Straight to the source tonight, donald trump rallying this evening in pennsylvania, tearing into vice president harris, insisting it's too late for another debate on criticizing the early voting that his own party is pushing plus i have new reporting for you on mark robinson tonight. The embattled republican candidate for north carolina governor has just lost a big name supporter over disturbing comments that he wants made on a porn site we're seeing tonight for the first time, the chilling words of the suspect and that second assassination attempt of donald trump on the golf course i'm kaitlan collins, and this is the source donald trump is on the campaign trail and pennsylvania tonight delivering a mixed message about early voting to his supporters. Just six weeks out from election day from that stage tonight, the former president encouraged pennsylvanians to get out and vote early in one breath. Then pushed baseless conspiracies about doing so moments later early voting begins in pennsylvania over the next two weeks. And we need each and every one of you to go out. Just don't take anything for granted and we got to get out and vote. You can start right away. You know that right now, we have this stupid stuff where you can wrote 45 days early i wonder what the hell happens during that 45. Let's move the cheeley's votes. You've got about 1 million votes and then let's move them were fixing the air conditioner in the room, right? now it's terrible. But what happened the last time was disgraceful, including right here. But we're not going to let it happen again to, you know, too big to rig right talk about whiplash for those in the audience tonight. Trump went after the vice president on that campaign stage tonight for promises that she's made out on the trail and that comes as he has continued to resist for challenge to meet him on the debate stage for at least one more time before november 5. Harris has been arguing there's a lot more for those two to talk about after she formally accepted cnn's invite for a second showdown exactly one month from today on october 23, for now, trump says he won't meet her on the debate stage because you guessed it. Early voting the problem with another debate is that it's just too late voting has already started. I'd love to, in many ways, but it's too late now i should know. We did not hear trump make that argument about debates when early voting was underway during his first two presidential bids. The final debate in 2016 between trump and hillary clinton was held on october 19, the final one of 2020 between trump and president biden october 22, that was 12 days before that election. They'll trump's advisors are telling me that for now, it does not seem like he's going to change his mind on meeting harris on the debate stage again. Though they acknowledged based on comments like these, it's ultimately up to trump himself. I just don't know that we will think so because we've done two debates and because they were successful, there will be no third debate. I did great with the debates and i think they've answered everything but maybe if i got in the right road, i don't know my sources tonight are top political insiders, former harris communications director and jamal simmons, former trump white house communications director, alyssa farah griffin, and cnn's chief media analyst, brian stelter. Alyssa, i should note it was republicans in pennsylvania who pass these early voting laws paul's that trump is now complaining about what that looks like, but that's certainly not what we've been hearing from. His daughterinlaw, who is the rnc cochair, who was saying, yes, we do want people to early vote. This goes back. It's giving me 2020 whiplash when his campaign was wanting him to promote early voting mailin voting as well during the pandemic. And then he would cast out on it same thing. He's got something intellectually he cannot accept the fact that you can vote early. It can be safe, it can be tabulated. He just has this very arcane way of looking at it but there's also the secondary thing that comes with trump, which is he wants to preemptively cast doubt on the results in case he loses, he's incapable of losing and accepting that he lost so he's done that a number of ways, just as he did in 2020, we heard him blaming jewish leaders. He had a dig at catholics. He cast doubt on the system. So it's twofold. He genuinely does not in my understanding, trust early voting, but he also wants to have something to blame if he loses. A lot of other republicans have been critical of what he's, his mixed messages on that's because they want it to help them help them in a critical senate race that's happening in pennsylvania. And jamal, senator j. D vance is running mate, was also talking about early voting when he was on the stage in north carolina tonight, listen to what he had to say about this this country has gone from election day to election season, but it is what it is. And we got to play by the rules that are set so use early voting, used mailin voting, used voting on election day, whatever you can to get out there and make sure that if 100 people plan to vote for donald trump, 100 people actually get out there and do vote for donalds i mean, if you're a republican voter, it's not totally clear what they want you to do here. It's not except for the leader of the party is telling you that he doesn't particularly invest in this process. Right? here's his party is investing a lot of early voting absolutely. And remember we've all lived through this i mean, remember georgia, those georgia standard elections which probably got skunk too, because donald trump went down there and skunk them here's what's happening to me. He's not playing when the actual game. He's playing to get to over time, believing he can work the refs and then try to win it. There. So what's happening is this is all about just getting the vote close enough that when they get to the day after election day, all that legal process, the lawyers, they've got the 150yearsold lawyers are putting him 15 battleground states whose job it is. The challenge votes at the voting site to challenge votes in the electoral in the board election board process, and then collect evidence for lawsuits this is what this is all about. It's not actually about winning the game well, we know they challenged it last time. Obviously we saw all the lawsuits dozens of them that were thrown up by courts that's a great question that jamal poses there, which is, is this going to be are they going to be better challenging the election this time, if, if it's closed and if it does doesn't go the way they think they are much better prepared. Now, i've talked to democrats inside super pacs were preparing for this possibility, who are already in september preparing for november, assuming that this is going to happen right? they are also laying the groundwork. It may be a little bit of mutually assured destruction that both sides are planning for this. But, but i think you're right to call this out and we in the media yet need to point out that it's happening as it's happening, so that people are not surprised in november. So people are not caught off guard in some of the documents that we've seen from 2020 that only came out earlier this year and litigation in wisconsin, one of the trump allies described the strategy has been thusly to create a cloud of confusion. It wasn't about when you're losing was about creating so much confusion the no one would know what happened. Here. That's what's happening now, they could argue, well, we're litigating this in court, so i mean, this is what trump wanted. The doj to do. And bill barr to do in 2020, which was just to say that they were doing something. And then jeff clark wanted they were trying to get him to do this, to say there was something there so they could point to something. The lawmakers on capitol hill could have something to talk. So there's something there, even though it's not legitimate and that's why perhaps we've already seen some lawsuits filed ahead of time challenging certain early voting rules. This is also why donald trump, by the way, played heavily and secretary of state races and even in state house races which are president traditionally wouldn't really put his finger on. But those are avenues that he can challenge the election results. So he has he talked to the michigan representatives in 2020. He wants to have allies there so that he can try to challenge it if he were to lose will change the rules in as many places as possible like georgia change the rules so that they can make it as difficult as possible and as much of a mess as possible. So i an account of every vote and state that's all is going is not been is accurate when they initially do it, it may require another hand count because to take days, this is not something that happens immediately when you got millions of votes on the table. Yeah, it's a good point and this all comes is we're debating over debates and whether or not there is going to be another showdown. I want to get your take on why harris wants another debate so bad, but, but bryan on just trump himself i've talked to a bunch of his allies and advisers who say, right now, we're not doing any more debates. We're standing by what he said. No more debates do you think that trump though, can resist? 70 million viewers two weeks before the election. If it's as close as the numbers we're looking at today, show us know that's why this is a very live possibility. Cnn had been working behind the scenes for weeks, trying to get to the point where on saturday, kamala harris said yes. And challenge trump to say yes. And both campaigns received a letter a threepage letter, offering this debate you know, i noticed that trump said, yeah, it's too late, but he also said, i'd love to do it, but that was the more interesting part of his coat on saturday, i'd love to debate. It's just too late. Historically, it's not too late. The final debates in 2016 and 2020 were basically around the same time as cnn's offering october 23 this year. I think he will. I mean, there's a very real chance he will agree for two reasons. One the ratings, as you said, huge audience that he can reach a number two is he really going to let j. D. Vance have the last word? does he trust his running mate to have the last word? the debates, there's one more debate. October 1, the vp debate coming up next week. Right now, that's the only debate scheduled. I don't believe that donald trump, once j. D. Vance to have the last word on the debate stage? well, listen, i mean, you worked for trial what do you i am i'm incredibly bullish. There will be another presidential debate. I think he, if he sees any internal polling, is that even look tight? you cannot turn down the option to have 70 million eyeballs glued to you. And i will say he performed substantially better in the second 2020 debate than he did the first one. Some would argue he really helped blues in the standby stand back one, but he was more ready and i think listen, trump's not even as sharp as he was in 2020, there's a case that he could actually do better in the second, i want to go back to the scene of the crime cnn's offering this debate in atlanta, the same place where trump defeated biden. Yeah. So there's something about that. I think emotionally and he, you know, he regrets that because it pushed biden out of the race she was running against president biden jamal from the harris perspective, what does she get out a second debate because she had a strong performance. People weren't sure how she would do is there a risk and a reward factor here for her? yes, some people would argue, take the money and run right one last time. I take it, take those benefits to keep going. I think the campaign is showing up on first of all, a lot of confidence because they're going after donald trump on this very question and they're even taunting him a little bit. This is one of the reasons you'd get them to do it is because they're basically calling him a chicken. And i don't know donald trump's going to be able to withstand six weeks of being called the chicken. So many animal we've got sport to get animals were going to do the whole thing think that but i think what they're doing is something that's a lot of confidence they want to show that they believe this candidate can do wish needs to do in a debate. And it doesn't matter if as alyssa says, she's not wrong, simply the person who is the incumbent don't trump in this case is looking like the incumbent. That's better in the second debate than they do in the first debate so even the danger, the danger for the campaign is that of donald trump lances a good blow, if he just said one good thing, they hope he can go out and talk about who tried to turn that into a moment. But the bigger danger is that donald trump can't do it and that she looks even stronger as voters are looking to get one more touching feel of her. They want to see her one more time, a little scratch and sniff, make sure that she's actually the person that they want and they can vote for her on election day, 8% of voters want to know more about, or that's a prime opportunity to do it. Right? well, but trump would also we'll have that moment because those those people who are not early voting, who are tuning in, or the people who have not yet cast their ballots potentially and want to see what trump has to say. And of course, it was his campaign manager who was walking around business cards. It said anywhere anytime anyplace about about debates. But also i want to ask you because we hear a lot from trump and he was criticizing heard tonight for reversing her her policy on fracking. We hear from trump on his economic policy. He's been talking about tariffs that he wants to impose if he went to a second election and he's been saying he doesn't feel like he needs to go to congress today. He was sitting in front of two john deere tractors when he said this about the company moving some of its manufacturing to mexico i just notice behind me john deere tractors, i know a lot about john deere. I love the company, but as you know, they've announced a few days ago that they're going to move a lot of their manufacturing business to mexico. I'm just notifying john deere right now if you do that, we're putting a 200% tariff on everything that you want to sell into the united states i mean, somewhere paul ryan is rolling over. I mean, he's not he's still with us, but it's there's nothing about that. That's conservative economically. It's also just terrible policy to threaten a beloved company with a strong brand name. And a huge population of workers in the country that you're going to penalize them if they loot, i leave the country. Of course, a better response would be we're going to make the conditions better here that you're not going to want to leave his message in 2016 and to some degree, 2020 was onshoring american jobs, rebuilding manufacturing investing in the american worker. Now it's something very different. Its retaliatory, it's about sticking and yet to china but not thinking about the cost that fall to consumers. He's not running as a republican. I cannot point this out enough as the owner of a john deere tractor in my barn that sounds like a strong man. That sounds like a strong man, n