they moderate watch it live thursday, 9:00 p.m. eastern here on cnn and streaming on max. news continues on cnn with wolf blitzer, the situation room property. >> now how president joe biden and former president donald trump are trying to get inside each other's heads with just three days to go before they face in their high-stakes debate right here on cnn also this hour the judge in the trump classified documents case is deciding whether impose a gag order on the former president. we're breaking down the signals. she seems to be sending about her eventual ruling plus the united states supreme court just added two more days to its calendar to release blockbuster opinions. how soon for the high court's decision on trump's immunity claim be revealed welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer urine the situation room right now, the president of united states and is predecessor are a little over 72 hours away from making history on the debate state in atlanta, we're getting new information about the candidates strategies just ahead of the extraordinary for nearly biden trump face off right here on cnn cnn's kayla tausche is standing by over at the white house. but first, let's get to see this. kristen ohms, cheese in florida near mar-a-lago, covering the trump campaign. kristin, how is trump managing expectations right now well, if you listened to any of the people around donald trump ball of they are really lowering the expectation patient for former president trump. >> they've started saying that biden is a formidable opponent. we heard doug burgum, who is farther north dakota governor, another shortlist for vp talking this weekend about how biden has been debating for a very long time that he knows how to debate. we her jd vance, earlier today saying the bar has been set too low for president joe biden. but some of this this has been set by former president donald trump himself now over the weekend, he was on the campaign trail talking about this debate. take elizabeth some of what he had to say crooked joe's gone to a log cabin to study, prepare no, he didn't do he's sleeping now, i say he'll come out all jacked up. right? all jacked should i be tougher, nasty and just say you're the worst president in history or should i be nice and calm? and let him speak? >> now of course, he's not going to have a toy is on letting president joe biden's the uk since he and his team agreed to the rules that they will be muting the mic when they are not speaking after they give those answers. now, terms of preparation, donald trump's team say they don't use the word preparation when it comes to talking to trump about the debate. however, they help have held more than a dozen of these policies session. that's with allied, but senior advisers, with people who could really potentially give some insight to the former president. this has been on every issue due from immigration to democracy, how to handle the questions on january 6 to abortion. obviously, an issue they believe is going to come up. i'm told he's going to continue these policy sessions with senior advisers when he's down here in mar-a-lago heading into that debate. but not any of that traditional stuff usually see well, if not someone sitting in for the moderators, sitting in for joe biden, which donald trump is going to show up on thursday, whether it's the one who has his measured tone or if it's the person who was completely off the rails that's what we remain remain to be seen and i don't think there's anyone who knows who's going to show up on the base age kristen holmes reported for us from near mar-a-lago, done a florida thanks very much. >> from there. i want to head over to cnn's kayla tausche. she's over at the white house right now. kayla, what are the president and his team anticipate from trump? >> well, if in the words of one biden adviser to me expect the unexpected that is the strategy on how they're anticipating and preparing for president biden to debate his gop opponent and predecessor who he's faced off with twice before. and in those two face-offs in 2020 encountered heard two very different versions of donald trump. and so they say that they're preparing for a wide variation of potential trump temperaments that you just heard. him speaking to right there. that could appear on stage on thursday evening. they're watching game tape from 2020 and prior and crafting all sorts of risk bonds is two different issues and accusations that could arise. and while there's one part of this that is reactionary, the biden campaign is also proactively talking about issues that it wants to focus on, like democracy and the dangers that it believes donald trump poses to the country. number two, trump's economic plan, which they say focuses on the wealthy and corporations. and number three women's right to choose and reproductive rights more broadly in this country, with the biden campaign using this week and the two-year anniversary of the overturning of roe to really try to connect the dots between donald trump's personnel and his politics that landmark decision two years ago, just take a look at this ad that the biden campaign released just this morning. >> i was right around 11 weeks when i had a miscarriage the pain that i was feeling was excruciating. i was turned away from two emergency rooms. that was a direct result of donald trump overturning roe v. wade that's part of a 50 million ad buy across the battleground states, just part of the biden team's effort to try to frame the agenda and set the table for this conversation, even though the unexpected is likely to happen while dana tausche reporting from the white house. thank you very much. are the big countdown continues now with our political experts at david chelyan, i'll start with you, the biden campaign wants to focus in on this extremely sensitive issue of abortion rights for women. they also want to focus you said on the issue of democracy and trump's economic plans. what does all this say to you about their strategy well, i think they're leaning into especially on the abortion rights issue, an issue that they are doing well in the polls on. >> that is an issue that is played to democratic advantage. democracy has an issue wall for this one that clearly rallies democrats on joe biden talks about it. but when you look at the polling republicans and democrats come into democracy issue from very different perspectives. and that's sort of an evenly divided issue. and you put into trump's economic proposals that joe biden no doubt wants to highlight so too i'm just donald trump. probably he wants to focus in on his proposal to cut taxes. we know that in much of the polling that is out there, americans given advantage to trump over biden as it relates to the economy? to immigration. so i'd imagine that the trump team probably wants to lean into those issues more at the debate. but what you cited there at the top clearly is how biden world sees their sort of, sort of strong suits in this debate. >> joe lockhart is with us as well, and joe, i remember when you help prepare bill clinton and john kerry for that matter, for their presidential debates. so how should biden approach all of this? it's really critically important, sensitive moment i think we have an unusual situation. we're both sides have the same strategy. donald trump is going to be donald trump, no matter what they're doing in prep, he's going to come out and i think if he's punched a couple of times and you hear the word convicted felon a few times. he's going to revert to his normal self. i think for biden, it's wet. donald trump. donald trump. because i think they are very focused in on making sure the public knows that this is a choice between two between donald trump and joe biden. they think that worship is very important. democracy very important. but i think what they want to get out of this debate is, you have a choice. look at the two of us yeah. >> alyssa farah griffin, his journey as well alyssa typically, as you know, a sitting president is the one that often has trouble defending his or her record during a debate like this. but the new biden campaign ad on abortion, for example, shows how they want to put trump on the defensive. what do you make of that i think that democrats know their strongest issue is an abortion. >> donald trump bears responsibility for robing pulled back. but what i would say is, the winner of this debate is going to be who can substantively talk about the key issues americans cared about, the economy, immigration, health care, and do it in a forward-looking manner. so it's not just about re-litigating your record, whether you're biden or trump, but presenting a vision to the undecided americans who still somehow exist out there of what your plan is and being the adult in the room, the person who doesn't lose their temper, who doesn't get rattled. and there's so many variables here. the know audience of this, the fact that it's really just going to be a room with the moderators and the candidate that's there's a world in which you get disciplined. donald trump for 90 minutes. biden needs to be ready for that. and to joe's point work in those diggs, call them a convicted felon tried to get a rise out of him, tried to make him show that side of him, but it's really unpredictable where this goes. but the one thing that candidate should be prepared on is a forward looking for your ahead can unpredictable. the keyword right now. sure. michael singleton, how does trump navigate these sensitive issues for example, abortion and democracy? >> hello wolf, i think the former president needs to make clear that abortion is an issue that state should decide and voters in those states should be able to vote on the issue. and what we have found is when voters are given a choice, whether many in the evangelical wing of the party like it or not, an overwhelming majority of voters, including many republican voters, are voting to protect reproductive rights. and i think many evangelicals who may not like that position for the former president will understand the position because there are principally concerned with 11 success, i think for the former president is going to be fundamentally important war for him to showcase his ability to be a statesman and his tone will matter to a lot of those independent as swing vote voters people are very concerned about the economy. they're very concerned about immigration. i think president biden's going to have a very difficult time wolf trying to convince the american people that he can somehow change the clock on what they have seen over the last four years, which the vast majority of sandi do not like let me go back to david. david, you saw that new cbs yougov poll, which asked likely voters about the major factors in this upcoming debate and look at this, the economy and inflation top of the list, while abortion was cited by just over half of voters, given this, why is president biden? his campaign. why are they choosing to play such a heavy focus on this abortion issue well, because it plays to their strengths, because democrats have seen success at the ballot box on this issue. >> and obviously in that poll, it's not ranking as high as the economy let me and inflation which is clearly v top of mind issue for voters. but the abortion rights issue is one that unifies the democratic base, which is also part of joe biden's mission here, i agree with joe. i think one of the reasons that the biden campaign was eager to have this general election debates earlier than any previous general election debate was to get that side-by-side contrast with trump on the stage out before american voters. now to try to shake them by their lapels and say the election is happening. and this is your choice. >> i will say part of the trump campaign strategy in my understanding from talking to people in trump world about sort of saying will debate you anywhere for anytime any place. >> and accepting this debate invitation was also because they think that side-by-side contrast on the stage benefits their candidate as well alyssa. >> alyssa, a trump is signaling. he could be in his words either quote, tough and nasty, or quote nice and calm during the upcoming debate, what are you expecting from him? >> we've seen both versions of them. we saw they'll first debate last time where he shouted out a domestic terrorism terrorism organization, the proud boys the second debate he was more substantive, he was more nuance. he i have seen him do it. he is capable of getting through 90 minutes and talking about a vision, talking about policy. but this is where joe biden needs to be working on strategy, is trying to pull the other side out of him. there's not an audience that's going to make them want to be bombastic. so it's going to be really discussing issues, you know, the moderators are going to ask about january 6, you know, they're going to ask about criticizing our instance the tuition's and that's where i think he's most likely to slip into that sort of rage and retribution side of himself. but no one should sleep on the fact that there's a world in which donald trump gets through this very substantively with no major missteps joe locker, what do you think well, i think it's going to be very hard for donald trump. >> i think it was just right with the lack of an audience maybe what gets him through this. but i think the biden campaign and president biden are going to be looking for ways to go after him, whether it's convicted i on january 6, and to get arise because what they really want out of this is to show donald trump the way he is out on the campaign trail as someone who's out of control and then his has got a temper whether maybe he can get through it. i don't think his track record shows that he can to all of you. >> thank you very, very much coming up new tests of the judge in the trump classified documents case as she considers restrictions on who the former president and can attack in public. we have new information debate like in america, as biden and trump meet and only cnn has complete coverage unrivaled access, and exclusive pre and post of beat analysis follows cnn for every countless moment, followed debate night in america, thursday at 7:00 p.m. your record label is taking off. but so is your sound engineer. >> you need to hire a new indeed. >> indeed, you do. >> indeed instant match, instantly delivers while living candidates matching your job description visited deep.com slash higher at fisher investments, we may look like other many managers, but were different. >> you can't be that different. >> we are we have a team of specialists, not only in investing, but also in financial and estate planning and more your clients rely on you for all that? 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