of this lecture and the stakes couldn't be higher. the president and the former president, one stage two, very different visions for america's future. the cnn presidential debate tomorrow night at nine, live on cnn and streaming on max happening now, the final countdown to cns historic presidential debate with just one de to ago before president joe biden and former president donald trump go head-to-head right here in atlanta. >> we're getting do behind the scenes details and how the candidate let's hope to impress voters and attack one another we're also following a breaking story. the united states supreme court reportedly tips that's han briefly posting a draft ruling on a pivotal abortion case we're breaking down the apparent decision and how it was mistakenly released. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world, i will flits you're in atlanta and year in the situation room we're coming to you live from cnn studios in atlanta, the back drop for the first debate between a sitting president and a former us president. in the history of this country, president joe biden and former president donald trump now in the final stages of their very different forms of preparation for tomorrow's critically important to be cnn's political team is here in force, working hey, there are sources just ahead of this unprecedented event kristen holmes, i want to start with you. you've got some new reporting. i take it on the trump team's plans on how they're going about what's good, what's about to happen? >> yeah, we were talking a lot about the format and recent days and how this would affect whether it be donald trump or president joe biden. and one of the things that i had noted pressed was a real shift in how the trump team was discussing the format. now of course unsurprisingly, they were complaining about it originally talking about how this was actually going to hurt donald trump because he didn't have an audience to work off of, of that muted mics might hurt him. but now what i've started to hear from the trump team is that they're hoping that this act actually helps him talking about this idea that particularly because there is no audience that donald trump can't get distracted. i mean, what we have seen over and over again in these various rallies is donald trump really feeding off of his base, feeding off of there, sometimes enthusiasm to go on these rants, which is exactly the a set of what they want donald trump doing, what they really want donald trump to do is to focus on three key issues. the economy, particularly inflation immigration, and crime. because if he look at recent polling, those are the areas in which she outperforms president joe biden. so even if there are questions and they are preparing them for questions on abortion or on democracy, what they want him to do is figure out how to pivot to those three to those three issues and what they're hoping is that this lack of audience will help with that, isn't there a possibility though that if his mic is muted, he'll get angry and that hill took over a muted mike and could make it worse than they than they want, rather than calm down. it could read thema well has been interesting to see the reflection that donald trump has done something that we don't often see from the former president of watching old clips of himself, you actually said and a brother candidate interview with the washington examiner that he thought he interrupted joe biden too much, right? in 2020. so clearly something that he is paying attention to know whether or not that stops him. obviously, no one can control donald trump. no one can say they will, but it's clearly something is paying attention to mj. >> you have some new reporting on by advisers who have been watching trump and what trump has been saying in recent days. yeah. i mean, the biden team has essentially been watching really closely everything that kristen just laid out all of the expectations setting, but they've been doing including really downplaying how much debate prep they've actually been doing. they're not spending a lot of time on debate prep. there are no formal sessions. they basically think that none of that is true. they actually believe that on thursday night, but trump version that we will end up seeing could end up being the most prepared that donald trump has ever been heading into a debate. one adviser i was talking to was making note of the fact that trump even commented recently on watching and seeing and making notes on when president biden, when he was vice president going up against paul ryan. so that's shows you what the biden team is actually expecting. they expect it to be more prepared perhaps than we've ever seen him. they're also very attuned to the fact that they have now up the expectations for president biden after months of saying he's not physically all there. he's not mentally all they are now all of a sudden in his book, to be a formidable candidate on the debate stage, i will say in the final sort of ours as we head into tomorrow, it is really about fine tuning those details. they are in mock debate sessions at they have the president's lawyer at behind the podium standing next to the president, doing the full run-throughs and we know from speaking to a it's at the experience that they want to give the president, is that having him? experienced everything that might come up in those 90 minutes jeff zeleny, what are the stakes hi, i mean, this isn't hyperbole to say it historic setting, but the history books don't offer a lot of examples because we've never seen this before. but the reason that this debate is the earliest and presidential campaign history is because both sides see you an imperative here to kind of up in this race to unstick this race of us. but for president biden, i think beyond anything to show that he is not only in in-control, a strong leader, but he is capable and fit to serve a second term. that is one of the questions when you talk to democratic voters and others how he doing? so i think his appearance is going to be an his stamina will be central to this, but it's also his record. he's done many debates over the course of his time, but never won like this. never one we're his sort of own stewardship and record of the economy of inflation is going to be agenda item a here. so yes, i'm told by one adviser he wants to remind people what the trump presidency was like. sort of chaotic and the like. but also, he'll be defending his own record, which he hasn't done. a lot of. so when for him is looking strong for i think for for the former president, a win for him is being calm and saying, look, are you better off than you were at the beginning of my term or right now? economically speaking? >> yeah. i'm talking to a biden adviser. i think one of the things that they really want to do is make the case that donald trump doesn't deserve to be president of the united states, period that's it. he doesn't deserve it. look at who he is felony convictions, whatever look at what he's done look at what he says he's going to do in the future because he hasn't kept it as seek great and they want biden to make the case that this is not somebody deserving of the highest office in the land, and that they, they want to do that in a way that points out exactly what. donald trump has been talking about, which perhaps people haven't been paying that much attention to, right? and so they're going gonna they're gonna raise it. look at this is what he says, mass deportations. this so i think it's kind of one of his challenges which is to say, this man doesn't deserve to be in the oval office kristen i know that trump made some rather controversial comments to a black business leaders about his mug shot. >> talk about that. yeah, i mean, this is something he is that kind of before, just not directly. two black business layers, but he has said it in rally is for two things can be true at ones which are as often the case when it comes to donald trump. he is seeing a spike. obviously, that he's not going to win over black voters in total, but he is seeing a spike among minority voters, particularly black and latino voters. now that is a true part of this, but the other part of this is what he is saying in a tree tribute to that spike which we heard today. so let's take a listen to that it's just a terrible thing. >> it's weaponization and it comes out of the white house even when it city and state comes out of the white house in order to attack a political opponent but since that happened, the black support, i think by representatives will tell you this to black support has gone through the roof, i guess they occur waited two problems that they've had but since this has happened, like the mug shot, the mug shot is the best set obviously these are controversial on america because he is equating himself to what has been persecution of african americans for decades in the united states of america and saying that his mug shot over his legal crimes are his legal problems are linked to them. >> so obviously a controversial remark, something he clearly believes to be true. but again, they are seeing some kind of movement within the black community in terms of voters he himself is equating it to this in glory. >> what's your reaction well, i think it's absurd. >> i mean, i think what he's saying is that black voters can relate to criminality that they look at this mug shot and they say, oh, yeah, i can i can relate to that felonies. yeah. oh, yeah. i can relate to that. i'm sure i've been unjustly convicted of things in my own life and i think that it's insulting to be honest, to the black community and i obviously, trump doesn't mean for it to be insulting because he's looking for black support. but it is incredibly insulting to say to black voters, oh, yeah, this is something maybe you can relate to and that's why my numbers are going up all right. there's a lot going on and we're only just getting started this our thanks to all of you coming up. the moderator of the first trump biden debate back in 2020, see it as chris wallace joins us live to this discuss the challenges of keeping the candidates on topic. after that famously chaotic face-off and the u.s supreme court appears poised to side with the biden the administration in a major abortion case. we have details on the premature reveal of the decision. we're live here in atlanta and you're in the situation to bait like in america, as biden and trump meet only cnn has complete coverage with unrivaled access and exclusive pre and post of beit analysis follows cnn for every countless moment followed debate night in america tomorrow at 7:00 p.m. one second. grandma disguise going to buy my car. >> okay. do you need carbonic entering plate number no accidents, right? 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attached to the cameras in the studio and in the candidates field of view or the timing lights when the light show yellow, there are 15 seconds left and it candidates answer or response. when the lights flash red, there are five seconds left, and when the display is solid red the time is up at that point, the candidates microphone will be turned off and the other candidate will have their microphone turned on. my colleague victor blackwell has more on that thank you, phil. >> if we go behind the podiums, you can see two green lights when they're on, they signal to the candidate his microphone is on when the green lights are off, they signal to the candidate. his microphone is off. now i want to give you a sense of what it will look like for viewers at home. if a candidate whose microphone is off interrupts the candidate whose microphone is on. so i'm standing, get one podium, and i'll ask phil to come in and take the other podium. and so let's say i'm answering a question. my light is green and i'm speaking feels microphone is off and his green lights are not illuminated. he's going to interrupt me as i'm speaking. and this is what it will sound like. my volume remains constant while fills into russian can be difficult to understand let's try the opposite. >> my microphone is now on victors microphone is off and he's going to interrupt me my volume remains constant while victors interruption can be difficult to understand. a sentence production team has shared this demonstration with the campaign's earlier today, and we're sharing it with you, our viewers we're so everyone fully understands how tomorrow night will work. now, we should note by agreeing to participate in this debate, both campaigns and candidates have also agreed to buy by these rules. the cnn presidential debate airs live tomorrow night at 9:00 p.m. eastern phil mattingly and victor blackwell to both of you. thank you very much. let's talk a little bit more about what to expect tomorrow night with the moderator of the very first biden-trump debate back in 2020, cnn akre, chris wallace is joining me here in the situation room. chris, thanks very much. let me play a clip from that 2020 debate. hi to you and our viewers. no one little segment that happened he racist you just the worst, whereas america has ever had used the word smart all right so you said you went to delaware state, but you forgot the name of your college justice left. would you base and who is on your list? you don't you write, gentlemen, i think pack chris like that debate. this one is a critical moment in this presidential campaign. give us the stakes here. what's your assessment? >> oh, i think it's a normalise like consequential. i maybe more so for joe biden than donald trump. but whoever has a good night versus whoever has a bad night, it's gonna be a big deal and i say the biden because he's the one who asked for this early debate. this is the earliest debate ever had been september 19 of 1980. now, we're going to have one in june and i think that the reason the biden camp called for this is because in the swing states that were behind, they feel that they need to sharpen the contrast the emphasize the stakes are this rice and that there may be some trump amnesia. people may have forgotten some of the things that donald from did as president. and since he's been president, and they want to remind good point that a recent interview is, you know, with the washington examiner, trump's said this about the debate you moderated back in 2020 he said this, i'm quoting him now. i was very aggressive in the first one. the second one, i was different and i got great marks on the second one. so what kind of donald trump are you expecting to show up tomorrow well, it's interesting. >> it took them four years, but he finally admitted that he acted foolishly as a bullae brutally in the first debate, and that had heard him, it doesn't hurt biden. i think he thought if i just keep interrupting them, it's going to throw them off. but as i say, i'd heard trump not biden in the second debate, he let biden talk and biden makes mistakes of the zone and there was one famous moment in that second debate where biden said, i'm going to transition away from from oil and trump said a transition away from oil, hey, texas, i hope you're listening to that and i think that there who knows what's going to happen. but i think their plan going in is to let biden taught war, not at erupt, and then counterpunch when they think that he has depth done, what does it tell you about the fact that these two candidates are preparing? 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