>> all right. thanks for joining us. the news continues here on cnn happening now and escalating campaign battle over immigration. that's president biden orders new protections for some undocumented spouses and children of us citizens and slams donald trump for fueling fears of immigrants standby to here are trump is hitting back tonight. also this hour, an extraordinary seen in north korea as kim jong-un embraces letter putin and gives him the red carpet treatment. the us watching wearily as these adversaries of the west are cozying up and increasing their military cooperation at a moment of reckoning, that's what one senator is calling a tense hearing about growing worries over the safety of boeing jets. we're going to tell you how the testimony of bowman ceo played with lawmakers and with relatives of crash victims who were there in the room welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world i'm wolf blitzer, a you're in the situation room we begin with president is it a biden's new move to shield some undocumented immigrants from deportation. its impact on families and the heated politics surrounding it all if can turner was standing by the trump rally in wisconsin. but first let's go to cnn's kayla tausche. she's over at the white house. kayla, what is this do for immigrants and what is the president hoping it does politically wealth beginning later this summer, hundreds of thousands of spouses of citizens and undocumented children can start applying for legal residents in the us previously, they would have had to do so from outside the us. >> and in some cases, stay outside the us for up to ten years but after after today's executive action by president biden, those individuals can stay in the country during that application process as long as those couples have been married for at least ten years and they were married before yesterday. >> here's what president biden said this afternoon these couples have been razi families shenandoah kids, just churches, school, pay taxes contributed our country living in the united states all this time fear and uncertainty we can fix that. >> and that's what i'm gonna do today politically, the white house under pressure from the advocacy groups, frustrated with an attempted crack down at the border and stricter asylum rules as of just a few weeks ago. >> and the campaign also trying to pit today hey, is move against the policy of former president donald trump, whom biden will be facing on a debate stage in just a week. a statement out today from biden campaign manager julie chavez rodriguez says, families belong together with 550,000 people impacted by today's move. >> it's the most sweeping executive action since dhaka, which in 2012 allowed some 832,000 young people whose immigrant parents brought them here to live and work freely in the us. >> but luck like daga, daga, this is also expected to face legal challenges, but the biden camp believes that because these individuals were eligible for green cards already, that they should be he able to prevail. but there has been one question, wealth at the white house has faced repeatedly today, amid up months long standoff in congress on this issue and an election just months away is why did the president choose to do this? now, and the white house would only say because immigration is broken, wealth tausche at the white house. >> thank you very much. i want to go to john to steve contorno right now. he's on the watching on the campaign trail. trump in whiskey johnston, steve, you're covering this rally in racine. how is trump responding to president biden's new action on immigration well, he just finished up behind me, wolf and he no surprise. >> he was very critical of this new action from president biden. he referred to it as quote mass to amnesty. he said it is illegal to do this without congress's approval. take a listen to what he said when i'm reelected, joe biden's illegal amnesty play and would be ripped up and thrown out on the very first day that we're back in because he's just using that group who tried to use it? >> so all of these people that are pouring into our country to vote now i should point out that it is illegal in us to vote if you are a non-citizen in there is little evidence that non-citizens are voting in mass in the united states. >> but donald trump has made immigration central to his campaign against president joe biden. it's an issue he talked about a lot here in racine. this is a part of the state that he is spending quite a bit of time and it's a second time here is six weeks, obviously, it's a critical part of a key battleground, and it's why he is the republican party has chosen to have the convention nearby him, a walkie trump, although of course, is coming into this event, having called the city, quote, horrible behind closed doors with house republicans last week he addressed that this today. listen to what he told this crowd i love the lucky i was the one that picked milwaukee zion people that they say, oh, he doesn't like my work. >> i love milwaukee. i said, you got to fix the crime. we all know that you've got to make sure the elections honors we expect trump to be here quite a bit in the coming months. >> and of course course we're just less than a month in a way now, from the convention in milwaukee, wolff, steve contorno in racine, wisconsin for a steve. thank you very much. i want to bring and cnn political commentators, karen and christian soldiers, anderson. karen trump is clearly trying to clean up his remarks. he called milwaukee in that closed-door meeting with republicans, a horrible city. now he's saying he loves milwaukee. you think this is going to have an impact democrats have launched billboards all over the city pointing out what he said behind closed doors absolutely. >> and as you know of milwaukee is a critical part of the electorate and wisconsin, you have to win that area to win the state. so he knows that they big mistake. i'm sure folks have told him we've got weird have no chance because remember, it wisconsin was another state that was very close. it was closed in 2016. it was close again in 2020 so yeah, he's trying to clean it up, but the problem the thing down, he keeps forgetting is that there's videotape of these things. and i think democrats are going to be more than happy happy to keep reminding him about what he actually said videotape yet, because it was your right? yes. are there maybe videotape. but there are a bunch of people who were in that room or heard of? >> yes. and that's significant kristen trump wrote this on his truth social account about this whole controversy. let me read it to you and our viewers, the democrats are making up stories that i said milwaukee is a horrible city. this is false, a complete lie who would say such a thing without important state in the balance, which obviously that's a good question. who would say such as with wisconsin, the key battleground states, it looks like maybe who would say such a thing is donald trump? look, if i was advising him, i would not have made put that in the post talking points at the same time. i think it's completely likely that this will be just item 999 on the pile of almost 1,000 things that donald trump said that we go, oh my goodness, isn't this horrible, isn't this going to cost him the election and it doesn't. >> right now he's still doing quite well in polls and competitive battleground states. >> and frankly by saying, look, i'm going to be the one who's talking for on an issue like crime. of course, that was one of his explanations for the comment was i was just saying that the crime there was bad. >> it is true that voters don't think that crime is being handled well and they tend to think that donald trump would be better on that issue generous thing, you know we're hearing that the trump has also now slamming slamming a biden's. do protections for some undocumented immigrants here in the united states, spouses, children, the biden campaign says this about the action, and i'm quoting now from the biden campaign families belong together. it's that simple. it's also a powerful, stark reminder of donald trump's unforgivable legacy of ripping i've been crying children away from their parents when he put in place his family separation policy. so what do you think about this move from the democrats? yeah. >> look, i think president biden, this is actually what he told us he was going to do. remember when he announced the actions at the border, he said that there would be some additional announcements coming that would speak to how we have to have a humane approach. and part of that approach, the president believes is you keep families together. and so this was part, but i also wanted to go to the bigger picture here, right? so this is going to help about 500 thousand families but let's also remember the reason the president is doing it this way is because republicans walked away from bipartisan some of the toughest legislation that we've ever seen so now the president has to go it alone. so now the president also introduced legislation on immigration reform. the first day in office. so we're in this moment because republicans have refused to come to the table. i think yes, it's an election year, but it's also a problem that needs to be solved. kristen, what do you think? >> look, i think the action itself, the idea of saying the spouses of somebody who has been here for a long time, they've been married for this. i'm sure that if i put that in a poll today, it would test very well, even among republicans. but the problem that joe biden is facing is that when people think about immigration policy see this is not the first thing they're going to be thinking about. there are gonna be thinking about record high border crossings at the southern border, or they're going to be thinking about the sorts of images of the disarray that we've seen and frankly, that's why in all the numbers i've seen when you ask voters do you trust joe biden to handle the issue of immigration has numbers have gotten worse and worse throughout his presidency. >> i would just mention wolf to that point. they also mentioned today in there statements that actually numbers are going down per the president's recent announcement. so i think we're going to see that continue over the coming months because it was only a couple of weeks or so ago when biden and downs asylum restrictions, that's right along the border with mexico at an a new cbsa. yougov poll, 62%, 62% of americans say they support deporting all undocumented minute immigrants living in the united states. when you look at these poll results, is president biden out of touch with the american people know, look at a couple of things. number one, we know in poland when you ask people the other thing they say is but they want to do humane immigration at the same time, i grew up in california and to me, this is so ridiculous because let's be honest, if we didn't mass deportation of all immigrants who's going to cut your lawn, who's going to babysit your children, who's going to work in the kitchens and our restaurants, who's going to pick the grapes for the wine that you drink. and as our own reporting has shown here at cnn, it would increase costs if this mass deportation idea, immigrants are so important to our country kristen, you think this is gonna be a huge part of the debate next week between can trump and biden. >> absolutely. in fact, i think even if it's not directly asked about, i imagined donald trump will want to go there because he likes talking about this issue so much precisely because of pull numbers like the one we just talked about. i agree with care and i don't think that actually six in ten americans really understanding what it would take to actually deport every undocumented immigrant we want to do so. but it is striking how the tone around this issue has shifted. so much over the last decade, it used to be the focus was on republicans are so mean on this issue. democrats are the best here. it has really flipped into republicans camp. there's been sold to sanderson karen funny, the both of you thank you very, very much. >> just ahead. >> my one-on-one preview with actor and activist jane fonda her decision to campaign for a presidential candidate for the first time. it how she thinks president biden should reach out to anti we're activist plus, the first images of what ukraine is calling a quote lonely romance. him, john moon welcoming vladimir putin to north korea as the two leaders get ready for a new round of military cooperation with the world watching you will mate to find inner peace. we were made to track flight prices too paradise from medium rare well done so many ways to save life ruddy, while it happy, that's 365 by whole foods market, make this assembler to share and save during the qia summer sticker sales event three rokia sorrento the 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this is really the first time you've actively, actively campaigned for a presidential candidate. so here's the question, why now and why biden i would have probably done it earlier, but nobody asked and why now? >> the elections in november or existential really, who wins in november is going to determine whether we have a livable future. it's as simple well, is that and there's a very stark choice it's not that i'm 100% happy with president biden but he's someone that we can work with that american people can work with we can, if we can prove to him there's a problem which is what happened recently when people from texas and louisiana went to washington to tell him that they were getting sick and dying because of the presence of gas terminals and oil refineries, poisoning their communities. he created a pause it's not sexy, not front-page news, but it's really important that's the kind of man he is. if you show them the problem if you touch his heart, he will he will act accordingly. and so because i think that this election is so important, it's existential. i decided that i was going to throw in with the campaign. >> so let me follow up. jane is, is your support for president biden more about supporting him or stopping donald trump it's a little of both you know, i i've known joe biden for a long time and i was so happy to meet his wife, jill and work with her in reno. >> we launched the seniors for biden harris and it was so much fun and it was so wonderful. i had per meter before. and there's a lot about president biden that i really admire and respect and like i'm primarily a climate activist and you know, this i guess the best way that i can describe what will happen if the orange man is elected. as we know, because we read papers recently, he invited all the ceos of the big oil companies to meet with him at mar-a-lago. and he basically said, if you give me $1 billion, i will cut all the climate regulation since that you don't like clean air, clean water, all these kind of things that really protect the american people. and that's why i really want to elect joe biden because we're running out of time. i have grandchildren. i i won't be around to see the worst of it, but we have to confront the climate crisis and we have to do it fast. what the future at that event that you were just referring to jane, that seniors for biden harris event that you attended the first lady said her husband, quote, isn't one of the most effective presidents of our lives, in spite of his age. >> but because of it, her words, the president's age and fitness is a key issue in this campaign. it keeps coming up why do you think voters should see it as an asset for the president well, i'm older than he is and i'm all for age. >> i can tell you that you do get wiser and you do learn things you learn from your mistakes and i have seen him up close and personal and he's fine he's he's he's perfectly suited to be president of the united states i don't know because of or in spite of the age, he's just fine. and you know, he's someone we can work with and that's what we need. we don't need a demagogue over the years. i know a jane you've been an outspoken anti-war activists for many, many years, going back to the vietnam war, a lot of us remember that we've seen demonstrations over israel's war in gaza. we've seen those demonstrations at college campuses across the united states. how should president biden tried to reach out to voters, especially young people who were upset over his handling of this conflict. >> i understand the anguish. i feel it myself, the anguish to see the deaths children dying. it's it's it's a terrible thing to watch. it's a very complicated situation i can't pretend that i understand it very well. i haven't i've been israel six times since the 1980s and i love israel. i it was under very different leadership when i went over there i miss the israel that i fell in love with in the 1980s, frankly it's complicated in terms of international diplomacy and all of that. >> and i think that president biden is trying to protect israel, be loyal to israel. and at the same time, demand a ceasefire demand that the, bombing stop that the children stopped being killed. i think he's he's doing both but i understand the anguish of the protesters. i can't say that i know what he should do differently because i don't understand the situation well enough jane fonda, we always appreciate it. >> go ahead well, just one other thing. >> if the orange man wins next november, it's going to be much worse. for palestinians. i can say that jane fonda. thank you so much for joining us it's good to see you again in coming up the big move, paving the way for one of the biggest sales ever of us it's weapons to israel, will discuss with a key member of the armed services committee, congresswoman alyssa slotkin what the biggest companies the liver is an exceptional customer experience what makes it possible is unmatched connectivity and 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the war-torn strip in the israeli port city of ashdod, tucked behind this power plant from these satellite images, you can see it's sheltering at the port, unable, once again to operate in heavy seas the pier began with a major promise from president joe biden i'm directing the us military to lead an emergency mission to establish a temporary pier in the mediterranean a temporary pier will enable a massive increase the amount of humanitarian assistance getting into gaza every day two months after the state of the union, the pier known as j lots did begin delivering humanitarian aid to gaza us aid set this nautical option would one day be able to feed half 1 million people a month as critical supplies on the grounds stalled checkpoints and airdrops can only do so much. >> but a week after it began operations in may, the pier broke in heavy seas repairs took more than a week and the small army vessels that are part of the system also needed work after four for them ran aground and high waves and winds. >> the pentagon said are rare weather pattern knocked the $230 million pier out of commission. >> what happened was something that was quite unprecedented. it was the high seas states and then that storm that changed direction and created an untenable environment for j lots to operate in the last time the pier was used operationally was the haiti earthquake in 2010. since then, it has repeatedly struggled and exercises with rough weather the pier was back up and running again on june 8th, but soon hit another snag when there was no one to handle aid coming off the pier? >> well, right now, we're paused on israeli rescue mission, which freed four hostages and killed scores of palestinians, forced the world food programme to pause its distribution effort and re-evaluate the safety of the area. so we've stepped back just for the moment and to make sure that we're in on safe terms and on safe ground aid still came off the pier, but it didn't get to the people who needed it without the un's world food program to lead distribution. >> it's unclear how viable the period this in the future, the good news is, is that it's on the beach, so it's a step closer to getting to the people who need it most. but i just don't have an update on when that will be further distributed. >> but even the latest effort didn't last long. the pier, which can only handle three foot seas, was knocked out of commission once again moved back to ashdod out of an abundance of caution to wait for calmer sees no. the pentagon says it should be up and running by the end of the week. so in the next couple of days here will certainly keep an eye on that. but us can break down and set up this pier as many times as it needs to or when heavy seas come in, the real critical component here is the world food program because they run the distribution of all the aid that comes off the pier. and if they're not willing to carry out that part of the role, than aid will simply sit there in gaza and not get distributed until the people who needed wolf out the world food program, it's not clear that this mission can even be completed and that will force the us to look back to the other options to the air jobs that they're still doing occasionally as well as to the land crossings that are all too often not operational it's also said oren liebermann at tel aviv for us. >> thank you very, very much and joining me now, representative elissa slotkin, democrat of michigan, and a member of the house armed services committee congresswoman. thanks so much for joining us. i want to get first to this story. we'd just been reporting this us pier off the coast of gaza has suffered setback after setback and has only delivered a tiny fraction of aid the palestinians, is it time to call this i failed mission look at, i don't think people understand just how complicated this is. >> it sounds simple when you say it, but obviously you heard that it's just more complicated than we would have liked. i don't know if it's if we're ready to give it up. i'm going to leave that to the military, but we need more humanitarian area aid to gaza and the pier was already a stopgap measure to try and get additional aden since overland routes weren't being used the way that i would like them to be used. so we got to figure out a way to get that aid in the pier if it's not the pier, we just need more overland to get things into gaza will see if they can get that together and make that peer work or what message congresswoman does it send for the us to green light right now, one of the largest ever weapons packages to israel, about 18 billion for some 50 f 15 fighter jets at the same time that israel, according to us officials is not completely heating president biden's push to let in more aid and to reduce civilian casualty yeah. >> well, obviously there's a lot of swirl around weapons right now. >> we never liked to have these conversations and public allies always prefer to have them in private. but i think it's important that some of the biggest parts of the sales are things that aren't going to be delivered for three or four years. it's just going to take an unbelievable amount of time. it's it's not a today issue. and i think that's why my guess, the foreign affairs committee approved it. so that understanding from what's in it, but of course, we've been in the same situation for for months now where there's been shot across the bow related to weapons, bb was talking about it today. it's not how we prefer to do business with an ally i want to get to another sensitive issue while i have you, congresswoman president biden today has taken some dramatic new action creating a pathway. >> eventually, the city lesson ship for about 500,000 undocumented spouses here in the united states, and about 50,000 children. republican say this move will simply incentivize the illegal immigration. first of all, do support this move by the president today? >> well, look, i mean, i think everyone knows that the southern border or immigration system is not working. i don't think that takes a genius to understand. no one's proud of what's happening at the southern border. no one feels like as a nation of immigrants, we have an immigration policy that's working so i think today's action was sort of more like another kind of small little piece of the story when what we really need is for reasonable democrats and reasonable republicans to get in a room and actually negotiate something comprehensive something that not just addresses a spouse here or whatever, but our farmer for our desperate need of vetted legal labor are businesses. i mean, we've got a ton of openings for legal vetted labor. so i just think that it's more of the same and we had a deal that we were working on. we had a deal that we were negotiating mr. trump didn't want that deal because he likes it as an election issue. but the truth is comprehensive immigration plan is the only way to really do this and have it stick. >> so today's action, i just that's not how i would go about doing these little salami slice is we need a comprehensive package yeah, that's so important in the wake of yet another mass shooting in your home state of michigan, congresswoman senate republicans blocked an effort to pass legislation banning what are called bump stocks. what steps do you support right now to address the issue of gun violence? on america well, look, i think, you know, in in michigan, i represented oxford, michigan where we had a high school shooting, michigan state university where we had a shooting on campus and then i use to represent rochester hills where we just had ten wounded at a splash pad the number one killer of children in america is gun violence in our communities by suicide in our schools by accident and so i just think a reasonable country goes after the number one killer of children, and it should be a non-partisan thing. >> what we did in michigan was start on those areas of common agreement, we pass legislation on safe storage. you have someone under 18 living in the house you gotta store it and not you're going to be charged if they commit a crime with that weapon. we prosecuted successfully the mother and father of the oscar oxford high school shooting because they basically gave the child a gun so it's accountability and the gun owners i know, of course, understand that. >> it's red flag laws. if someone's having a mental illness breakdown, we you should be able to go to a court and get a document that allows you to take those weapons away temporarily, then universal background checks. i don't even know why we're not talking why we're talking about this anymore. if you go to a gun show or you're buying a gun on the internet, you got to go through a background check just like if you go to one of our big box stores. so those to me we passed her in michigan where big second amendment state that isn't easy. we did it with bipartisan support and that's what we should be doing at the federal level, like a reasonable country, the cares about our kids. >> such an important issue, representative, elissa slotkin, thanks so much for joining us thank you and just ahead, dramatic testimony on capitol hill today, the head of boeing acknowledged in shortcomings and apologizing as the company faces new allegations of skirting, safety protocols tomorrow, cnn celebrate juneteenth with special performances by john legend how do you build smokey robinson? >> we still have a lot of work to do. >> juneteenth celebrating freedom and legacy tomorrow at ten on cnn from medium rare well done so many ways to save life ready while it happy, that's 365 both foods market to take her appointment and 30 minutes. >> you got one. >> remember? i don't want surgery for my duper trends contraction to i don't want well, wait for my contracture to get worse. three, i want to treatment with minimal downtime for i want to non-surgical treatment. >> good boy. >> and five and 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right now, two of the west's most dangerous adversaries are out there on the same turf and strengthening their alliance russia's vladimir putin is north korea for talks with kim jong-un. >> cnn's bryan todd is on the story for us. brian kim pulled out all the stops to personally welcome putin. he certainly did wolf vladimir putin touch down in pyongyang just a short time ago, there was pageantry that only the north korea koreans could pull off, but also signs of a growing partnership that's very worrisome to the us at the pyongyang airport, flowers are at the ready as the russian president's plane taxis to stop. the red carpet is rolled out i'm john owns trolls up confidently to greet his vip guest he takes a few more strides toward the plane and patiently weights. finally, vladimir putin descends red staircase and the two strong men embrace putin, greeting the dictator who is 31 years younger. they exchanged pleasantries and levs through a translator putin received keeps his bouquet. kim shows putin to his limma, a large escort of motorcycle security personnel trail the motorcade in a v formation they travel past large russian banners and portraits of putin lining the avenues. the limos pull to a stop at the guest house putin exits and kim seems eager to show him around the smiling north korean host escorts putin through an ornate lobby. the pageantry for this overnight arrival, just part of what's being observed by intelligence agencies from east asia to eastern europe this is a very serious trip. this cooperation between north korea and russia is unprecedented. >> cooperation that us officials menchu, no words and describing north it's korea is providing significant munitions to russia and other and other weapons for use in ukraine munitions that us and south korean officials say include ballistic missiles, rocket launchers, and millions of artillery rounds that have already been used to devastating effect on the battlefields of ukraine analysts expect that lethal pipeline to continue following this meeting. unfortunately, we got sc very soon. all of these items in the battlefield in ukraine and in missiles that are pounding civilian infrastructure in ukraine, it's unclear exactly what kim is getting in return for sending putin those weapons. but experts say it is clean what kim wants. >> that is perhaps, the scariest thing of all, because what they want is really high-tech high technology, which they can use four satellites, which they can use for nuclear submarines in which they can use four intercontinental ballistic missiles. >> russia and north korean officials have repeatedly denied that they're trading arms and technology. one analyst says, for both of these autocrats, the messaging from pyongyang is important and somewhat deceptive. >> they want to project strength. they want to really show fear in the western democracies because they both suffer from one major weakness. and that's internal instability in particularly kim jong-un is suffering from his failed promises to the korean people in the north that nuclear weapons would bring peace and prosperity parody and that has not done so while it's limited what the us and its allies can do to stop or interrupt the military cooperation between putin and kim analyst david maxwell believes what they can do is a better job of public messaging on this to hit home more than they have wolf, the idea that putin and then kim are very, very weak. >> in reality, bryan todd report and good report, brian, thank you very much. and we'll be right back they are unpredictable sleeping giants, every volcano has it's own personal if we don't understand them, they are windows into heart of our planet lives will be lost. >> violent earth, which liev schreiber, sunday at nine on cnn. >> one second. you feel safe then the police are on their way. wow. >> he's still do well done. viv you got the presence, the balloons, and the raptor now how about something to put a smile on your face 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briefing that you did. this is in march of 2020, and you had to correct the record even if the president was talking, how challenging is by sent to myself, i have a responsibility to preserve my own personal integrity and responsibility to the american public. so when i walked up to the podium, i said here it goes. dr. fauci, the president joe said that i'd roxy chloroquine is the end-all. the answer is no, and the evidence that you're talking about john is anecdotal evidence that was painful to me to have to do that. but there was no doubt that i had to do it. i mean, it wasn't like well, maybe you shouldn't maybe there was no doubt that i had to do it. thank you very much he thought president trump would be angry, but listened what happened behind the scenes. but then he called me in his office. once someone who one that asked me another question and he was on looking at three different televisions and he says, my god these ratings are amazing. they're better than cable, they're better than the better the network, the president, it's no, it's no secret. i'm not divulging a secret about the president. he was very, very fixated on image and ratings. and he thought that the the amount of attention that was given to the press briefings was really terrific. his comment was, wow, do you see those ratings? and my feeling wasn't ratings are in the middle of a pandemic. what are we talking about? ratings and sanjay, what more did dr. >> fauci tell you in this interview? >> well, we've talked a lot about his his overall career, as you know, wolf, he worked for seven presidents, 54 years in public service. >> a lot of this sort of revolved around hiv aids. i mean, he was that changed his life, changed a lot of people's lives obviously, but july of 1981, when they first started to get evidence that there wasn't this new virus that was being transmitted. that's where he decided to spend a lot of his life. and we talked a lot about what happened during covid and a lot of people got to know dr. fadi xi during covid, including the antagonistic parts, people really going after him. a lot of that happened during hiv aids as well. we'll fly. you may remember they were burning effigies of dr. fauci at that time. but he says he referred to that time period as good trouble, meaning the activists were trying to get things done whereas now he thinks it's just people trying to create trouble for no good reason. so he really drew a distinction. wolf again, seven presidents he got the presidential medal of freedom in 2008. i've interviewed him several times over the last 20 years. zika ebola, anthrax, h1n1, hiv aids. and obviously covid it's kind of a remarkable career and we did this interview in his house wolf and washington he's lived in that house since 1977. so he's been very stable and public health and in his community as well he's written about this wonderful new memoir that he's just released. dr. sanjay gupta. thanks very much. and to hear even more of 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