Georgia. Even as election officials argue, it could be illegal, donald trump's allies pushed it through. Plus, we'll go inside trump world on the drama in north carolina. The republican trump endorsed for governor, refusing to drop out in the wake of cnn's explosive exclusive report, revealing that he called himself a black nazi on a porn forum plus a fed up florida sheriff now publicly identifying kids arrested for threatening violence, calling on parents to do their jobs, saying that if they won't he will tonight, he's my source. I'm boris sanchez, and this is the source thanks for joining us. Some boris sanchez in for kaitlan collins a battleground state election board just made a move that could upend the entire election if that rule change stance, we're talking about georgia, where vice president kamala harris stump today. We're donald trump narrowly lost in 2020 and then demanded that election officials find him votes ultimately leading him to a criminal charges. Now for years later, new concerns are emerging after the pro majority on georgia's election board voted today to force counties to hand count all ballots on election day, despite objections from the republican secretary of state and republican attorney general, warning that might be illegal. The three republicans on the panel got a very public shout out from trump himself last month we have to make sure that we stopped them from cheating because they cheat like heard, but the georgia state election board is in a very positive way. This is a very positive thing. They're on fire that doing a great job, three members three people are all pit bulls fighting for honesty, transparency, and victory there, fighting now those three socalled pit bulls, according to trump, made a move that some are warning could disrupt or delay the whole certification process. The vote was 32 and one of those two who voted against the change joins us. Now, let's go straight to the source with the only democrat on the georgia state election board, sara tindall, ghazal sara, thank you so much for sharing your evening with us. Do remember it took about a week in 2020 for that henry count of every presidential ballot in georgia. From a practical standpoint, what is this going to mean in terms of figuring out who wins? well, first it's a little bit different from that. The audit what what the rule that we pass tonight requires is that the actual ballot papers are counted. They're not doing a hand tabulations, so it shouldn't take days but it certainly will take hours and in the aftermath of 2020, our legislature set incredibly tight deadlines for recording the actual tabulation. So if if counties haven't uploaded their vote totals by midnight, there out of compliance, they have violated state statute. And this rule is going and to make it incredibly difficult for counties to do that. So we're really setting them up for failure. Do you anticipate this is going to wind up in court and do you think it could be adjudicated before election day? i would not be at all surprised if it winds up in court. I certainly hope it would be adjudicated. Courts need to be expediting all electionrelated cases right now and it's certainly made clear to us and this is something i argued initially because as the only attorney on the board i understand the scope of our authority and this goes way beyond it so i expect it will be will be sued over it which is what our terror had warned everyone, but i am hopeful that the courts will see, see fit be done with it quickly. Sure. You sort of alluded to this a moment ago, but i was hoping you might expand on the new rule. Was proposed by someone known for peddling conspiracy theories about election workers. Do you think the election denialism from 2020 and trump's lies about it ultimately influence this board literally every single a petition that we have heard and we have passed has been brought to the board by somebody who denies the 2020 election results. That is the only thing motivating these rules. This is not the standard rulemaking process that should be deliberative, that should involve will the election administrators themselves. It should involve our attorneys that's not how any of this happened sara tindall, ghazal, we have to leave the conversation there. Appreciate your time. My pleasure my political sources tonight, a senior advisor on hillary clinton's 2016 campaign, karen finney, and former senior adviser to mitch mcconnell, scott jennings. A pleasure to share this evening with both of you. Turn it how big a concern is this for the state of georgia, one that democrats clearly think they can win? yeah, it's a bit big concern in georgia, but you have to take to vantage points on this, having done elections in georgia, this is a strategy designed to sow chaos that we will have lawsuits. There will be a lot of backandforth and the coming weeks, we have 46 days to the election ballots have already been printed. All of that, one of the concerns is you can even train ballot workers in time on how to do this. And there's lots of concerns about what's the chain of custody of the paper ballots. There's lots of issues here so that's a separate issue. The larger issue as again, sowing chaos because if you part of what they were doing was giving themselves the authority to delay certifying the election. And what that means that throws not just georgia into chaos but the whole election into chaos. It also provides a rash so now potentially for donald trump's something i think we all believe he will do anyway, to claim that there was a problem with the election. I mean, on the debate stage, you said our elections are a disaster, right? so it's a way to create, if people are seeing stories that there was some problem in georgia, it's a way to throw the whole thing into chaos. Like he tried to do in 2020. And just basically slow down the system and by himself time as he tries to fight it out again. So it's yes, there's a georgia specific problem, but it also creates potentially a national problem. Scott we know someone that doesn't like it when these vote tallies take too long. Let's watch terrible thing. Went ballots could be collected after an election, and i don't think it's fair that we have to wait a long period of time after the election. I think it's terrible when we can't know the results of an election the night of the election in a modern day age of computer it seems like four years ago, trump didn't like this idea. What do you say to karen who argues that republicans are opening up an opportunity to sow chaos oh, i think handcounting fiveandahalf million ballots would take a very long time and i mean, i'm only moderately good at math fiveandahalf million pieces of papers, like a lot to me and so i understand i understand the concerns about the logistics of it and how long it would take and what that could do so i suspect that's why when this gets sued and it goes to court, a judge is there's probably a strong possibility going to say, look, we're too close to the election and tried to implement something like this. On the other hand, i will just say i do think there are republicans in georgia who do want more certainty in the outcome of the ballot counting and they just, they want to feel like there are many eyes on it as possible to give them the people of georgia the most confidence they can have that everything was counted properly and so on and so forth. Don't want to cast any aspersions on the motives here. But it does strike me that the logistics of this would make it difficult. They did some other things too increase confidence in the election, which are probably fine, but counting fiveandahalf million ballots it's hard by hand and then machines, you know, they're pretty good yeah. I was just going to say actually this week i had a briefing on georgia and was able to look at some internal data that showed, interestingly enough, moderate voters, liberal voters in georgia, even some moderate republicans in focus groups said, oh yeah, they're trying to steal the election. We know what they're up to, so what's interesting is the, what this could also have an impact of having people surge to the polls to say they're trying to take it away from us. Oh hell, no, we're going to vote in bigger numbers to make sure that they can take it away from us. So it's interesting. Look, i'm just telling you think there are people who are, who were actively planning not to vote, if not, but for this arcane man, no, i'm saying that there are people who are more motivated to vote, particularly black voters for whom voting in georgia is really hard. Sometimes in all debts, not been there. Is a long people have, we have stories of people having to go on for hours all over the place ever been easier to vote in america and in georgia than it is, right well, i'll tell you, i hope they don't get 30, so they don't have to have somebody bring them water but we're going to play this game again, something else i wanted to see about specifically in nebraska, because that rational district that won electoral vote proved pivotal in this election, trump was on a call this week trying to sway republicans there to change the rules. Shouldn't you just go there and campaign and win it outright instead of trying to change the rules. Well, i don't know. I mean, it is unusual to do something like this. Of course it was unusual for democrats to throw biden out at the lastminute two, so i guess we're having a summer and fall of unusual activities. It strikes me what i've heard is that it's not likely to happen. I guess they're trying and look, i think both campaigns are scraping and clawing for every advantage you're right, it is pivotal. I still think you. Know if you look at harris and she were win the blue wall but lose his sunbelt. She needs that. They can get into to 70 so it is a vital matter for her to be able to compete in that one congressional district. They do do it differently there than most other states. So if they changed, it would bring them in line with most states. But it's. Still seems like it's uphill to change it at this point, but we'll see they would wind up sending a tide electoral college to the house and widely expected to potentially win there. I want to pivot. You mentioned the sunbelt to vice president kamala harris in georgia today, obviously underscoring the importance of the peach state. I want to share with you some of what she had to say think about that and these hypocrites want to start talking about this isn't the best interest of women and children who have been care of the women and children of america draw attention there to the deaths of two women that a propublica report linked to the state's abortion restrictions what do you make of her trying to put a human face on this issue? it seems like it could be fraud, potentially well, look, i don't know if we had the opportunity to see or hear from the mother of one of the women who spoke last night at the event with oprah. And i mean, she said, i'm just a broken person from what happened to their daughter, they recently only recently learned that their daughter was left to suffer for 20 hours because the doctors weren't is, you know, is there life in danger? can we do something? can we not do something? and that's not the only story i think what is important, this is exactly what we warned about when roe v. Wade was overturned turn and it went back to the states that the states were going to pass draconian laws that were endangering women's lives. We also heard last night from beautiful hadley, who was featured actually in an adding kentucky who at 12yearsold, had to have an abortion after seven years of being one raped by her father. So these are real stories. These are real women. This is really happening in this country and i think they're it doesn't just happen to the woman who happens to the men who love them. It happens to families, and it doesn't need to and the thing that this mother said last night, that was just broke your heart? she said it was preventable it was just so preventable. So that's part of what the vice president is talking about and talking about the need to this is our freedom for many women. We don't for us, this is our ability to make decisions about our body is a fundamental issue. It is an economic issue, it is a personal issue as a healthcare issue so i think it's important that she continues on to talk about that. Scott last word to you, your thoughts on this approach? well, i think for harris it's obviously the issues she cares about the most as part of their core strategy to try to when the election and all these swing states and i would expect this to be part of their campaign moving forward, the question is, is it going to be more important than the economy immigration, crime, and other things? and that's what's what the next 40 something days is about. Scott jennings, karen finney. Appreciate you staying up late with us tonight. Names much new tonight. A fundraiser for the republican nominee for governor in north carolina was just canceled. More fallout for mark robinson in the wake of cnn's report that he called himself a black nazi on a foreign web site and a sheriff says he's been pushed to the limit, fed up with kids, making fake threats to schools. 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