Tonight women, men, and the issues that could tilt the election, we should eliminate the filibuster for roe. Why com hello, harris and abortion rights are riling up. The electorate, same old, shame. Plus ballot busters. Conservatives accused maga of forfeiting election's over toxic candidates also, he famously described donald trump's first moment on the job. W bush says to me, pull that was some weird. But as november draws closer, silence from 43 should that change and a surreal new square for your 2024 bingo card by mark cuban says trump is more socialist than bernie sanders live at the table. Scott jennings, keith boykin, marc lotter, and karen finney. 41 days to go americans with different perspectives aren't talking to each other. But here they do i'm abby phillip in new york. Let's get right right to what america is talking about. Are republicans trying to lose the election? that is from nikki haley tonight as the gender gap between kamala harris and donald trump is widening exactly six weeks before election day one of haley's reasons for that comment is this from a republican senate candidate in ohio? it was released by his democratic opponent by the way, there's a lot of suburban women like abortion this country, remember i want, i will vote for anybody else okay. A little crazy by the way especially for women are like past 50 kamala harris is running aggressively on this issue of abortion, of course. And this morning, she reiterated that she supports eliminating the filibuster to resort, restore roe versus wade protections. But keep in mind her position on that is not new, but this is how senator joe manchin reacted to it. She knows shoulders, holy grail of democracy it's the only thing that keeps us talking and working together. And you get rid of that and this would be the house on steroids. You're not going to dorsal unknown. Your son i think that's basically something that could destroy our country and my country it's more important to me than anyone person or any one person's ideology and finally, donald trump himself who bragged about overturning roe, is making this declaration to america's women you will be protected and i will be your protector. Women healthy, confident, and free you will no longer be thinking about abortion there's absolutely no more subtlety left in politics, apparently. But let's start with joe manchin because he said never he will never endorse in this race. And this is the issue. It's one that dates back a couple of years for vice president harris. But is he right? to a degree that there are more downsides to upsides of eliminating the filibuster obviously, i disagree. I've been a longtime opponent of the filibuster. The filibuster is not in the constitution, does not required to have it in the united states senate. It started by accident, 1805. I tried our to fix it 1917 tried to fix it again to 1970s, they lower the threshold. It's not some part of the holy grail of the united states that he said a holy grail of democracy. And the irony of it is that the filibuster was used to thwart democracy. It was used to block the voting rights act in 1965. It was used to block the extension of the voting rights act and the 2000s. So the idea that joe manchin is saying, this is an essential, essential part of our democracy. It just seems preposterous. I'll take the other side of it. I surprised well, i wanted to let you finish your point. I think if i i think manchin is right. It does force both parties in the senate a closely divided senate. And what will continue to be a closely divided senate to talk and work together and define bipartisan common ground on big issues. You don't have this in the house. The party that's in the majority can usually work. Its will but in the senate, i think most americans would think it is a good thing. Now, harris has been on a journey in 2017 when trump was the president xi signed a letter saying she wanted to protect the filibuster, then she changed her position in 22. Now, she says she wants to change it for this one issue. I guess they could do that, but i would be surprised if a senate next year, which is highly likely to be controlled by republicans, would be interested in changing the filibuster just for abortion legislation to scott's point. Okay. Here's what kyrsten sinema, who obviously democrats are big fans of harris, but here's what she has to say to stay the extremely obvious, eliminating the filibuster to codify roe versus wade also enables a few sure. Congress to ban all abortion nationwide. What absolutely terrible shortsided idea. I mean, that's got to be a fear. So it's got to be a fair, but this actually goes back to 2022 after the 2020 election, we saw a rash of anti voting rights legislation being passed that the state level we we needed two votes to get the john lewis voting rights act passed and an update of just the voting rights act. And the filibuster stood in the way and joe manchin knows that out care how you feel about the filibuster. This is performative bowl from joe manchin, which he's very good at, by the way. It's a specialty of his. I've known him a long time because he knows. I mean, i can tell you that in focus groups with black voters, they won't. Charlemagne tha god, even in an interview with the new york times, talked about joe manchin blocking the voting rights act using the filibuster, the conversation at a time was, should we have a carveout? out for issues around constitutional rights? so is actually around voting rights and reproductive rights. One that was added to the conversation after dobbs was overturned. So he's he thinks so disingenuous. This is an excuse for him to say, i'm not going to vote for. But how many times do we have to go down this slippery slope? and for democrats to make the mistake that they later pay for. I mean, it was harry reid who eliminated the filibuster to pass barak obama's cabinet secretaries on a straightline party vote. And then flash forward 567 years later, neil gorsuch and the supreme court justices are done the exact same way back to the extent there you go. I've abortion here for a second because i think that's what under undergirds all of this. I mean you heard what trump said, you heard what harris said. You heard what bernie moreno said. His staff, i should say. They said it was a tongue in cheek joke however it's almost as if republicans are recognizing this is not a good issue for them and they're just like, well, we're never going to get those ladies. Well, it fell this to respond to i mean, i think i think a couple of things on the marino comment which we played played i always tell candidates don't be a comedian because you're not and don't be a pundit because you're not your candidate. And when you're talking about issues and you're talking about people, even people that may disagree with you on an issue, you have to do so with great care and an understanding their views and also understanding there may be other issues you can talk to them about they may not agree with you on this, but maybe they would agree with you on that. You can sort of forfeit that when he started to become flip and a pundit on your own, on your own thing. So my advice to moreno would be, look, maybe you've got some disagreements here but what should you be talking about? and this goes for trump to the economy cost of living, food prices, immigration, public safety now to figure out how to talk about abortion. I mean, this is one of the top issues for voter. I'm going to add one thing to say that i agree with scott jewels. My other rule to candidates is always, you're always on somebody has a phone. There recording you. So you're never having a private conversation, so shut up. Just don't do it, right? true but with regard to this i mean, this seeming attack and i will say as a single woman who does not have children, it is starting to feel like a bit of an attack we're being attacked because we're old an our wounds are drying up and we have to we should just be grandma there's or somebody else's kids or there's something wrong with us if we don't have children and, you know, and it's so out of touch with the reality that it's wife, 57% of ohioans voted to codify roe v v. Wade. That and it's about rights. It's about our fundamental freedom as a woman in her 50s and literally so you have a right taken away from me two years ago. That is how a lot of women feel, regardless of whether or not you are childbearing age. One thing i think i think we should also point out though, and i agree with you, scott have percent don't be upon it and don't be a comic. And i think he phrased it badly. What he was trying. I'm going to say what he was trying to say. I saw i want to go there i don't want to do that, but i didn't see i didn't think there was a kaiser family foundation poll earlier this year, this summer, actually well, about a month or so ago of women, abortion ranked tenth it was only 10% and then named it as the top issue for 2024. It was the economy, it was immigration, it was the things that we were talking about and so while 10%, they're probably already popped committed in terms of who they're going to support, whether they are prolife, are there proabortion. You know who you're supporting, but it's the other 90% you've misread got that it's ten from the list. I'm not sure what that list is on the list. Fifth and less doesn't mean they don't only 10% of the people of women and that brett other polls, including a cnn ssrs poll just this week it's number three in terms of the top issues. So it's after the economy, it's after protecting democracy and but it there's one up there as a support roe v. Wade, eight in ten americans support roe v wade you're 10% comes from, but it's jordan missions are not only struggling, but trump is just now saying, well i'll be your protector as if that addresses that issue. And here's really doesn't and he has no credibility on this issue. He was the one who appointed the three justices who overturned roe versus wade dobbs is because of donald trump. If it weren't for donald trump mean we still have the right to have control over their own bodies and his country. But in one out of three women in the country now live in states with a trump abortion ban and every state that has had this has a constitutional amendment is about measure six states have had in every state has approved allowing women the right to have control over their own bodies was for all your lives. And the fact that the republican party wants to go back. And now donald trump and j. D. Vance and others are realized they made a big, huge mistake and they're trying to figure out how did they dig out of it and they can't even come with a story of what his opinion is on the amendment in florida. Well, he's not voting for the amendment actually think he has a fairly moderate session on this topic on craig and i know and yeah, because it's been our party's position going back for a very long time, it is possible to be where most americans are some reasonable limits and people disagree, but it could be between 15 and 20 weeks. He believes in the three exceptions, rape, incest, and life of the mother, which has widespread support he believes an ivf technologies and heck, even wants to pay for some of it which even as a fiscal conservative concerns some republicans. But that's a pretty moderate defensible position that having been said, nothing is going to happen in washington because all the action is at the state's. And as you just pointed out, but the momentum is with the proabortion people in the states, right hello or dying. We want to go, but i'll let you know. Meanwhile, women are dying in the states are or some women are losing their ability to have children in the future, doctors are terrified, but also because scott have heard you make that argument before. It's not like he's saying women, you're safe because i promise i will codify roe v. Way. He's saying no, no, back to the state. So that's not the necessary that is not a moderate position in 2024 when eight in ten americans and then when i, and when we should just be clear, many states are actually passing a sixweek abortion bans, which are virtually complete abortion ban. So that is happening at the state level. Everyone stick around coming up next. We've got a special guest joining us in our fifth seat as new details emerge about the black nazi porn scandal involving a trumpbacked candidate plus it's george w bush morally wrong for staying on the sidelines and the election, we're going to debate it didn't ship back like and watch over them. Shot like that. This show was the highest rated oprah winfrey show of all time, all these years later, we're still talking about it opened really open the door for us to have discussions about way in a way that we had not before to added this confessional, intimate aspects, making television feel like a friend. Tv on the edge, moments that shaped our culture. 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He is of course, the republican gubernatorial candidate in north carolina, who is at the center of a black nazi porn scandal. Well, this comes as conservatives at the national review are slamming maga for choosing toxic and fringe candidates who are costing the party elections joining us in our fifth seat tonight is bishop william barber carolina native and a professor and director of the center for public theology and public policy at yale university reverend barber. Thank you for joining us. It's good to see you here in new york, you know, i wonder this race even though all this stuff has come out about mark robinson, it's virtually unchanged. Its a ten point spread, but that means about 35, 37% of north carolinians are totally fine with mark robinson being the governor of their state. Does that surprise you not really because he was already talked to before the latest things came came out. It's almost as though focusing as long as you don't do it on a nude porn site is ok. I mean, you think about this guy was saying that jesus was in endorser basically of his campaign that jesus was first tenant of diesel was freedom when the first tenant of jesus was law. And how you treat the poor and how you treat the least of these he used antiimmigrant d. This was pro am i gonna he claims to be a person of faith he talks about some people needing to be killed. If you go look at that tape is interesting. Before he even talk about some people need to be killed the pastor of that church said that biden was being led by the devil, and he agreed with it this was, this is before the point about being keah was just before the assassination attempt on president trump and he tried to say later that he wasn't talking about political violence. He was talking about on battlefield. But if you listen as i've done over and over to the whole thing, you can't disseminate that. So here we have this candidate and he's been attacking everybody. And now what it looks like, if he was attacking himself that's a strain. Psychological drama pastors, i don't beat up on people when they have a hard time. I don't rejoice into the downfall of people. I disagree with but it seems like he's attacking himself because he's been attacking gay people. He's been attacking there has been he's been attacking trans people. Now this report comes out and says he's on these new sites yeah. Yeah. On fire important these sites review's point, i mean, they're saying republican, the republican party, beginning with its voters needs to recognize a choosing candidates based on their offensiveness and fringy vibes is a formula for futility. Chalk up the north carolina governorship as another office lost for the gop by forfeit do you agree with them? oh, yeah. We've definitely had nominated some candidates that were a poor poorquality. Now, this cycle, i think if you look at it in total it's not been as bad. Robinson's obviously at the top of that list right now. But if you go back to the last cycle and the senate races, we left some well, that's some races on the table because of candidate quality. It's really a question of what do you believe the purpose of a political party is to win elections or to grind axes, or two, when cultural battles, i'm of the old school. I think there exists a win elections. You should nominate the people who can best win elections. There can i say? but abby, this is not new republican. Ronald reagan went to philadelphia mississippi when he opened his campaign, where he knew swapnil chain and gunman had died and talked about how he saw big black books ban the stakes in the line and use of welfare money. George bush, use willie horton, this business are positive polarization is a playbook straight out the southern strategy was built by kevin phillips, was built because when republicans decided what richard nixon, they didn't want to go with wireless, but they wanted to go with a candidate that could divide the country. They say, they'll worry of working was two positively and intentionally pit people against one another. This is an old playbook has been used a lastminute was like knock and what does it do? so when you do this, then guess what? you don't deal with the issues. The fact that they're 4 million poor, low wealth people in our class. We're not talking about, they're not talking about the over 1 million people who are still uninsured. We're not over 1 million people, 1. 8 million who make less than a living wage. And we haven't raised the minimum wage sense to you we're not talking about the 300,000 people that just lost their health care because we didn't carry over from the expansion during covid. So this is a design, play is a design play to put these issues out there, hope you can pull enough people against each other particularly in the south. And then win, but not having to deal with the real issue you're talking about north carolina planet as a battleground state because according to a lot of the recent polling it's within the margin of error, meeting harri