mexico sunday at age on cnn welcome to the lead. >> i'm jake tapper this hour. it's hard to forget the images of a cargo ship crashing into the baltimore bridge in march causing a devastating and deadly collapse. but while the cleanup and investigation have moved forward, those 21 crew members have been stuck on the ship for almost three months. today, there was a hearing about letting them return to their families, mostly in india and sri lanka. and we'll bring you those updates plus is the united states at risk of being pulled into yet another global conflict. the white house is issuing a stern warning after video emerges of a major clash in the south china sea and leading this our supreme suspense as the country he waits for blockbuster decisions from the highest court in the land. the justices issuing four rulings today. but we're still waiting on the three janiot highly consequential ones that we have talking about for weeks now, former president trump's claim that he has immunity from prosecution for actions he took us president the case concerning whether january 6 defendants can be charged with obstruction of a proceeding under that specific law. and third, emergency room abortions. let's get right to cnn supreme court analyst joan biskupic and joan all of these huge decisions could come down within the next two weeks, take us inside the the court as this anticipation mounts, share your phrase supreme suspense was exactly right. and in addition to those big three that you mentioned, they also have a major case on second amendment gun regs. they've cases on social media yeah regulation by government. they have environmental protection cases, federal regulatory disputes. so a lot of major questions that have been lingering for years that have come to culmination. this term. so you go in jake at 10:00 eastern time and then the nine justices usually there are not today. justice alito wasn't on the bench. the nine do sit and the chief says to whoever's going to read the majority opinion for the day, has them speak. but as you know, this is the season of dissent from the bench also because we have so many big cases out there that, you know, a lot is at stake. and this is the time here when a justice who's dissenting wants to call more attention to his or her protest. and we'll speak from the bench. we had that last week and the bump stacks ruling when justice sotomayor protested the majority's decision to invalidate a federal regulation that prohibited bunds, bump stocks as machine guns there is just a lot of anticipation the room, sometimes relatives and friends of the justices come, often a spouse will show up today. justice kavanaugh, his parents were there. so it's just everyone in anticipation and we do not know which cases are going to come when until we get to the very last day, which so this year jake should be potentially a week from next friday or monday, july 1st, and the immunity decision, just a huge one. and obviously will have a significant impact on the presidential race and the timing of this decision can't be ignored. >> it can't jake and i just want to remind everyone that the justices had had an opportunity to take up jack smith's request to examine presidential immunity back in december, special counsel jack smith, representing the department of justice, the american people. he asked the supreme court to actually look then at former president trump's claim that he should be shielded from criminal prosecution for the events after the 2020 election and the justices said no. they decided to wait until oral arguments on april 25th. that's when they heard it. we obviously saw them struggling with some pretty important questions, but now they've already delayed many more weeks that if we get the ruling tomorrow or next week, we are right up against the november election in terms of a possible trial for former president trump because i think just the preparation for any kind of trial is going to take about three months, if not more, jake. so no matter how they rule think the window of opportunity for any kind of prosecution on behalf of the department of justice might be might be doing dwindling jake. >> it's worth noting, of course, that next week marks two years since the supreme court's dobbs decision which overturned roe v. wade. and as the white house bill harris to mark that day, they're also bracing for this emergency room abortion ruling that's right. >> and just think of how much has changed in america since is justices struck down nearly 50 years of constitutional abortion rights. some 14 states have completely banned abortion. several other states have imposed very strict restrictions on people's ability to women's ability to end a pregnancy and we've now even seen debates over in vitro fertilization, all sorts of reproductive rights are now, now, now really in doubt because of that decision. and i think jake, no matter how the justices rule on that federal law, that's intended to ensure emergency room treatment and whether that even applies for potential abortions for a mother's health and emergency situations in states like idaho that ban abortion, that will not be the last word on litigation coming from that 2022 decision to completely eliminate constitutional abortion rights. jiang. all right. cnn's joan biskupic. thanks so much. let's discuss this all with our legal panel. i have with me, elie honig time to pre and brandie harden. elie if the presidential immunity decision ends up being last on the docket. so she said july something's right. july 2 or something. what might the impact be on a potential trial? do you think that's that's it? no trial until after the election. and obviously if trump wins, so get rid of it. i think there's still a chance to get this trial. >> and as joan said, the window is very quickly closing every day that passes, of course, makes a trial less likely before the election. but we're really talking about small change at this point. i mean, whether the decision comes down tomorrow or comes down ten days from now doesn't make that big a difference. here's what to watch though, when the supreme court rules, i think what they're going to do is say, here's the test first-time wherever announcing this, here's the test for presidential immunity. if the court says, here's the test, and trump fails, then it goes back to the trial court and then i think they can squeeze in a trial before the election if they want. but if the court says, here's the new tests and now back to the trial court, you have to decide whether trump meets that test or not, then we're going back up the appeals chain and then there's no trial. >> don't you think that's the second option is what they're gonna do? >> i think the supreme court is basically take a middle position between the two somewhat extreme positions the parties have said that the jack smith says there's basically no immunity that trump team says it's absolute immunity. supreme court's going to come down in the middle. i don't think they are going to get into the facts of this case and apply their newly stated constitutional standard to trump in this case, we solve from the argument that they are operating at 30,000 foot level. they are thinking grand questions of constitutional law. they're not going down to this kind of granular. get your hands dirty question of well, what the stuff trump did falls on the official sayyed are on the private side. i think they're going to announce high arching legal principles and then leave it to the lower courts to sort it all out. >> so brandy, again, oral arguments on april 25th, chief justice of the united states, john roberts said, quote as i read it, it says simply a former president can be prosecuted because he's being prosecuted. why shouldn't we either send it back to the court of appeals or issue an opinion making clear that that's not the law translate that into english for us and when, and how do you think that for foretells what actually is going to happen? so i really just think they're saying, look, if a president is being prosecuted, he can be prosecuted. there is that, that's obviously something that's true but what i really think here is that just like everyone said, they are not going to make a decision. there's going to be new law that they come out with with respect to immunity. and they're just going to send it back to the courts. that's what's really going to happen. and let me say this as a defense attorney, i think there is no chance no possibility of a trial before the election. if i'm now starting a new, i have this file. i've been working on it. there is literally no possibility that i can get through everything and be prepared for a trial. nobody. how many people are on the team in order to be ready before the election. so i think once again, he's going to escape and they're not gonna be any more trials before the election. >> lu have an article coming out in tomorrow in new york magazine on the scenario posed by a see court of appeals judge, which asked quote, could a president who ordered seal team six to assassinate a political rival and who was not impeached, would he be subject to criminal prosecution? the argument being from the trump lawyers at that time during that argument that you have to be impeached before you can be prosecuted. peach impeaching convicted, i think right? you argue it's way oversimplified i think that mobile was the most memorable moment for all the trump arguments, right? >> who could forget it? the answer that dropped donald trump's lawyers gave was outrageous, wrong, reckless and dangerous. the problem is, you have to go beyond that. i am convinced the supreme court is going to reject this theory that anyone can only ever be indicted president if he's first been impeached and then remove, that will never happen. the court's going to say no, that's ridiculous. but we don't, we can't end there because then the court's gonna have to say, well, here's what the standard is, and that's where i think we get into what we've been talking about. so it's not as easy as just saying, of course it can't kill a political rival. of course they're going to reject this one it's taking so long. what's taking so long as they're trying to articulate the standard for the first time in american history. and then they're going to have to have that applied through the trial courts. so it's much more complicated. >> what do you think the standard is going to be? i suspect this court will try to draw some line between official conduct and private conduct. well, does supervising elections counters well, i mean, i think jack smith would have a pretty strong argument to say that the president doesn't really have any formal constitutional role in the election process. that's something that are framers basically delegated to the states, state legislatures, and the light, not the president of the united states. so i think under that test, i think president trump would have a difficult time trying to get out and claim immunity for that that type of conduct. the other thing i want to say is with regard to chief justice roberts quote, i think that actually is fairly significant because as we all know, the chief sits right in the middle of the court. and what he says from the benjamin physically feel scandalous often and so what he questions i interpreted what he said is basically questioning the dc circuit, the lower court's rationale where they rejected any sort of immunity and the chief basically found that reasoning to me circular. so what that tells me is that is exceedingly likely that the supreme court is going to reverse what the lower court said and recognize some sort of immunity. the scope yet to be determined. randi, let's talk about this other case down in florida because the new york times is reporting the two federal judges in florida urged judge aileen cannon to hand and off the classified documents case against donald trump when she first drew the assignment in june 2023. >> but quote, judge cannon, who was appointed by mr. trump, wanted to keep the case and refused the judges in treaties unquote we should note that one of the judges in the story declined to comment to cnn. but what do you make of this reporting, given how long this case this is taken. >> so i think it's probably true that her colleagues have been talking to her about like the heir of impropriety, maybe there's not a smoking gun that she's done something. so incredibly unfair that would make her need to recuse herself. but why create a situation where someone can argue that she's tainted. she should hand the case she should allow another judge to handle it. and i think that that's what makes all this speculation seems so true that maybe she is showing favoritism to mr. trump and that's the same argument you are making about judge merchan because he gave $35 to democrats 15 to biden and while i mean, why even have the stink of it? yeah. there's recusal does not mean the case goes away. your point recusal means it goes to a judge whom there's no questions about by the way, if 999 out of 1,000 federal judges, if another federal judge came up and said, hey, i think this case may be above your head would say, thanks for the advice. i think i'll keep it right. so she's definitely not going to let go of it because a couple of more senior judges said, you may not be up to the tavia. that's right. i mean, you're colleagues telling you to do something when you're an article three, judge, is not going to make you do it. but what i'm saying is that it's such a historic case. there is no reason to have the stench of somebody arguing that it's somehow unfair well, it telling one judge, one federal judge telling another judge, you should recuse because you're not up for the case though that is number one, extraordinary. number to someone in an inappropriate, frankly. i mean, if the reason why can and should have given up the case and we've seen him from reporting maybe because there wasn't a secure confidential information facility located in our courthouse that's different. but if the rationale for stepping aside was well, you're young, you're new, you don't know what you're doing. give it to one of the older judges. i don't know. that's questionable in my mind. yeah. my impression is it judge or judges tend to have rather healthy ego especially doesn't life tenure yeah, for sure. >> not going to tell me what you all for being here the trial of a los angeles it's ballerinas now underway in russia, howard donation to charity led to her facing up to 20 years in prison, plus the violent confrontation at sea. kohn and video, one that experts say raises the risk of us being pulled into yet another global conflict. >> the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher. the president and the former president, one stage two very different visions for 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it's a fact or not that she donated. i think it was $51 to a us based charity which did humanitarian work inside ukraine in its, it's because of that because she's a joule national as well. she's a us citizen. she's also russians but when she came back here earlier this year visiting our grandparents in the city of your catherine berg, which is about 1,000 miles or so for moscow, she was detained. she was accused of treason and is facing a very set was facing a life sentence maximum prison sentence if he's found guilty of that charge because the kremlin has recently increase the penalty for treason. and i think it just goes to show jake how heavily the kremlin is cracking down on any perception of dissent with amongst its own people passing down sentences like this targeting individuals like this, partly because of what she did. but i think can't rule that the idea that she was partly targeted as well because of that jewel american passport there are a number of americans detained in russia right now. obviously, evan gershkovich and paul whelan foremost perhaps among them, we certainly cover those two a lot on this show. how dangerous is it to simply just be an american existing in russia? >> well, i think it's getting increasingly dangerous. you're right pop paul whelan evan gershkovich out. also kurmasheva, who was recently arrested. she works for radio free, europe. she is a joule national as well gordon black staff sergeant in the us army. he was sentenced to just under four years. the other day for stealing money and allegedly assaulting a woman believed to be his girlfriend or russian woman? yeah, incredibly dangerous and the state department, in fairness have been warning you rush, sorry, us citizens for some time about the dangers facing american passport holders in this country and warning people to stay away and those recent cases and all those people in custody, they really sort of reiterate and underlying those hazards and those dangers of being an american get in russia right now, matthew chance and moscow, thanks so much. >> the united states says it is standing buying its allies in the philippines after this video released by the philippine military shows one of its ships being sandwiched by the chinese coast guard and the contested south china sea multiple philippine service members were reportedly injured. this class marks a clear escalation and could have serious implications for us relations with china. as cnn's ivan watson reports hi, she's confrontation that could ignite a war in the middle is a boat belonging to us ally, the philippines sandwich to buy the china coast guard in the heavily contested south china sea on monday footage released by the armed forces of the philippines shows it's uniformed sailors attempting to fight back some chinese coast guard personnel armed with axes and knives but beijing says, the philippines started it to jungle law enforcement measures taken by the china coast guard at the site were professional and restrained. >> that london china says, it seized guns and ammunition from the philippines, ship which was on route to the second thomas shoal it is in manila's exclusive economic zone, but beijing claims almost all of the south china sea for itself in march, i was on board a philippine coast guard ship on one of these routine trips chinese coast guard ships swarmed the philippine ship it is just after sunrise. and as you may see, there is a large chinese coast guard ship directly in front of this philippines coast it's guard vessel a chinese coast guard ship blasted another philippine boat with water cannons monday's clash marks a clear escalation with multiple philippine servicemen injured just last month, the philippine president drew this red line if a filipino citizen is killed by a willful up that is, i think very, very close to what we define as an act of war. >> and therefore, we will respond accordingly. >> if that happens, the united states could be called to 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politics li louisiana's republican governor jeff landry says he cannot wait to be sued over his state's new law, which requires any public school, including colleges that received state funding. this is promised let's play a post your sized protestant version of the ten commandments. there are three different versions. catholic, protestant, and jewish. they enumerate the ten commandments differently. governor landry's wish will come true because just hours after the signing, the american civil liberties, you union or aclu announced that they would prepare a lawsuit and joining us now is attorney heather weaver with the aclu's program on freedom of religion and belief. thank you for joining us. so the aclu sees this as quote blatantly unconstitutiona l, a violation of the separation of church and state. i want you to listen to one of the cosines of the legislation speaking earlier today on cnn checking the state of louisiana, we have echoed a strong voice that we believe that faith is a very important part of history and the founding of this nation, again, we've got it posted in historical buildings all over the place. i don't understand why this is such it's a shock factor to the nation that we would somehow do this what's your response well, but i think commandments are not posted and historical buildings all over the place. they are not the foundation of us law and posting them and other buildings is not the same as posting them our public schools hundreds of thousands of louisiana's schoolchildren are going to be forced to view the ten commandments and every single classroom, every day in their music classes and their science classes and math classes. and that's going to send a message to them. it's going to say, especially to the kids who don't believe in the particular version of the tenant the commandments that the state has approved this official state version. it's telling them that they don't belong, that they're outcast in their own school community. it's a terrible message just under children it's also a blatant and obvious attempt to convert these children to christianity and that's just something that is not permissible in a democracy where we have a strong separation of church and state through our constitutional protection. >> how certain should we expect the aclu to file a suit oh, very soon you can stay tuned, but next week sometime we will be important with are representing our clients and suing the state. so you will no doubt here this argument, i'd like to know what your response would be. a 2023 pew survey finds that 60% of the american people identify as protestant or catholic religion has historically played a big role in american public life. is it really such a bad thing for there to be a poster saying, thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not commit adultery well luck. the time commandments. i religious scripture. and in fact, the version selected by the state is rooted in one particular denomination, luther is-a lutheranism. it's not just, it doesn't actually encompass all protestant faith so that's important to know. there's why disagreement among various faiths and don nominations about what the text of the ten commandments say and what they mean. and let's not forget that the first few actually probably four or five of the commandments explicitly referenced religion and religious dictates. they say, don't take the name of the lord in vain. they say, don't make your graven images. remember the sabbath day and keep it holy. these are not just a religious moral tenets that they're trying to teach the kids if you want to teach the kids not to kill, if you want to teach the kids not destiel, those are certainly valuable lessons that personally want it values that we want to instill in all of our children. but there are ways to do that without posting the ten commandments, every single public school classroom, the aclu also has a history of defending students rights to decline to say the pledge of allegiance, which of course includes one nation under god, which was added to the pledge in the 50s, i believe how will that history and form, if it will at all, how the aclu approaches this case well, in that case that was a really the issue is really about speech issue here we're talking about separation of church and state issue with the state is imposing religious scripture on students really, for no reason. >> the budget of allegiance extensively at least has some sort of patriotic purpose. although again, as you know, we do object to the inclusion of undergrad on it and we think students have a right to not stand for the pledge if they don't want to, and so we're defining a student's right there. we also defense students rights to exercise their faith and school all the time but this is not that this is the government imposing a particular religious scripture on students day in and day out from kindergarten through senior year if you go once you've enrolled in school, you're gonna be subjected to this week calculated it's something like over 2000 days. you will be subjected to the ten commandments on this classroom walls. official state version. it's sending the message that these are the rules that you should be believed that this is the religious afternoon show, the leaving, and, that just violates the rights of students and parents and families to decide for themselves what they wanted to believe do we really want the government telling us what our religious belief should be? that's what's happening here with the ten commandments displays. >> another waiver with the aclu. thank you so much. appreciate it. three months after the horrific bridge collapse, some of the crew on the cargo ship might finally be able to get off and home to their families. the new details from today's hearing next defeat like in america, biden and trump meet and only cnn has complete coverage with unrivaled accident that's an exclusive pre and post a beat analysis follow cnn for every 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data shows grew to a difference of more than $240,000 between a typical white family and it's typical black family in 2022 fortunately for morgan general motors is part of 110, a coalition of some 70 fortune 500 companies at the forefront of the skills first movement and approach to hiring that focuses on skills over college degrees. we're trying to sort of level the playing field founded in 2020, the coalition has an ambitious goal place 1 million black and other workers who don't have a bachelor's degree into good paying family sustaining jobs in ten years, so it's not a degree that's going to be the golden ticket. it's going to be the skills that are required to get you the job that hopefully puts you on a sustainable path more young people are rethinking a four-year degree. >> given the rising cost of college and taking on debt, a report by the gates foundation found confidence in the value of a college degree fell from 2022 to 2023, among non college graduates age 18 to 30 while confidence in the value of job training and professional licensing programs went up morgan enrolled in community college in 2019 just as she was wrapping up her first semester, the pandemic struck derailing her plans so she took jobs in retail, something about being in an engineer and being in technology, just kept calling to me and she struggled to save money. she soon found a tuition free technology training program run by a partner in one tends talent development network helping connect companies like gm with workers trained in specific skills like coding morgan is now working to master the javascript programming language and still hopes to one day earn a bachelor's degree. but for now, she credits this job with boosting her confidence providing financial security, and peace some mind, having programs like this actually spread the word that no jobs are looking for your experience. you don't have to have this fancy degree behind it. you can just come as you are athena jones, cnn, warrant michigan. >> for 12 long weeks now, nearly three months, 21 crew members of the dali cargo ship have been stuck on board after the ship lost power and toppled the francis scott key bridge in baltimore. but this morning, a hearing is paving the way for at least some of them to finally be able to get out of that a situation and fly home to their families halfway across the world. cnn's gabe cohen is in baltimore for escape. tell us what happened in this hearing yeah. >> so jake, a deal has been reached that would allow eight of those crew members to finally set foot off the ship yep. be transported directly to the airport and fly home potentially in the next day or two after this, very long endeavor of this long issue that they have gone through remember, 21 crew members onboard the dali, 20 of them are indian nationals one of them is from sri lanka. all of them have been stuck on the boat for nearly three months now. and there are several reasons for that. look, they've been keeping the ship is safe and operational, which was particularly critical when it was stuck behind me here at the wreckage site, but they've been also the part of several investigations federal investigations, including a federal criminal federal probe involving the department of justice as investigators are still trying to piece together why it is that the ship lost power and steering just beyond those pillars behind me before ramming into the bridge, they are still piecing all of that together. we know that there has been a federal order in place, a customs order in place for acquiring the 21 crew members could be and stay on board that ship. but we've learned from court documents that in the last few days, the coast guard and the department of justice gave the green light essentially for those eight specific lower ranking crew members to be released and to be able to fly home as long as they are available for this investigation and eventually to be posed by lawyers for the city of baltimore remains remember they still have that big case as they're seeking damages from the shipping companies. but jake, for those other 13 crew members, they are still stuck here in the united states. they are not going to be allowed to leave potentially until the end of this investigation. in fact, i spoke with the chaplain for the port of baltimore. he has been working closely with the crew of the dolly's since this incident, and he told me he doesn't believe those 13 crew members are going to be able to leave until all of the litigation is done, jake and that could take many months, maybe more than a year. >> and that's because they a ship cannot be empty. i mean, i guess the parent company could send people to replace them with that with that work correct? >> that's what's happening right now, that they are going to send a replacement crew for the dali. >> there are already it's already in motion. that's happening happening and they're going to replace those eight crew members. but those federal investigations are a big piece of it. and the federal government, these agencies have not wanted to release the full crew as this investigation is happening, and that's what we saw play out at court where the city of baltimore almost blocked this, telling the judge they didn't want those eight crew members to leave because they hadn't had a chance to interview them and they were worried they were going to disappear into the wind, but they got assurances from their lawyers saying they will be available for interviews when those depositions company around jake. >> all right. gave cohen thanks so much we asked and you answered coming up next cnn's dr. sanjay gupta is here to answer health questions that you sent him after we asked for your questions yesterday historically, the soviet union killed traders i started to run two kgb cause i'd come behind us. >> i didn't know what to do secrets and spies. >> a nuclear game sunday at ten on cnn whether you're doing it yourself 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might have for sanjay. >> and today the doctor is in. >> so let me bring in cnn's chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, also a neurosurgeon. so gita from houston asks you sanjay, quote can daily mental exercises are doing words with friends or paper-based crossword puzzles, reduce your odds of getting dementia. that's actually my question to sanjay, because i'm doing these word games and such, because i read somewhere that keeping your brain active can help is that, is that real yeah. >> well, i think it can help. i think what if keith us asking can it actually reduce your risk of dementia later on in life? that would tell you, i think the evidence is less clear on that. what what were you seem to here is that if you're doing a lot of crossword puzzles, it may help a little bit with your working memory but what it mainly does is making good at doing crossword puzzles. and the point is this, if you're actually trying to create cognitive reserve or cognitive resilience in the brain, which helps decrease your chance of dementia later, you need to be doing things that are different pitt taking up a new hobby, for example, learning how to paint, doing a musical instrument, taking up a new language, preferably things with your hands. so instruments and painting would be better crossword puzzles. >> not so much, not, not at least in terms of looking at the long-term risk of dementia interestingly, i'll tell you, jake, the thing that has the best evidence since in terms of actually growing new brain cells is brisk activity, brisk movement that actually helps create new brain cells. so for you, for example, i'd suggest going for a brisk walk with jennifer, your wife, versus doing a crossword puzzle if delaying are not getting dementia is your goal i feel like jennifer maybe paid paid you to tell me that she's always trying to get me on go go on walks. >> okay. okay. i'll do it. jesse from atlanta asks, do you suggest those that have a family history of alzheimer's get the screenings and tests that you took as a baseline or at what age or not necessary and a lot of people want and to know how they can test and what early warning signs they should look out for yeah. >> i'll tell you the testing that i went through was pretty extensive. it was also part of a clinical trial that richard isaacson is running as part of a preventive neurology testing. it's not widely available yet, although they're getting to that point there is a website called retain your brain brain.com. retain your brain and you can do a lot of these cognitive exercises there. i got to tell you, jake, i think he would do really well on this, but questions like name as many words as you can, starting with the letter t. in the next 60 seconds. and the more complicated the word, the more words you can actually name, the better how many animals can you name the rare the animal, the more unusual the animal, the better how many can you name in the next 60 seconds, things like that, but also checking your bone density because physical health and brain health are very interconnected, and that's what a lot of these studies show. so the second part of jesse's question, how do you really know if something is age-related versus actually dementia due to all timers well, if you look at sort of how people remember things, i always say, if someone actually forgets the name of a family member that's a problem for getting the name of acquaintance. that's actually pretty common. a better example, people forget where they put their car keys all the time. that is not a sign of dementia, but if it takes you an extra beat to actually remember what those keys are. what is this thing that i'm holding that's obviously a sign of a bigger problems. so that's that's one way to think about jesse. >> i'm very excited that knowing an olin ditto or a tree kangaroo will get me extra points. that's my that's my those weird animals. i knew you do well on that exam, lisa from north carolina wants to know what my mother and my grandmother had alzheimer's, should i be tested for that? that's another question. a lot of people who had family members with alzheimer's wondered if they should be concerned what they can do if they're genetically predisposed predisposed to get it, what do you say to them well, let me answer this simply i think a few years ago i said, maybe not because the testing wasn't that good and there wasn't a lot you could do about it. >> but i think those things are starting to change. the testing is getting a lot better it's becoming more determinative in terms of what it can tell you. and also, there are things you can do now to decrease your risk of alzheimer's later in life. and as we showed in the documentary, jake, even if people who have mild cognitive impairment, there is signs that people can reverse those symptoms this as well, jake, dr. sanjay gupta, thanks so much. this is fine. are we gonna do this every week because this is a new thing i'd love to. 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