prime minister thatcher now holds gordy of skis fate in her hands secret and spies and nuclear game. the finale airs tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern and pacific thanks everyone for joining me today. >> i'm alison camp radha, and cnn newsroom continues with omar jimenez right now welcome everyone. >> you're in the cnn newsroom. i'm omar jimenez and walk washington. we are counting down to cnn's presidential debate. now, just for our four days away, sorry, the four there, that's a real countdown going on. it's the first first major showdown between incumbent president joe biden and former president donald trump since 2020. and the earliest general election debate and u.s. history. now the biden campaign says this will be the first time a large portion of voters tune in to witness the stark choice between the two men and hopes to show the president as the only candidate. get it working for the american people while painting trump as a convicted felon, which he is at this point who is fighting for himself. tonight. we're learning new details tell us about how the biden campaign hopes to maximize on this major showdown with trump, cnn, senior white house reporter kevin lived tack joins me now all right, kevin. so you'd i've been talking this week in the president's been at camp david preparing for this debate. house, his campaign feeling, what is their strategy? >> i do think you get a sense of just how high the stakes are for the debate. >> at least on the biden campaign's viewpoint, and that is why president biden is spending so much time at camp david almost a week preparing for this debate. >> and we did get a glimpse. they put out a memo this morning. we got kind of a glimpse of their strategy in the days leading up to it. they really want to build up some enthusiasm among their supporters for this debate. so they're going to have debate night watch parties, 300 of them 1,600 events and battleground states. they're going to bring an influencer digital creators to try and build up energy around biden's appearance at this debate. and one of the things i think what was clear from this memo are the topics that they really want president biden to hit on. and there are three of them specifically, what is abortion? and obviously this has been a galvanizing issue for democrats for so long. they want to talk about president trump's record and appointing those three supreme court justices that eventually led to the overturning of roe versus wade. and certainly they think that's going to be a powerful moment for president biden. they want to talk about what they view as the threats to democracy that trump poses. and the threats to political violence. this has been a theme that has really been underpinning the entire biden campaign. and that's certainly something that is going to talk about on the debate stage. and the last is the economy that's the number one issue for so many voters. it's an issue that president biden is somewhat weak on. there is a lot of dissatisfaction around the economy in a way he wants to flip the script and make the point that in his view, the economic plans that trump is embracing would only benefit the rich. >> so you do see tvs kind of three bullet points that certainly the campaign wants to talk about. and certainly president biden is going to want to talk about on the debate stage. and you can bet that out there at camp david, as he surrounded by quite a large group of advisors policy advisers political advisers, communication folks that they're going to start drilling away on these issues. because if there's one thing that president biden wants to do, it's show that he's with it, that he's got this punching this to him and he's going to want to really nail down on these specific issues during his debate. >> you can see on your screen some of the folks who are width president biden at camp david including chiefs of staff, former chief of staff and beyond on the policy front, as well as as kevin was talking about, you mentioned abortion and sort of tying the supreme court justices to the overturning of roe v. wade. obviously, we're coming up on the anniversary of that two-year anniversary of that tomorrow we saw how much that lit a fire under many democratic voters. do we have a sense of what the biden campaign has planned to mark that anniversary. >> yeah. they are viewing this as a but all moment they've got 50 different events that in fact that they've planned around it. it's already started joe biden, the first lady was in pennsylvania today talking about this, the vice president is going to be an arizona. she'll be in maryland sir. all issues that i think that the biden campaign very much wants to talk about. this has been so galvanizing for democrats in the two years since roe versus wade was overturned. >> and what you've seen them doing just in the last couple of months is very much trying to lay this at the feet of donald trump. >> and he has various instance has taken credit for the overturning of roe versus wade threw the supreme court justices. what he's been talking about lately is bringing it back to the states, putting the issue of abortion back into state capitals. but i think for the biden folks, they want to make the point that this has allowed states to put in very restrictive abortion laws that make it very difficult for women to receive care that they say they need. and so this is going to be something that they're talking about a lot. >> yeah, kevin love attack really appreciate the reporting as always as the biden campaign goes all in on debate on debate prep, trump is taking a less conventional approach for now, choosing instead to hit the campaign trail and ties a potential running mate, cnn, steve contorno has more details on the possible republican ticket. >> well, more we have learned that trump's vp search has centered around three front one or senator jd vance of ohio, senator marco rubio of florida, and north dakota governor doug burgum, trump yesterday said he's made that decision, but he's not letting that person know yet, nor the public side of your vice president in my mind, yeah. did they know now nobody knows what do you i guess bp trump's remarks came during a stop for affiliate cheesesteaks submit a full day of campaigning by the former president. >> he had certainly he enjoyed juxtaposing his approach to the final saturday before the debate versus joe biden's more studious approach. listen to what he told the philly rally later that evening. >> right now, crooked joe's gone to a log cabin to study, prepare no, he didn't. he's sleeping now because they want to get them good and strong. so a little before debate time, he gets a shot. i say he'll come out all jacked up. right? all jacked. >> trump went on to criticize biden over crime immigration, inflation really sharpening those attacks heading into his debate next week with joe biden, where we expect the fireworks to really fly. omar. >> all right. see if ventura. thanks so much for joining me now cnn senior political commentator and former republican congressman of illinois, adam kinzinger thanks for being here at first. i want to get your reaction on trump's potential vp picks centers. marco rubio, jd vance dakota governor doug burgum. i mean, do any of those three add anything substantial to a trump ticket i mean, look, i don't think the vice president very often makes much of a difference in this case, look, they each are kinda unique. >> i think the safe pick for donald trump would be doug burgum because he's kind of unknown. he sees pretty vanilla. marco rubio would be probably who he picks if he wanted to add a little bit of national security credential because obviously rubio pays attention to that stuff a lot. but j.d. vance, if he wants to go more populous, so i don't think any of these would be a bad pick for him, but i think it's all gonna be about donald trump, but i don't think the vice president contender is going to make any difference in this election. >> and you can see some of the folks on your screen who had been in contention up to this point and he says he's made a decision but he hadn't told anyone yet, so we'll see obviously, you talked about it's all going to be about trump on that front. we're going to see that play out when he goes up against president biden this week in the debate and i want to talk about their different approaches here, because look, we just heard from kevin lived take a little bit earlier, president biden's at camp david with close advisers going through a lot of different policy i'll see issues as we understand that trump on the campaign trail holding more informal meetings with some of those vp contenders and otherwise, as we understand, he will not be holding any mock debates with his campaign team like it did in 2020, we will see though for someone like trump is less preparation, a good thing for him, or how do you see that playing out here i think with drama preparation doesn't make much of a difference because we know his style. >> he's just gonna go there. he's going to free is going to let's throw stuff around. he's going to just make accusations. each of these men probably have just simply different ways. i remember when i always debated in congress, i didn't like to do a lot of preparing because i didn't want to sound over prepared. but i also think it shows just the difference between how these two men are running a campaign. joe biden very serious issues matter he wants to talk about issues and how they affect the american people. donald trump is all about populism. he's all about just trying to rile the crowds up. and so i think they're both going to probably probably preparing how it works best for them both. but i think for both of them, the bar is very low, including the bar on expectations. so they just have to exceed that low bar and i think they'll do just fine. >> and look within the rules of this debate. there are also other dynamics to, because obviously canada's mites will be muted once her time is up while the other candidate responds to a question. i mean, look, it's probably not going to stop them from muttering or verbally reacting thing to one another when it's happening but i'm curious. did you think how that is going how do you think that is going to impact the substance of what we hear? and do you actually think it's going to stop someone like trump who's known for interrupting during debates from doing so in a repetitive manner. >> yeah. i mean, look, i'm actually intrigued that how this works out. i think honestly there's a little more risk for joe biden and i only say that because donald trump, when he over talks and he's overbearing, that actually usually affects him worse if you remember, the debates from 2020. but we probably will get get more substance out of both these folks now because we'll have they'll have very limited time. but that'll be the interesting thing is if donald trump then tries to over talk without a mic, i mean, you think about it, all you're going to hear is just some crazy guy in the background yelling something and it's not going to have that mic to overpower joe biden. so i really it could go either for way, but i in a way like this dynamic because for the american people, i think it allows us to get a little less focused on the drama. maybe, who knows it's a dramatic election and a little more focused on ideas and principles very optimistic of you to say that i went on to another topic real quick before you go. >> now, look this past week, russian president vladimir putin paid a visit to kim jong own un, north korea where he threatened to arm north korea with weapons if the west continues to supply ukraine with munitions, i know you're on real your wrong with bill maher this past friday and you said that that visit actually shows putin is desperate what do you mean by that? >> and do you think that latest push from the us to help ukraine fight off russian troops is working i do think it's working. look the front lines have stabilized in ukraine. ukraine has to get more people and that's what they're in the process of dealing with now because they just don't have as big of a population as russia. and they actually care about the lives of their people. unlike russia, what this shows you think about it, north korea is a pariah state i'm going to russia. russia was involved in some of these sanctions to keep them from getting nuclear weapons but vladimir putin has been forced to go to north korea begging for artillery shells because he's extending rounds much faster than he's creating them. what's also happening on the counter to that south korea now is considering opening up their vast amount of munitions of 155 artillery shells, which by the way, are much more reliable than north korea's and are much more accurate than north korea is. a lot of north korea's munitions are exploding in the barrel and actually killing the artillery crew when you see dictators driven into each other's arms, that's not a sign of weakness from america. that's a sign of strength from america because it's forced these really bad people to have to rely on each other because they can't go anywhere else. >> all right adam kinzinger. >> thanks for being here. thanks for your time. really appreciate and you can watch the cnn presidential debate, right here. it's going to be live thursday at 9:00 p.m. eastern and streaming on max can't wait all right we're also following a lot of news going on, including breaking news out of russia. authorities say they are starting a terror investigation into what they call coordinated attacks by militants with automatic weapons in the south of russia. now a priest was killed inside a church and a synagogue is on fire after gunmen attacked according to police separately, officials say gunmen fired on a police traffic posts in a synagogue. there was also targeted. this is some of the videos that we've been getting in to this point, at least nine people have been killed and 25 i've injured so far in the attack, several of them police officers, this according to an islamic organization in dagestan. now cnn's clarissa bachelor is tracking the latest from london. clarity what more or police able to confirm at this point yeah. this is still we think elements of it, at least the ongoing even though it is late in the evening now in dagestan it's been a pretty major police operation. what we know is that this is being two cities. my hajj color and they're bent there about 80 miles apart along the caspian sea coastline in dagestan, it seems that religious sites where the main target, when are hearing from the russian jewish congress that there were two synagogues targeted, one in each city also a church and their event and we believe another church, at least one church in my hyperscaler because we heard by a russian state media citing the dog is tiny interior ministry of a shootout at a church in that city in which 19 people were trying to take shelter. they are now according state media, safe, but look, the death toll is up to nine of those seven or law enforcement officers. we believe the other 21 is a priest two, according to the monitoring monitoring commission in dagestan had his throat slit in the church, and then events are some gruesome details and managing that. and another church purity god. but as i say, this is still ongoing. we're hearing also have a number of militants who have been killed as part of the operation. we have reached out to the kremlin in no response as of yet, but we know that this will not be welcome news to president food in very much sort of distracted and overtaken by his war on ukraine which means that stability at home is even more prized at the moment. >> all right, clear, sebastian. >> appreciate the reporting. thank you still ahead, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is criticizing the biden administration for 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