reached a ceiling. so i enrolled in um, gc i would not be the person we are now fewer than seven hours away from cnn's presidential debate world headquarters in atlanta. and very soon president biden is expected to arrive here in atlanta for this highly anticipated face off with former president trump now, this is video of the presidential debate stage. and you saw cnn teams. they're putting the finishing touches. now, this is video of president biden getting off of marine one at joint base andrews and route to georgia, trump is expected to arrive here at the debate side a few hours later, but before the action kicks off tonight, both campaigns have been churning out attack ads potentially previewing the line of attacks that we may see after both candidates take the stage. let's bring in cnn's mj lee live from when the cnn debate site. all right. mj, the supreme court just issued this ruling on emergency abortions in idaho. we did get a glimpse yesterday it is now officially out today. this can have a huge impact on the 2024 race and maybe on this debate house, the biden team responding yeah, briana, there's no question that reproductive rights was always going to be a top issue for president biden heading into tonight, it is in fact, one of the top top-three domestic issues of the campaign has made clear is really a top priority for them where they think there is political saliency, where they think they can really draw a sharp contrast between the president and the former president in a qian to issues related to the economy and democracy and just to give you a sense of how much the biden team is really leaning into this issue. >> this new campaign ad that they just released earlier was actually already prepped, ready to be rolled down out whenever the supreme court ruling came out. and it features a testimonial from a high risk ob doctor in idaho who said that she physically left the state after treating her patients. that because she was afraid that she could be criminally charged. and she said that the laws in her state are barbaric. given that in an image medical emergency, every second matters. take a listen two years ago, trump overturned roe v wade because of the abortion bans across the country, women's lives are at risk physicians could be tried with a felony. >> 4, saving that woman's life too early. this kind of impassion testimony from a doctor like this is kind of a familiar move from the biden campaign at this point they very much a leaned into the strategy of using a individual voices, highlighting individual stories to paint a picture of the real-world consequences of roe being overturned. and i think the ad and how it was rolled out as a good reminder to that for the body and campaign, their message on this issue is going to remain the same regardless of individual legal rulings and decisions. and that is that individual rights and freedoms were taken away under donald trump and more could be taken away if there was a second, trump term app the white house and mj, that obviously is going to be one of the lines of attack from president biden tonight. he's been camped out at camp david practicing for this debate now for several days, what can you tell us about the broader strategy and what his team is anticipating? >> yep. or as he has just boarded air force one, he is making his way now here to atlanta. and really this is the first time that we have seen him in public in days, and we have been reporting over the past week on any detail that we can find out about what's been going on at camp david in these debate prep sessions i think what has been really clear, what has been the biden team's ethos is really that they want to leave nothing to chance. they have been trying to prepare the president for really any issue under the sun that could come up and really trying to prepare the president two for any version of donald trump that could emerge on the debate stage tonight and unhinged just off former president or a more disciplined and on message donald trump and including one that might be throwing insults and personal attacks, including about members of the president's family. and they are just wanting to use tonight to make the case to the american voters that there is going to be a binary choice come november and that president biden, in their view, is the only acceptable choice on election day mj lee, thank you for that report will be checking in with christian homes and the trump campaign here in a moment. yeah. so let's discuss tonight's historic debate and the implications with our panel of experts. thank you so much for waiting around for us. gloria, this issue of abortion central to the biden argument for reelection how do you think the supreme court decision might play into the debate tonight? >> well, i think it's going to play into it in a big way because joe biden is going to make sure that abortion is front and center. but when people watch these debates and we've got experts here who have trained people on these on how to participate in them. i don't think there necessarily looking for that one issue. they're they're looking for a person's character. they're looking for a person's authenticity. they're looking to see how somebody approaches the person standing next to him how that would be president or president talks to them directly correctly. does he talked down to them? does he talk directly at them? does he appeal to them? i mean, there are all of these kind of character issues and they're sort of unknown, but people come away with a sense who won. we, we talk about who won, who lost. people come away with a sense of does this person deserve to be in the oval office? can i live with this person for four more years? do i want to and i think that's really what people are looking for because as we've all pointed out, these are two pretty unpopular guys. so they have to do something to appeal to the folks who are watching, particularly those those in the middle, the independent voters who maybe undecided still do you think that's right, molly, it's not so much who they trust or who they're inspired by, but who they think they can handle as they watch these two tonight for the next four years. yeah. well, this is the depth that we have sunk to, right? it's like can you just tolerate this person? i know you don't like them. cupp, can you just put up with them for four years? i think laura is exactly right. i do think that the most successful debaters, the most successful candidates, the most successful campaigns, are the ones that are able to tie the character argument to a governing in argument. and we've seen the biden campaign start to try to do this with the ad that they released in the last week or two, right. saying that the reason you should care that trump is a convicted felon is because they argue he is focused on his grievances and not on the people he's supposed to be taking care of. and so i think on an issue like abortion you may you see them try to do the same thing saying because of what we know about trump, because of they would argue he's not compassionate, he doesn't care about people. that is why you cannot trust him with these types of decisions. and so anything that puts abortion back on the front burner puts it in the news. the biden campaign feels it is helpful to them, even if it's a decision like this that preserves abortion access, it's another reminder of what states are doing on abortion. now that, you know, in trump's are meant he's returned to the issue to the states the flip side of that is if you're donald trump, you have to try to have a conversation about can you trust joe biden with the keys to this car? >> he has to get an a place where we're having to living room conversation with the family about do we take grant balls keys away? i think most people have gone through in their lives with older relatives that's biden's biggest vulnerability tonight is looking like he's not up to the job and trump's task is to ease into that conversation and compassionate way that most americans will understand without a scene bombastic jamaal, i'm curious what you make of that characterization so they want to characterize the republicans like to characterize joe biden is kind of an early grandpa. i think most people who've worked with joe biden think of him as an elder statesman right? here's somebody who knows very well the mechanics of governing and they know the personalities and how to get them done. and we've seen the evidence that we've seen bipartisan legislation on infrastructure and environment on dealing with guns. and it's all happened. he's tried to have a bill and immigration republicans want attacking my immigration. the president had a bill, an immigration. it was bipartisan. the reason it didn't pass because donald trump blew it up. not because joe biden did. so that is the argument that i think this elder statesman who wants to preserve your freedoms and your choices versus donald trump to take them away. the brad, if it is, i mean, this portrayal of biden as an elderly grandfather the thing that donald trump is so often evoked is that of the crazy uncle and we've heard that said time and again, how does he? >> combat that? in this appearance? because it is sometimes hard for him to not give into that impulse. we know it's funny and his, his rally in philadelphia this week and he asked the audience, as donald trump would want to do, he pulled the audience whether he should be really tough on to biden, or whether he should be nice to him. >> and so it's almost like trump is weighing this whole strategic after my? cooling, you want ice cream or do you want here we're seeing that's great. i think you're seeing an inner monologue for trump on stage, right? there wasn't really about pulling the crab. this is him trying to take his strategic approach and in the end joe biden is at 38% approval the challenger wins that election. that's how that's how it works. trump's job is to keep this on the approval of joe biden. and i think that that question is going to bring out a little bit more disciplined and donald trump than we've seen lovingly. donald trump isn't exactly popular himself though. and that's, he may not be at 38%, but he's pretty low. and so how can he makes joe biden less popular without deflecting some of that to himself he's not known for nuance. and so how does he make people dislike joe biden more without disliking donald trump i'm curious, practical to go back to the conversation about the issue of abortion. donald trump has said something when speaking to republicans specifically about the issue that i think is enlightening. he said go with your heart. but remember that you have to get elected. that's an issue that's tricky for republicans and end tricky for him isn't it? well, donald trump's bit most of his adult life first approach choice democrat. so then it's kind of ironic joke. joe biden's a catholic who has spent much of his career pro-life or things are scrambled. i think donald trump has going to probably end up moving the republican party's position in this to look more moderate spot in this election. he's already said reb, no federal, federal law under his tenure. but i think is best static strategy is going to be to try to take that issued the audience that matters to lower income non-college women and talk pivoted to inflation to other concerns and their life. that'll be the key test. and out of whether he's he's really a master of the pivot is to go back, take that audience that joe biden's targeting and go to a different issue. >> i just don't think donald trump is trustworthy on this question, right? he is the one who appointed the three justices that help get rid of roe v. wade he is also said in the past that he's 415 week abortion ban, which is a national abortion ban right you pick in the number, but it's a national abortion ban so now he's saying that that's necessarily true and people and so what he's arguing because i don't worry about what you actually believe, say what you need to say to win the election. that was exactly what people don't like about politics. >> let me ask you to play devil's advocate on that a little bit. i mean, the vast majority, more than 90% of abortions are performed before that point. and then the other thing is when you look at this decision that became public today that we go get a glimpse at yesterday. two of the justices, brett kavanaugh and amy coney barrett, are citing with the majority. now, this is something that is it's just sort of temporary, but it keeps in place this ability to provide this abortion care. and i wonder if that allows trump two point and say, yeah, my appointments were not so extreme. look what they just did. they are finding a middle ground. what do you say to that? >> i say it was the vice president, kamala harris says, very often when asked this question, that should be your decision left between a woman, her doctor, or the people that she loves and trust. and when she's just to include but not the government, not the government. there's no reason to have ron desantis, nick conversation or donald trump in the middle of a conversation. and if they believed that it's medically necessary or if it's necessary for whatever reason the woman chooses, then that's a decision for that group of people to make. it's not a decision for government officials to make. partly the response to this decision by the supreme court, molly bye the biden team included the idea that the next president might choose to supreme court justices. we saw donald trump back in 2016, according evangelicals telling them, i will appoint supreme court justices who would overturn roe versus wade. how effective a promise is this? for president biden? >> i think frankly it's not that effective just because even if he were to appoint two supreme court justices, which i think is pretty unlikely, you cannot change the balance of this court. this is a 6-3 conservative court and i if those two supreme court justices who might retire, unlikely to be too conservative graves who he could nominate liberals in their place. so you know, in 2016, both trump and hillary clinton could credibly argue that they had the ability to direct the future of the court ideologically in one direction or another. i think the people who are making this decision on the basis of the future of the supreme court already know who they are voting for. i really doubt that there's a lot of supremum a lot of voters out there who wake up and say, oh, i wasn't going to vote or i didn't know who i was going to vote for. but now that you tell me that's the supreme court either might get less, slightly less conservative or state or get even more conservative, but it'll still be as conservative court. i think that's a that's a hard and a very abstract argument to make. you know, the irony here is that neither of these candidates like to talk about abortion very much. >> it is a huge issue. it is the best issue that democrats have. it is an issue that has never made joe biden comfortable for the reasons that brad pointed out before. it is an issue that has never made donald trump comfortable because he used to be pro-choice. and now he's trying find that middle middle ground, that real estate deal in the middle. and neither are these guys like talking about it. but they're going to have to find a way to do that to appeal again to those voters who are still undecided about which person they're going to go with in the end, it's not an easy conversation for these two men to have to thinking raised the stakes on the vice presidential choice as well because again, you have joe biden, kamala harris will probably harris much more comfortable talking about this all the time. and so if joe biden picks, i mean, if donald trump pick somebody who's doubled down on his position he actually is not reaching out to the rest of the country where 60 something percent of the country says that they don't want the government involved in the woman's right to make a choice about our health care? well, we never had an election. borden liberals voted on supreme court, conservative vote on supreme court all the time. >> i think we didn't the midterm well, we did we've never had a presidential election where that's happened. and so this would be the first one. it might be the first one. but in the end, the joe biden's problem is already there with this issue looming over it. he's still at 38%. why? because of immigration and the economy and so that's why i think we'll end up talking about tonight because he didn't fix that. there's nothing that can save them. >> this is just one of a slew of issues that we have to get through. so panel, please stand by. we're looking forward to engaging in more discussion after a few more breaks, i think we've got them coming up later. we have more still had cnn's kristen holmes is standing by in this spin room for all the latest from the trump camp, state would see tomorrow, the west was hoped to create a better life there was a promise and america, if it tough enough, mean enough, it can be doors horizon, an american saga only in theaters tomorrow the best way to solve a problem is to keep it from happening ever north, we combine medical and pharmacy data with behavioral health data to identify members in need of care predicting treating behavioral health issues quickly while lowering costs for plan sponsors and members that's wonder made possible ever north health services with consumer cellular is fast and reliable coverage. >> it's easy to when hey siri text beth susie says, are pop, pop oh, grayson, i get two months for you and you buy any iphone, iphone 15 pro with titanium life is better with the credit god's on your side. >> rewards once available to the few are now accessible to the many credit one bank the cashback rewards and lins large time to press rewind with neutral genome, rapid wrinkle repair. >> it has derm proven retinal expertly formulated to target stem cell turnover and fight not one, but five signs of aging, physical results in just one week neutral, gina here's some information about replacing windows and doors that just may surprise you. >> i'm brian gary. i'm here with brian price from renewal by anderson. hey, brian, homeowners always ask for windows aren't even 10-years-old. why do i have to replace them? 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