israeli official saying, we need a mature, grownup basically, we need the u. S. Government, but the u. S. Government administration is now dealing mainly, they believe with the elections and so not necessarily an honest broker that would be investing all of its time and resources is to be found at least for now and very quickly. And finally, ronen, what, what is this mean for the next steps for Bibi Netanyahu . The feeling was that he was under pressure, he was under see, she had to try and there was concerns about him being held accountable for october 7, he has it his trials going on. Has hes as he once again found another life because his Approval Ratings are up. People support this mission, has bhbh out whether all his opponents, One More Time assessing the future but this week has been im sure that netanyahu concludes the last 11 days of attacking the north is good for his political career and its see any seems to be very much concerned with that future with this career, with the integrity of his coalition and im sure that the next polls of the israeli public will show a, an increase in the support of netanyahu and Likud Party that hes that hes leading, but at The End of the day there are serious challenges to israel to the israeli economy, to the israeli military that were not solved when they exploded those pages. There are 100 plus got to let you go youre on i got to let you go. We are going to come back to you for sure. In the coming weeks to help us understand all this. Thank you. Thank you. For what will iran do next . 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I wanted to hear what he told me about hezbollahs military capabilities heres what lacava tonight, an amateur his bola alone Cannot Stand against the country that is armed to the teeth with all the capacities. It has at its disposal. Know i atana, you wish to kish now if there is a need islamic countries must convene a meeting in order to formulate a reaction to what is occurring in the dust has what lies, but what can hezbollah do alone . You know, why he islamic and regional countries must first sit together. Thats fabulous at the Faa Vb of the Bandeau Vote and Gnabry Yardage and we must not allow israel to create another gaza in lebanon this will not come from hezbollahs hands alone hezbollah Cannot Stand alone against a country that is being backed by the United States and the europeans the government of israel would of course say that the reason they are retaliating against hezbollah as hezbollah has been raining rockets in northern israel has driven 16, 70,000 people out of their homes. These are men, women, and children. These are civilians and that is rarely response is a response to that. Those Hezbollah Rocket attacks show how Beauvoir Mcconney do you believe that as hominins in gaza, this same israel. How many people have they murdered . Theyve killed more than 41,000 people. What have they done to the israelis for them to deserve, to have their hospitals, their schools, men, women, children, old and young, bombarded. You know, how many israelis have even died that they are massacring this many people there my yard, im cautiously did the children killed people . Did the women murder people was already telling Terrorists Emojis of the greatest existing terrorist in the world is the country of israel is on you look at the figures on how many People Israel is terrorizing every day with missiles, drones and there are people in tell me how they are whether youd on it in iran itself. When i was being inaugurated as President Jadi on Leave Chavez from mud, they came