night? next four years behind closed doors, president biden is huddling with advisers at camp trump were that's according to some of the sources we're talking to for his part, trump's debate prep appears to include posting on his truth, social official account. consider this rant that says, quote, drug test for crooked joe biden. i would also immediately agreed one that's from the former president and club. it's the latest bizarre and baseless suggestion for trump and his allies that biden will need some sort of performance enhancing drugs for the cnn showdown, recovering both campaigns this morning with cnn's kristen holmes and kevin lip tack. kevin, let's begin with you. there's a new ad from the biden campaign. what's it say? >> yeah, i think it does give you a preview of the economic message that they're going to focus on the debate because as you mentioned and as is typical, the president and his team are getting a lot of incoming from democrats. they're concerned about the president track to take two much cricket credit for his economic record. remember this is the whole bidenomics approach that they've tried to adopt over the last year. and the issue that they're running into is that it hasn't necessarily sunk in with voters despite record job gains, despite economic growth, many americans just don't feel all that strong about the economy. >> and the concern is that president biden as would be natural, wants to take credit for some of these gains. >> but these democrats who are talking to the campaign really want him to go on the offensive, avoid taking a victory lap and really try and ramp up the contrast with former president trump. and what he says are policies that would be inflationary, things like broad-based tariffs, things like lowering during the corporate tax rate we did get a little preview of how they might frame this in an ad that they put out today. let's watch donald trump loves to attack joe biden by joe biden because he's focused on revenge and he has no plans to help the middle-class. >> he just give more tax cuts to the wealthy joe biden is working every day to make your life more affordable. donald trump is only out for himself. joe biden is fighting for your family so you can see kind of the framing that they're going to use. >> there was actually a statement from one of the biden campaign folks this morning that went even a little further. he said that trump was a white collar crook who's there's only in it for themselves. and you can see them kind of sort of tying the former president's legal issues with his economic plans. all of these attacks that they're trying to hone up at camp david as they continue their prep or variance. >> and kristen holmes, you're also with us, trump apparently is back at mar-a-lago this morning. you're told that he's going to hold more of what? the team is calling policy sessions ahead of the debate. what more can you tell us yeah, he's been hunkered down for the next two-and-a-half days. >> he's having phone calls with allies, talking to senior advisers, going over the policies that they hope that he is going to be focused on on thursday that includes the economy for some of the reasons that kevin laid out, but the american i can people tend to favor donald trump when it comes to talking about the economy? they also want him to focus on immigration. they believe this is a key issue for americans across the country and again, it is something that donald trump polls ahead of joe biden in, but this is really not your typical kind of drilling when it comes to debate prep, there is no one sitting there playing president joe biden, there was no one sitting there playing the moderators, jake or dana instead, it is really just conversations about what exactly donald trump should answer for for some of the questions that might be particularly hard now, trump yesterday, did an interview in which he said some of his answering of questions counts as debate prep. take a listen how are you preparing? i'm preparing by taking questions from you and others if you think about it, but i'm preparing by dealing with you you're tougher than all of them now he has been taking questions, various interviews. >> they said an interview with sean hannity and interview with dr. phil, that podcast interview all part of this preparation, but i will note that most of these interviews were friendly interviews. they also said that various events where he took questions from the audience was part of debate prep. again, these were friendly audience members, people who support the former president. but this is how he is preparing. but one thing i want to know, jim, what we have really seen in the last 48 hours is a leveling of expectations. you have heard from former president trump really saying that biden is incompetent, that he can't form a sentence. well, now you're starting to hear his team dial that back. we her jd vance yesterday, talking about how the bar was set too low for biden. we heard doug burgum over the weekend saying that biden was a formidable opponent, that he'd been debating for however, this is quite a different tune that with the former president has been saying, but it gives you some insight into where his team and allies minds are at heading into thursday all right. kristen holmes and kevin lift tech guys. thank you very much. join me now as president clinton's former director of speech writing, michael waldman, he's written nearly 2000 speeches, including for stay the unions prepared president clinton for the 1996 debates. he's the author of the super majority, how the supreme court is dividing america michael, thanks so much for being with us it has been the case in the past that incumbents sometimes performed poorly during their first debate what do you think? i mean, obviously do you heard kevin and kristen there are a few moments ago talking about all these expectations and where the bar is being set and the trump team first might've been setting the bar too low for joe biden and now they're conscious of that. where do you see things heading into this debate? >> well, it's definitely true that almost every incumbent president has lost the first debate. there, rusty, the surrounded by people who tell them everything they say it's brilliant. when they walk in a room of marine band plays hail to the chief they're often just not ready to hear their policies or excretion criticized face-to-face bill clinton, knew about his jinx. he practiced very hard and prepared very hard and did better. i think it seems like president biden is doing the same thing. a to camp david. it helps to be away from all the friendly advisers. lots of advice i think both biden and trump. >> of course, they're both old. >> they both have expectations. they can surpass trump, can surpass expectations by just not being the way he was last time. i think where where they will do well, either of them is in talking about the future and what they want and the contrast on policy less on the theatrical of it. >> yeah. >> and michael, i mean, what do you what do you make the way both candidates are preparing right now, both the president and the former president and sounds look like joe biden i'd maybe talking about are doing what you were just talking about a few moments ago, sort of preparing for this debate. the way bill clinton did. and in 1996 and donald trump is not doing as much debate, probably he's doing a lot of friendly interviews. what do you make that contrast there? >> you know it's like a heavyweight out there. they're each doing your thing. i would also take it all with a bit of a grain of salt some of the questions that people care about, of course immigration, the economy. i think the public this year also carries a great deal about the health of democracy. and that's going to be a challenge for joe biden, who said that this is a major issue for him to raise this. it's also something that trump has things to say about. i think that's also something i would encourage the cnn moderators not to rush past that issue because i think this year it's really something people care about and polls show it's a very high concern i'd absolutely is. and michael cnn has some reporting that outside advisers are urging the president to focus on trump rather than as first-term record. what do you make of that piece of reporting there? and i mean, biden is famously known for trusting a very small group of very much decide advisors, not outside advisers. what do you think and at some of the same people who actually worked with bill clinton i think presidents want to talk about what they see is that success of their record. >> i think democrats in particular get a lot of advice from the outside saying, don't brag about your performance in the economy, it'll seem like you're out of touch, like you don't feel people's pain i don't know that it debate is necessarily the best place to do it. i think that the contrast with the opponent. and again, both for biden and i would guess for trump to what is it that they plan to do? >> in the four years ahead? that's where people need to imagine with these two candidates who are much older than candidates have ever been michael, i'm sure you've been listening to some of this fodder going back-and-forth after months of painting, biden as senile and not kinda lost his step and so on trump and his surrogates are now saying that he's going to be a worthy opponent there even suggested that he may be getting some kinds of enhancements. obviously, there's no proof of that, but they're just saying it anyway, what do you make them all that? >> yeah. i mean, this is the kind of challenge i think in fact checking because it's not it's just an absurd statement and left out there it can be taken on a patina of some legitimacy. i mean, the interesting thing is as. we remember, biden, president biden did very well in the state of the union, surprised people. he showed a great deal and vigor i think debates are different. there are more intimate setting. biden thrived in the given take of the room in congress, trump thrives in the give-and-take of his rallies. at least he just plays a more distinctive persona. trump has expectation issues too, that he will very possibly be trying to surpass by not being as bombastic as he was four years ago. remember he had covid the turned out he was interrupting. i think the fact that the microphones are going to get actually could help him yeah, it might you're absolutely right about that. all right. michael waldman. great to talk to you as always. thanks so much. really appreciate it. and don't miss president biden hold president trump debate this thursday, june 27th, at 9:00 p.m. eastern, right here on cnn coming up, he's accused of one of the largest classify breaches in us history. now, julian assange could be a free man soon we will bring you a details of that deal the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher. >> the president and the former president, one stage to vary different visions for america's future. the cnn presidential debate thursday net it now live on cnn and streaming on max my grandfather's run my or the header for over 75 years now, 99-years-old and he come five days a week. >> if we let them shaped his grade to college life well lived for your bathing, finding the exact date on ancestry at that our family business was founded really struck a chord with my grandfather. i have never seen this before. where from all the stories that he's been able to hand me throughout the years for me to handle them that information. you don't get that moment every day first, we did the impossible you age so many of the possible that we completely ran out. >> and now they're foot, love cookies, back-end subway itch scratch must not itch stop the sanity with cortisone ten for bug bites, poison ivy, and other edges, cortisone ten is number one. doctor recommended. >> it works fast and last for hours. >> cortisone ten have heart failure with unresolved symptoms it may be time to see the bigger picture heart failure and seemingly unrelated symptoms like carpal tunnel syndrome shortness of breath an irregular heartbeat could mean something more serious, called attr cm are rare under-diagnosed disease that worsens over time. sound like you call your cardiologist and ask about attr cm okay. >> everyone, our mission is to provide complete balanced nutrition are strengthened energy ensure with 27 vitamins and minerals nutrients for immune health, and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein lactate is 100% real mouth just without the lactose delicious to just ask my old friend kevin. >> now than ligand join the call one while watching the game? 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what's the reaction been in israel rocker. >> you their rock ravid. >> can you hear me all right. >> we're gonna get back to barack in just a moment. in the meantime, julian assange is almost a free man. the wikileaks founder is on his way to his home country of australia after accepting a plea deal that will let him avoid the prison time in the u.s. this is just the latest twist and a nearly 15 year long saga involving one of the biggest breaches of us classified material in history. cnn's katy bow willis is following the developments katy, katy vogue you're in the studio with me. good thing. what's the reaction been to this? yeah. i mean, jim, look, this is maybe the last chapter and what has been a for some intelligence officials in deeply personal saga that has gone on for more than a decade as you've pointed out, of course, in 2010 when julian assange wikileaks first began publishing what prosecutors said was reams of classified data that he had goaded, then private chelsea manning and intelligence army intelligence specialist into illegally taking and then providing him to publish the concern, of course, was that this was going to expose sources and methods, right? the crown jewels for the intelligence community, how they obtain information. and in particular, officials were really worried that this was going to endanger the lives of people in iraq and afghanistan who were working with the us military, who were working with us intelligence community. it also was right off the bat, an incredibly controversial cases i'm sure you remember because there were, of course, people who believed that julian assange and wikileaks should be afforded the same first amendment protections that you were. i do. and in fact, there were revelations that came out of some of those documents that were newsworthy including including information patient about a us helicopter attack, military helicopter attack in iraq that killed civilians right? so right off the bat, hugely, hugely controversial case, the us intelligence community did do a damage assessment here. they ultimately came to believe that their worst fears had not been realized about the damage that might have been done, particularly, particularly to the lives of human assets but it remained really important for us officials to try to come up with some kind of deterrence here, right? like they didn't want another wikileaks copycat to try to come to the fore here obama administration, the doj obviously didn't move to charge him. the trump administration in 2019, did we are told that for justice department officials, it was really important to get to this guilty plea for a felony right. particularly related to the espionage act. so what this deal does is it is essentially going to allow a assange to avoid further jail time, he's there. it's essentially go to credit him with the time he spent in the uk jail, but it gets the justice department what it wanted, which is a felony charge, assuming a judge, if carol judge approves it on wednesday. thanks. want can you tell us a little bit about his travels back to australia and what that's going to involve the final step in this legal saga for him? yeah. exactly. right. so he's he's already left the uk and he is traveling first to a commonwealth and a us commonwealth in an island that is not terribly far from australia, although many, just about everything is far from australia but there is a us federal court there. this is in part, we are told because of his reluctance to set foil, set foot on the continental us, on us soil. and so he will, he will he will have his sentencing hearing in front of in front of a judge. they're assuming that that federal judge approves this deal than he will be allowed to travel on to australia and resume his life as a free man. >> fascinating. all right, we'll be watching all of that. katie wrote a little thank you very much. appreciate it. >> let's go back to the war in gaza. >> new video of the october 7 attacks, barak ravid is back with us. we've got you this time. barak. >> this video. we were just talking about a few moments ago when we lost our connection with you. what's the reaction been to this video in israel, it is very disturbing yes i think the main reason the what's called the hostage family headquarters, this is the ngo that represents most of the hostage families. >> the thing the reason that they decided to release this video, which the families themselves got something like a week ago, was that they felt that they needed to keep on the pressure on the government to put forward for a deal. and i think it was even more important in the current timing when you saw how in recent days, prime minister netanyahu walked back. these rarely proposal for a hostage deal, only to walk back his walk back a day later under pressure from the biden administration and from families of hostages. so i think this was one of the main reason we saw this video yesterday to make sure that the government is still committed to this hostage deal proposal yeah. >> and then yahoo is backtracking after appeared dismissive of that latest proposal for a ceasefire and release of hostages what are you hearing from your sources about this? >> i think people both in the biden administration and in the israeli negotiation team were stunned. when on sunday, when he gave i don't know if we can call it an interview when he participated in a talk show on channel 14, which is own mouthpiece, he basically said that he only wants a partial a hostage deal that will lead to the release of only some of the hostages, which is not what the israeli war cabinet approved. israeli war cabinet approved a three-phase deal that will lead to the release of all hostages in several stages. and to sustainable calm in gaza. and find you in that talk show seem to be walking in back and we drawing this proposal and they later, he needed to reiterate in a speech in the knesset that he's still committed to this proposal, but israeli officials told me that this dismissal by netanyahu, initial dismissal of antony of the proposal created a lot of damage because it basically send the message to hamas and to the rest of the world that israel was not genuine. and its proposal and brock un security council is bidding on gaza do we expect anything to come out of that it's it's a regular monthly meeting that security council doesn't the middle east part of it today is to give a report about situation in the west bank. >> obviously, gaza will also be covered, but it's not that there's any resolution on the table to be voted on. >> our barak review. thanks a lot. appreciate it. >> we're following breaking news out of tenure right now or anti-tax protesters have turned violent in that country, smoke is billowing out of the parliament building. >> you see right there on your screen in the capital city of nairobi as protesters stormed and you can see a lot of protesters right there. cnn as witness police firing, live rounds at the protesters in the streets. cnn's larry madowo spoke with for president barack obama's half sister as tear gas filled the streets because look at what's happening young kenyans demonstrate you for their rights, their demonstrating flags and banners. i can't even see anymore yeah, gosh. we have and this is a developing story, will bring you the latest information as it comes in. >> please stay tuned for that coming up, watching and waiting for the nation's highest court to weigh in on presidential immunity. how this could impact donald trump's outstanding federal cases. that's not celebrate go four is in america thursday, july 4th. they 70s dirt on see it in first. >> we did the impossible did you age so many of the impossible that we completely ran out. and now they're the footlong cookies is back-end subway hi, i'm greg. >> i live in bloomington, illinois i'm not an actor. i'm just a regular person. some people say, why should i say peripheries and i don't have a problem with my memory memory loss is not something that occurs overnight. i started noticing subtle lashes and memory. i want people to know that president has worked for me it's helped my memory, except my cognitive qualities give it a try. i wanted to help you just like it has helped me prevalent at stores everywhere without a prescription itch scratch must not itch stop the if sanity with cortisone ten for bug bites, poison ivy, and other edges, cortisone ten is number one. >> doctor recommended. >> it works fast and last for hours. >> cortisone ten deliveries happen order that this happens that happened, we get out of their charlie's of tobacco in the pitch. all that's happened there were three jump early friday deals at amazon.com i still can't believe he's gone his past few days has been a whirlwind. there's so much to arrange. i just wasn't prepared. >> no. but your mother was yeah. >> good thing. you and mom got those policies i had no idea how expensive all this would be. >> i know i didn't want to talk about it, but i'm glad she made us do it. >> and the payment is on the way already he really was as fast as they said. >> ramallah always made sure we were prepared i can't believe you both were able to qualify with your health issues? 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>> last friday in a case that was sort of under the radar because we were all talking about the big second amendment case. the justices ruled in otherwise low price profile immigration case involving a salvadoran husband, who was denied a visa to come and be with his wife what liberal dissenters said was that the way the just the conservative majority, the super majority that we now have at the supreme court decided that case. they took what would have been a routine immigration case and turned it into a major statement on abortion that the dissenters claimed could actually threaten the obergefell ruling of 2015 that had made same-sex marriage legal nationwide. and what they did was they invoked the dobbs decision of two years ago, you know, the decision that completely overturned abortion rights and when it reversed roe v. wade and said you, justices in the majority promised that other rights wouldn't be at risk. but the way you've analyzed this question in this immigration case, it is actually put at stake marriage, marriage rights, and it was quite a fierce dissent that almost was in some ways could have been too much for the case. so i think it really shows what could be going on behind the scenes. what they fear might be happening in cases coming down the pike for this term, but also what it might mean down the road as the justices take up more issues related to same-sex marriage, not so much. maybe the core issue. what issues around the margins of, you know, adoption in vitro fertilization, other issues that would be important in the marriage context. jim, regressive justice as they can they can talk about this stuff. they can fire off these warning shots, but they're basically i mean, i did kinda powerless at those. they are. and what they what they've got is the clarion call that they can make and say, look, what might be coming in the future. and i think that's they're going to they're going to use that that pulpit since they've got it because that's about all i've got right now. >> it's all they've got are joan biskupic, as always. thank you so much, great insights as always coming up a playbook of sorts, how project 2025 is looking to shape a potential second trump i'm term that's debate for pro athletes like me, right you're not finish all knew rafah subway today, i brought in a juror max protein with 30 grams of protein. >> those who tried me felt more energy and just two weeks here, i'll take that ensure protein 30 grams, protein one frame, sugar 25 vitamins and minerals, and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic time. do press rewind with neutral gina rapid regal repair. it has durham proven retinol expertly formulated to target stem cell turnover and fight not one, but five signs of aging. physical results in just one week, neutral gene i'm richard car and i love my host. my hose is lightweight my hose will not kink and my hose is anti leak at those old hoses this is my host. >> the new pocket host cupp bullet. >> now infused with real copper. so your water is always clean and lead free. just turn on the water and watch your hose grow and grow to a full-sized three-quarter inch hose. it stretches and expands like a rubber band. and when you turn off the water away, it goes shrinking and squeezing that water out until it's practically bone dry and that makes it easy to carry and put away our new inner tube uses three layers of high strength latex on the inside then it's wrapped in a new polymer filament jacket, similar to the technology used in forest fire hoses, because it's light and tough three times stronger than the other hoses. it's guaranteed for ten years nearly impossible to tear or snag and the redesign connector protector helped stop leaks at the spigot. but my favorite part of our new hose build the oversized, easily get a grip fittings, easy on and off, even with gloves with more than 100 patents worldwide, it's the best pocket hose in the world. get the super light, 25 foot pocket, those copper bullet today for only 29, 99, but wait, call now and get our copper spray nozzle with our exclusive the thumb drive free simply use your thumb to turn off and on and with ten unique patterns, you'll have a setting for every job. it's a $30 value yours free? 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>> what you're talking about is what's usually referred to as schedule f. the way the government works is there's a large amount of people who are just career civil servant employees, technical experts in whatever it is they do. they stay on regardless of who is in office? and then above them supervising them is a much smaller number of political appointees that the president appoints and the who essentially resign when there's a new president coming in. >> and the at the end of the trump administration they trump issued an executive order called schedule f that would have removed some special protections against firing career civil servants essentially turn them into at-will employees who could be dismissed for any reason, even if they committed no misconduct? >> and would make it easier to then replace them. as many as 50,000 of them with people who are loyal to trump's agenda this was a major challenge to the whole idea of a civil service system and not having the government be political spoils were jobs go to whoever supported, whoever happened to win the election deep into the ranks of the government it never happened because president biden came in and canceled it right after he took office the civil service system remains as it was, but trump has said, and the project 2025 people is certainly agree with him that one of the first things he would do if he comes back into power our is reimposed schedule f and turn large numbers, tens of thousands of career civil servants into people who could be fired at will and replaced with partisan loyalists right? >> i mean, if you listened to a lot of the trump people, what they will say one of their regrets about the first trump administration is that they, they thought there were too many federal bureaucrat standing in the way it charlie, i want to ask you a project 2025 also is proposing and straighten us out here if we've got this little bit off-base to eliminate a long list of terms from all laws and federal regulations, including sexual orientation, diversity, equity, and inclusion, gender equality, abortion, reproductive rights. i mean, this seems to come right out of the culture wars and i mean it's obviously something that a lot of these groups behind project 2025 have been after for many years now here in washington there's definitely what project 2025 has done so far as they produced 1,000 page book, that sort of lays out policy ideas in philosophy. they've come up with a large database of people who had been vetted at four potential positions to staff out. the next republican administration if there is one, and they are currently working on what they call the fourth pillar, which is executive orders and other things, specific concrete steps policies that can be signed in the first hundred and 80 days of a second trump administration. we haven't seen that those policy orders yet, but just from the thousand-page book, we know that one of the things they're very interested in doing is eliminating, as you just laid out both in the executive branch, which could be done unilaterally. and in some cases, that would require legislation in which of course is much harder to get through in washington things that they view as liberal in the culture wars, including diversity, equity, inclusion programs, and others, things that suggest a different worldview about rights yeah. >> i mean, i can imagine if trump comes into office and they tried to put this project 2025 and the action there's gonna be an army of lawyers aren't two armies of lawyers on both sides? fighting it out over all of this, right well, one of the things that we've done your times have been writing about is we've been exploring trump's plans and we've tried to focus specifically more on what trump has said and the campaign is said rather than what project 2025 is dead, but you i agree with you that it's important to but there is also already a burgeoning set of plans by the people who the groups and the centrist and liberals who resisted the first trump administration they were caught off guard in 2016 when he won just as trump himself was caught off guard and didn't really have a lot of these kind of plans in place and personnel lists in place because he didn't think he was going to win the election. >> and neither the day there was a lot of chaos in 2017, both in terms of the government trying to the executive branch trying to run itself as the trump administration kind of staggered to start. that's what project 2025 is aimed at preventing next time having it be trying to achieve their policy goals in a smooth way from day one. but also the centrist and liberal groups, like the aclu, like immigration rights groups like abortion rights groups, are laying in place plans to try to resist i strike at trump administration, should he win the election, they are drafting lawsuits, identifying potential plaintiffs blue states that are run by democratic governors and attorneys general are stockpiling abortion pills in case it becomes harder to acquire them over the next four years. so there's, both sides are really gearing up to do this all over again. but having learned a lot from last time all right, fascinating. it's a very important topic. i hope to get you back to early to talk about it again, charlie savage, a correspondent with the new york times. thank you very much for your time annual report spring, we really appreciate it. we'll be right back sunday on the whole story shocked ban was an american borders dive into the debate between conservation in short, gutters story with anderson cooper on sunday at eight and don't miss discovery sharpening starting sunday, july 7 itch, scratch must not stop the ip sanity with cortisone ten for bug bites, poison ivy, and other edges, cortisone ten is number one, doctor recommended. it works fast last for hours. cortisone ten right now, pet dander skin cells in dirt are settling deep into your carpet fibers. >> stanley steamer removes the dirt uc and the dirt you don't your corporates aren't clean until there's stanley steamer clean first we did a possible then you age so many of them possible that we completely ran out. >> and now they're the, footlong cookies, back-end subway knew i icy, hot pro massaging bone, easy to grip the massage and the power of 2 mac strength pain relievers. i just works fast he makes it less new icy hot pro massaging boehm hy to use asleep numbers? 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>> well, the ntsb chair is there in east palestine. they've been conducting this investigation for more than a year now, jim and what they're doing right now is they're telling the folks there in east palestine the results so far of this investigation, we have some of the highlights for you. for example, they found that norfolk southern needs to review and revise policies to ensure that going forward, accurate information about this type of derailment gets too first responders in a timely fashion. they say that that didn't not happen during the derailment in east palestine saying that it resulted in unnecessary exposure of emergency responders and the public to post derailment hazards. they also had a recommendation jim, to the state of ohio in terms of their volunteer firefighting force, saying that those volunteer firefighter as well, they did the best job that they possibly could. simply did not have the type of training that they needed for this type of this type of derailment. and third, that the rail industry needs to improve. its requirements for bearing detectors. again, remember, it was a faulty wheel bearing that pause this derailment. so again, this investigation is now wrapped up. they are speaking to the people of east palestine right now as we speak, giving them the results of that investigation, jim, very important investigation that people in those communities, they really want answers are adjacent, carol, thank you very much for that update really the appreciate it. coming up two days, two candidates, one pivotal moment, the countdown to cnn's presidential debate. it takes down, we have new reporting on how trump and biden are preparing for that face-off that's ahead the cnn presidential debate thursday night at nine life on cnn. >> and streaming on bad have heart failure with unresolved symptoms. >> it may be time to see the bigger picture. heart failure and seemingly unrelated symptoms like carpal tunnel syndrome shortness of breath and your irregular heartbeat could be something more serious called at trc on on-air under-diagnosed disease that worsens over time something like, you call your cardiologist and ask about attr san a lot of new dry eye patients in my office tell me about their frequent dry eyes, which may point to dry eye disease. millions of americans were estimated to have that. they've tried artificial tears again and again, but the leave his temporary xyda can provide lasting relief. >> xi drug treats the signs and symptoms of dry eye disease don't use if you're allergic to is i drunk common side effects include in rotation discomfort, or blurred vision when applied to the eye and unusual taste sensation. >> wai wait, ask your doctor about a 90 day prescription resides today to me. >> nice going though. nothing like a little confidence boost to help ease you back into the dating scene. that includes having a smile. you feel good about fortunately, aspen dental specializes in dentures and implants made just for you and with flexible financing, you don't need to sacrifice quality work for price that fits your budget at $0 down plus 0% interest if paid he didn't fall and 18 months helping our patients, but their best mile for its one more way has been dental is in your corner it's terms day off. but neutro gina ultra hsi or sunscreen, is still on the clock. >> vital sun protection goes six layers deep, blocking 97% of burning uv rays. it's light, but it's working hard hello, liked me neutro gina ultras year sunscreen, sarlin business is never easy. the star and eight months pregnant, that's a different story with a choice inke cart, we got up and running in no time earn unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase. but the taste ink business, unlimited car from chase for visitors lactate is 100% real melt just without the lactose delicious 2, just ask my old friend kevin, now than like enjoying the coal one while watching the game who's willing no idea. >> real milk reel, delicious and don't? 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>> well, jim reid hoffman is just done by the price tag on trump's social media company and reid hoffman knows a thing or two about social media, right? he made a fortune co-founding linkedin and then selling it to microsoft. now, trump media shares, they did collapse after trump was convicted here in new york in late may, but they're bouncing back big time. and this is a company that is valued at six billion despite the fact that it generates very little revenue. >> and it's still very tiny player in social media. >> and so that's why reid hoffman told me that the price tag on trump media is quote, absurdly out of the realm, home of normal business. now, i should note that reid hoffman is no fan of donald trump. he has blasted business leaders who support trump he has donated to democrats and 2 anti-trump candidates, but hoffman is hardly the only one dumbfounded by these numbers around trump media experts have come period it to a meme stock that trades on hype and momentum, not fundamentals. professor jay ritter told me that the share price is still wildly overvalued. billionaire barry diller has called trump media a scam and said that people who buy the stock or quote, dopes now to make his point, reid hoffman said, look at how trump media is valued compared to a another social media company, meta, that's the company behind instagram and facebook.

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