welcome the whole story i'm anderson cooper since its launch, a little more than two years ago, the james webb space telescope has been we capturing some of the most spectacular and enlightening images of outer space. >> we've ever seen its mission is to study every phase in the history of our universe. the data and the images from web are helping some of our smartest scientific minds answer some of the most intriguing questions of our time like, where did we come from? is time travel possible? and are we alone for the past? it's two years, cnn space correspondent kristin fisher has followed two teams of scientists as they were awarded precious minutes with the james webb telescope in an effort to answer these very quiet what they found is breathtaking and groundbreaking the james webb space telescope precedented in science and scale this is effectively the best time machine that we've ever created james webb is revealing the cosmic story where do we come from? are we alone in the universe? these are big questions unlocking the secrets that we never knew well over 10,000 individuals, $10 behind schedule we're by det there's thousands of ways this can go badly. and one way it goes right james, when begins a voyage back to the birth of the universe and those other worldly images displayed on a cosmic tapestry this is a historic moment for humanity and i feel we are super privilege that we can actually see this hopefully we'll be able to see a reflection of ourselves and to learn more about where we came from replacing our reality by rekindling a childlike imagination we are all astronomers as a kid, as an adult, you look up, you say, what's out there i can trace back my interest in space to a grade two assignments where the teacher asked me to do a project on the planets of the solar system. >> the fascination of things, not out of this earth for the rest of my life. that continued to stick with dan milli savile of inches astronomer and assistant professor at purdue university. >> he's also still just a kid at heart wow, i could watch it all for me. >> it's the energy and the so that he makes in his voice. but just like the away wow i love it that enthusiasm is the fuel that drives dan's curiosity to answer the mysteries of the universe. one star at a time do you remember the first time that you heard about cassie appiah, a it had to have been one of the first de it's very likely that that came up like lindsey is dan's wife and casio pia a or cache is a remnant of a supernova explosion that occurred about 11,000 light-years away but as the remnants of this massive star race through the milky way, light from the explosion only reached earth about 340 years ago, making the youngest known supernova remnant in our galaxy. >> can you explain how cassie has kind of followed you, inspired you, maybe even haunted you over the last few years yes. >> yes. i'll just say this i laughed with my wife that my phone now has more pictures of casi than my dog on a disgruntled wilbur is still proud of dad, who would become one of the first astronomers ever to be awarded precious observation hours on the most powerful telescope ever built why is it important to study the origin story of stars? we all want to know where we came from and how we got here on earth or a fox and tay attend them are part of dan's research team made up of 40 scientists from around the world our target is cassio pia because it is so young that is still dominant. the emission that we see comes from the material that was expelled in the explosion you may be familiar with the phrase we are all star dust. that is because stars produce the elements needed to form places like the earth and the solar system, and even life and that is why it is important for us to understand how stars evolve and how stars die, and how they feed back that star dust to the rest of the universe. >> it's because of these stellar explosions that we're here today the iron in our blood, the calcium in our bones, the oxygen that we breathe and they're just these incredible displays, a fireworks and colors and knots and bubbles and all sorts of exciting thing things that are going on until now. dan and his team had to rely on optical telescopes like the hubble telescope, which only captures visible light at shorter wavelengths but the webb telescope can capture radiation from longer infrared wavelengths that are invisible to the human eye. that allows astronomers to pure through dust particles back in time to the moment when some of the oldest stars in the universe were born as the universe expands light is stretched and hubble can only see light out to a certain distance. >> and that is why we needed to build a bigger telescope. to see beyond the depth that hubble can observe. to the very edge of the universe. and what you're looking at is light that left these stars and galaxies when they were babies, just a couple of hundred million years after the big bang. and so that light is just reaching us here on earth today so think of a chapter book of my life, where i went to kindergarten. >> there's an artwork. >> now imagine that chapter book were the first few years have been those are vital developmental years that really set in flay. >> what happens later in time. so webb will be able to access those earliest stages so that's why in a way, it's, it's a time of shape that's why it's a time machine leading roles, best dr. thomas or buccal or doctor z, was one of the top administrators at nasa working on web, and he more than anyone knew just how much was at stake. if you add everybody ahp was really touched that telescope as well over 10,000 individual and three space agency's in many different countries. >> and the price tag, it's a hefty one but it's about 10 billion. >> it was behind schedule it was over budget. was there ever any point in time where you thought gosh, i just don't know if this telescope is gonna get off the ground jwst had multiple near-death experiences. >> we made mistakes and be at challenges and frankly, the i asked an independent we view to actually answer the question as said, worth the wing considering how much we're struggling, there's only a few times in the history of i astronomy where we look at the sky in entirely new way for the first time and that happened with copernicus had happened with galileo. and it's happening james webb space telescope and for me, data leap of understanding, not leap of science. that's coming with don is just amazing coming up. the story of our universe is about to be rewritten but who will be the author i wonder what your message would be. two people who are considering putting in some proposals to the webb space telescope. >> my responses have added later meet a team of scientists close to finding life 1 billion miles away it's shocking to be honest i thought we had a plan for dan. he was set to go to the senior living community, right by my house then her friend suggested 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closer to home the wonderful thing about web is that it's a facility that's open to anyone all over the world. >> let's see for today, i know the schedule is a little bit different than usual. >> christine, can oversees the proposal process at scsi, the space telescope science institute at johns hopkins university, home to webb's mission control. >> what sort of credentials so you have to have we try not to focus on credentials because we really want to select based on science project theoretically could anybody submit a proposal? yes, that's correct that's because nasa removed the identities of the almost 3,000 proposals that we're submitted in peer reviewed for webb's first two years in operation. so you don't know their qualifications? that's their gender, their age went from that's right. >> the reviewers don't know who wrote any of the proposal the thing that really stands out to me is just how open the webb telescope is, how it is anybody essentially can apply for time on the webspace let's go, i wonder what your message would be. two people who are considering putting in some proposals to the webb space telescope. my responses have at it we want to bring the world community into this. >> it was the world community that put this together for dan and his team, the waiting was the worst part so you wait and you wait and you wait. >> and then what happened? >> and then the email comes in and i remember i didn't open it. i let it hover there for a little bit as soon as i saw, we have approved your vesicle. >> yeah. >> i know. i screamed a loud i did my happy dance and i immediately shared the news. >> yes, we did it congratulations. it's the holy grail for you in terms of the data that you get back from cassie wow, well, we want to understand the story behind this star web is the missing clue. >> the final piece to the puzzle we need to understand the story of cassie and casa, maybe part of a larger puzzle, piecing together the story three of our universe. >> james webb begins of the universe well, the world watch the successful 2021 christmas day launch of the james webb telescope there were still some anxious moments during its first few days base, we had 30 days of terror because we had to watch this entire spacecraft unfold bit by bit. it is so large that we work for not able to as a whole fitted into a rocket and launch it. >> we have to come up with as a hallie calm design that allows us to follow that sort of like an oregon me, each of the 18 mirrors acts as its own independent telescope. >> stretching 21 feet across web is seen further back in time and with greater resolution than ever before. and that's a relief for nasa because there was no backup plan it had to be absolutely perfect because there was no way that we could go 1 million miles. and perform ophthalmology on it to correct its vision if you think about the webb space telescope you should think of it as basically two parts. it's a telescope that's really big and it's telescope that's really cold cold because in order to get the most crisp and distant infrared images of deep-space, webb needed to be parked in line with the earth. a million miles away. it could be shielded from the sun's radiation. >> so engineers designed to five layered sunshield. each layer the size of a tennis court, made up of a mylar tight membrane. the thickness of a human hair, the temperature drop between those five layers 600 degrees fahrenheit aesthetically, it's a funny look and telescope, right? >> but from the standpoint of science and engineering, it's beautiful scientifically beautiful, but visually to the untrained eye. >> the first images were lost in translation you. >> cannot say the sky in infrared, no matter how hard you try. >> so translating that into a color scale that is as consistent as possible with what we believe a stair and frankly, what we're doing is we're putting the de out so you too can pick up that data and do your own artistic interpretation. >> what do you see when you see this mess being mess? >> you're a housewife with a very interesting hobby yes. using nothing but a gaming computer and basic photo editing software amateur image processor, duty schmidt's work caught the eye of a young graduate student working on a hubble telescope project. >> i was scrolling the web looking for representations of a different supernova remnant. and i was really struck by the ones that she made fast forward years later with the launch of a web. she really came to mind is somebody that would be perfect duty. i'm looking forward to see what you can do. >> to help bring these gray scale images to life so when you get data from the webb space telescope, it comes back immediately looking kind of black and white and not all that spectacular because it's an infrared telescope. >> what do you then do with that data? >> you're only going to see a few little dots where the stars are i'm pulled them into photoshop and i can align them a little bit clearer. rotate them and then give it some color. >> there's an intimacy that's developed with the data when you start to make these color composites these have scientific value as well. >> these images are representations of the, of these energies that are coming in the infrared. so we assign each energy field der, color and we put them together to produce these beautiful images. so they look beautiful, but they also contain a lot of information. >> so what do you say to people who see these images and say, these aren't real, these are fake, these are, these are photoshopped well, i mean, they have to be photoshopped or you wouldn't see them. >> the picture that you talk with your phone yesterday off your family, who perhaps you brighten that up a little bit because you want to make sure everybody see stop babies, smile or knots photoshopping from scratch. and this this, and that we're taking the data and trying to come up with the best representation to explain what the data actually mean. if you don't like it, do it yourself. because the data the underlying data are there for you it's been a decades-long voyage for dan and pursued cassie. i've always imagine what this place looks like, but when we brought him to the space telescope's mission control in baltimore, his emotions got the best of it. >> this is the chelsea will house flight control room and breadth it, brought you to tears i'm just country astronomer from the middle west and here i am at mission operations control of the webb telescope, sunshield. that side pointed to us as it should be. >> now, it means so much or something that i've worked so hard towards to be able to experience it in person coming up one of saturn's many moons could let me the answer to finding life beyond her what's useful about enceladus is it spewing its guts out into outer space they are unpredictable sleeping giants every volcano has its own personality. >> or if we don't understand them, they are windows into the heart of our 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you get started with your idea called now 800s, 7100, 020 the, discovery of just one bacteria on mars or any other body of the solar system would indicate that the whole chain of evolutions cosmic chemical, and biological is it work everywhere in that case, the creation of life anywhere in the universe? would be more of the rule than the exception orson welles is soliloquy and nasa's documentary who's out there punctuated at trending discussion among other cosmic thinkers know that out there is 1 million other civilizations they all look fabulously ugly and they're all a lot smarter than us a half century later, the question is still out there one of the things that the webb space telescope is hoping to answer is the question of, are we alone in the universe well, think about it if the universe is as big as we have been told, and the james webb telescope scopus, revealing to us do i believe that there's life out there? >> yes, i do. >> that's a bold statement from nasa administrator. and do you think the webb space telescope is going to be the instrument that proves it at least it will get us closer to the answer and an answer maybe on the horizon in the form of tiny microbes on an icy moon, 800 million miles away what's useful about enceladus is it's spewing its guts out into outer space, never became a news story. >> a chris klein is a planetary scientist at the southwest research institute in san antonio those guts spilling out into space come from one of saturn's more on assuming moon i'd love to talk about what we see above us enceladus. do you remember the first time that you saw it and became intrigued by it? >> i first saw it when the cassini mission returns some startling images off of the cassini spacecraft, the cassini spacecraft was launched by nasa and the european space agency in 1997 it's 20 year mission to unravel the mysteries surrounding our solar system's ringed planet saturn and it was during these flybys that enceladus became the newly minted star of saturn's many moons we. learned that it's an icy moon, probably has a deep ocean of liquid water and enceladus is one of the few bodies in the solar system that are geologically active. and by geology, you mean volcanoes exactly. but unlike on earth, where our volcanoes erupt, molten rocks on enceladus, we find that the magma is actually a salty liquid water ocean underneath the icy crust it's kinda like if you stick out your tongue when it's snowing and you can actually then collect some of that stuff as it falls back down. to the surface. >> let's talk about those plumes. can you compare this size of enceladus to the size of the plume it's shocking. we have no parallel for the scale of the eruptions on enceladus, because the gravity is only about 1% of earth's surface gravity and sought, we see eruptions that are thousands of miles into outer space that would be like cno volcano erupting on earth. >> and the debris flying almost halfway to the moon as we look up at enceladus, you can see all these markings, the tiger stripes, so to speak. what are those solidus has these giant cracks in it south polar region, which we call the tiger stripes, because they look like the stripes in the back of a tiger and from these cracks, there are over 100 jets that are erupting along these cracks and into space. >> and they merge together to form a huge plume when we saw that bloom for the first time, i was shocked last year, toronto villanova a scientist at nasa goddard space flight center, only got a glimpse of the plume he was the recipient of just six minutes on web cycle one program to investigate enceladus did it work? you work fantastic. >> we saw the ice is on the surface and then you see the water plume blue and i was like, wow cosine is discovery of the plume later enhanced by those few minutes on web was visually spectacular. but they needed more one of the fears when we think about an object, you only find water and it's great. there's water, but there's nothing else so life requires all the other stuff. >> that other stuff is what scientists refer to as the building blocks of life when we think about life, we always think about the basic components we call it can ingredients the carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, and nitrogen that proportions will tell you how amicable a places for life one of the things that themselves is due and that's given us a favor of big favor by erupting all these materials from its ocean into space and then we can send our missions and our robots there to look at these molecules and get clues about the subsurface ocean de, water worlds out there, even in our own solar system, seeing whether there's emissions kind of bursts of water and organics started coming out from the inside of the ice are much more promising a pool of evidence that scientists are hoping to dive into but among those critical building blocks of life, there seemed to be one very crucial element missing until now phosphorus, it's what makes life possible when he's one of building blocks for dna the possibilities are kind of extraordinary here. >> but if you have an ocean, a salty ocean for a few billion here's maybe there's something alive imagine all those planners have also moons which are habitable. it defines the idea of habitability on the possibilities of life in a different dimension. >> we have one example of life anywhere right now it's life on earth. but if we were to find a second example of life on one of the moons in our solar system or someplace else? that would open up the possibilities all over the universe so this year glycine and villain nueva have teamed up as part of web cycle to program. >> and instead of six minutes, they'll have a full hour on web is sort of like finding that a ferrari runs well and you're you drive it like at 60 miles per hour. but then in cycle two, you could take this sucker up to like 200 miles per hour. >> so where is the finish line for finding life on enceladus or anywhere else in the universe it may be right here on earth the bottom of the ocean let's talk a little bit about hydrothermal vents. hydrothermal vents form wherever you have water in contact with hot rocks what's exciting about hydrothermal vents or hydrothermal systems is that their environments that create chemical energy sources were different kinds of molecules. those environments naturally produced food sources that could be harnessed by microbes or other forms of life and so do you think there's a similarity between what we find? >> nir hydrothermal vents here on earth. and what we might find on enceladus, there could be a similarity now scientists are discussing what that means for the habitability of enceladus. is there the potential to support life? are the conditions? right for life as we know it every living thing on earth has evolved from the lowly, the invisibly small micro here on our planet microbes have adapted to survive the most hostile conditions arid deserts, the frozen mla is in trenches and thousands of tons of pressure in the ocean deeps and that is the holy grail, right microbes life on another heavenly body right? >> that's, that's the holy grail. and we're searching because ultimately it comes back to us coming up. you can see how it glows after a year of waiting, dan and his team finally get some answers about our youngest supernova explosion and the birth of our universe. >> beautiful when you finally first saw this image, the image that webb took of cache, what did you think? i was blown away? >> weeknight today tonight are 360 new reporting get the full story then we'll to fight how important is that? be unafraid, you have reasonable grounds to believe that alleged war crimes have been committed of compassion. >> and that's real trauma. would you have been through seek truth is israel in full control of its territory and go with us? >> since for answers, takes you. anderson cooper 360, weeknight today on cnn. >> hey, mom, how many should i decorate a 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pay attention unravel the mysteries of casio pia, a two captivated audience at the inaugural james webb telescope science conference in baltimore. >> readjust. >> we're really surprised with these ring-like or baba like structure. >> and these are mostly the questions that he got is, what are those? >> there's a lot of hopes and expectations with this we've been along for the ride with professor dan for over a year and we were at purdue university when he unveiled webb's first images of casie to his team. wow. >> okay. >> it was thrilling. >> my hand was literally shaking on the mouse wow but real-time discovery can take a long time to process cassie is still has many mysteries and web is the way for us to unlock those mysteries but to be able to do so. i recognize there's gonna be a lot of work in the days, weeks, months, maybe even years ahead to unpack everything that we've seen today. >> so professor dan and his team spent a year peering through spatial dust and data to investigate our universe is youngest supernova explosion when somebody looks at an image of casie, they should be recognizing that that is the remains of a star that exploded about 11,000 years ago. but the light first arrived approximately 340 years ago and this debris field is sharing all the building blocks in the raw materials for life and it is this debris field, this explosion of science and art through the eyes of web that may allow us to rewrite the first few chapters of our universe we're finding out things about the first galaxies that we never knew. >> all of these stars and dust and the asteroids then all of this is bumping into each other. and in the course of all that time this magnificent universe has been created we've been getting images and data back from web. >> any information that you've learned about that is really started to alter or change your understanding of the universe. >> oh gosh, it has been a wild ride. what we're finding is with these deepest galaxies, they're already bigger than we anticipated. it's forcing us to review our long-held ideas of galaxy evolution. since the birth of the universe. and i think we're in store for a lot of surprises. >> i really took a sharp intake of breath when i saw this new yeah what if i'm a little clamp, becky i really am. i'm a little misty eyed. i didn't expect to be effected this way. >> why is it so important to find that first slightly universe, bint i history book off the universe of which at the very last page, you and i are accessing its the toddler picture of the universe. we've never seen it. >> but those early cosmic childhood chapters are complex and patience is not only virtuous but necessary. >> there's spectroscopy, hundreds of images that all had to be stitched together. mosaic done a very fine way, and then to go from this kinda crazy image to an understanding from the star that was there before what? it was doing in the stages leading up to its final death and tremendous explosion. >> it's an autopsy of this dead star opening in an image for the first time and seeing something that you do not know what to expect and seeing aspects of that image that just blow you away and that is the beginning of an adventure that will take years to explore follow-up observations of what is that, what is this? how does that work? >> everybody is amazed we are answering questions today we've always wanted to answer, but we're answering questions that we don't even know what the questions are. >> so when you finally first saw this image, the image that webb took of cache what did you think? >> i was blown away so walk me through exactly what we're seeing in this image. remember, this is a violent explosion it's enormous. to give you some sense of scale to go from one side to another. takes approximately 12 years. so that should give you a sense of physical tremendous. the red is mostly the star before the explosion. the white is mostly the star is explosion. >> then we have this mysterious reus thing in the center that kind of draws in the eye the green, and then we've been calling it the green monster. >> that was a source of mystery for a long time. and we've been working hard with our team to make our best estimate about understanding what that is. >> i know you guys are still digging through all the day hey, there, but so far, what has webs image of cassie been able to tell you about cassie that you didn't already know. >> so the key findings for casie include the distribution of gas as a result of the explosion and new understanding about how this explosion produces and destroys dust dust as the building blocks for solar systems, planets and stars do you feel like you got the answers that you were looking for or has this just generated a whole bunch more questions for you? you and your team? >> there's this term in austria, the walk about. you get lost an a journey to learn yourself. it almost has been happening this with cassie. these images can now serve as treasure maps for follow-up observations let's to look even more closely. >> that's the process which is research and exploration. >> the answer will come from it. >> sometimes very different than what we predicted at the beginning. but the processes, what makes us human dan milli salvage and chris kline both scientists awarded precious time with webb, both searching for answers in deep space hey leisure to meet yes. but they'd never met until now when we brought them to the telescope's mission control. >> dance working on cassie, chris is working on on solidus ends of the planetary spectrum. >> dan has seen the web missions operations center, but chris, what do you think? >> oh, this is spectacular. this is where the magic happens. >> you all are part of a very rare group people who have been allowed to use the telescope so far in cycle one. and now cycle two, does it. >> i don't know standing here, do you really feel? >> although the weight of that chris, i feel fortunate we have these questions that have been burning in our minds for the past several months now. and i'm at a loss for words how to exactly describe how i feel again, this has been decades in the making for my career you talk about the emotion of this place. and i was so touched by your reaction when you first walked in here and got to see the web mission operations center for the first time where do you think that emotion came from? >> oh, yes. >> that opportunity to be able to not just see the control room, but go inside sit with the flight ops team the night before i had spoken with my parents and they were so supportive of where i'd gotten two in life and it all really overwhelmed me in the most happiest of ways. i did your dad say to you? >> who is happy for me and there was a real sense of pride that came out in his voice for me to be able to get where i am to be in this kind of place where i'm doing so and so happy about it it's it's been a real ride, i guess coming up next the effect the 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we get here and are we alone questions that if answered will bring us a new perspective on science? >> a different outlook on life and a resounding hope for the future i heavy burden for just one telescope, decker large lift off from a tropical rain forest to the edge of time itself. james, with that begins a voyage back to the birth of the universe for two years the james webb telescope has been unveiling, our cosmic past. >> a time machine, shedding light on deep-space, dark matter and the beginning of time a light from there has been in the universe coming our way for over 13 billion years. >> that's how far we are on. >> do you think webb's going to find it? >> oh, absolutely mirror segments for coated with a thin layer of pure but maybe the james webb space telescope is more than a time machine maybe, it's. also a reflection of us and our story seeing these images gives me a sense of hope and optimism thousands of people from around the planet were able to come together and build this machine for the sake of humanity to increase our knowledge and to make the planet better place oh, look, okay, let's see. let's see how when you look up at the night sky, do you see the same thing? or has it has it changed a bit for you? >> i still have the same sense of wonder that emotional response that the universe is so big and it's only able to reveal its beauty in subtle moments that i can comprehend. >> oh my gosh, that includes looking king at the moon i never get tired of it. how many times we've all looked at the moon and it's still looks new to me. every time that i looked at oh, and it's a perfect phase. oh, you're in for a treat when they had this philosophical moment, i wasn't this telescope in the middle of the desert and at the camp in chile. >> and you can see every single star and you feel so insignificant because you understand that you are speculum dustin these humongous universe but the moment if philosophical happened ten minutes later after seeing all that is like, you understand how significant you are to understand your insignificance that was as a good moment is kind of like rekindling your childhood, right? because we're all very curious when you first come out and explore this world. it's nice to just look out into to the universe or look out into the solar system. and remember that curiosity i see it in my three-year-old sound. >> the questions that he asks. and i think it's curiosity. those is always there, but we just get busy in our daily lives and we don't always stop to think about these questions. now what is basically giving us these images of the universe and it's, i think making everyone stop again and ponder the vastness of the universe and our place in it. >> it's bringing out that childlike wonder that we all have weight. >> it's happening i know when he's really excited, when he starts like we kind of like or rock back and forth a little bit i do do that, right? yes. oh my my gosh. >> oh, my god, lindsay. oh, my god oh my god god. >> there's a there's a momentum that gets started and a lot of screaming, i guess it's like everyone is being taken on a trip to all these wonderful places with his telescope previously, they were trypsin the imagination do you remember the moment that you saw? the very first images from the webb space telescope my reaction was what you would expect. >> the excitement of a little kid, but let me tell you the president's reaction we showed the images to him first joe biden was like a little kid. >> we're looking back more than 13 billion years what is get about the webb telescope that makes a nasa administrator a president of the united states turn into little kids. it's the sense of discovery discovery unites us. it excites us it challenges and then inspires us never in my wildest dreams did i ever anticipate that we would have something this spectacular. >> the mesmerizing, the beauty, the tremendous value that have come from these observations. this is a generational instrument. this is a thrilling time it's a defining moment because we just have never had this kind of resource with webb in space, been able to probe. never before seen regions of the data space in the infrared throughout the solar system and the universe james webb, i think, is revealing the cosmic story that spans from galaxy seasons stars, all the way to planets and moons. and we're still writing that story the, scientists, you met in this hour, crystalline is scheduled to use the james webb telescope this summer he's planning to study the water plumes and subsurface oceans. >> i'm one of saturn's moons, which many scientists believe could be the most promising

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