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>> should i be tough and nasty? or should i be should i be she said, should i be tough and nasty and just say you're the worst president in history or should i be nice and calm? and let him speak? >> be tough i want to begin with shane gold mocker, national political reporter for the new york times. shane, you wrote that a notable misstep of physical stumble, a mental lapse, or a barrage of two personal insults could reverberate for months because of the unusually long period until they meet again for the second debate in september. so i mean, you're absolutely right. there's a lot riding on this yeah. >> i think that the length of time because this is the earliest debate in history, does really add to the stakes, right? these two men will not debate again until september so you're going to leave that taste in the mouth of voters who watched for a really long time and, you know, you hear trump's sort of joking about it before his crowd. it's actually pretty important that the rules here are different, that there will not in fact be a crowded, there's debate, and that's something that trump has historically fed upon, right? he gets feedback in real time. his crowds, he is taking instructor oxygen from his supporters, even if it's a joke at that rally. but this is going to be a much more sterile environment. it's going to be the two of them and the two moderators in a television studio. and yes, for both men, because of this length, there's going to have a really high-stakes impact for a long time. >> yeah. i mean, what do you make of trump? we were just playing that clip a few moments ago, asking his audience which donald trump should show up at the debate, and how concerned are as handlers that it will be the former and not the latter. >> i don't think it's just his handlers. i think trump in private, his said the first debate he had with joe biden in 2020, that he was over aggressive in the reviews were pretty bad of his performance and he has taken that to heart. so i don't expect the same level of interruption that he hadn't 2020 that said the dislike between these two men is palpable. >> joe biden does not like and does not respect donald trump when he was first elected as president, he started referring to him as the former guy, right hidden even want to say his name to give him validation. >> and obviously we hear from trump on a daily basis, his dislike of joe biden. and so how that animosity plays it out, if they try to hold it at the beginning, doesn't spill out over the course of 90 minutes where they're so close to each other and listening to the other person say things they just so strongly disagree with the polling shows that this rate, the race is super tight and that biden has made up a little bit of ground since donald trump's conviction up in new york, how much is this debate really going to matter when it comes to those remaining independence, those undecided that are out there so they're the debate is going to matter because it's going to be so long before they meet again. >> the flip side of that is this is just unusually early. you have months to go before the campaign in typically, things that happened in june, they're not what end up mattering most in november but for both candidates, this is a chance to sort of focus voters on what they want them to think about. and for joe biden, who had pushed for this debate and who had pushed for this earlier debate. in particular, he wants voters and undecided voters to tune into what the realities of a second trump would be. and he is saying this was not going to be like the first term you might have some fond memories so the economy during trump's first term in office, a second trump term would be more radical, would be focused on retribution. and for trump, he wants to make the case that what you see right now under joe biden, and this is what polls show voters are unhappy. they're unhappy with the level of inflation, are unhappy with the economy. they're unhappy with american entanglements with bohr's abroad and his argument is you like things better under me and biden is going to say you won't like them better under him in the future yeah. >> and you were just saying a few moments ago and let's talk about that a little bit. how much joe biden really wanted this early debate? i mean, that's kind of driving this, why it's so early in the calendar yeah. >> they put out a letter basically saying they would like to debate twice and make it as early as possible and trump accepted almost immediately and look for the biden team. they thought this is a when they got two debates instead of the traditional three trump hit his operation. we're so quick to jump to this. they ended up accepting just these two debates. and they've asked for more and the biden team said, no, this is what we offered and you've accepted and so you're not going to get more than that. but the biden campaign, one of the arguments they've made really since last year before trump was even officially the nominee, was once voters clue in to the realities of the choice, that there is not, in fact, an alternative to joe biden. and there will not be at an alternative to donald trump, that voters are going to begin to look at this as a choice between two candidates and they will pick joe biden, they will be afraid of the future under donald trump and polls show that a lot of voters and some of the most important voters for democrats, those less engaged constituencies that will vote democrat historically, right now, while their less engaged you're inclined to not vote for biden. they're inclined did not vote at all and some of them might even vote for trump and so they wanted this earlier debate in order for voters to tune in earlier. so they have more time to sell them, both their message and advertising in the coming months to say, this is the choice, it's biden versus trump. and you have to pick one of those two yeah. >> i mean, it's been said that one of the things that they fear the most inside biden world is the sofa that people will just stay home and not vote and not get energized. and president wants to change that on thursday. shane. great, great to talk to you. thanks a lot. really appreciate it. >> thank you ahead of cnn's historic presidential debate, donald trump is pushing baseless and bizarre conspiracy theories about his opponent. >> remarkably, those include an absurd accusation that president biden will be on some kind of drugs during the showdown. let's listen right now, crooked joe's gone to a log cabin to study, prepare. >> no, he didn't do he's sleeping now because they want to get him good and strong so a little before debate time, he gets a shot. >> the and that's they wanted to strengthen them up. he'll come out okay. i say he'll come out all jacked up. right. all jacked let's discuss with cnn political commentator. >> sure. michael singleton and jamal simmons i'm sure mall, let's just start with you what did you think when you heard that over the weekend? >> there was a story recently about donald trump's relationship with don king. and this just reminds me of that kind of pre-fight height. the us to get back in the old days of boxing so i don't think he means anything. the president, president trump, president biden needs to go do it. he's got to do, he's got to go back and prepare. i hope they're doing preps at the 9:00 hour, 90 minutes at a clip. so get him in game shapes, so he's ready to go the president's got a couple of things in needs to work on. first of all, highlighting the contrast. >> this is about the judgment of the judgment of the two. >> candidates and one of the things we hire a president for is to make sure that they can handle a crisis. and we feel tested donald trump during the worst crisis the country is based in 100 years and he failed, he failed miserably. so i think the president highlighting that choice and then talking about what he wants to do, talking about three issues, not ten because three big policies that he cares about, not ten. and then i'd also say, you know, sometimes the president hash resting old face. lisa smile a little bit so that he can shake that off problem with down on trump because he's got resting convict base and he can't shake that off with a smile and sure, michael i mean, this jacked up business shot in the asieh business. i mean, you know, i i'm struggling here to understand what's going on. it sounds a lot like i was saying in the last hour count reminds me of some of the birther stuff people could laugh it off and say its job, but then all the surrogates are saying the same thing. so they must be handing around talking boards and it says to me a little bit that maybe this strategy of talking about joe biden drifting off and wandering around and so on. was not good strategy heading into a debate. i mean, like, now they've switched from sleepy joe to jacked up joe. >> i mean, i don't want to lower expectations for the president. >> we saw the state of the union address. president did a pretty good job and a lot of the messaging coming out of republican circles were that the president was not going to do a good job. he exceeded expectations the former president cited in a recent interview, a podcast interview a week ago president or vice president binds debate against paul ryan and how well, then >> those are the two biggest issues that i think most americans are going to be watching this debate thursday night, looking for answers and solutions from both men on. yeah. >> jamal, i trump surrogates. we're on the sunday talk shows. obviously, you're giving him some pretty remarkably similar device advice i should say, here's christy gnome this out autocratic governor. let's listen to what she had to say. >> it it'll be a great opportunity for president trump to talk about his policies and how his policies when he served as president of this country, were good for every single family that lived here. >> should be avoid those insults on the debate stage. >> i don't think that he has to talk about get personal it in this debate at all because he's going to have so many good things to talk about in contrast with joe biden's policies. so that's really what i think president trump is planning on focusing on jamal. >> you expect a form of precedents are focused on policy i think they're going to try it because it maddens me. you see me wiping my brow maddens me because what they're trying to do is say to us, but nothing matters about what happened during 2020, during covid, right? >> that's like saying, i live in a great neighborhood except for the time they broke at my house and stole everything helped me hostage. right. other than that, if we forget about that, then it was a great as a great safe neighborhood. so listen, the reality of, the trump presidency is four years ago, he knew covid was going to be a problem and didn't tell us because of politics. he didn't have briefings of the public with three months without the politics, he slowed down some of the regulations that we needed to get this done because of politics the comes to making the choice where whether or not the american people should come first or his own personal politics, he chooses himself every time. and i think those are the policies that we'd have to stay focused on. and then he got rid of abortion and then he got convicted at 34 counts. this is not somebody who's would be sitting in the white house making decisions for my family or for yours? >> and sure. mica, go ahead i was going to say everything. >> i just heard from my dear brother jamal was all about the past. i did not hear anything about a future from president biden because reality is i don't think president biden has a very sound argument to make to the american people may as consumer price index showcase it's that prices are rising higher than have ever risen in generations. gems 68 a whopping 68% of americans believed that the condition of the economic, of the economy of this country is not doing great 54% trust donald trump more than president biden to handle the economy because gas is going up, electricity is going up food is going up. >> they're just a patient has been ticking. it has been ticking down. the prices are still rising, jim, and just to mention the ways in february, february, why do you manage them all in february of this year? >> okay, great. when treasury attempted to sell treasury notes, which is how we pay for a lot of this ridiculous debt we have in this country. >> we had a difficult time trying to find buyers of those notes. now for the general public, they may not understand what that means, but in order to continue ran up the gym more than buying them. but the debt is still increasing under the president administrative president's administration, and he's not doing a good job tackling that. and the american people are filling it, which is why the data indicates they don't trust his ability to continue to move the country forward in the right direction on the economic front jamal at your way in which no code just for the record crime is going down. jobs are going up. inflation is going down, wages are going up. wages are rising higher than in place. sure. we need to get prices down, but let's not sort of wipe away the fact that the biden the economy is one that is much stronger than the one he inherited when donald trump really screwed up on covid. >> crime is going down. i agree with jamaal. i'm not going to deny facts here, but the reality is, despite that wages are increasing slightly, they are not increasing enough to supersede what inflationary rates are. and that's why most americans materially do not feel that they're economically better. that's just a reality all right. >> wages are going up 4.1%. flat prices are going up three plus percent surpassed inflation though that's why most americans don't fill it. >> the data speaks for itself the data does speak for itself. 4.1% wage growth and three three-point, whatever it is, 3.3% price growth. wages are going up faster than prices. >> and if joe biden makes that argument thursday night that is not been in touch with what most americans say they are all right guys. well, i suspect that's gonna come up on thursday night, will be listening and sure. michael and jamaal thank you very much. we're just three days away from the first presidential debate of the year hosted by cnn. don't mess president joe biden for president down from going head-to-head on thursday, june 20, 27th at 9:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn just in a cnn, the supreme court has just agree to hear a case that challenges one states transgender hair band for miners will discuss the nationwide implications coming up and today marks exactly two years since the supreme court made a critical ruling overturning roe versus wade. and to mark the occasion using the biden campaign is hosting 50 events to underscore the impact that ruling has had on abortion rights. they will the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher. the president and the former president, one stage two, very different visions for america's future that cnn presidential debates thursday net it now live on cnn and streaming on max nice to meet yet, my name is david. >> i've been a pharmacist for 44 years when i have customers come in and ask for something for memory, i recommend provision. number one because it's safe and effective. does not require a prescription. and i've been taken quite awhile myself and i know it works and i love it when the customers come back in and tell me david, that really works so good for me, makes my day provision at stores everywhere without a prescription okay. >> we got orders coming in, starting a business is never easy, but starting at eight months pregnant, that's a different story. i couldn't slow down. we were starting a business from the ground up people were showing up, left knee, right. and so did our business needs the chase e car and made it easy when you go for something big like this, your kids eat it and they believe they can do the same earn a limit, 1.5% cash back on every purchase. but the chase ink business unlimited card from chase for business make more of what's yours was structured settlement hey it's your money user when you need it. >> if you've been paying attention, it's easy to see prices are going up on just about everything. that's why you need to do your wallet a favor and call khartiia. now one called carshow laci into today he's low price. so you can george peace of mind, knowing that you're not only protected from mechanical breakdowns, but also from those rising rate. if we're driving an out of warranty vehicle, car shield offers plans that cover up to 6,000 parts and systems in your car truck, or suv? 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