consultation again, that's 1807123800 violet earth with me of fibers sunday at nine on cnn closed captioning brought to you by rue la la, iconic brands up to 70% off retail at roulette law.com rubella you never faithful sees the deals before there hello, i'm briana. q or alongside boris sanchez in atlanta, georgia. and we are hours away from cnn's historic presidential debate and what shaping up to be the most pivotal moment yet of this unprecedented rematch right now, president biden is on his way to atlanta after a full week of extensive debate, prep, people close to biden expecting him to frame the january 6 insurrection as a seismic era defining moment which should be a pivot point away from the trump era, means on former president trump is expected to arrive here at the debates side in a few hours. but before leaving his mar-a-lago estate in florida, he lashed out on social media attacking president biden as a quote, threat to the survival and existence of our country. and just hours before tonight's big showdown, the supreme court issuing a major ruling on abortion that could have huge implications on the 2024 race, or live from the cnn debate hall, the spin room, and from the magic wall following all the the important data leading up to tonight let's start with cnn's mj lee or senior white house correspondent and nj were told that president biden was planning to target trump on reproductive rights and in his role in overturning roe versus wade even before this new supreme court ruling, what more can you tell us about the strategy yeah, you're absolutely italy right? >> boris, even if we had not gotten this supreme court ruling today, reproductive rights was always going to be one of the biggest areas of focus for president biden heading into tonight. it is one of the three domestic issues of the campaign has made clear that they see as being most politically salient an areas where they can really san, to draw the sharpest contrast against donald trump. that is the economy. the issue of democracy and this abortion and reproductive rights. and just to give you a sense what's up, how much the biden campaign is really going all in on this issue. we are told that this ad, that the campaign just released was actually all prepped and ready, ready to go? for whenever this specific supreme court ruling was going to come down. and this ad features a testimonial from a high risk ob doctor from idaho so who says she actually physically left the state because she feared criminal persecution after the treatment that she gave some of her patients. take a listen two years ago, trump overturned roe v wade because of the abortion bans across the country, women's lives are at risk physicians could be tried with a felony for saving that woman's life too early the penalties are so severe felony in imprisonment, loss of license. those are terrifying thing these laws are truly barbaric. they are putting us back decades, if not centuries. donald trump did this. he put women's lives in danger now, this kind of impassion testimony from a doctor like this that's a familiar move from the biden campaign they've really leaned into the strategy of highlighting individual stories coming from women and families. >> a medical professional, because they would like to highlight and really paint a picture of all of the real-world consequences of roe being overturned. and just to drive home this point even more, the fact that this ad i was created before the supreme court ruling at a course, nobody could have known exactly what the ruling would be. it goes to show that the biden campaign's up broader message on this this tissue is going to be the same regardless of the individual legal rulings and decisions that may come down. and that message is really that fundamental rights freedoms were taken away under donald trump of the past few years of obviously been a chaotic and traumatic for a lot of people on this ron, and they want to try to make the point heading into tonight. but the next four years could be even worse really, if donald trump were to get another second term. >> all right. mj lee, thank you for that. let's get to cnn's kristen holmes holmes, who is live for us from the cnn spin room. christian, are you hearing anything from the trump camp about the supreme court's abortion ruling will breanna, they do not want donald trump to linger on abortions and they have obviously prepped him extensively for how to talk about abortion when those questions are inevitably asked, he is going to say that this is a state's decision. >> but when it comes to actually going to detail, they do not want him lingering on a board and because because they don't believe it as a politically winning issue for them, they have been coaching him extensively, are having conversations on how to pivot from topics like abortion, like democracy, like his role in january 6, two topics like the economy and inflation, immigration and crime. and that's because of recent polling that they have seen were donald trump does better with american voters on those issues now one of the thing things i will point out is that despite the fact that they are asking donald trump extensively to stay on message, they are putting out new ads that go after joe biden. take a listen when you think about the joe biden is shown the debate ask yourself a question. do you think the guy who was defeated by the stairs got taken down by his bike, launched a fight with his jail i can and regularly gets lost makes it four more years in the white house. and you know, he's waiting, right now. >> one thing i'll point out there is that trump's allies and donors that i have spoken to have really sad that they hope that he stays away from intense of corrosive personal attacks. i say it's unlikely he can do that for the entire time, but they really want him to stay on message with the issues and the campaign did put out another ad talking about inflation. this is really, unique situation for the trump campaign because remember, they actually haven't been flooding the airwaves, but they put out these two ads on debate day, which will air in various battleground states, as well as washington ten dc. now one thing i want to note about donald trump's day-to-day as boris mentioned, we have seen a lot of posts on social media, a lot of commentary about fox news and cable news so clearly he is spending his de in the lead up to coming here to atlanta, which we expect to see him around 530 watching tv. and was we've said sensibly, he is not going to do any kind of what they call quote-unquote prep. but we do know that he has had very in-depth policies, sessions, conversations, and talking to a lot of people we'll round them about what to expect and how to act tonight all right. >> we'll be waiting to see how that plays out. kristen holmes. thank you for that. and history tells us the debates they can really make or break candidates joining us. now we have harry entin with some of the past defining moments, how they impacted the race. so let's do this. let's get in the delorean. yes, let's accelerate to the nece necessary at eight miles per hour. good. and go back not to 1985, but 21976, carter versus ford. >> let's do it. let's get that the lorien various no domination of eastern europe and there never will be under a ford administration okay, so this is the 1976 campaign that was the second debate before the second debate, jimmy carter had a two point lead after that moment from gerald ford, in which he denied the obvious that was soviet domination over eastern europe. >> look at what happened. carter's lead went up to five points. what's so important? here was that jerry 4, the incumbent president at the time, had been chipping away at carter's lead after the first debate, this being the second debate he seemed to have some real momentum and then that debate moment combined with the rest of that second debate, halted that momentum. carter jumped out to a five-point lead and he was able to hold on. and when the general election come november we also have a now iconic moment from the reagan carter debate. let's look at that who stand there in the polling place and making a decision? >> i think when you make that decision, it might be well, if you would ask yourself are you better off than you were four years ago? >> i mean, that probably is one of the most iconic debate moments in history. you know, i love watching these all debates. i'm looking forward to tonight. and this one really seal the deal for ronald reagan in 1980. so this is carter versus reagan, carter going for reelection pre-debate, reagan had a lead, but it was just two points and the average of paul's, this jumped up to a six zero point lead. he ended up winning by ten points. there were some real questions despite jimmy carter's low approval rating, could ronald reagan step waze that extreme? he came from the conservative end of the republican party. and the fact was that debate performance and that closing statement really just sort of encapsulated that reagan was ready for the moment. he was presidential, he wasn't since two extreme and jimmy carter just didn't know how to deal with the nation's else. >> yeah, really captures the momentum. you see that the numbers there, and it's not just about flubs in great one-liners, right? audio cues could impact a race here. so let's look at then vice president gore versus george w bush. and the 2000 debate i've had a record of appointing judges in the state of texas that's what a governor gets to do man's practicing fuzzy math again there's differences let me give you one example. >> the struck family and allen town, pennsylvania campaign with him the other day they make $51,000 combined income well, that didn't really work out for al gore. there were real questions going into that first debate whether or not george w bush was presidential, was you smart enough to actually take on the job? remember, al gore is a harvard guy. everyone expect them to crush in that debate. he crushed in the vice presidential debates in 1992 and 1996 but in this one he screwed up. he screwed up. he was seen as somebody who was rude and look at what happened pre-debate, al gore was up by zero point post that first debate. look at this george w bush jumps out to a four-point lead. he was seen as presidential people really liked him. al gore even had such a poor debate, snl mocked him, and then going into the second debate they tried to do completely different things and tried to be more energetic. and it was just this completely crazy thing. george w bush won that debate and then went on to win the presidency by just 537 votes, thanks to florida, we'll see if we have that close of an election this time around. but you know what debates are magical moments and tonight hopefully, we'll get one of these moment once that may be changes the race for good for one candidate, for bad for the other, no one loves an audible sigh. >> do they know no. >> thank you. i didn't you i didn't have one during this segment and thank you for that. the lorien ryan, i appreciate that. and thank you. harry entin. now, boris has made his way down to the debate hall give us a little tour there. boris we're gonna this stage is just about sets. cnn teams are literally here right now, putting the finishing touches on what will be a historic night at 9:00 p.m. tonight, president joe biden is going to walk out through that side of the stage. and former president donald trump will walk out through that side of the stage. the two of them will take their podiums are set exactly eight feet apart. let's give you a look at what's actually up here. the debate rules state the big and only have three items with them. paper, a pen, and a cup of water, right there on the back of a podium. the most important part of this podium, not just the mic, but also this light remember, candidates mics are going to be cut off. they're going to be muted when they're time has expired. so when their mics are on, that light is going to be green. when they are done, it is red how are the questions actually going to work? this is the view from the candidates of our moderators, jake tapper and dana bash. basically, when it starts, they're going to ask an overarching question to one of the candidates. the candidates will have two minutes to respond to their question, then the opponent has a minute for a rebuttal after that the first candidate gets an additional minute to respond to that rebuttal and keep in mind the moderators have an extra minute if they want to ask a follow. that's a lot of time cuz how are the candidate is going to know how much time they have left? that's where be careful with a camera equipment in a studio that's where these lights above the cameras come in handy. that's going to turn green when the candidates have 15 seconds left to speak, will turn red. a flashing red when they have five seconds left to speak and a full red light will shine off the top of that camerota when they're time has expired the big question tonight is how will these candidates handle the rules? and one of the key questions when the mics are muted, are we going to be able to hear if another candidate continues speaking again, they're only eight feet apart. so while we at home may have trouble making out what these candidates are saying to each other. the other candidate will undoubtedly be able to hear what's going on. a lot to anticipate tonight. again, it's going to be historic. briana. yeah. what a fascinating look, boris. and also so interesting, they cannot ignore that red light. that thing is going to be telling them to wrap it up all right, boris major, that's going to be huge and all right. it is. that's going to be huge. and obviously, the question of aggressiveness, just how much to these candidates want to go after each other, how much do they want to interrupt each other? we know that factored into the first debate in 2020, something that the former president donald trump has said he may try to avoid and perhaps interrupt fewer times this time around. >> yeah, we'll have to see how it turns out tonight. it's going to be so fascinating, uh, boris. all right, thanks. make your way on back to the studio. and as boris does that, we are now just hours away from an unprecedented presidential debate. president joe biden the former president trump, facing off right here on cnn. and in this critical battleground state of georgia, what they need to do, what they need to avoid and who they need to win over all of that coming up this hour on cnn, news central most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher, the president and the former president, one day to two very different visions for america's future. the cnn present ventral debate to 99 live on cnn and streaming on max what makes ewc so special? >> we do early great job 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atlanta tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern or panel of experts joins us now in jamaal simmons, we'd like to go to your first give us a sense of the stakes tonight. the sex are high. these debates are always tough. people pay a lot of attention to them. i prepare candidate for senate and president before who were trying to do these debates the biggest trick for the person onstage. remember if there they're not actually talking to the moderator, are talking to a lot of people who are at home, who are paying attention to this. so you can't get too wrapped up in what's happening inside the studio to the point where the people at home think you're just being weird. >> brad, todd, i mean, we just had hearing went and take us through past two debates that really made a difference, that arguably were these inflection points in campaigns, in election cycles. could this be one? i think it's possibly the most important debates since 1960 is a no question. the most important day in this camp payne. the 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