Tonight, a major presidential endorsement that both candidates have been angling to lock down for weeks now. And it turns neither one of them is getting it. An election that is marked by an allout fight for blue collar voters. The teamsters silence brings louder than really any endorsement could tonight. The leadership declaring that they're not backing vice president harris or former president donald trump. So the republican nominee tonight tried to claim otherwise earlier today, i was honored to receive the endorsement of the rank rankandfile membership of the teamsters. I loved that tapes of course, the endorsement comes from the leadership of the teamsters, but we'll talk more about that in a moment. But just to give you a sense of how much trump was trying to woo the teamsters president sean o'brien, he gave him a prime time speaking slot at the republican national convention. Any reaction to teamsters decision not to endorse know they i particularly to honor their not going to endorse the democrats. That's a big thing and this is the first time that i guess 50, 60 years, and that's happened, democrats automatically have the teamsters they took a vote and i guess i was at 60% or more and that's a great honor i should note, that's not exactly right. That democrats automatically get the vote teamsters did endorse both reagan and george hw bush but the importance of the teamsters decision is evident and just help badly both sides wanted it remember, vice president harris just met with a union's leadership on monday, but she walked away with that endorsement, still dangling in the air and the team teamster stand out. I should note from what so far has been a clean sweep of major labor endorsements for the harriswalz false ticket. But they're focus may be more on what's happening inside the nearly 95,000 rank and file teamsters who were in the state of pennsylvania. The problem for the democratic ticket, the teamsters own fingers according to them showed that a majority of their members prefer trump my lead source tonight is the head of an influential labor group, one that has endorsed the harriswalz ticket. I should note united auto workers president shawn fain, and it's great to have you here, shan, because when you look at this this is the first time the teamsters have not endorsed a presidential candidate since 1996 do you see this as a blow to vice president harris not really. Look, it's not a trump endorsement and you know, look, we've done polling in working class people union or not, and especially in our union and i know the other unions mirror the same numbers going back to 2008 and forward. I mean, it's literally been an average of 65% vote, democrat, 32, 32%, but republic, and that's pretty consistent all across the board. And even though i'm not going to get into their leadership and their decision making, but it was pretty apparent today when the michigan teamsters joint counsel, 43, 200 45,000 retired an active members endorsed kamala harris, the joint council, 42 that includes nevada 300,000 members endorsed kamala harris and walz and local to 37 in new york, which is their biggest local, also endorsed harriswalz teams. So i don't read into that too much. I mean, i believe their union just like arguing and most other units i know of in this country are going to vote heavily for kamala harris and tim walz. Yeah, we've heard from the pennsylvania faction of it, although and of course, overall, if you're sitting at home wondering about this, teamsters, they got that 1. 3 million members. A lot of the more in michigan, wisconsin, and pennsylvania, and they do a lot my credibility with truck drivers, freight haulers. So those rail workers, i mean, you know that better than anyone. So you're right that it's not an endorsement of donald trump, but without the mount, they're knocking on doors that kind of muscle power that they have. Do you think it could hurt her race? i don't think so because i mean, i believe locals that have endorsed him are going to be they're going to do the work they're going to be boots on the ground and that's where that's that's that's that's the eye toward the troops are you know, i look at the same with us like we had a weekend of action last weekend all over the country in uaw locals and our regions. So we plan on doing that throughout the entire every weekend and throughout the weeks, you know, throughout this entire election process. So i believe the boots will be on the ground regardless because it's a clearcut choice. So who stands with working class people and who doesn't i mean, donald trump wants to fire striking workers and kamala harris stands, stands out there with striking workers on a picket line. It's it's a really clear choice who's with us and who's against us. Well, it's interesting to hear you say that because sean o'brien, who's the head of the teamsters, remember after trump was kinda of laughing and it's seeming to agree with elon musk talking about firing striking workers, shadow brian called it economic terrorism from the trump campaign. He was defending his decision that his leadership team made today. Listen to what he had to say about this call have always taken for granted that they're going to get our vote no matter what. And the republicans of fancy themselves as the working parties. Working people's party. I think right now, both sides have to take a step back and really reevaluate what their commitment is to working people. And that's what we did in this problem. Process what do you say to that, that idea that democrats are taking laborers vote for granted? well, i mean, as i said, when i took over as president, that our endorsements are going to be earned, are not going to be freely given. I don't disagree with that. I do believe you know, after after eight years of reagan and four years of bush won, i believe that the democrat party slid toward the middle and not on that. All of them, but some and the trade deals and after past democrat, you know, some democrats supported all republicans did and it left working class people scratch and our heads, who's got our back and i think it's important that we make him earn our endorsements. But you know, you look at donald trump, we have a track record with him when he was president, he left workers behind. He didn't do a damn thing when plants he he claims that he cares about auto workers and it's insulting but that man showed up in flint, michigan of all places yesterday a city has been devastated by the corporate class taking those jobs out, driving a race to the bottom over the decades, they have and wwe sickening is the fact that the republican party in michigan poison the people to the citizens of flint so that's a party that left working class people behind long ago. And the one thing about the harriswalz team harris and biden team after they swift it, sorted out the pandemic they went to work with the american rescue plan. They saved pensions they went to work with the ira to create the chips act, over 30 factories or i've been built are planned to be built in, are being built in the united states right now. That's an investment in industry. Donald trump didn't bring a damn thing here when he was president. He had the chance. He didn't produce. Can i ask you what you make of him saying just before we came on the air tonight that he got the doris meant of the rank and file of the teamsters what should look that way when all those joint councils, i just repeated in michigan and nevada, and new york all endorsed kamala harris and tim walz. So that's over half million members right there. So i i'd say he's a little off on his assessment, but but like everything he says, he's a little bit off so shawn fain, thank you for your time tonight hey, thank you. Great to be here. Great to have you. And i want to talk about the political impact of all of this. So we have to political sources here on set with us the democratic strategist, i usha mills and the republican strategy strategist, shermichael singleton i mean, what a both you think of what this means because it is well beyond what he said about trump there, shawn fain, obviously not the donald trump's biggest fan, i think to put it generously. But, but what impact does this have for democrats? well, i just want to reiterate what was just said because while the national may not have endorsed at the end of the day teamsters 245,000 of them in michigan as well? hello, as in wisconsin, as well as in parts of pennsylvania and philadelphia also in western pennsylvania and representing northern west virginia. All of those teamsters have come out and support of kamala harris. So when you think about the fact that these battleground states really matter and all politics is local and it's about organizing boots on the ground to get at the word out, to get people to vote those critical states that we're talking about, the teamsters are going for kamala harris. I think that this conversation about the national narrative is absolutely true. In fact, that the nationals decided to sit this one out, but where she actually needs the people who are going door to door and getting their members out in those crowds. Critical battleground states kamala harris has what and you can't look at that without looking at the numbers that we're also seeing today about those those three states, the quinnipiac poll that came out today, harris is up in pennsylvania, 51 to 45, michigan, 50%. Donald trump has 45%. Wisconsin, no clear leader there. I mean, you are just seeing so much of this within the margin of error. You see it there. 3. 3 points when you're looking at these numbers and assessing how they get those three important states. I mean, look, it's within the margin of error. I'm not surprised at the races. A lot tighter and closer than it is because of the enthusiasm for the vice president. I get it but you also have to factor in when doing the math that donald trump is typically underestimated in his overall performance. And that's also with considering the threepoint to 3. 3 typical margin of error. So if i'm looking at a state like pennsylvania, where i think our recent cnn poll a week ago suggested 16% of the voters. There are still undecided. I'm trying to figure out where are they? are there in bucks? are there any eerie lizard and other parts of the state? and what is necessary for the former president to penetrate those 60% of those voters who are on the fence, who are not yet behind vice president, i think there's still an opportunity to do that. And on top of all of this, trump is here in new york today, and he was asked earlier when he was at this bar talking about crypto, about what the fed did today, making that huge rate cut a more aggressive than some experts, even expected. He did not seem exactly thrilled about it. This is what he had to say economy to kind of buy that much assuming they're not just playing politics the economy would be very bad for their place one of the other, but there is a big guy make of that? i mean, look, the fed said that we have not necessarily defeated inflation yet. He also mentioned housing costs is still a persistent issue in this country. I don't necessarily think the foreign president phrase it properly, but this is clearly still a real issue for a whole host of americans. And i think it's still the reason why, though the vice president has improved her margins on this issue compared to president biden he is still leading on it. He needs to talk more about it and explain to the american people again, going back to that 16% of pennsylvania, what he's going to do if given another four years. And one of his advisers clearly wanted it to be maybe a 25% cut. Now at 25 points in after the election, that was steve moore who said that to a reporter. I mean, this is good news for people who are trying to buy a home or refinance or credit card debt. But it also does collide with the politics of the moment, right? and let's take the politics out of it for a moment. I want to quote you guys a couple of things. They're a pretty much all economists agree that donald trump would be horrible for the economy. And that literally if he were to win again within months of him taking office, we would see inflation go up so according to a moody study, trump, he would cause a recession by mid2025 goldman you're, looking at jpmorgan asset management. They're saying at this tariff plan that he talks about that kamala harris is essentially calling a tax on the american people. That's actually going to lead to more inflation. If you look at goldman sachs group economists, there are gaming this out and they're saying, well, the u. S. Gdp faces a hit in the case of a win for donald trump. Every trusted economist is saying that this guy is bad for the economy. Mean i think one of the senior is x, that is goldman sachs actually pushed back a little bit on that. I watched an interview a week ago on cnbc pertaining to that, he said this isn't exactly from us. These are some guys working with an outside group and this is their analysis with that said, the biden administration. The biden administration? she's the biden ministration did keep in place some of trump's tariffs. Now, do i necessarily agree with the approach of the former president as it pertains to china unnecessarily. And i do think he should probably rework this a bit more. And i think some republicans would probably agree with that in terms of having a fair balance in terms of trade overall. But i'm not convinced necessarily that the three that you mentioned have given the former president and opportunity to really elucidate, i suppose what his exact plans would be because he's going to get in because he only has calmed. Concepts. Whether it doesn't have any plans, he has concepts of a plan book deals, take on something that's happening while both of these candidates are ferociously out on all of these states that we're talking about. Trump was during the town hall with governor sarah huckabee sanders last night of arkansas, where she talked about how her kids humble her all the time every day and she said she made this dig. If vice president harris saying that she she doesn't have anyone to humble her was the quote, doug emhoff, the second gentlemen is responding to that tonight. I just want everyone to listen to what he had to say about it my kids keep me humble unfortunately, kamala harris doesn't have anything keeping her humble they said that somehow because colon aloe aren't commas quote, unquote, biological children that she doesn't have anything in her life to keep her humble as if keeping women humble, whether you have children or not, is something we should strive for all right, so i don't understand the table. I don't understand the strategy behind this. Republicans having a very real issue with a women. This is certainly not going to help i'm a conservative. We've always talked about the importance of family, right? and we understand that there are some women who have issues bearing children ivf other issues i would support that right. Because you don't want to i was going to get to that next maybe some women just decide they want focus on careers or other things, but they do become step moms sometimes they'll step moms become the second mom, or they become the mom for whatever family issues are going on. And conservatives traditionally have said, we believe in the importance of a family unit, the traditional family unit, how ever you decide that unit should look like we believe in it. So this as a strategy to me that only he is awful because it turns off women, but i don't think it's in sync. What contextual conservatism, at least as what we would have argued 2030, 40 years ago. It just doesn't make sense. Kaitlan. I think what doesn't make sense is the fact that republicans constantly think that it is their job of responsibility opportunity to have any opinion about anyone's relationships? as someone who was on the frontlines of the lgbtq movement for over a decade. Though, the conservatives have literally been in my bedroom most of my life, the idea that their hands are in my womb. The idea that their narrative and conversations about what my family formation should look like. If i should have a husband or a wife or have children pets, i should have or denigrating me if i do only have pets right there's such a personality politics gone awry on the right that i don't understand why they don't just speak to the issues that fundamentally work to conservatism that a lot of people still believe in good thing. I also think any step parent would say hey, your stepchildren, do humble you believe i have three as someone with a stepfather, i will tell you if you're it takes a lot for step parent to like, when you over. And i give a lot of kudos to him for all intents and purposes, it appears that device president's stepchildren lover their door again, i think conservatives should it'd be about families exwife endorsed her, which i think a lot of people also say, that's how he tougher than the teamsters. Great to have you both here, ayesha mills for shermichael singleton. Thank you for that. We do have more big news ahead the following the latest on what's happening with diddy and his trial. He was just denied bail. Again, he is spending tonight in federal custody let's talk to our sources on what that looks like for him. Plus tonight forbes is ligand looking into how trump became the first american ever to create billions his polics, we're following the money tonight that took culture over the edge. People who are watching and then our world change he had, an explosive reverberation tv on the edge premieres sunday at nine on cnn this hour night. 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This election, stay with cnn with more reporters on the ground. And the best political team in the business, follow the candidates, follow the voters, foll or call 187, 7866 at 5:55 i'm alayna treene traveling with the trump campaign. And this is cnn the music mogul, sean diddy combs is staying in federal custody ahead of his trial after a judge denied what was offered a $50 million bail package after he was arrested and pleaded not guilty for racketeering and sex trafficking king combs's wearing the same clothes that he had on yesterday when he showed up in that courtroom in downtown new york today, a contentious backandforth happened between prosecutors and combs defense team playing out inside that courtroom as the judge ultimately ruled that there were no conditions that reduced his risk of witness tampering or obstruction and ultimately the denied him bail. I legal sources on this tonight or former federal prosecutor, elie honig and cnn's chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst, john miller, elie. They were basically and by they i mean, the defense team offering anything, they could to keep him out of jail. They were saying no women will be at the home. He won't be able to be on the it turned when he's at home. The judge still said, i'm not i'm not going with that. This is something you see quite often when you're defendant has endless resources, they propose what prosecutors derisively called private prisons. And we prosecutors will stand up and go, judge, not any defendant can post $50 million and as an armed guard, to make sure but he doesn't go anywhere and judges used to actually grant that years ago, but they've really soured on it and the most telling thing for me in trying to guess what would happen today is if you look at this case and you pull out the name sean combs and you just make it your average defendant charged with rico conspiracy with firearms, drugs, guns found in the house, extortion, assault plus forcible sex trafficking. That person is getting detained in the southern district of new york and 99 times out of 100. Well, and they seemed to be arguing today. He won't obstruct this investigation. They're concerned the prosecutors are arguing let's tampering with witnesses, and at one point, the prosecutor is saying that a witness who got a subpoena back in june last year are in june, that he contacted her in june and july, despite not having spoken with her several years. I mean, there seemed to be some viable reason for concern. Would you say? it's on two levels. One, there's the p diddy level, which is there is allegedly a person out there who since he came to new york. So kaitlan, this would be within the last seven or eight days. He allegedly called 40 times trying to contact this potential witness in the case so the question is, can he help himself as a matter of impulse control? but the larger question is it's a rico case which is there's a combs enterprise involve private security people, friends, chiefs of staff, other employees. In other words, there's a network that if he had unfettered access to other people could reach out through others. So judge carter, who is a very respected judge in the southern district, a person of color, a person whose legal career was fronted by years as a public defender would have probably been the most reasonable judge you could get to make these arguments that i'm innocent until proven guilty. It needs to assist in the preparation of a. I. Defense and he went with the magistrate's findings, which is just too much possibility for this to go sideways and marc agnifilo agnifilo diddy's attorney said last night he thought they had a pretty good chance, but he did not seem totally, totally sure that this was going to happen. A key part of this is that video elizabeth wagmeister broke the video a few months ago here on cnn. It shows diddy beating up cassie and his then girlfriend in a hotel hallway and we talked to mark about that last night. He said the video was bad, but he also said this about it this was just a matter of personal embarrassment because he and the person in the video, we're in the midst of a ten year relationship that was difficult at times, that was toxic at times, but it was mutually so now he's a defense attorney. He's got to defend his client, but the judge seemed even skeptical of that today saying, you know, diddy was a middle aged in his 40s, man when this happened? yeah. And mark told us that i thought was really interesting. He does expect that video to come in to evidence at the trial. The reason it was influential today is a it's a very powerful piece of evidence it's one of the things the judge has to consider is what's the strength of the evidence here? how likely is it that this got this guy is going to get convicted and be what better way to demonstrate how dangerous the person is, then to show a video of him beating somebody up. Can we talk about the mdc, the metropolitan detention center? this is where diddy is right now. That's where he's spending the night he's wearing the same clothes today in court. What is it like inside there? it's in brooklyn. Who spent more time there, do you and me? probably. Okay. Just to be clear as a prosecutor, and you as reporter yes. It's a troubled institution. It's a giant warehouse that was converted into a jail it's it's on the brooklyn waterfront among other warehouses but it has had fires. It has had electrical problems, it has had it has been without heat in the winter and without air conditioning in the summer. Its suffered through covid defense lawyers and judges have agreed that it is not an ideal place for a defendant pretrial to be able to help their lawyers prepare a case and i know you visited defendants there as well. All prisons are hellscape, but this one may be the worst one i've been to. I've been to i don't know. 101215 federal. You've ever been to the worst i've been to in the following respect. It is a decrepit facility. It is overcrowded. There's i don't know what moisture dripping down the walls. The first time i ever went, there's funny. You mentioned it's interesting. You mentioned was a summertime and i'm a little bit claustrophobic and it was in a small room meeting with a witness was in there for maybe three hours. It was incredibly hot and i still remember 20 years ago or so when i stepped outside taking a breath of fresh air like because it is tough to be in there even for an afternoon and look, the reality is, chunk holmes is going to be in there. It's going to be a year, give or take, maybe a little more until his trial. That's where he's going to live. And there's just no getting around. That was three hours. He's been there for 48 hours and that's a long way from the park hyatt where he had the sprawling suite where hsi agents arrested him the night before last yeah, it is remarkable to see the idea that he got the key to new york city. I think a year ago though some wasn't that long ago. Yeah. You went to him by eric adams. Let's just say and to see that, obviously innocent until up until proven guilty. But that trajectory is something we've seen. New york titans felt before. But also, let's remember bill cosby. He's out because prosecutors messed up. Harvey weinstein had one of his convictions thrown out because prosecutors messed up, so all eyes on the sdny here. Yeah. It's a great point. John miller, elie honig, great to have both of you up next we're going to speak to the woman from this powerful new ad. She's here to tell her story i was 12 when he impregnated me. I didn't know what it meant to be pregnant at all hadley duvall is not only voting for kamala harris, she is cacampaigning for her with abby phillip tonight at ten eastern on cnn you can feel like a spectator in your own life with chronic migraine 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more. Botox prevents headaches and adults with chronic migraine before they start and treatment is four times a year in a survey, 91% of users, which they'd started sooner. 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But i had options because donald trump overturned roe v wade, girl i was in women all over the country have lost the right to incest donald trump did this he took away our freedom and hadley has been out on the road with the harris campaign's reproductive rights bus tour this week and she is my source tonight and hadley, it's so great to have you have you back on the show because we spoke after you were featured your story in an ad for kentucky governor andy beshear when he was up for reelection. Jen rare thing for a dam in a republican, deepred state like your home state. What impact do you want this ad featuring your story to have? you, know i want people to know that. No matter what state you live in we are all at risk of a total abortion ban. If we don't elect kamala harris into office, and that's the reality and it's scary because we did elect a democratic governor in kentucky and they still wouldn't have exceptions for rape and incest at the very least and they won't hear us at the state level. They won't they make their own decisions, but us girls, we don't get to decide what state were violated in. Women now get to decide what state they're pregnancy goes south in. And that's just the big mess. Is it's not humane to have these laws and these limitations on women and for that message that you want to get out there, obviously they're reaching out to battleground states channels like bravo the season premiere of survivor, or the wnba playoffs. That's when people are going to be able to see your ad. And many of them may not be familiar with your story. But, but for people who are watching you know, do you want this to reach just women? do you want men to be listening to your message? what are you hoping for here? absolutely. This is everybody's problem. This is not just about women this happens to me because i'm a father figure. Let me down and i didn't get there on my own. And it is just so important for men to be able to stand up for women, like people like governor beshear, governor shapiro, and to stand up and say women deserve these options. If we don't have men saying that we deserve these options, if we don't have men fighting for our rights what do we have at the end of your ad? as people just heard you say, donald trump, did this. What are your biggest concerns if he's reelected? and i wonder, when you watched the debate like we saw last week and trump doesn't say whether or not he'd veto a national abortion ban if it came to him his desk, how you heard something like that it's it's very obvious that he wouldn't say he would veto a national ban in that right there. Put us at risk that right there told me that the only person that can say give us from a national abortion ban is kamala harris she looked right at donald trump and she said, women did not want this. She was not afraid to stand up loud and proud for women and girls in that situation. In tell america exactly what she would be fighting for it and exactly what she would do for women donald trump on the other hand, couldn't even look up and he changed the subject. He couldn't even tell us that he would protect us because we know that he won't hadley i just when i first heard your story, i was i think like most people deeply shaken and affected by it and i just wonder what it's like for you personally to have used such a terrible and horrible thing that you went through first in the way you used it with governor beshear's effort and his election, but also to have it featured in a moment like this one in a presidential campaign it really makes little me feels so scene and heard. But you know, to know that i survived and i went through the trauma. I went through. I got through the story and you know, maybe i got through that. So i'm able to fight for the voiceless now and i just take that with so much gratitude that there are women and girls out there who trust me with their stories and who trust me with their deepest, darkest secrets. And kamala harris is leading this fight for us and its honestly an honor to be able to help show the world exactly who she is because kamala harris is one of the most genuine people and we need a president like her hadley duvall. You were very strong young woman. Thank you for joining us tonight thank you meanwhile, speaking of the campaign trail tonight, look at what's happening from the campaign trail to capitol hill. Trump is pressuring republicans they are to shut down the government if they don't get a piece he's of legislation on that spending bill that he wants. Tonight, we are seeing the division on full display. Once again, is republicans defeated? their own plan to keep the government open. We're going to speak with a republican lawmaker after this tv on the edge premieres sunday at nine on cnn when it comes to amgen, life changing medical breakthroughs, every second counts. 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And what he is insisting is that the house only pass a spending plan that speaker johnson wants to pass if it includes a requirement to prove that u. S prove u. S. Citizen citizenship before you can register to vote in a federal election, despite the fact that i should note it's already illegal for noncitizens to vote in federal elections. That effort tonight by speaker johnson failed and our congressional source that we find on capitol hill is new york republican mike lawler congressman. You voted for this, but it obviously did not happen. What is speaker johnson's plan b? do you know what it is why they obviously ultimately it's going to be a clean cr i mean, the reality is we're not shutting down the government with 48 days to go before an election this election is going to be decided by the voters based on the issues that are impacting them from the affordability crisis to the crisis at our southern border lost your audio there for a second. We're going to see if we can get it back. Of course, as we're looking at this tonight, clean cr he means that shortterm funding bill just for a few months to keep the government funded through december without what donald trump is asking for to be attached. And congressman lawler, just to let you continue that train of thought since you froze a little bit there with you with your connection you were saying, obviously this is going to be a clean cr that's what's going to pass. But why not just put that on the floor if that's ultimately what you are going to have happen here. Well, i think obviously the speaker supports a cr that also included to say that i'm a proud cosponsor of the say that i think very clearly we should reaffirm the point that noncitizens should not be voting in elections you've had washington, dc, and new york city both trying to allow non citizens to vote in local elections which is wrong, especially when you have foreign diplomats living in those cities. But ultimately at the end of the day democrats have refused in senate to move that legislation. We passed that legislation months ago. They have thus far refused without passing it through the house here, we're going to have to pass a clean cr because as i was saying, we're not shutting the government down with 48 days to go before an election. A government shutdown really does not do much of anything. It doesn't save money. It actually costs us money. And really, when we're dealing with the crises facing the american people, the last thing we need as a governor stepped down well, i wouldn't get hurt vulnerable republicans like yourself, if the government shuts down before the election look at the. End of the the issues facing the american people are the affordability crisis under kamala harris and joe biden, gasoline prices, grocery prices, energy prices housing costs have gone up astronomically. The average mortgage costs in my district is up $1,000 a month. That's over 12,000 dollars a year under joe biden and kamala harris, the crisis at our southern border where over 10 million migrants have come into the country. Most of them illegally, 90% being released under catch and release. It has created a catastrophe so much so that mayor adams of the city of new york saying it's destroying the city then of course, the international crises that we're dealing with, those are the issues before the american people. And obviously the government shut shutdown will only distract from that and certainly won't serve any real purpose. Yeah, it's just remarkable to see. I mean, you say you favor the save act and that you are a cosponsor, but it's already illegal to vote in federal elections if you are not a citizen. And by doing so, they basically be creating a record of their crime and also just never happens. But i want to ask you about something else on capitol hill, congressman, does you are hateland respectfully, you can dismiss it. But the city of new york actually tried to pass legislation to allow noncitizens to vote. And we sued in new york. And one, because it is unconstitutional as wrong. So i say simply illegal in federal elections is the point congressman but it's reaffirming. And frankly, i don't know why any democrat would be opposed to it. It's reaffirming a simple truth that you have to be a citizen to vote in our elections. And yet in washington dc and new york city democrats have tried to pass laws to allow noncitizens to vote. So don't dismiss it out of hand when you actually have democrats actively trying to allow noncitizens, including foreign diplomats in our it's wrong. I'm not dismissing, i'm just saying it's already illegal and it already it doesn't happen. It's very rare. And you said they tried but they didn't succeed. But i do want to ask you, congressman. Because donald trump tonight is holding and it's very rare, congressman, if it doesn't happen, then obviously that it wouldn't be rare. So the bottom line is, it shouldn't happen, period. And yet you have democrats in new york city and washington dc trying to allow it to happen. Okay. And given how migrants have crossed into this country since joe biden, kamala harris took office reaffirming that it should not happen. I do think is a common sense measure that most americans support yeah, just saying it's already illegal. Congressman mike lawler. Thank you for your time tonight. Thank you a provocative new pieces out tonight and forms looking at how donald trump has made billions off of politics. Estimating he is worth $4. 3 billion. Today, we're going to take a deeper look inside of that number right after a break have i. Got news for you? it's coming to cnn this fall, pros and cons lists, pro hosted by roy wood jr. Row with amber ruffin with michaelian black. Oh, okay. What are the cons we could run out the news by then? could that really happen it does. 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You just slip in in there on its like they have an invisible builtin shoe your foot slides into place, hands sketch your slippers just hours from now, donald trump can cash in on 1. 8 billion. That's because tomorrow he can start selling off his shares of trump media, which is the company that's behind truth social this is all the more remarkable given trump has invested next to nothing in this venture. It, it's nearly doubled his net worth in just a few years how this happened, all of it is the focus of the new forbes cover story that's out today. It reports on trump's quote, fouryear transformation, which made him the first american ever to create billions from his politics my source tonight is the former senior editor, dan alexander, who wrote that cover story. And dan, it's great to have you back because you kind of described this catch 22 that trump is in where selling off 60% of the social media company all or at once, or even in decent sized chunks could crater the share price and leave him with, with less money. Ultimately i mean, how does he navigate this it's so tricky, you know, and it's especially tricky with this company. It's always a bad look when somebody who owns a company as big shareholder is the ceo sells a bunch of shares. But this company is trump. There's no underlying financial performance that can justify the valuation of the company right now all the investors are going on is the hope and dream that donald trump will somehow spin this thing into a multibilliondollar company if trump's starts selling then that rationale starts fall apart but if there's one person who could pull off this hi wire act. It would be donald trump, who might be the greatest salesman in american history, particularly at selling things that don't have much intrinsic value well, and that's why i think people are always kind of shocked by what the prices are here of what the numbers look like, because you talk about how the story lays out trump left office in 2021. He was in a bad place financially, but in the years since then, his net worth has gone from 2. 4 billion. And i say bad place for him, not for a regular person watching to buttout to now, two to 4. 3 billion because of this company that you say is barely even then functioning that's right. I mean, the trump media and technology group, which is the parent company of truth social. This social media app. In the last 12 months have generated about $3. 4 million of revenue and it lost on a net basis, $380 million. I mean, those are just atrocious financials. But what you've seen in the last four years is a transformation that has two parts to it. One is sort of the creation of the maga empire in which truth social falls the other is the transformation of trump's previous real estate business. He now has much less value locked in, say, new york city real estate or hotels, which had been the real core of his fortune for his entire life. And now much more value trapped and golf courses and maralago, these are private clubs where people can pay enormous amounts of money to be right in the trump orbit, in the maralago case at his home. And so profits of that business have surged as the new york and hotel apart has fallen off, those two dynamics happening simultaneously has allowed donald trump to become billion it's $1 richer. And this year put himself back on the forbes 400. Well, it's also just the properties, but you talk about how there's this random assortment of internet fueled hucksterism encompassing coffee table books, nfts bibles even pieces of the suit that he wore when he debated joe biden i'm in june. I mean, it's it's like everything that you could pot by even if you don't, that's really know that you want it social, the intrinsic value of these things is next to nothing what's the value of some tornup suit? well, without politics, without donald trump zero. What's the value of nft that's just a digital image of its 70 somethingyearold guy flexing and sort of cartoonish. Nothing unless its donald trump. And then people are willing to pay collectively millions of dollars for his coffee table books are sourced from photos in the public domain. These are not you know, presidential memoirs that have big revelations about his time in the presidency. The intrinsic value of these things, just as the shares is almost zero. And yet put trump's name on it and suddenly he is spun all this up and billions of dollars. Yeah. Sounds like a familiar story. Dan alexander, thank you. Thank you. Great reporting there. Makes sure to read that forbes cover story out today. 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