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cleaner, and enjoy a spotless house for $19 i voted buttons like dragging my rainbow qizan. it's like your generation has evolved past traditional political symbols. and there's room for everyone. >> yeah, first, chins, puke lane, most white taken, close captioning brought to you by meso book.com if. >> you, or, a loved one have mesothelioma will send you a free book to answer questions you may have call now and we'll come to you 808 to 14000 we're back, we're another hour of laura coates live and begin with a major moment in the making for donald trump in his reelection campaign. tomorrow we're going to see trump exercise or see whether he still has the grip. pete says he has probably does on the republican party in the most remarkable way. and why remarkable? >> because at one point it may have seemed completely impossible but tomorrow trump is going to huddle with house and senate republicans just a few feet from the capital. >> that same capital and his supporters stormed on january 6. miss kinda blew my mind to think about this would be his first public visit to the hill since that day, nearly 3.5 years ago, it's not surprising that think about the first time i'm publicly now as critics are calling it a return to the scene of the crime, but his supporters, whether all ears and some of the lawmakers that he will speak to them tomorrow ahead at one point, suggested that they were completely done with him after january 6, and that includes, by the way, then majority leader mitch mcconnell the mob was fed lies. they were provoked by the president and other powerful people and they tried to use fear and violence has stopped a specific proceeding of the first branch of the federal government which they did not like now, that was mcconnell then with this, this was mcconnell today i support him. >> he's been earned the nomination by the voters all across the country and of course, i'll be at the meeting tomorrow. >> well it's not. just mcconnell who seems to have changed his mind back in 2021, 51% of republicans strongly disapprove at the mob's attack on the capitol. but today that number has gone down to just 32%. now over on the house, sayyed speaker mike johnson has hyping the meeting with trump and he says it's about plotting the first 100 days of trump's agenda if trump wins but what if trump doesn't win well, today are puerto as speaker johnson about avoiding a repeat of january 6 are you committed or have you spoken to him about it basically, not not doing anything like that again and commit getting to respecting the sort of american tradition of peaceful transfer. of course, he respects that and we all do and we've all talked about ad nauseam. we're excited to welcome to president trump backup of course, he does while joining me now former 2024 gop presidential candidate and former governor of arkansas esa hutchinson, governor. thank you so much for joining us this evening. i mean you heard from speaker johnson just now was taping of of course, he does support the before. there's the power. obviously is belied by what we've seen in the past them as commentary. but speaker johnson, governor actually helped shape the legal arguments for keeping trump in power back in 2020. and in fact, the new york times called john it's in quote, the most important architect of the electoral college. objections. >> so i wonder, do you take johnson and trump at their words, this election cycle? >> speaker johnson has grown into his position. you can see that by calling the devote for support for ukraine, where it was stymied, he brought it to the floor for a vote and he cobbled together even democrat votes, republican votes to have that success. yes and so these are maturing and growing decisions that he has made. this meeting tomorrow is one truly about the policy, what they want to be able to campaign on this fall, which is going to be focusing on immigration enforcement. it's going to be talking about the economy. and i think the membrane herzl be encouraging former president trump, stick with that message and get off the angry, get off the chaos, get off the fear mongering that really cost to the republicans vote and so i think that will be honest discussion that is happening tomorrow. >> well, let's assume he has indeed matured into that position enroll by the way, part of that was by getting by partisan support. and surely one is not going to maintain that endeavors. you just mentioned, if he's not going to admit that or say that downs trump does not in fact, has not demonstrated that he believes in a transition of power. do you think it will be possible for speaker johnson to keep trump on the line that you just spoke about? >> well speaker johnson has certainly shown that he is his own person there but there's going to be divided opinion about it tomorrow and i am very worried about the election deniers. i'm worried about their view of january 6 and how it is changed, but that is the reality of it and this is more about the future and this is a little bit like it for some of them, they're a shotgun wedding where there trump is the leader. he is he controls the apparatus of the party and therefore, he's going to be the nominee, therefore, is to march with him whether they like it or not. and so they're binding together to win in november because whether you like president trump or not, you want to be able to win public and seats in the house and in the senate both. so it's very pragmatic and the choices that are being made right now, i think there'll be some honest discussions, but also be some real glossing over of what happened on january 6. and some of the controversies of the past what might be politically pragmatic also could read the electrode is particularly disingenuous because many remember what was said back on january 6, but i understand the idea of being practical. >> i am curious is the shotgun wedding analogy. you think what's motivating someone like senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, who famously ridiculed who's ready ridiculed by trump and has ready killed in the past. >> he'll be at tomorrow's meeting and he is saying that he will in fact vote for trump, but he is stepping down from leadership the end of this year. >> what is mcconnell gain from endorsing trump is it? >> the idea of the republican's a rising tide will lift all their boats well that is exactly the quandary that i find myself and all republicans that believe in republican principles our distressed by this. i mean, some of them are ardent supporters of donald trump, but there's a vast number including senator mcconnell and others that would have preferred a different nominee. but the people, the voters said no donald trump is going to be the nominee this year. i fought against that. i challenged that we lost in that. he is the nominee. so now, what do you do? and of course, senator mcconnell and other said, we're team players that voter said, he's our choice. and so they're signing up for it. and that's where i have the analogy of a shotgun wedding is not necessarily a happy de, it's a forced marriage in some some of those instances. but they're going to be able it's it is pragmatic and i don't think it should deserve all of the criticism because they make that choice, because they see republicans solutions better than what joseph biden is offering. >> governor as actions and thank you so much for joining us thank you. >> good to be with you. >> thank you. with me now, former republican congressman joe walsh and also chug wrote check democratic strategist and former at&t senior adviser to bernie sanders presidential campaigns. all right, so i want to ask you because there are a lot of people who are going to be meeting with trump tomorrow. i mean, you don't have to be very old to remember a lot of their commentary and statements before i see you nodding as a beautiful active listener, but also, i think you would disagreeing in some respects, hutchinson was saying hey, laura, i love esa hutchison, god bless him. there's nothing pragmatic. this is not pragmatism. this is cowardice donald trump, laura has repeatedly said within the last three months that he will refuse to accept the results of an election. this selection, if he loses, he's doing it again pull us out of the context we're in three-and-a-half years ago for the first time in american history and american president lost an election and refuse to concede refused to participate in the peaceful transfer of power, and then tried to overthrow that election three-and-a-half years later, he's the leader of the party. he's the nominee there is nothing pragmatic about what my former colleagues are doing. this is utter cowardice. >> now attack there are some who had listened to that and say, well, hold on. >> let's take away and i know it's a big takeaway. >> takeaway. the january 6 or the transfer of power and talk about the electoral maybe absence of extraordinary excitement the people have chosen who the nominee is going to be. you gotta get on board the actual ship. what do you say to that? is that part of was motivating even democrat who might not be as excited for their own candidate. but once the people have spoken about who has won these different elections, that's the person you got to get behind for january i've ever i think what we're looking at here is in the house, particularly what effect is donald trump have on all of these house members? we all know we talked about it. most of these house members are in safe districts. >> they have no worry about being beaten and being hooked up on donald trump don't hurt them a bit. >> january 6, none of the above it don't matter because 90% of our districts are safe, democrat are safe republicans. but what i'm going to be watching tomorrow is there's about 50 congressional seats that are marginal. they swing a little bit left or a little bit right, and we can win a lot of those as democrats we have a best shot of winning back the house than any other chamber of our government. that means the president or the senate. so tomorrow i'm going to be looking at what members are up next to him talking to him out front, talking to him because the democratic congressional campaign committee will probably use this as an advantage for them to say these members in a district that joe biden probably carried are all muddied up with donald trump. >> so how does the vote today to hold merrick garland in contempt in the house? how does that impact the ability for democrats to use that as fuel for their own campaigns. >> i think joe said it best as you showed the radicalism, they've admitted themselves, it's a do nothing congress. all they're doing is having these fake hearings trumped up charges on this and that and i think it plays in the democrats favor because we can say, look, they're not even worried about putting bread on your table, are making gas prices go down. they want to have these fake here. it's what do you think joe, i mean, when you look at the weapon, how has being called the weaponization of the government? >> this is now the third attorney general who has been held in contempt. previously. there was what eric holder also, of course, you had bill barr as ones and the past, they've all held the same statement of the executive privilege and that you got to have a legislative purpose, not a political campaign slogan. you want to run it at our expense how do you think the voters are going to see this? as a wash that whole system is corrupt, or that republicans are responsible. no, this is just the latest evidence of absolute chaos in this republican two years. laura, republicans promised us if they got control of the of the house they would enact retribution for donald trump. they've investigate everybody biden, they try to impeach biden garland everything. this is all retribution for trump and it's not going to play well with the american voters because they haven't been doing the people's business, taught me about, i mean, the one thing that i've an issue that came up this in the last couple of months, frankly, as the ivf issue, there are a lot of reproductive rights concerns among voters. >> obviously immigration, the economy, you can go down the list ivf was not on the bingo card for most people as an issue, democrats had a chance as well today, they blocked an ivf bill that was proposed by an alabama republican senator katie britt she says it was only blocked because democrats want to use fear tactics what's your stance? >> i think for democrats they know that abortion is an important issue for women all over the country. and what makes it different is it's a right that all women have had for a long time that was taken from them about their own body obvious is just another part of that upset. we want to take this away from you, something you already have when weren't focus groups, we don't hear about garlin, we don't hear about this, but we do hear about women mattered and hail about something being taken away from them, that, that was there right for a long time. and when you take something away from somebody politics that they're used to, avon, that's bad juju, it's a freedom issue. democrats would be smart to position this as a freedom issue, which used to be a republican issue back in the 90s when i first started. this is where we would argue back and forth all the time. we say government's good and i say freedom, there's and freedom that it's all on top of each other, all the other exactly i don't even take them well, i i thought you punch him. >> he didn't move more, but or less anyway, i don't encourage mines. joe, check stick around though ahead, president biden on the world stage facing divisions over ukraine, israel, and far-right? 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>> in perennial struggle between isolation as men are more internationalists stance is something which is being tested receiving this drama play out both in the united states are and as you said, around the world and europe as well we've been doing this since the 1790s. we've been trying to figure out in each given era how forward-leaning we should be and to what extent should we try to stay more on our side of the ocean? what history has taught us again and again and again is that isolationism does not in the end, work because we are inevitably drawn into conflicts that are about perhaps our values, perhaps our trade, perhaps both and i think what president biden is doing is acting in the role of a fairly traditional role in argument that really since 19 certainly since 1945 year that we would have in an atlantic alliance against a expansion, expansionist, authoritarian force in, based in russia, the soviet union wasn't really up for debate. it wasn't for some folks, always on the edge. >> but this is a more prevalent feeling right now. >> obviously because the republican nominee for president, why wonder we're also it must be prevalent. i mean, we're talking about the november election and 140 plus days at this point. and are our allies surely remember quite a few infamous comments and particularly when, when trump sided with putin over us intelligence at the helsinki summit, there's also the photo of an obstinate trump meeting with former german chancellor angela merkel at the 2018 g7. >> and then there was an awkward moment when he shoved the prime minister of months so now grow out of the way. >> biden is saying that world leaders tell him that they're worried about the return of trump. and i wonder how much do you think that weighs on the president? and this moment? >> i think it's extraordinarily, i think ways on him with a great heaviness i take president biden is my friend and i helped him when i can. so take this for what? it's worth joe biden is kind of like a upside down iceberg you see most of what's going on. i'm sure there's something we don't see, but by enlarge, most of us are icebergs and most of us is hidden. he sort of the opposite and when he quotes macron saying, in that early meeting when president biden said america is back and the french president says, but for how long totally rational question for europe to ask remember, the former president the republican nominee, rows in many ways to the republican nomination in 2016, not only on immigration, but on it a few will seemingly elective attack on nato. >> one of those things that was sort of, nato was not maybe for you was not a big subject in the minds of a lot of folks, but president trump in that era was insistent on countries paying their fair share. it was an interesting kind of isolationist argument. so what i think you see with president biden, who's returning to europe is a man who grew up in and has governed for a long time in a world of alliances and atlantic world that by enlarge has kept the peace after the greatest cataclysm and the history of warfare in the 1940s that began with an expansionist. you're for p and force taking countries that did not belong to them. this is not that complicated. this is pretty straightforward. it's not simple. these are complicated questions. but the basic point is if you don't confront aggression early history tells us, we confronted later in, in worse circumstances. and i know that's what breadth i mean, the eventuality of it is for boating best to think about and where and where this all leads were watching what's going to happen overseas. and you also have a new book, as i mentioned, it's called the call to serve and it showcases the life of president george hw bush in photos and you're actually in college station, texas commemorating what would have been his 100th birthday and i wonder as this election is looming, what are the lessons that we can learn from the 41st president? frankly, some would look and say, perhaps even today as republican party would not have highlighted him, even as the nominee i get he was are 41st president. what lessons can there be? >> there is no chance on god's are older, or if you're not religious, there's no chance on earth that george herbert walker bush would be nominated for president. or the republican party today, just know and we can have a really interesting conversation about whether the 43rd president could be i don't think he could. george hw bush, it represents a kind of dignity and a decency in the public arena that is not sentimental. it's not nostalgic it did just happen 20 minutes ago i used to think that we all used to think the 30 years was a long time until we all got a little older now it didn't seem like that long ago and one of the things that i think we have to remember about president bush is in context of the conversation we were just talking about he believed deeply in that same atlantic order. he's been an enormous amount of time working on our alliances managing the end of the cold war. he believed in what franklin roosevelt called the science of human relationships president biden believes the same thing much more george h w bush and president biden non foreign policy questions and on questions of demeanour have enormously as a great deal in common and so that's an interesting sayyed of, given where the parties are president bush born on this date and 1924 really had more in common to some extent, with the founding fathers culturally. >> than he does with our own euro. because he did embody a sense that however ambitious, however imperfect, we are you have to put in critical moments the country first and to his own political detriment. george hw bush did that tough competitor, tough campaigner, not a perfect man. but eight good and decent man who left the country in better shape than he found it. >> and i think that's the charge for all of us john meacham. >> thank you. what forward to reading the book. thank you so much. >> up next rfk jr. delivering a foreign policy speech tonight as he tries to have a breakout moment and the 2024 raise. >> but just who are the people who are supporting him? 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juniors supporters will join. we now see that national politics correspondent, even mechan, who has been covering the rfk jr. campaign. also, joe walsh and check rocher are back with me, eva, a lot of people for so welcome. glad you're here. >> a lot of people know rfk jr. for his were controversial stance is like on vaccines for example, but you've been talking to his supporters and i was surprised to learn that does factor in as largely as people might imagine. >> what do they support? it's not the central issue that comes up when you talk to these voters. there is an ideological diversity here. so you're getting former trump supporters, biden supporters, people who supported bernie sanders, people who sat out 2020 all together and just tonight he said in that speech, military spending is a constant strain on our nation's vitality. that is something that progressives might agree with. that is something with the increasingly isolationist wing of the republican party might agree with. and so democrats have two who are challenging him most forcefully have to contend with aspects of his campaign that do have some broad appeal another group that we're seeing attracted to the kennedy campaign, young voters, 22% among young voters, 18 to 34-years-old and many of them tell me that they learned of his campaign on youtube or tiktok, and then also there is an economic diversity here as well. more than 20% of voters making less than $50,000 a year, according to that same polling, laura. >> so i wonder if that surprises you and you were part of bernie sanders campaign, but think that brace and her supporters are going at some respect for rfk juniors that surprise you that was surprised me because they were fighting back against a system that was let's be clear. i have run bernie's campaign and i'm ride with biden less, but get clear on that. but the folks that were width birdie were folks that were you heard rig system. that's what we ran our campaign on. is that the system was rigged, not the look toro process, but that rich people getting richer and poor people were getting poor. so it was the thing that work, but even brought up three things that are really important in her reporting, which was great reporting is every one of those aspects of the demographics that she talked about, whether it was age or income or the folks that are drawn to him or the lowest propensity voters. when you ask who are the people that are supporting him, it's folks least likely to vote we're living in a moment where a lot of americans believed this system's broken, our political systems broken it is what garnered bernie a lot of appeal. it's what got help get trump elected and 16 rfk jr. appeals to the same thank and a lot of people who don't vote, but they're just, they're sick of both parties. they're sick of a broken political system. and so they tend to listen to demagogues like a trump or an rfk jr. yet it might be motivating for it. they have a candidate that they would like a, they might want to turn out to vote on that. i do wonder, is he on many ballots so far? >> so he is on six. he's qualified in six states officially on the ballot. california, utah, delaware, hawaii, oklahoma, and michigan. >> and of course we know michigan might be the most consequential if the lunch so far, because biden won michigan in 2020 by just about 150,000 foods he has submitted for ballot access in about a dozen other states, but this is something that we're monitoring closely so when you're looking at this check and thinking about him on the ballot, it's not enough to maybe win the race, obviously at the two 270. >> but you could have an impact if you are a biden campaign strategist, what are your concerns as opposed for somebody like rfk jr. compared to what would be as a trump supporter or trump campaign. >> we haven't seen the history of our elections since ross perot, some third part of a big effect like this. and so what you have to look at is the margin are so small in the states in michigan, the number he was so small, we just talked about and also has the largest concentration of muslim americans with what's going on with the gaza strip. so with people that do what i do for living, you're looking at the margins of the folks that we're putting people in categories. we know these people are crazy droppers. these people died in the wool joe biden, who is that little group in the middle. and how do we start talking to them earlier? 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for you it honestly, it just felt like a huge step in the wrong direction i mean, we did all of this. >> i mean, to change the names and to make it feel like a more inclusive environment for every student that wants to come and be a student at not just a mountain view, but at shenandoah county public schools and it just felt like we were part of a bigger political agenda that shouldn't have any play base in the schools it's a pretty extraordinary step to decide to join in any lawsuit and certainly a moment of history to think about you are now a part of, you, a student athlete. >> you, you where the school jersey you're in advanced classes, you're extremely please. sharp. i understand as well. >> what motivated you to take this step it really just i felt like this was my duty to not just the students i go to school with now but the students who come after me, it's important to make them feel like they're welcomed in a place that is supposed to help them succeed it's just such a big part of our history that can't be ignored wow, to think about it as a duty, briana. thank you so much and that i want to turn the kaitlan for a moment because haleine, the vote was about a month ago. i understand it. right. and we're showing actually images right now of the school sign. it's already restored to stonewall jackson tell me what is behind this, what i mean, this just changed by the way, in 2020, it's only now 2024 what was the reason that they're being stated to have it go back now. >> i can't speculate as to why the school board made the change, but what we can talk about today is what we know is the impact of these names on students at the school like bree and like other the impact is that students are feeling unwelcome in school. they see this as a message that their community doesn't think they belong and they don't want them. and frankly, it carries the same message as when the school was originally built in 1959 as a school for only white students and named stonewall jackson the first time we reach out to the school board as well for comment, we have not heard back on this, but i am the loss in particular, i mean, obviously you found it important to have students who are a part of it and thinking about this and what are the specific, right? you mentioned the impact. i'm assuming discriminatory impact as part of the theory of the case, but what are the rights being violated and what is the likelihood of prevailing in a case like this? >> yeah. >> well, we feel really strong about our right to prevail. >> we think greatness is on our side. here are claimed or in sort of two legal buckets. one of those buckets is what i'll call the anti-discrimination buckets. so their claims under the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment under the title six of the civil rights act. and under the equal education opportunities act. and these are all core civil rights laws coming out of the civil rights movement that say that states and schools can't discriminate against students. so that's part of our claims. >> we're also bringing claims under the first amendment because here in america, of course, we have the right to disagree with the government and the right not to be forced to carry the government's message. >> but right now, students who are going to stonewall jackson high school, they have to identify if i as stonewall jackson rebels in order to have access to their or excuse me, stonewall jackson generals in order to have access to their education, in order to play sports, and all of that. and so they have a right to not carry that message that they disagree with, and that carries a hateful message to them into their classmates. >> turn to you, reverend bailey on this because this actually there was an earlier push. i understand to bring these names back but two years ago that failed what is changed now that this was ripe for the result that has now well from our perspective, what we think has happened is that the continuation of change in the school board actually, folks who are interested in serving and not everybody is. >> and they finally got to the point where they could get a majority of folks who wanted to push this through and then make this change. >> what do you think the message that they're trying to send is what i'm not sure what the message that they're trying to send. >> what's received. i can definitely tell you the message that they're sending the message that they're sending is that they want to return the commonwealth of virginia back to the days of jim crow. this is absolutely the types of things that occurred during the jim crow era. and what i mean by that is that for instance, on monument street in richmond, they built monuments to those civil war generals and who they called heroes when in reality they were secessionist and trainers. and so as, as i heard, a good speaker this past weekend, there's a cold wind blowing across the country and that wind has now come to the commonwealth of virginia specifically to shenandoah county. and what that wind is carrying with it is the seeds of the past injustices and racial discrimination. but we are here to stop them well, let me turn back to you, briana, i'd love to give you the last word on this because your mom grew up in the same school district and i wonder, what do you want people to know about this community that you are a part of it. >> frankly, you both know so well i want people to know that this is such a wonderful community. there are so many wonderful people that live here. there's so much that this area has to offer. i mean, the scenery, the national parks and it's just very concerning and it just, it makes me very sad that people are afraid to come here because they don't think that there'll be accepted or they don't think that they're safe because of actions like this changing back to the names of the schools and i just really want this area to feel welcoming and inclusive to everybody. and i would love to see some more diversity here. yeah, i just want people to know that if they ever come visit the shadow valley, there are there are people here that will accept you and not everybody is reflect, reflective of these ideas well, you prove that case very well if you represent that shenandoah valley, what a beautiful place it really is. briana kaitlan banner reverend cozy bailey. thank you all so much. >> well ahead. >> the instant ramen noodles that are so spicy an entire country just recalled them. >> i'm serious the most anticipated moment of this election and mistakes couldn't be higher. the president and the former president's one stage moderated by jake tapper and dana bash, the cnn presidential debates thursday, june 27th, nine live on cnn and streaming on max. >> hey, you've seen this right? 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>> speaker johnson has grown into his position. you can see that by calling the devote for support for ukraine, where it was stymied, he brought it to the floor for a vote and he cobbled together even democrat votes, republican votes to have that success. yes and so these are maturing and growing decisions that he has made. this meeting tomorrow is one truly about the policy, what they want to be able to campaign on this fall, which is going to be focusing on immigration enforcement. it's going to be talking about the economy. and i think the membrane herzl be encouraging former president trump, stick with that message and get off the angry, get off the chaos, get off the fear mongering that really cost to the republicans vote and so i think that will be honest discussion that is happening tomorrow. >> well, let's assume he has indeed matured into that position enroll by the way, part of that was by getting by partisan support. and surely one is not going to maintain that endeavors. you just mentioned, if he's not going to admit that or say that downs trump does not in fact, has not demonstrated that he believes in a transition of power. do you think it will be possible for speaker johnson to keep trump on the line that you just spoke about? >> well speaker johnson has certainly shown that he is his own person there but there's going to be divided opinion about it tomorrow and i am very worried about the election deniers. i'm worried about their view of january 6 and how it is changed, but that is the reality of it and this is more about the future and this is a little bit like it for some of them, they're a shotgun wedding where there trump is the leader. he is he controls the apparatus of the party and therefore, he's going to be the nominee, therefore, is to march with him whether they like it or not. and so they're binding together to win in november because whether you like president trump or not, you want to be able to win public and seats in the house and in the senate both. so it's very pragmatic and the choices that are being made right now, i think there'll be some honest discussions, but also be some real glossing over of what happened on january 6. and some of the controversies of the past what might be politically pragmatic also could read the electrode is particularly disingenuous because many remember what was said back on january 6, but i understand the idea of being practical. >> i am curious is the shotgun wedding analogy. you think what's motivating someone like senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, who famously ridiculed who's ready ridiculed by trump and has ready killed in the past. >> he'll be at tomorrow's meeting and he is saying that he will in fact vote for trump, but he is stepping down from leadership the end of this year. >> what is mcconnell gain from endorsing trump is it? >> the idea of the republican's a rising tide will lift all their boats well that is exactly the quandary that i find myself and all republicans that believe in republican principles our distressed by this. i mean, some of them are ardent supporters of donald trump, but there's a vast number including senator mcconnell and others that would have preferred a different nominee. but the people, the voters said no donald trump is going to be the nominee this year. i fought against that. i challenged that we lost in that. he is the nominee. so now, what do you do? and of course, senator mcconnell and other said, we're team players that voter said, he's our choice. and so they're signing up for it. and that's where i have the analogy of a shotgun wedding is not necessarily a happy de, it's a forced marriage in some some of those instances. but they're going to be able it's it is pragmatic and i don't think it should deserve all of the criticism because they make that choice, because they see republicans solutions better than what joseph biden is offering. >> governor as actions and thank you so much for joining us thank you. >> good to be with you. >> thank you. with me now, former republican congressman joe walsh and also chug wrote check democratic strategist and former at&t senior adviser to bernie sanders presidential campaigns. all right, so i want to ask you because there are a lot of people who are going to be meeting with trump tomorrow. i mean, you don't have to be very old to remember a lot of their commentary and statements before i see you nodding as a beautiful active listener, but also, i think you would disagreeing in some respects, hutchinson was saying hey, laura, i love esa hutchison, god bless him. there's nothing pragmatic. this is not pragmatism. this is cowardice donald trump, laura has repeatedly said within the last three months that he will refuse to accept the results of an election. this selection, if he loses, he's doing it again pull us out of the context we're in three-and-a-half years ago for the first time in american history and american president lost an election and refuse to concede refused to participate in the peaceful transfer of power, and then tried to overthrow that election three-and-a-half years later, he's the leader of the party. he's the nominee there is nothing pragmatic about what my former colleagues are doing. this is utter cowardice. >> now attack there are some who had listened to that and say, well, hold on. >> let's take away and i know it's a big takeaway. >> takeaway. the january 6 or the transfer of power and talk about the electoral maybe absence of extraordinary excitement the people have chosen who the nominee is going to be. you gotta get on board the actual ship. what do you say to that? is that part of was motivating even democrat who might not be as excited for their own candidate. but once the people have spoken about who has won these different elections, that's the person you got to get behind for january i've ever i think what we're looking at here is in the house, particularly what effect is donald trump have on all of these house members? we all know we talked about it. most of these house members are in safe districts. >> they have no worry about being beaten and being hooked up on donald trump don't hurt them a bit. >> january 6, none of the above it don't matter because 90% of our districts are safe, democrat are safe republicans. but what i'm going to be watching tomorrow is there's about 50 congressional seats that are marginal. they swing a little bit left or a little bit right, and we can win a lot of those as democrats we have a best shot of winning back the house than any other chamber of our government. that means the president or the senate. so tomorrow i'm going to be looking at what members are up next to him talking to him out front, talking to him because the democratic congressional campaign committee will probably use this as an advantage for them to say these members in a district that joe biden probably carried are all muddied up with donald trump. >> so how does the vote today to hold merrick garland in contempt in the house? how does that impact the ability for democrats to use that as fuel for their own campaigns. >> i think joe said it best as you showed the radicalism, they've admitted themselves, it's a do nothing congress. all they're doing is having these fake hearings trumped up charges on this and that and i think it plays in the democrats favor because we can say, look, they're not even worried about putting bread on your table, are making gas prices go down. they want to have these fake here. it's what do you think joe, i mean, when you look at the weapon, how has being called the weaponization of the government? >> this is now the third attorney general who has been held in contempt. previously. there was what eric holder also, of course, you had bill barr as ones and the past, they've all held the same statement of the executive privilege and that you got to have a legislative purpose, not a political campaign slogan. you want to run it at our expense how do you think the voters are going to see this? as a wash that whole system is corrupt, or that republicans are responsible. no, this is just the latest evidence of absolute chaos in this republican two years. laura, republicans promised us if they got control of the of the house they would enact retribution for donald trump. they've investigate everybody biden, they try to impeach biden garland everything. this is all retribution for trump and it's not going to play well with the american voters because they haven't been doing the people's business, taught me about, i mean, the one thing that i've an issue that came up this in the last couple of months, frankly, as the ivf issue, there are a lot of reproductive rights concerns among voters. >> obviously immigration, the economy, you can go down the list ivf was not on the bingo card for most people as an issue, democrats had a chance as well today, they blocked an ivf bill that was proposed by an alabama republican senator katie britt she says it was only blocked because democrats want to use fear tactics what's your stance? >> i think for democrats they know that abortion is an important issue for women all over the country. and what makes it different is it's a right that all women have had for a long time that was taken from them about their own body obvious is just another part of that upset. we want to take this away from you, something you already have when weren't focus groups, we don't hear about garlin, we don't hear about this, but we do hear about women mattered and hail about something being taken away from them, that, that was there right for a long time. and when you take something away from somebody politics that they're used to, avon, that's bad juju, it's a freedom issue. democrats would be smart to position this as a freedom issue, which used to be a republican issue back in the 90s when i first started. this is where we would argue back and forth all the time. we say government's good and i say freedom, there's and freedom that it's all on top of each other, all the other exactly i don't even take them well, i i thought you punch him. >> he didn't move more, but or less anyway, i don't encourage mines. joe, check stick around though ahead, president biden on the world stage facing divisions over ukraine, israel, and far-right? 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>> in perennial struggle between isolation as men are more internationalists stance is something which is being tested receiving this drama play out both in the united states are and as you said, around the world and europe as well we've been doing this since the 1790s. we've been trying to figure out in each given era how forward-leaning we should be and to what extent should we try to stay more on our side of the ocean? what history has taught us again and again and again is that isolationism does not in the end, work because we are inevitably drawn into conflicts that are about perhaps our values, perhaps our trade, perhaps both and i think what president biden is doing is acting in the role of a fairly traditional role in argument that really since 19 certainly since 1945 year that we would have in an atlantic alliance against a expansion, expansionist, authoritarian force in, based in russia, the soviet union wasn't really up for debate. it wasn't for some folks, always on the edge. >> but this is a more prevalent feeling right now. >> obviously because the republican nominee for president, why wonder we're also it must be prevalent. i mean, we're talking about the november election and 140 plus days at this point. and are our allies surely remember quite a few infamous comments and particularly when, when trump sided with putin over us intelligence at the helsinki summit, there's also the photo of an obstinate trump meeting with former german chancellor angela merkel at the 2018 g7. >> and then there was an awkward moment when he shoved the prime minister of months so now grow out of the way. >> biden is saying that world leaders tell him that they're worried about the return of trump. and i wonder how much do you think that weighs on the president? and this moment? >> i think it's extraordinarily, i think ways on him with a great heaviness i take president biden is my friend and i helped him when i can. so take this for what? it's worth joe biden is kind of like a upside down iceberg you see most of what's going on. i'm sure there's something we don't see, but by enlarge, most of us are icebergs and most of us is hidden. he sort of the opposite and when he quotes macron saying, in that early meeting when president biden said america is back and the french president says, but for how long totally rational question for europe to ask remember, the former president the republican nominee, rows in many ways to the republican nomination in 2016, not only on immigration, but on it a few will seemingly elective attack on nato. >> one of those things that was sort of, nato was not maybe for you was not a big subject in the minds of a lot of folks, but president trump in that era was insistent on countries paying their fair share. it was an interesting kind of isolationist argument. so what i think you see with president biden, who's returning to europe is a man who grew up in and has governed for a long time in a world of alliances and atlantic world that by enlarge has kept the peace after the greatest cataclysm and the history of warfare in the 1940s that began with an expansionist. you're for p and force taking countries that did not belong to them. this is not that complicated. this is pretty straightforward. it's not simple. these are complicated questions. but the basic point is if you don't confront aggression early history tells us, we confronted later in, in worse circumstances. and i know that's what breadth i mean, the eventuality of it is for boating best to think about and where and where this all leads were watching what's going to happen overseas. and you also have a new book, as i mentioned, it's called the call to serve and it showcases the life of president george hw bush in photos and you're actually in college station, texas commemorating what would have been his 100th birthday and i wonder as this election is looming, what are the lessons that we can learn from the 41st president? frankly, some would look and say, perhaps even today as republican party would not have highlighted him, even as the nominee i get he was are 41st president. what lessons can there be? >> there is no chance on god's are older, or if you're not religious, there's no chance on earth that george herbert walker bush would be nominated for president. or the republican party today, just know and we can have a really interesting conversation about whether the 43rd president could be i don't think he could. george hw bush, it represents a kind of dignity and a decency in the public arena that is not sentimental. it's not nostalgic it did just happen 20 minutes ago i used to think that we all used to think the 30 years was a long time until we all got a little older now it didn't seem like that long ago and one of the things that i think we have to remember about president bush is in context of the conversation we were just talking about he believed deeply in that same atlantic order. he's been an enormous amount of time working on our alliances managing the end of the cold war. he believed in what franklin roosevelt called the science of human relationships president biden believes the same thing much more george h w bush and president biden non foreign policy questions and on questions of demeanour have enormously as a great deal in common and so that's an interesting sayyed of, given where the parties are president bush born on this date and 1924 really had more in common to some extent, with the founding fathers culturally. >> than he does with our own euro. because he did embody a sense that however ambitious, however imperfect, we are you have to put in critical moments the country first and to his own political detriment. george hw bush did that tough competitor, tough campaigner, not a perfect man. but eight good and decent man who left the country in better shape than he found it. >> and i think that's the charge for all of us john meacham. >> thank you. what forward to reading the book. thank you so much. >> up next rfk jr. delivering a foreign policy speech tonight as he tries to have a breakout moment and the 2024 raise. >> but just who are the people who are supporting him? 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juniors supporters will join. we now see that national politics correspondent, even mechan, who has been covering the rfk jr. campaign. also, joe walsh and check rocher are back with me, eva, a lot of people for so welcome. glad you're here. >> a lot of people know rfk jr. for his were controversial stance is like on vaccines for example, but you've been talking to his supporters and i was surprised to learn that does factor in as largely as people might imagine. >> what do they support? it's not the central issue that comes up when you talk to these voters. there is an ideological diversity here. so you're getting former trump supporters, biden supporters, people who supported bernie sanders, people who sat out 2020 all together and just tonight he said in that speech, military spending is a constant strain on our nation's vitality. that is something that progressives might agree with. that is something with the increasingly isolationist wing of the republican party might agree with. and so democrats have two who are challenging him most forcefully have to contend with aspects of his campaign that do have some broad appeal another group that we're seeing attracted to the kennedy campaign, young voters, 22% among young voters, 18 to 34-years-old and many of them tell me that they learned of his campaign on youtube or tiktok, and then also there is an economic diversity here as well. more than 20% of voters making less than $50,000 a year, according to that same polling, laura. >> so i wonder if that surprises you and you were part of bernie sanders campaign, but think that brace and her supporters are going at some respect for rfk juniors that surprise you that was surprised me because they were fighting back against a system that was let's be clear. i have run bernie's campaign and i'm ride with biden less, but get clear on that. but the folks that were width birdie were folks that were you heard rig system. that's what we ran our campaign on. is that the system was rigged, not the look toro process, but that rich people getting richer and poor people were getting poor. so it was the thing that work, but even brought up three things that are really important in her reporting, which was great reporting is every one of those aspects of the demographics that she talked about, whether it was age or income or the folks that are drawn to him or the lowest propensity voters. when you ask who are the people that are supporting him, it's folks least likely to vote we're living in a moment where a lot of americans believed this system's broken, our political systems broken it is what garnered bernie a lot of appeal. it's what got help get trump elected and 16 rfk jr. appeals to the same thank and a lot of people who don't vote, but they're just, they're sick of both parties. they're sick of a broken political system. and so they tend to listen to demagogues like a trump or an rfk jr. yet it might be motivating for it. they have a candidate that they would like a, they might want to turn out to vote on that. i do wonder, is he on many ballots so far? >> so he is on six. he's qualified in six states officially on the ballot. california, utah, delaware, hawaii, oklahoma, and michigan. >> and of course we know michigan might be the most consequential if the lunch so far, because biden won michigan in 2020 by just about 150,000 foods he has submitted for ballot access in about a dozen other states, but this is something that we're monitoring closely so when you're looking at this check and thinking about him on the ballot, it's not enough to maybe win the race, obviously at the two 270. >> but you could have an impact if you are a biden campaign strategist, what are your concerns as opposed for somebody like rfk jr. compared to what would be as a trump supporter or trump campaign. >> we haven't seen the history of our elections since ross perot, some third part of a big effect like this. and so what you have to look at is the margin are so small in the states in michigan, the number he was so small, we just talked about and also has the largest concentration of muslim americans with what's going on with the gaza strip. so with people that do what i do for living, you're looking at the margins of the folks that we're putting people in categories. we know these people are crazy droppers. these people died in the wool joe biden, who is that little group in the middle. and how do we start talking to them earlier? 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for you it honestly, it just felt like a huge step in the wrong direction i mean, we did all of this. >> i mean, to change the names and to make it feel like a more inclusive environment for every student that wants to come and be a student at not just a mountain view, but at shenandoah county public schools and it just felt like we were part of a bigger political agenda that shouldn't have any play base in the schools it's a pretty extraordinary step to decide to join in any lawsuit and certainly a moment of history to think about you are now a part of, you, a student athlete. >> you, you where the school jersey you're in advanced classes, you're extremely please. sharp. i understand as well. >> what motivated you to take this step it really just i felt like this was my duty to not just the students i go to school with now but the students who come after me, it's important to make them feel like they're welcomed in a place that is supposed to help them succeed it's just such a big part of our history that can't be ignored wow, to think about it as a duty, briana. thank you so much and that i want to turn the kaitlan for a moment because haleine, the vote was about a month ago. i understand it. right. and we're showing actually images right now of the school sign. it's already restored to stonewall jackson tell me what is behind this, what i mean, this just changed by the way, in 2020, it's only now 2024 what was the reason that they're being stated to have it go back now. >> i can't speculate as to why the school board made the change, but what we can talk about today is what we know is the impact of these names on students at the school like bree and like other the impact is that students are feeling unwelcome in school. they see this as a message that their community doesn't think they belong and they don't want them. and frankly, it carries the same message as when the school was originally built in 1959 as a school for only white students and named stonewall jackson the first time we reach out to the school board as well for comment, we have not heard back on this, but i am the loss in particular, i mean, obviously you found it important to have students who are a part of it and thinking about this and what are the specific, right? you mentioned the impact. i'm assuming discriminatory impact as part of the theory of the case, but what are the rights being violated and what is the likelihood of prevailing in a case like this? >> yeah. >> well, we feel really strong about our right to prevail. >> we think greatness is on our side. here are claimed or in sort of two legal buckets. one of those buckets is what i'll call the anti-discrimination buckets. so their claims under the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment under the title six of the civil rights act. and under the equal education opportunities act. and these are all core civil rights laws coming out of the civil rights movement that say that states and schools can't discriminate against students. so that's part of our claims. >> we're also bringing claims under the first amendment because here in america, of course, we have the right to disagree with the government and the right not to be forced to carry the government's message. >> but right now, students who are going to stonewall jackson high school, they have to identify if i as stonewall jackson rebels in order to have access to their or excuse me, stonewall jackson generals in order to have access to their education, in order to play sports, and all of that. and so they have a right to not carry that message that they disagree with, and that carries a hateful message to them into their classmates. >> turn to you, reverend bailey on this because this actually there was an earlier push. i understand to bring these names back but two years ago that failed what is changed now that this was ripe for the result that has now well from our perspective, what we think has happened is that the continuation of change in the school board actually, folks who are interested in serving and not everybody is. >> and they finally got to the point where they could get a majority of folks who wanted to push this through and then make this change. >> what do you think the message that they're trying to send is what i'm not sure what the message that they're trying to send. >> what's received. i can definitely tell you the message that they're sending the message that they're sending is that they want to return the commonwealth of virginia back to the days of jim crow. this is absolutely the types of things that occurred during the jim crow era. and what i mean by that is that for instance, on monument street in richmond, they built monuments to those civil war generals and who they called heroes when in reality they were secessionist and trainers. and so as, as i heard, a good speaker this past weekend, there's a cold wind blowing across the country and that wind has now come to the commonwealth of virginia specifically to shenandoah county. and what that wind is carrying with it is the seeds of the past injustices and racial discrimination. but we are here to stop them well, let me turn back to you, briana, i'd love to give you the last word on this because your mom grew up in the same school district and i wonder, what do you want people to know about this community that you are a part of it. >> frankly, you both know so well i want people to know that this is such a wonderful community. there are so many wonderful people that live here. there's so much that this area has to offer. i mean, the scenery, the national parks and it's just very concerning and it just, it makes me very sad that people are afraid to come here because they don't think that there'll be accepted or they don't think that they're safe because of actions like this changing back to the names of the schools and i just really want this area to feel welcoming and inclusive to everybody. and i would love to see some more diversity here. yeah, i just want people to know that if they ever come visit the shadow valley, there are there are people here that will accept you and not everybody is reflect, reflective of these ideas well, you prove that case very well if you represent that shenandoah valley, what a beautiful place it really is. briana kaitlan banner reverend cozy bailey. thank you all so much. >> well ahead. >> the instant ramen noodles that are so spicy an entire country just recalled them. >> i'm serious the most anticipated moment of this election and mistakes couldn't be higher. the president and the former president's one stage moderated by jake tapper and dana bash, the cnn presidential debates thursday, june 27th, nine live on cnn and streaming on max. >> hey, you've seen this right? 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