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who who left is somebody left it there now for president biden, the debate strategy is simple. >> just let the other guy buried himself what do you think you need to accomplish on that debate stage say what i think with him saturday. >> thinks. she said her off the wall. i want to be a dictator on day one. i wanted to move in a direction where it talks about suspending the constitution. i wanted to share what he says, remind people what he says and what i believe what he believed and we have exclusive cnn reporting this morning about debate prompts for both candidates. >> one, secluding himself at at mountainside retreat with a team of advisors. the other meeting with vp hopefuls working on sharpening his attacks. so let's bring in cnn political analyst and historian leah wright, rigueur, former federal prosecutor prosecutor elliot williams for the white house communications director, came benningfield and land stover spokesperson for noted dakota governor doug burgum is 2024 presidential campaign. all right so before we get into the debate, i don't want to just talk about the state of the race right now. there was a fox news poll out by us last night, and i probably better news than biden has had in really months. he's been trailing this one, had him actually ahead, of course, within the margin of error. so there's really no clear leader, 50, 48. it says here there was a bit but bump with independent voters for biden in the last month or so. lance republican strategist here at the table is biden getting a bump post trump conviction i think national polls are a snapshot in time you're getting a mood of the country in the moment right here on june 20, right? >> and that's what they are think what's more interesting right now is taking a look at what is happening in some of the states and the polling we've seen virginia become a little more competitive leasing trump leading and sometimes winning in nevada, we saw pull from the demoing register this week and granted, it's iowa, there was a 20 point delta that is a huge number. but i also think it's interesting looking at some of the congressional races out there that biden's swing districts so i'm talking to a lot of people on the hill, pollsters and the like donald trump is leading in these districts that biden won in 2020 that have republican members. so i think we also need to look at what's going on both in the states and the congressional races. >> and of course, the states will determine the next president, not natural, but still natural balls do give a mood of where things are in that same poll. kate, it does i'm talking about trump is doing among men and says, he's up about 15. the biden among men. but biden's doing better with people 65 age 65 and older. 15 points i had with women by 17 points still struggling though biden is with rural voters. so how does he improved his appeal to male voters and rural voters? of course, in these wisconsin and michigan, he's going to need them. >> yeah. well, in some ways, i think so. i certainly agree that pulls are just a snapshot in time, but i also think that this underscores that the biden campaign's theory of the case here, which is that as people started to dial in and started to see donald trump, remember donald trump, obviously his conviction, as we've seen in the data let's play to significant part in making him unpalatable to some of these swing voters. but that as people started to die down to the race, they would find trump less and less appealing. and see biden as the viable alternatives. so i think for rural voters, for male voters, i think biden has to continue to draw this contrast on democracy see on the existential nature of this election, i think in some ways talking about the fact that this election is is historic and different because trump represents a threat to the very fabric of who we are as a country that's a powerful message that lands with voters across the spectrum. >> this idea of dilated man is a really interesting one because people have not, i don't think americans have really focused on this idea of trump versus biden. there sort of two individuals that everybody is familiar with on a day-to-day level. but facing them on a stage as candidates in 2024 hasn't really happened yet. now i understand and correct me if i'm wrong, this is earlier than presidential debates typically happen and this is probably earlier than we are used to seeing candidates debating now. so how does this moment or how will it, it's just rhetorical question shift the way the public sees these two people against each other, rather than just an absolutely in this earlier debate, is very much underscores again, the biden campaign's theory, the case that people need to understand and that these two guys are the choice. and seeing them together onstage this early lottery say they don't believe that biden think they still don't think biden is going to be the democratic nominee so there's, this is important for the biden cancer. >> i also think this is one of the things that the fighting campaign has biden ministration has really been struggling with is joe biden's age, even though he and donald trump are essentially the same age. and one of the things that they've done is they have really leaned into this idea of wisdom, of experience, particularly in the face of an existential threat to democracy. and what we're seeing i think at some of these snapshot polls, again, it's way too early to call the race. but what we're seeing in some of these snapshot polls, is that their attempt to one, went over independence on the nature of wisdom and age is is actually playing out quite well. but the other thing is that the biden administration has launched this kind of long-term plan with older voters in it is paying off in dividends i want to point out how again, that american public has made a lot of really a lot of stink about the age of the two candidates. but in particularly joe biden, one of the things that we're going to have to see in the debate is that, that age debate actually doesn't necessarily matter in the way that we think it does. and i still think that at the end of the day, americans are looking at the fact that they have two old white guys that are running and essentially saying, you know what, maybe this is a red herring. maybe we can actually look at other things because the choices essentially age the same if we're looking at and i would just say quickly, older voters are also more consistent voters that young voters tend to capture a lot of media attention. and there's always focused on where young voters going to go, but older voters show up more consistently than young voters. >> yeah i want you guys to weigh in about the debate rules. >> one of them is about the muting of the mics. and let's just look back at what happened in 2020 when that mics we're not muted the question. >> the question is just the rational left. >> would you who is on your list? >> you this when you write, gentlemen, i think pack the court we are not going to give a look so this time around, if you're not speaking or bike will be muted. so lands, who does that give an advantage to? >> this is going to be epic i can't wait. >> i think if you're a political, it isn't going to be epic joe biden has forgotten more about debating the most at this table. lever know he's very experienced, he knows what he's doing setting the bar high. anybody who, anybody who says, anybody who suggests otherwise, it's kinda plain into the biden campaign sandi, i feel like, but at the same time, donald trump is pretty experienced and he has a way of communicating with people that resonates with voters out there. he's going to go out and say the costs are out of control. the border is out of control. and let's face it, those are the messages that are resonating out there. so mike's know, mike's, it's going to counterpoint to the biden being a great debater. cover your ears, came president's sitting presence. have notoriously bad first and those are questions about obama got smoke biden met romney in that first debate, everyone was asking the question, is brock obama done george w bush did not do well on this first one because they're running the country and it's hard it's hard to sort of focus on this new opponent and do that the ligand by trump has not been having any debate. he didn't engage every the primary debates is not been entered, answered questions touristy, right? universal. is he rusty? >> well, we've seen but we saw reporting in the new york times yesterday. he has started to do more formal. trump has. and i think there's also a recognition amongst his team that that first debate in 2020 did not go well for him, and that the interrupting and the chaotic energy was not helpful as somebody who help prep president biden for that debate. i can tell you, we certainly saw that debate did not help donald trump. numbers fell off after that debate because people were people were put off by the angry, uncivil way he conducted himself. but i think everybody was an expectation that that's the donald trump who is going to show up next week. i don't think that's true. i think the while trump is going to show up next week is going to be the most disciplined version of donald trump. i think he knows this is a big stage and you were talking about the mutated mics. i'm somebody who actually thinks the muted mics probably helped trump. yeah. and actually, i always nearly just about to say that will it help trump because it may look be more disciplined and maybe voters like that. i just think that's well democrats agreement with public enzyme that ross democrat all right. next, one of trump's vp foot on are starting to sound yoely similar to the man who hopes to call boss one day plus tropical storm alberto forming in the gulf of mexico and already making a deadly impact. and a manhunt underway for a suspected double murder the most anticipated moment of this election. and the stakes couldn't be higher. the president and the former president, one stage moderated by jake tapper and dana bash to cnn presidential debate. next thursday night at nih live on cnn and streaming on max cities industry-leading global payment solutions help their clients move money around the world seamlessly in over 180 countries, and help a partner like the world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need. >> together, city in the world, food programme and empower families across the globe we're coming together for our yearly service project and running a t-shirt fundraiser through custom ink to help the cause plus their design services team helped us get a design. >> we love come together for a cause, get started today. accustoming.com if you're about to replace your roof stop, there's a solution about 80% less expensive, nine out of ten roofs can be saved by ruth max, guaranteed to extend the life of your current rule by five to 15 years at a fraction of the cost of a new roof group max is deep penetrating power restored tours flexibility and water protection nobody wants to replace their roof restore it instead with ruth masks for 80% less call now for a free roof inspection when your pets hungry, you definitely know when you want your attention, he makes it clear. >> when he wants to be left alone, he makes it obvious but if you're a cat has ole pain, also known as osteoarthritis pain. he may be saying out in different ways, it's a long-lasting condition that makes it painful for your cat to move like they once did, like when walking or climbing. red flags are everywhere, but cats are really good at hiding their pain you just need to know what to look for. visit cat red flags.com to learn about the signs of oa pain and how your vet can help getting a bond on this project. >> i asked mark they want here's an idea. let's ask markham. >> that's good. >> now lunch was coupled with the people with all the answers, get all the answers asked markham accountants and advisers you know what's brilliant, boring, think about it. >> boring is the unsung catalyst for bowl. what straps bold, do a rocket and hurdles and into space? 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>> how badly does doug burgum want this job? you don't become vice president by running for vice president, i think you get chosen for vice president based on what you've done. and i think that's if he's in consideration for vice presidents because donald trump sees what a lot of people see is that doug burgum is on a very successful person in his private life and business life and a very successful person is in his governorship. mr. shark tank, kevin o'leary was on cnn last week telling him saying he should be vice president. it's based on all the work that he's done in north dakota and so if he's in consideration for that, i think it's because of all the good things that he's done over the course of his career relentlessly on math but the question is, do you expect now? hi but we're looking at the insider but seriously, does he want it like you'd have to ask him that you should have them on the show for c wants it. so what do you think that he brings to the ticket? >> so i think it's apparent that he brings that the business community loves him. we saw that once he was in consideration, once you missing the mix, that a number of high-profile donors who had been withhold during their support, their surrogacy, even their endorsements, all of a sudden the money starts pouring it. i think there was one large scale several very, very high donation that happened two weeks ago and explore the explicit language around it was well, i want a businessman on the ticket, but i got to say the language that we're seeing now, the rhetoric that pounding the pavement, maybe campaigning for the job. i actually think it's doing the opposite of what trump needs. in terms of or what he's looking for. so on the one hand, we know that who knows what donald trump is looking for, right? it changes with the weather but on the other hand, the things that i think that the governor brings are that kind of financial or business acumen? he doesn't need to remind people about the nir total ban on abortion particularly when that's one of one of donald trump's vulnerabilities with the, with the american public right now right and i'm gonna game, what do you think of what does the biden campaign think of doug burgum, the possibility of them? >> i be concerned that he could help don john. >> i don't think he changes the calculation for them and how they approach trump. i mean, we've seen his willingness to essentially sell his soul and he's not unique in that amongst republicans vying for this job in terms of going out and sort of hedging on january 6 where he's previously had said that it was an awful de, those exact words, but he had said it was not not a good thing for the country. now he's kinda when it gets asked about it, he's kind of hedging so he doesn't really change the calculation for the for the biden campaign, i should say and i think lias point is exactly right. he also underscores some of trump's biggest vulnerability is the abortion piece, for example, i mean, he, he's a he's a doubling down on some of the most conservative problematic, vulnerable issues for donald trump. so i think for the biden campaign, it's sort of like pick him, pick one of the other guys at the end of the day, it's all about trump. does he get it? i'm gonna get it. what do you combine is asking me what donald trump is going to do? >> i'd be on an island living if i can predict that if i do think that's wondering here we go, i agree. i'm not sure it really matters who have donald trump chooses nothing today. i think it's people tended vote for the top of the ticket, but of course it's a hugely significant job and toys, we'll see what trump decides to deal. >> all right. i had dangerous wildfires still raging in new mexico despite heavy rain storms and we're on supreme court watch as the justices prepare to decide on donald trump's immunity claims and more anderson cooper 360 tonight at eight on cnn at morgan stanley, old old-school hard work meets ball, new thinking to help you see untapped possibilities. and relentlessly work with you to make them real its terms day but neutrogena, ultra shear sunscreen is still on the clock. vital sun protection goes six layers deep blocking 97% of burning