not necessarily it'd be a deal breaker after all, former president trump won this district by nearly 19 points in 2020, erin. >> all right. thank you very much, lucy. and thanks to all of you, anderson starts now so that on 360, breaking news on donald trump's search for a running mate in which key allies are pushing for each of those three, right there also the hearing today that's casting yet more doubt on the judge running the trump classified documents case to former federal judges are here to weigh in and questions about boeing equipment delays two passengers only instead of stranding them and ceo hair. >> well, they're stuck in orbit. >> john king here tonight in for anderson, we begin with the breaking news, namely who people close to the former president donald trump want to see on the ticket with him three names, each one being touted by a different trump faction two senators and the governor of north dakota. cnn's alayna treene has more on who they are and what's playing out behind the scenes. alaina, tell us, what are you learning? >> well luck as we inch closer to the republican national convention, john, that is the self-imposed deadline that donald trump has set for when he is gone fine to announce. >> his running mate. you have an increasing number of people jockeying to be in trump's ears pushing their preferred candidate and really, we're seeing this from every corner of donald trump's orbit, from his family too, conservative media to his former adviser is all of them pitching different people to donald trump. and so as you said, i've really been told from my conversations with trump's campaign that the list has narrowed to three people, marco rubio, jd vance, and doug burgum, and also that donald trump has actually taken on a much more serious and earnest approach to looking at this process, which is a departure from the past several months but each of these men have different people pushing them. so i'm going to break it down for you, jd vance don junior, donald trump's son has long been a close friend of jd vance's. he's been very actively lobbying his father for him to be the running mate. he also has the support of steve bannon and tucker carlson. so a lot of the far-right doug burgum has been getting the support of fox news corp mandate or excuse me, magnate rupert murdoch, he's been pushing him to different conservative high-profile allies. but also, we've really seen him gets showered with some of favorable coverage from fox news score, like with the wall street journal, the new york post, and then burger or excuse me, rubio has actually been a favorite of the donor class i sat a dinner last month immediately after donald trump's guilty verdict in his manhattan trial, donald trump was sitting with a group of a dozen or so wall street figures and took a informal straw poll asking everyone, who do you like, who do you like, and the majority of people said marco rubio. now rubio also has the support i'm told of kellyanne conway, as well as sean hannity so breaking they're a little bit with rupert murdoch, but it's interesting to really see all of these different people really having drastic differences and who they think should be really interesting list. also interestingly, different factions and sometimes the conflict, then those factions, who else, who else will the former president says he's going to make this decision at the convention, we'll see if he ways it's that long. but who else is in his ear saying mr. trump, i think this is the one and why. >> well, it's interesting because when you actually get down to it from when i talked to a lot of these donors and mainly donald trump's advisers they argue that sometimes when you are in donald trump's ear, it actually can turn them off more even though, like i said, donald trump, he loves to be honest patti, at mar-a-lago are at his club in bedminster and say, who do you like and try to feel the room for the most part, he sometimes can get turned off when people try to push certain people on him and that's why actually, many of donald trump's closest advisers and the people actually working on his campaign, people like susie wiles and chris lacivita, his campaign hey, managers, they are very wary of weighing in. they are trying to let him make the decision. and here's a quote. i just found this to kind of sum it up perfectly from someone close to trump, they said quote, susie has lasted this long because she provides information that will be helpful. and then let's trump make the decision. so the only other person i'm waiting to hear from who i actually thank good. swam is melania trump, the first lady, but wears out on that road. >> you come back i hadn't been late. >> i don't go anywhere. stay with us. let's bring into the conversation bryan lanza, he was deputy communications director on the 2016 trump campaign, also are seeing them political commentators and democratic strategists. maria cardona and jamal simmons bryan, let me talk to you first because you've been in trump led so how does this work in the sense that elleithee just with through who he's listening to. >> but does he really listened yeah. he likes to entertain them. he loves, he loves the engagement is like, what do you think? you ease the salesman so he makes you feel like you have a voice in the process. maybe there's a contribution that's going to come because you feel included but at the end of the day, the president knows who he's going to pick. he's probably known that for a number of years at this point since he's been running, he's somebody who looks downfield, watches cable television, watched the audience, and usually does good. joyce and picking the people. i talked to you. i'm not going to say he's leading one particular way, but the inside a group that i talked to in trump world, it's all about jd vance. they think he's the most articulate to talk about maga. he's the one who came from these working class roots, which is a big part of the party now where it's shifting forward. and he's somebody who who rose from this working class groups, went on to get an ivy league education and contributed back to the community. he won a swing state, ohio was a swing state when he was running. he wanted suburban neighborhoods, he wanted independence i think there's a lot of value and i think there's some concern with marco rubio i mean, this is a senator who's choked on a national stage twice. chris christie filleted amid the debate, we all saw it in 2001 16. and then he got really thirsty with the state of the union speech you can't make those mistakes on a national stage. and ruby, who's shown the propensity to make those arizona lana went through the list. brian just made the case there for jd vance comes out of mega, but if you're looking at this strategically, is that what trump needs someone who's omega echo, maybe with a younger generation, or is it where, why not a woman on the ticket, he has a problem, sometimes had a gender gap in alaska or why not? what about what happened to senator tim scott and the professor efforts to try to reach into the black community right now. >> i don't think jd vance would get him something that he doesn't already have and in fact, i think that there is a possibility i've heard from some in the trump camp, but, you know, better that jd vance might actually outshine him when it comes to maga audiences because he is so good on tv and he is very charismatic. and we all know that donald trump doesn't want what anybody out shining him. yeah, he would need somebody else, a woman latino. i don't think marco rubio would fit the bill an african american to get to the communities that he actually is lacking right now, independent women, suburban women but right now, the three that you mentioned, sir? let me do not fit that bill, but let's also remember it could be somebody who's not even on that list, though i suspect that from a vetting standpoint, they would need to have done all the paperwork. but who knows? i think you're right. it's going to be whoever he feels at that de whoever he wakes up with in terms of a whim so jbeil simmons cup meant to the conversation in this context normally we spent a lot of time on this when there's an open spot on a ticket because it is important without a doubt and you're getting into the convention. >> but then usually after the convention, the vp picks don't matter. people are voting for president. there's very little evidence in history that people are voting for vp is this perhaps the exception to the rule? because we have two older candidates for president and we know the trump campaign is going to make a big issue of vice president harris saying a vote for biden as a vote for harris, does trump's pick matter more his pick matters in the way it always matters, right? >> which is that the vice presidential pick is the first real act of a president to show us what his judgment is. here the problem with donald trump, we saw donald trump's judgment for 40 years when he was pressed other than the united states, ended my turn out so well, we we saw him in the we pick a president, particularly not just for the economy or where they stand on choice, or when these things, although people care a lot about those things. but we pick them particularly in moments of crisis. and what will the president do when there's a moment of crisis that we all have to just turn turned to him and say, or her and say, lead us, tell us what to do. and when donald trump had that field test, he failed at miserably during covid, so we don't really need to know anymore about donald trump's judgment. and i don't think any of these candidates really helped trump in terms of demographics or geography, or any of the things that like al gore or joe biden helped barack obama worth in terms of of substantive effort, but they, joe biden was able to bring for policy and institutional knowledge to the obama ticket. so we don't really have any of those help, help interesting point some other big political is i want to talk about, but brian will come back to you in the point you just made a lot of people, especially his critics, things trump is reflexive, trump conference impulsive in picking mike pence, trouble is actually strategic. >> ted cruz was trying to challenge him at the convention. other forces were trying convention. so they picked a middle of the country, christian conservative that had supported cross the republican base. and it shut that down. it was a very strategic choice. what's the strategic choice this time, you're the strategic choices to get the election focus on inflation in the economy and immigration. jd hits those points, jds working class roots can talk about how inflation has devastated the working class community, has devastated the suburban communities, has devastated suburbia. and so you're going to have, if you're looking to highlight somebody who appeals that group that republicans i've never really had in the past, it would be jd vance. i think he's for jd vance elleithee, another big piece of news today. and again, i'm often of the opinion that all fundraising stories don't matter, but but joe biden for months has had a huge advantage over donald trump. suddenly since the conviction, donald trump's sometimes defies gravity, right? bad news becomes good news. huge fundraising walk us through the numbers and what they mean yes absolutely huge. >> and honestly, i mean, you're right. i joe biden has been out raising donald trump for months now and really we're starting to see the trump campaign and his political operation begin to erase that cash advantage. so this was a second month in a row. may was the second month that around i should say that donald trump's team raised more than what joe biden brought in in may. donald trump's team brought in 141 million. that's compared to the 85 million that biden's campaign brought and 85 million is not a small number, but compared to 141 million, definitely lagging behind and tens of millions so dollars of that 141 million number was raised in the aftermath of his guilty verdict. and so it has been a huge boost and boon for donald trump's campaign. and really, i mean, we've also seen donald trump go to many of these fundraisers with wealthy donors, really focus on aggressively trying to catch up to biden's war chest. and it seems that it's paying off a week from tonight. the conversation will not be about fundraising numbers that will be about the first presidential debate, which will be right here a week from yesterday, thursday night on cnn. so jamal to you first, you're not in the studio, so you get the you get hugo first-year as you look at this debate, what do you think is the single biggest imperative for president biden oh, he clearly has to show people again why we picked him in the first place, which is that he does have the judgment to be president. >> he's somebody who's focused on what the american people need, not just a past and what he's done in the last four years with incredible what amounts of legislation. but what he wants to do next and how he's going to make the country better going forward. and then contrast that with donald trump, who again, we saw his judgement in 2020. it wasn't that great. he prolonged covid and made it worse while, while joe biden was able to get us out of that funk, we were in and covid and start the country back on a path maria, what is the biggest weakness the president needs to deal with is it concerns about the cost of living? is it questions about his age? is it something else? >> i think that the president has got to be ready and i know that they are making sure that he is for donald trump to come after him about hunter biden. >> and we know that that is something that is so personal to present senate biden. >> and i think that trump is going to do it to try to get him off his game, to get the president off his game. >> but yes, i agree that he actually has to come prepared. >> i know he has for that too, to talk about the economy, inflation numbers have actually been good recently, wages have been up and those inflationary pressures are coming down economists have said that donald trump's plans would actually explode inflation and lose jobs. so i think that's a great contrast to make especially for years ago, this economy was in a tailspin and that i think is a great contrast for president. but you see the protest vote for nikki haley and the late primaries. >> and i have it out in the road talking to a lot of these voters these are republicans who they say they have doubts about donald trump. lot of the voter form in 2016, then voted biden or third-party in 2020, their republican dna says, i'd like to vote for him again, but they've raised temperament questions. they raise january 6 questions. what is trump's weakness if you're looking at the trump coalition of what he needs to win, what does he need to do in the debate? who's talking to most? >> i think the biggest thing he used to do is talk to you all of the voters he needs to say, i have a record as president joe biden has a record as president. let's compare them month by month. >> you talked about inflation. joe biden, his own team have picked the target of inflation of 2% he failed to hit that number for 38 months. so for 38 months, the number one concern to the american people has been inflation. and joe biden has fallen short of that. gold has a goose egg. so i think when you're taught when tresind trucks talking to the public, he needs to talk about the economy. he needs a taco inflation, he needs differentation. be relatable, and his to remind people that even though joe biden had a target to bring inflation 2%, he has failed for 38 months. >> i would love for that for you guys to come and compare month to month with joe biden's economy versus donald trump's economy. those four years. oh, my god. biden would eviscerate donald trump. i would love i would love for them to debate the issue and i know that's what all the voters out there, i haven't talked to the road would like debate the issue is not get into all the personal stuff, but we shall see alayna treene atlanta, maria cardona jamal centers. >> appreciate your time tonight. thank you. up. next details on another most unusual de in the trunk classified documents case and more questions yes. about the judge's judgment also, trump's already been convicted. so why did prosecutors in new york want the former president's gag order to continue? the dangerous they cited? that's ahead on 360 cities industry-leading global payment solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries, and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food two people together, city in the world food programme empower families across the globe they say seeing is believing, but with stearns and foster, that's only part 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court case, you have nothing to do with not at the supreme court where such things are common, but as part of a regular criminal proceeding where they are not that's just part of what happened today in judge aileen cannon's courtroom, where she held a pretrial hearing in the classified documents case the question today, one of them, whether special counsel jack smith's should even be special counsel, that t2 is unusual. >> seen as having perez joins us now outside the courthouse in fort pierce, florida, evan walk us through exactly what happened in court today. >> yeah, john looking with a very odd de the fact that we're even had this hearing is unusual. there is a lot of defendants, including hunter biden, who have tried to challenge the legality of a special counsel. they've all failed in the case of hunter biden. he got rejected by judges in california and in wilmington but donald trump, he has judge aileen cannon, who decided that she wanted to hold a hearing today, and the argument by the trump lawyers was that jack smith was not appointed legally by the attorney general, merrick garland. and therefore, these charges should go away. now, the judge spent about four hours hearing not only from trump lawyers and from the special counsel but also from these third parties outside groups on the left and on the right, who wanted to weigh in on this, on this big question now, the judge ditch have some skepticism about some of the trump arguments when trump lawyer emil bove said that jack smith was essentially a shadow government. she called it ominous and push back a little bit, but she also asked the special counsel to explain whether there were any specific actions done by the special counsel that were approved by merrick garland personally, the special counsel declined to get into any specific strong now, today, evan, the first of three days of scheduled pretrial hearings on various motions made by the foreign prevalence legal team. >> what comes next? we're back in court monday, right right. >> we're back we're back here on monday and on tuesday on monday, we're going to have a hearing about a gag order, which the special counsel request against the former president, you know, he's made some very incendiary remarks about the 2022 search of mar-a-lago comments that the special counsel says are endangering the lives of some of the fbi agents who carried out that search on tuesday. the trump team is back here arguing for some of that evidence that was seized at mar-a-lago for some of that to be tossed. now, today, the judge, of course, did not rule from the bench. she almost never does and so we expect that the same thing will happen on monday and tuesday those hearings we expect to take all day john all de evan perez. >> thanks for that important reporting and perspective. let's get more perspective now and just how much of an outlier judge cannon is or isn't we're joined now by two former federal judges, johnny jones, the third, who serve as the chief judge for pennsylvania's middle district in shira scheindlin, formerly new york's southern district, also with us former federal prosecutor, at least adamson, a judge can lead to you first critics of judge cannon say she's either in over her head, two inexperienced or that because trump appointed her to the bench somehow she's in the tank for trump. do you share one of those views? is it possible she's just different? >> i don't think she's in the tank for trump. i think that's pretty extreme and there's no reason to think that however, i have i i've said before that she has does not have as much experience as many judges do. she was an assistant u.s. attorney. she mostly did appeals. i understand. she was not much of a trial lawyer and she hasn't had many criminal trials yet as a judge, i think this is still unfamiliar territory to her and she doesn't feel comfortable ruling from the bench, which most of us would have done by now and have moved this along. >> judge jones, one of the things i know jumps out to you as that she's having free trial hearings on a lot of legal questions that many a professionals, many, many, many professionals thank or rather routine. and normally the procedure is the two sides are however many sides submit their briefs. the judge looks at the law and so when you see a hearing hearing today with more hearings next week, anything changing your view, you think she's wasting time, is that the right way to put it? >> i think she is john and i would never have had an argument de for this. there was no testimony taken. it was really an opportunity for the lawyers to come in and there were some strange things about this that you don't typically see in the judging business notable was that she allowed friends of the court to come in and argue, you can let them in. you can let them intervene and then just take their briefs, let them file their briefs, and decide the case on the briefs. i have no idea why she spent three hours listening to the same reconstituted arguments apparently, that were made in other cases involving the special counsel. i just wouldn't do that and it just looks like a time sink that was absolutely unnecessary. and that seems to be a whole mark of the way that she's doing business in this case. she's judging defensively john, where i think she's afraid to make a mistake. and when you judge that way, you over-complicate things. as my former judge colleague knows the job of the judge and a complicated case like this is to unravel it, set a trial date and restore some order to it. but and she's done anything but that at least weigh in to the point the judge just made. if you're a defense attorney and your strategy and we know trump's strategy in all these cases is delay, delay, delay, delay, delay. and you have a judge, it's willing to grant the hearing on just about any motion. i assume you're going to get through tuesday and file some more rice yeah. >> i think that's right. i was federal prosecutor for her seven years, but i am a defense attorney now. and pretrial litigation is something that defense attorneys do. and we're duty bound to do that. we have to make these arguments for. our clients and advance them. now, most of the time, argument is not granted. we have the judges have just indicated judges more they rule from the bench and they they've decided these things on the papers to make the case's move along more efficiently. but yes, i think the answer is yes. if i knew a judge was going to grant a hearing and my strategy was delay for whatever reason, you better believe i would continue to add to file all of these motions and i would be thinking about the next one to file as soon as she finished his ruling on this group judge headland, she's a district court judge. the case law, including the dc circuit court of appeals, pretty deep about the authority 40 of the special counsel. but what if she agrees with the trump defense team and rules that jack smith does not have authority that there was no right to appoint him. what happens in the case technically goes away, but right. but of course it will be immediately appealed by jack smith to the 11th circuit immediately. and this time, i think if the 11th circuit get takes the view that she was way off base, i think that either jack smith will ask for her to be replaced or the court could even do it, sue a spondee, which means on their own. because three strikes and you're out, they may they may have had enough and it's say enough is enough. so there's a real risk there, but i do think thank that. i disagree that it was really wrong to have the hearing. this is a serious case. it does involve the former president and a presidential candidate, and she had lots of questions. she was well-prepared today. she had lots of questions for both sides. and there's a slight difference in this case, which is that this special prosecutor, jay back smith, has never been confirmed by congress. he is not a us attorney as the previous special counsel in the hunter biden case was so they've got a slight factual difference and they've got a slight hook to argue this is different. so the real argument here is being what kind of officer are you the primary officer or are you at the inferior officer? and if you're an inferior officers, which they're arguing, then you're supervised and you don't need to be confirmed by congress so is this is jack smith's supervised or not and it's kind of an interesting question that's why she asked it has merrick garland reviewed this indictment, did he get involved with it because if he's not supervised, then he's a primary officer and there should have been a confirmation hearing that shows weigh in on those points. i want to hear your view as well, and then also, when you're presiding judge of such a complicated case, it's never been the case. this important former president did some of the issues at hand here, but what you're aware of the outside criticism, if you were her or how would you get back on track if you will, you've maybe you think this has taken too long. maybe you think she said to proceedings, but that's show that you're thoughtful issue your rulings and then what well, i understand my colleagues point and just to speak to that for a second that's certainly a valid position to take a two hear argument. but honestly the supreme court of the united states wouldn't allow that much argument. i just don't understand why you had to set aside a whole day for arguments. there may be be some issues that you wanted to delve into, but i mean, move it along. i just don't get the point. why it was so tortuously long in terms of what you can do to get it on track to the point about filing motions and then triggering hearings and argument. the fact that matter is she can set deadlines the case she needs to do that. i don't see that she has she can have a motion cutoff date where absent exigent circumstances, she said that's it that's what happens when you as my colleague knows, when you don't set a trial date the attorneys minds are not focused. the case is going to be in drift and it's going to continue adrift check. >> one thing principal officers, what i meant, not primary. got it. got it. jones, judge shall and elise adams. so we'll continue this conversation. a lot of fascinating questions. thank you all very much. up next the manhattan da wants the former president's gag order to continue and is now laying out a flood of threats. he and his office have received since winning a conviction on 34 felony counts, a target of similar threats. andrew mccabe joins us what the biggest companies deliver is an exceptional customer experience. what makes it possible is unmatched connectivity and biji solution t-mobile for business, t-mobile connects 100,000 delta airlines employees, powers tractor supply hi stores nationwide with reliable by chief business internet and partners with pga of america on game-changing 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wrestling can be we wednesday night dynamited aid on tbs manhattan prosecutors today asked judge juan marsh on to keep an effect much of the gag order he had imposed on donald trump one reason they say dozens of threats against district attorney alvin bragg, his family and his staff during the hush money trial, and since the former president's conviction on those 34 felony counts, and this is only part we've seen this throughout the years from a larger threat picture which includes the former president and his supporters attacking the criminal justice system, attacking the court's attacking individuals and promising sometimes it campaign of revenge, retribution against trump opponents. last night, anderson right here talked about the danger it poses with someone who has sadly been on the receiving end first of then president trump and now candidate trump. the former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe have the person who aspires to the highest seat, the highest role is job in the land. >> to start picking out people like me or anyone else in targeting them for revenge, unleashing the rage of their supporters in, however, that's played out it's, it's outrageous. and it's just heartbreaking that that's where we are as a nation andrew mccabe will join us shortly first though let's get more on what alvin bragg's prosecutors are specifically asking for and why from cnn's kara scannell, qarrah to tell us more about this filing today so prosecutors are saying that most of this gag order should continue to stay in place because they say trump is already free to criticize the case, to criticize district the attorney alvin bragg, and to criticize the judge juan merchan, which trump has done throughout this trial. but they say that the relevant question is not whether the orders prevent defendant from speaking freely about this case. they never have but instead, whether there is reason to preserve the orders narrowly tailored protections on specific participants in this criminal person seating they said that it is still needed to protect the juries in this case, and also to protect the staff prosecutors, the court staff and their family members because of the number of threats that they have received that the district attorney's offices saying that is no longer needed to have a gag order on trump about the witnesses, michael cohen, stormy daniel's because they already testified in there work is done, but they do say that if donald trump does cross the line into illegality about harassment, that they could also bring criminal charges there. john to get the judge to continue, to much of the gag or they have to back it up. there's the filing detail, the type of threats we're talking about here? >> yeah, it does. i mean, it says that since april that there has been a spike in threats and that is when this trial began on april 15th, that very day, according to prosecutors, there were bomb threats at the homes of two people that are working on the case. they also said that there was a threatening post of that disclose the home address of someone also at the da's office and there was another post that put this sniper sites over images of some of the problems prosecutors working on the team. and they also said that there have been death threats against the district attorney. his family, and some members of the team, and according to the prosecution, some of these threats said, we will kill you. all. your life is done. now this decision will ultimately lie with the judge and be interesting to see if he does lift this gag order before the sentencing but prosecutors are saying they even wanted to stay in place to protect the staff through the appeal. john to the appeal, kara scannell. thank you for that important reporting joining us now to discuss andrew mccabe, he's currently are senior law enforcement analysts also with us. the retired new york city judge george grass. so andy, let me start with you so it's not a leave it all in place. it's leave it partially in place. you're heard carrot lay it out. sound reasonable it does sound reasonable. >> and i think what the da is trying to accomplish here is absolutely a laudable goal and to be clear, john donald trump creates risk and danger for people because of the rhetoric that he chooses to use and the behavior he engages in full stop. there's no doubt about that but but honestly, the da is in a tough spot here because even though what he's asking for is reasonable it is actually limited. there's a limited time horizon, there's a limited amount of restrictions on speech that you can impose upon people particularly when the original reason for doing so was to protect the criminal justice process, right? to protect a witnesses and the jurors who were involved in this trial. and then more broadly, the people in the prosecutor's office. and of course, their families who are caught up in it by virtue of the jobs that they do the process is coming to an end. it's essentially over for judge merchan when the sentencing takes place. >> so the da's kind of footing to make these arguments is shrinking by the day. >> and meanwhile, the the dam is the potential damage of the danger that donald trump creates for these people? it goes on. >> judge basso, a former president in court, is unique. have you ever seen maybe it's a mob trial, maybe it's gangs, threats of this scope and scale and specificity before this is extraordinary so i was a judge for almost 13 years and the new york city criminal courts before that, i was nypd for over 30 years. so i remember, for example, the john gati multiple john gadi prosecutions john gady didn't do the types of things that donald trump has been doing to use the so-called bully pulpit of the trial to constantly attack prosecutors families of prosecutors, judges, families of judge's court staff. and is andrew mccabe was just saying, by the way, i saw him last night with anderson cooper i think he's a great american and what he's going through no american should have to go through so here we have a judge, michigan in this scenario, where he has to maintain an orderly court process. so i certainly think and i think that bragg de a bragg made the right move when he excluded the witnesses from this gag, whether over time because their job is basically done but the but the court staff still has a job to do as we go into sentencing. the da and the da's can't the assistant district attorneys, if they're constantly worrying about their families because donald trump is not stupid with this stuff. he might not be actually articulating a threat on these individuals himself. off. but when he vociferous attacks them and blames him for wrongfully prosecuting him. and he goes after specific individuals. he knows what through truth, social, and millions of people, the as outreach to he knows exactly what's going to happen. it's predictable so i think this gag order, if i was the presiding judge, i would leave the gag order in place until the de of sentencing, which is now scheduled for january for july 11 if it were to go past sentencing with a go past july 11, i would keep the gag order in place until we did sentencing, but i do believe if i agree that the footprint is getting smaller and to think that we could keep a gag order in place through an appeal process that could go on for potentially years. i think that would be an overreach, so that's where i am on this. and why and so andrew a little more context. >> the prosecution's filing says the nypd has logged 56 actionable threats. that's the quote, actionable threats against de bragg has family as employee since early able to explain to the layman who might understand that means it's not just you're an idiot, you're a moron. but there'll be payback. what is actionable threat mean these are threats that are clear indicators of an intent to commit violence and predominantly by people who you can identify and potentially even locate. >> that's what makes them actionable if they have 50, 60 of those they've got ten times as many unacceptable threat. so harassing, emails, phone calls, letters, things like that, that just don't have enough meat on the bone to be able to take action from the law enforcement side. but john, that's the direction they need to start looking because this judge said, you can't you're not going to get this gag order forever. at some point, they need to start looking at these objections as crimes and treating them that way educated judge grass. >> so again, the conversation to be continued as the case moves forward. thank you for coming in tonight and coming up for us details on the extreme heat that has now taken hundreds of lives during the hajj pilgrimage to mecca. and why authorities fear the final death toll may climb much higher. plus the astronauts stuck in space by their boeing spacecraft that craft is acting up. the details next what is circle circle appeal to tape play circle isn't energy that gets you 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mj. walk us through this message. and why did it happen? how strong is the commitment yeah, john, we know that there was a senior israeli delegation in washington this week meeting with their american counterparts parts and then a series of meetings they discussed a whole lot of different things like hezbollah, like iran, like the ceasefire negotiations. >> and what i'm told by one senior official but in those discussions, u.s. officials assured there israeli counterparts this week that a full out war, war to break out between israel and hezbollah hello, that the u.s. is prepared to fully offer the assistance that it can, although us troops would not be on the ground in that scenario the timing of that expression of support is really interesting given that it comes on the heels of prime minister netanyahu of israel, creating some controversy by saying in a video that the u.s. was withholding support from israel, prompting a lot of back-and-forth between israeli and us officials and 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only goes so far when it's 120 degrees fahrenheit as a hamid brahim found out the hard way like many, she gave up on the way, there we thought we were about to die. we didn't even have the strength to reach the steels qizan extreme heat soaring temperatures making this year's pilgrimage exceptionally deadly video shared on social media showed bodies on the sides of roads, their faces covered. >> in some cases, they looked simply abandon most of the people they died but all side and some fainted due to the heat and so they should make such an inference that during the summer season hajj season is in the summer, they should are indirect transportation for saudi arabia says it did make some arrangements to deal with the heat deploying 1,600 soldiers along with 5,000 volunteers, installing dozens of air conditioning tents and overhead water sprinklers to cool down crowds but many are traveling on tourist visas rather than hajj specific ones don't get access to these amenities add to the 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just over two weeks ago. and the two astronauts on board the starliner which wilmore and sunny williams. >> so here we are in the front of the international space station where our spacecraft docked but even before they dock with the space station, and as they gave this tour of the starliner, they knew the trip wasn't going to be exactly routine. >> let's go forward into starliner where there was a little bit of akre the other day, the action involved spacecraft issues specifically helium leaks and thruster problems, have to lay the two two knots return to earth. >> bottom line is the helium leaks are about pretty small. nasa save as they can tolerate about 100 times. what's currently leaking had five thrusters fail on the way to the station four of them have been reactivated. one remains disabled. shouldn't keep them from coming home safely, but it has kept them from returning is scheduled to return date has not been adjusted twice. the goal is for astronauts williams and wilmore to return home on june 26, staying in space almost an extra two weeks as the problems continued to be worked on nasa declaring week we're taking a little bit of extra time to work through what we've seen and make sure we have all the plans in place. to bring the crew home in an a nominal situation for the admission. so we're just taking a little more extra time to review all the data and also learn as much as we can while we have the service module in orbit despite the problems, the atmosphere on board with all the space station astronauts has been nothing less than jovial. congratulations to all the nasa and boeing teams on this incredible milestone. butch and sunny, the iss flight control team is thrilled to see you back on iss this is boeing's first docking with the iss after numerous issues and cost overruns, which have led to corporate embarrassment and uncertainty. and now there is more of that as engineers on the ground are working to learn more about these problems that have plagued the journey despite the issues that surround the starliner, the two astronauts appear to be taking it all in stride. >> i'm not sure we could have gotten a better welcome we had music, we had pojo matt was dancing it was great. >> and if all goes as planned, you'll be back on earth next week gary tuckman, cna, new york let's get more perspective now from r-cnn aerospace analysts, miles o'brien. >> miles big picture for safety crisis, massive inconvenience, both i wouldn't say safety crisis. i would say this john, the hardware, which they are concerned about where all the problems is r, i should say, will be jettisoned and burned up and not returned to earth. and so the engineer's can only troubleshoot it while it's in space. and so they want one to understand, what's going on. why are there all these leaks? why are these thrusters going offline as it were? >> and it's the only way they can test it is while they're still at the international space station. >> so until they get those answers, are they going to try to get those answers though, keep them up there. there's no imminent concern for their well-being of course. >> but that was the next question. so they were supposed to stay awake. they're staying longer. we'll see how long that is, what is being stuck up on the space station look like? what about the contingency plans? i just heard now they're delayed. a third type lots of time to look out the window. they have plenty of food. they've actually employed them to work on some of the research projects. and they seem to be having a good time. you look at those pictures of sunny williams and space and it can't help but smile. but having said all that, this is a star cross spacecraft they'd had leaks before it launched. it was delayed for many years. boeing has taken about $1,000,000,000.5 a hit on it and it's yet another black eye for this once proud aerospace giant you were saying at the start of the conversation, they want to run all this through because this is the only time you can study it. well, it's up there, not effort comes through the burn, coming back down if nasa is using the term indefinite now indefinite now, what does that tell you? is that just again, being extra safe or is that while they're having a hard time figuring this out? >> they don't want to be pinned down. they're going to take these, they have like every four days, they have an opportunity to land it and we should point out there are other ways for them to get home is something really bad happened with this spacecraft but right now, there's plenty of margin for the helium that they need. and the thrusters seemed to be working. they just one of figure out why they're having so many troubles with this spacecraft before they bring them back home remarkable story will continue to stay on at miles o'brien, grateful for your insights, thanks for your time tonight. >> thanks for your time watching throughout the hour, the news continues. the source starts 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