the source. >> tonight's sounding the alarm, both jack smith and alvin bragg pleading with judges to limit what donald trump can say citing concerns over threats that are putting lives in danger. the supreme court upholding a gun control law for the first time since the justices expanded gun rights two years ago, there was it's also a notable absence as we await blockbuster rulings and what donald trump said about immigration, a head snapping veins that has not the left, but some on the far right, unhappy tonight, i'm pamela brown and for kaitlan collins and this is the source tonight, not one but two processes the kudos sounding alarms about the danger abdominal trump's words, warnings at the local and state levels that if trump is free to say what he wants, people's lives will be at risk. >> it's a claim that's actually been well-documented up and down. the judicial system in the words of a dcf appeals court, a quote, predictable torrent of threats of retribution and violence erupts when trump goes after anyone connected to a case against him or take the judge and his civil fraud case, who was quote inundated with hundreds of her rasing and threatening phone calls, voicemails, emails, letters, and packages, even the judge and has federal election subversion case found, quote, such statements pose a significant and immediate risk a risk that's no longer theoretical, there was a texas woman that's now facing charges for telling that very judge quote, you are in our sites. we want to kill you now as for alvin bragg's office, they brought receipts to back up their claims 61 that is actually the number of threats against bragg himself, his office bombarded by nearly 500 threads overall, justin's april left to compile those threats is the nypd police officers trump disk ghraieb like this it was a beautiful thing to watch new york's finest. >> they did a great job. new york's finest but that respect trump claims to have for law enforcement, as you heard, there, it's undermined by the facts according to special counsel jack smith who pointed out in a new filing tonight, trump had previously said the fbi wanted to kill him and the result of such rhetoric was an attempted attack on an fbi office by a trump supporter and as recently as last week, one threat from a trump supporter was quote, if trump does not win the election, fbi agents will be hunted down and slaughtered in their own homes. >> while trump himself argues, he should be able to post about anything lies about federal officers. his reason and i'm quoting here, the first presidential debate approaches at the end of this month that would be the one right here on cnn next week. >> jeff clearly sees lashing out as a political win for him. >> he's been raising money off of it as we know this week, he amplified his former white house strategist. and now fellow convicted criminal, steve bannon's vowel to quote get former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe, who was now an analyst for cnn. as bannon faces having to report to prison and just a few days from now here's what he's been warning let me tell the people that have done that. the president trump, whether you're in the federal government or while you're down in the state of georgia, or you're in arizona, or you here in michigan we are going to go and we're going to get every single receipt into the fullest extension of the law you are going to be investigated, prosecuted, and incarcerated. ladies and gentlemen, it's very simple victory or death well, our sources tonight, our former federal prosecutor can woo cnn legal analysts, carrie cordero, and political scientists barbara walter author of house of a worst start, and how to stop them. all right. thank you all for being here. let's dive right into it. carry. i want to start with you prosecutors present manhattan that say, hey, they're fine with trump, been able to attack witnesses like michael cohen, stormy daniel's. i was just reading through jack smith's filing tonight. he's making it very clear. look, drunk, can go after me and he wanted top official, the justice department that biden administration not these law enforcement officials, right tell us why these distinctions are so important. >> well, so i think from the perspective of a jack smith who is the special counsel, but who also is operating within the justice just department under the attorney general, they have a responsibility to protect their prosecutors, to protect their law enforcement personnel in this case, the fbi agents who are under threat from statements at the former president is making with respect to the mar-a-lago case. in particular. and so it's more broad than that. there's been obviously as you die get minutes, so many different cases that the former president has said things publicly and then that is affecting the prosecutors, the law enforcement officers. and these are real three breath i mean, in jack smith's filing, he lays out an actual attack that was made, attempted to be made hio against federal law unfold horseman officers. and so this is a real threat environment i suspect as a former justice department attorney, that the number of threats are probably even more than what is being revealed publicly. and so what these law enforcement it's been leaders are seeing behind the scenes is even more serious, even more worrisome to them as individuals with responsibility to protect their there folks we've seen it online. >> what can happen that kind of rhetoric i'm going to bring in barbara for this because cnn's donie o'sullivan had this reporting right after the verdict in this case about how these online attempts by supporters of publicly identify the jurors and trump case. it started immediately after the verdict. how real is this threat against people? full who didn't ask to be part of this case, or even people who could be mistaken for being attached to the case, but aren't we now have real data showing that violent rhetoric leads to violent acts. >> and we know also that there has been a real surge in violent threats in actual violence and domestic terror. and it all stems from trump's loss in 2020. if you follow the words that are being said and the threats that are being made, you will often see the repercussions of that so the question is what do you do, right there, there's obviously the gag orders that are in place, but should law enforcement can be more public and or aggressive in dealing with these people accused of making these threats and how do you balance that with the first amendment? >> i think they do need to be more outspoken limit to how aggressive they can be. i mean, when a case rises to the top and they can make an arrest i'm confident they're taking the right level of action. would that be? there's more to be done in terms of speaking out publicly. i think the attorney general, other prosecutors and maybe smith and he's allowed to do that, can speak out and say this kind of rhetoric is it's very dangerous as affects the system. and affects people. i get why the prosecutors, the lead prosecutors say it's okay to talk about me, but not my staff. but there's a danger to allowing them to be talked about, to be disparaged as well, because it trickles down to the rest of the public. and the rest of the staff. and i think public let's statements would be appropriate to warn off people making statements like this. that doesn't mean you're being unfair or persecuting people if it's a crime, it's a crime. but i think this is a grave public threat that needs to be addressed. by them. i think that'll be a good thing to do. >> can i get really specific thing that i think could be done about it? so there's a gag orders that are being tried to be implemented in the court situation. there's for the public statements that can be made. there's one specific line of threats that's happening. an actual attacks, which is this incidence of swatting, which is when a threat is called antral, particularly occasion law enforcement then has to respond. the laws on swatting are really weak. so right now those types of cases are handled at the local level. there's no fat thorough law on it at all. and what that means is that these cases are actually not really being brought to justice because there's jurisdictional problems at the statement local level, they have trouble investigating these cases and actually being bringing the perpetrators to justice and actually prosecuting them. so there really is like one specific thing that i think could it'd be done about it, but it would require legislative action well, and going back to trump and his rhetoric and all of this, he knows how fast as statements go, right? i mean, he knows as soon as these he says something, your post something it's going to get out there, it's going to spread like wildfire and april he posted quote, when i put out a statement, it is spread all over the place fast and furious. everybody seems to get ever i have to say and quickly for those who don't follow every post on social media. barbara truth, social, i should say. what's the impact of trump's social media rampages that target certain people well, it trump's doing it for a very specific reason. he wants to stay at a jail. he wants to get in the white house. and this is classic mob style bullying tactics. he's trying to intimidate jurors, intimidate judges, intimidate anybody who might have an influence on what the repercussions of this past trial are going to be. >> and he wants to play towards his base his biggest supporters and convinced them that if he loses in november, that this will be the second consecutive election that he will have loss he's priming them, timing them to be angry to feel like a grave injustice has been done to him. >> and for some of them, he's priming them to come out and fight to prevent him from losing yet again when you say he's priming them to come out and fight, what do you mean specifically what what what exactly so i think we'll see something similar to what we saw after the november 2020 election when he started talking about, we need to take our country back come on january very 46. >> it's going to be it's going to be wild and he's kind of doing the same thing. he sort of setting the doubt that there's no way he can possibly win. there's no way he could possibly lose. so that if she does lose, people will go feel that the election is illegitimate, that there was fraud that, that his supporters need to fight back to correct what what they will truly believe was wasn't injustice. >> and we know so many of them actually believe every word trump says, right? >> carrying we have seen the steady climb and numbers of the serious threats against federal judges for example how has the reality change the legal system since trump took office? and how do you see that reality playing out if trump wins? again in november? >> well, i think the current environment in the legal system is this environment of increased threats to court personnel, the prosecutors, to judges, to everybody involved often that system, it has, obviously it's a practical matter required increased security for all of these different types of personnel. so when you talk about the judiciary, that's federal marshals service that has to increase their their protection and if he continues to win, then we're going back to one of the club's. did you played earlier which was of steve bannon saying that there also will be the legal system potentially in a future trump administration brought against individuals. so sort of using prosecutorial power for four political purposes as payback. that's even a separate threat from the physical safety threats that we're encountering now, i tend to think that one of the reasons the former president has continued to be able to make these types of statements is because he was not charged with incitement as it related to january 6, the special counsel had to make decisions about what the charge and he chose conspiracy to defraud the united states related charges. and then he chose obstruction charges which we're waiting for that one greene court case. we've talked a lot about immunity. be able waiting for the obstruction case to come down to see if those cases hold on the obstruction piece that the former president's been charged with wasn't charged with incitement and as a result, he has been able to continue to walk right up this line tip toe over it. but not actually be held accountable. so double for statements that are potentially encouraging people to take other, unlike what barbara was saying, what do you think can do agree? >> i agree. and that could be remedied something could be done about that, which is to hold him accountable through these types of gag orders are ones that even more stringent. and i think the red the red herring here is really the first amendment, because no one is saying violate trump or anyone else's first amendment rights are simply saying they've got to be restrictions to protect people if a court later determines there's the first men violations. so be it but there's too much pre self-censorship going on, being too worried about the first amendment. well, we first amendment, it's not all encompassing the protections that come from it. true threats are an exception, to the first amendment protections. >> they are. and of course, it is complicated by the fact that he is a current candidate. yeah. and i think that that does clearly way on all of the judges who are looking at these gag order as it should, right? as it should. i mean, this is historic. all right. carrie cordero, shan wu, barbara walter. >> thank you so much. >> coming up on this friday night, we have some new reporting scene on the shadow campaigns trying to influence donald trump search for a running mate, including a dinner party straw poll. the night of this felony conviction today. the supreme court handed down its most significant 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the exit visa should be clipped to the to the to the diploma, the exit visa yes. let's take them in a selective basis, train them up let them roof for college football and get all that. you look at the college football stands to diversity. it's fabulous, but then it's time to go back home and make your country great again my political sources on this tonight, cnn senior political commentator and former senior adviser to president obama, david axelrod. >> and republican strategist doug hi, doug, let's start with you from the republican perspective. quite a shift in policy and rhetoric to say the least, from trump. what is his political calculation if there is one here? >> yeah, pamela, it is. and let me first apologize that i'm not wearing a carolina blue tie for you. >> you should be. yeah. i was sorry. i was at patsy's italian restaurant and mid sound, new york where cell makes the best class facilities in the world and run right over here for you. >> but look, this is for donald trump and actually the policy that he expounds in this case is one i agree with. >> and it's very interesting to watch how trump world and maga world reacts to win donald trump says something that's sort of off-script. what we see is a real mix here. steve bannon says one thing that this is terrible. you shouldn't do this a lot of the trump apical acolytes we'll do that mike lee said that this was a terrible idea a few weeks ago, he deleted that tweet earlier today. so what it tells you is there's a split in trump world, but donald trump is not a set of policy, policy prescriptions. donald trump is an attitude and what it means is everybody is going to fall in line eventually that's a fair point. we've seen that in the past, right past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior. but david, we would remind viewers how trump has talked about migrants. and just this last year there are poisoning the blood of our country that's what they've done. they poison mental institutions and 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