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non-violent offender. and that's it for us today. the lead with jake tapper starts right now for the first time in the history of the united states of america and immediate family member of the current president is a convicted felon, believed starts right now hunter biden, guilty on all charges in the federal gun case against him, his father's speaking at the gun safety event just hours after did he say anything about it? now, biden, the president is rushing to delaware to be by his son side. so we'll hunter biden now had the prison and for how long? >> plus trump has a gun situation of his own sources telling cnn the former president fessed up about his weapon in florida, which he is legally not allowed to possess as a convicted in felon, but does donald trump plan to hand the gun over cnn's digging into what he might face if he does not. >> plus leaked messages reported from the leader of the terrorist group hamas, revealing that he thinks hamas is benefiting from the deaths of palestinian civilians in gaza. and that he seemingly could really not care less what happens to them? >> welcome to the lean. i'm jake tapper hunter biden is now a convicted felon. it took a delaware where jury less than three hours to find the president's son guilty. guilty. guilty on all three felony gun charges, deciding he violated laws meant to prevent those who use and are addicted to illegal drugs from owning firearms. multiple jurors spoke to cnn in the moments after they left cord, including juror number ten who told cnn to the jury, had been evenly split last night when they wrapped for the de with six guilty, six not guilty, but this morning jurors went count by count and unanimously decided hunter biden was in fact guilty on all three counts. juror number of ten went on to tell cnn he does not think politics played a role in any jurors decision to convict no politics came in to play in politics was not even spoken about the first family was not even spoken about. it was all it was all about hunter two jurors also told cnn that the emotional testimony would stick with him for a long time, including one saying that the testimony of hunters daughter naomi was quote, heart-wrenching. >> hunter biden responded to the verdict in a written statement saying, quote, in more grateful today for the love and support i experienced this last week from his wife, melissa, my family my friends, and my community that i am disappointed by the outcome recovery is possible by the grace of god. i am blessed to experience that gift one day at a time, unquote. hunter biden now faces theoretically up to 25 years in prison. he is expected to be sentenced before the presidential election. multiple jurors telling cnn that while they agreed he would was guilty, they do not think hunter biden's you go to jail. president biden has said he would not pardon his son. the president reacted to the verdicts this afternoon saying he accepts the outcome of the case and is proud of his son for his recovery i asked president biden about this possibility back in october 2022, before hunter biden was even charged are reporting cnn sub reporting, and the washington post reporting suggests the prosecutors think they could they have enough to charge your son, hunter, for tax crimes and a false statement about a gun purchase personally and politically how do you react to that? well, first of all, i'm proud of my son this is a kid who got out, a kid he's a grown man. you got hooked on like many families have had happened he hooked on drugs. he's overcome that. he's established a new life. this thing about a gun. i didn't know anything about it, but it turns out that when he made application to purchase a gun, what happened was he stayed i guess she had get asked. i don't guess you get asked the question, are you on drugs? you use drugs. he said no. and he wrote about saying no. >> his book let's go straight to cnn's paula reid, who's live outside the courtroom in wilmington, delaware, along with cnn's kayla tausche, who is live outside the white house. paul, give us more context about the jurors and what the next legal steps are for hunter biden the jury was unanimous in its verdict, but we've learned jake there was a split behind the scenes about whether they believed that this was a good use so time and resources one juror told our colleague, henry binwidth that she thought this was quote, a waste of taxpayer money, but they believed they had no choice but to convict based on the instructions that they received from the judge. >> now, juror ten, who manu and i spoke to earlier. he did say that he believed it was a legitimate use of taxpayer funds of course, this case has come under significant scrutiny, even high profile republicans like senator lindsey graham and representative matt gaetz, questioning whether this case should have proceeded today in a where statement, the special counsel, david weiss, he defended his case as quote, being about illegal choices and the rule of law. never his part as you noted, hunter biden, he focused his statement not on the verdict, but the enormous outpouring of support that he is received here in wilmington from family, friends, members of the clergy xi that is something that even prosecutors appeared a little concerned about because they said in their closing arguments that the jury should not consider the presence of the first lady and others in making there decision. and after the verdict, 100 treated that group is supporters sort of like a receiving line and went through and thanked each person individually. now, jquery expects me back here and women he ten and roughly 120 days for sentencing thank carola, kind of an uncomfortable coincidence today, the very day president biden's son is convicted on gun charges. >> the president spoke at a gun violence prevention conference, house. he handling all this well, it was an unfortunate coincidence of scheduling jake, the president delivering those remarks at everytown for gun safety is gun sense university and the white house had told reporters that the president was expected to announce that the department of justice has charged more than 500 defendants for violating some of the new provisions in a bipartisan safer communities act which he was touting the efficacy of and the strength of that law in those remarks. >> now, the president did referenced the fact that prosecutors have new tools to bring charges just against defendants on gun crimes. but he did not mention that number. that number instead, coming in a department of justice press release that was released earlier today, but it comes as of course, the president is in an uncomfortable position, both promoting these laws as well as dealing with what he has long said is a personal and family matter in his statement today in the wake of that verdict, he again praised hunters resiliency and recovery and said this, i will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal jill and i will always be there for hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support nothing will ever change that. now that statement is expected to stand alone today with the press pool here at the white house reporting that the white house is no longer expected to hold a press briefing being the president, of course, on his way to wilmington were presumably he will spend time with family behind closed doors as he did in the days leading up to the beginning of this trial. and as the first lady did on at least a few occasions last tweak jake. >> alright. kayla tausche involve paula paula reid. >> thanks. thanks so much let's bring in my panel. >> tim parlatore, this is what's special counsel weiss said shortly after the verdict is above the law everyone, it must be accountable for their actions. >> even this defendant however hunter biden, should be no more accountable than any other citizen convicted of this same conduct. >> so tim, if hunter biden shouldn't be no more accountable than anyone else, what does that mean in terms of sentencing? >> yeah. so everybody has been talking about how this goes up to 25 years, but really that's just the first step of sentencing. federal sentencing is very involved. you start with the statutory maximum, then you go to the us sentencing guidelines. and sentencing guidelines are very sophisticated. math equations of figuring out all the different things that could apply. i've done my calculation. okay what do you got? >> zero to six months. okay. >> is what i think because you add all these points, it ends up as a base level offensive six. and i know some prosecutors may disagree with me on this point, but there's a reduction if they possessed it for the purpose of lawful sporting purposes collection. and did not unlawfully discharge or. otherwise unlawfully use the firearms or ammunition with his criminal history category of one, that gives you a recommended guideline range of zero to six. now when i heard wastes say that in the press conference i took that is an indicator that he is probably going to go into sentencing asking for probation. >> you think so? i do. and i think it's the right sentence in this in this case, there's there's a lot of things you can add on if it's an automatic weapon, if it was used as part of a larger crime, a crime violence and all those things that's what brings you up to the 25. but for this type of thing where there's no other aggravating factors a probationary sentence is appropriate. there are about i one of our contributors, stephen gutowski, he writes about guns for us, is very knowledgeable, says, if i have this right, it's about 200 charges like this a year and usually it is along the lines of somebody's found with drugs and a gun and the prosecutor decides to charge him with the gun charge instead of the drug charge, it's not somebody who confesses in a bestselling book. to it. and then they go and get him right. so do you agree with tim's analysis in terms of the sentencing? >> yes, i do. and the other thing that this judge is going to want to see basically how she has rolled in other cases similar to this for first-time offenders. and you can look and see in various databases at the justice department how those kinds of cases have been led down. these guidelines. so you can see whether this if it is as we suspect, zero to six is in line with other defendants with the same criminal history. and did not use the gut. and that's one thing that's a bit different about gun safety that the president was added was use the guy i'm thrown out. yeah. on his behalf, i guess or kind of a bone his bath, benningfield on twitter republican congressman tom massie of kentucky posted quote, hunter might deserve to be in jail for something, but purchasing a gun is not it. there are millions of marijuana users who own guns in this country and none of them should be in jail for purchasing or possessing a firearm against current law is i wouldn't say that thomas massie is a big hunter biden supporter but saying that this is kind of bogus in his view. yeah, republicans have kind of been all over the board today in their responsiveness. and it shows you, i think what a political challenge this is for them both from gun owner perspective, they're kind of loads to jump in and and beyond on the opposite side of the nra. for example, on the gun issues here but also i think that they have seen over time that trying to make a hunter biden's struggles with addiction, which is fundamentally what this is for the average american when you heard that from juror ten, who talked about all of the case in terms of the heart wrenching testimony and the struggle of the family republicans have really struggled to make this line of attack stick because most people see this and feel sympathy. most people have somebody in their family who's gone through addiction, they know what they feel for president biden. i think they feel sympathy for the biden family, and so i think there has i don't know that they fill it for i think we've seen well, but hunter is not an elected official. i mean ultimately the point of a political attacks i just want to be clear on sympathy though they've really struggled and they've really struggled to make the stick to joe biden. i think seeing that kind of reaction from asieh, the trump campaign sort of struggled to respond today. they put out a statement than they retracted it. then they send trump was going to say something on truth social. i don't think he has decided why not? we haven't seen anything. >> so this is not gonna be a political winner for them, but jamie, three jurors told cnn that they question whether the criminal case should have ever been brought against the president's son another said he doesn't think politics plays a role in anyone's decision to contract. first of all, i mean, kudos to the jury for doing there duty, even though they didn't think that this was worth that, they still just divided by what the judge told them to do. but what do you make of this? >> so first of all, if you can't have cameras in the courtroom, i want to say thank you, especially to juror number ten for coming out and speaking to us and the others about what happened i think what happened here today was the system worked as simple as that. it was common sense of juror number ten said to us that the jury came to believe that hunter was an addict at the time he felt out his forum and that he knowingly did did that. >> i also thought was very interesting. >> juror number ten also said that politics did not come into play, that they put a sayyed, that this was the biden family, although you could tell it was a federal case, but this was a delaware jury. juror number ten called the first lady, jill, right? this is a family they're familiar with? no. >> absolutely. everyone stick around. we've got a lot more to talk about. i want to get into what today's verdict might mean for the election for attacks against the justice department also had the weapon donald trump is not supposed to have given his own criminal conviction. what's seen ancillary about that, plus the wife of us supreme court justice samuel alito secret currently recorded by an activist. what she said about that controversial flag outside her home, the upside down distress symbol, and the people who criticize her for flying it, stay with us the lead, we, jake tapper. >> he's brought to you by dell technologies. >> we push what technology can do. so great ideas can happen, right? now. welcome to now recipes recipes that are more than their ingredients recipes written by hand lost to time can now be analyzed and restored using the power of delhi reserving memories and how to write new at fisher investments, we may look like other money managers, but we are different. >> how so we're a fiduciary, obligated to act in our client's best interests. >> so we don't sell any commission-based products, then how do you make money? 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>> well, i do think that you know democracy is held. the world was part of democracy jurors are one of the things the founders a door jurors because they were a kind of democratic decision-making. we can can't throw you away into jail so i think we will see that some of the attacks blunted earlier we saw that former president trump has not commented, for example, on this because yet but i think what you see is a totally different pitch from, we don't see hunter biden screaming about the logit illegitimacy of the justice system. and so that contrast to the former president and his antics, i will say at the trial, this rather dignified acceptance of responsibility is something that i think we we'll continue to see. >> so let me ask you this, tim, because it occurred to me. whatever one thinks about the biden family, hunter james, the president, et cetera what happened today? >> it would not have happened if a president vice upon taking office, didn't keep the us attorney of delaware as us attorney, even though he was appointed by trump because of the investigation into hunter and not wanting to be unethical and b, if us attorney general merrick garland hadn't appointed weiss, that us attorney as special counsel after the questionable sentencing issue. >> i mean it's just you can't dispute it i mean, it happened because joe biden, actually abided by what ethics officials would have wanted him to do. >> he left the trump appointed prosecutor in front of the trump-appointed judge and this was the result. i mean, look i'm not somebody that believes that the justice department and everything has been weaponized. i think i look at each one of these cases individually and we have had this type of thing throughout our history. we once had a president of the united states who ordered his vice president indicted thomas jefferson, aaron burr so this type of thing has happened throughout our history, but ultimately the jury is a great equalizer. and so i think that it is two biden's credit that he kind of step back and let this process play out and it's going to play out again shortly in california yeah. >> with the tax case, tax charges against him and uncomfortable moment. and you heard kayla tausche or why does correspond to talking about this biden speaking at a gun safety event and he was supposed to harold all these laws and regulations that help keep guns out of the wrong people's hands. >> and obviously, he didn't mention it because that's his son. >> i mean, that's one of those laws you're not supposed to be able to. if you are using or addicted to drugs, you're not supposed to have a gun and he kind of skirted that law. >> well, i think first of all, i think this is the fluke of the schedule. but in some ways very more is more compelling and for him to go to to demonstrate that you should read into it more, you know, no, i don't think so. he has been very he has kept himself out of this process. he has made this about love for his son and also his belief that the president should not inappropriately influenced the judicial process. and i think you saw both of those things on display today when he went to a gun event? and talked about the progress that he's made on these laws and focused on how what he's done as president and what he would do in a second term will impact real people. he didn't go and talk about his family. he didn't go and complain about how his son was treated unfairly. and that contrast in and of itself, i think is powerful. >> jamie, former president trump's campaign said, and i'm not sure if this was the one that they retracted or if this is a new one, you'll have to tell me this trial has been nothing more than a distraction from the real crimes of the biden crime family, which has raked in tens of billions of dollars. i'm trying to russia and ukraine crooked joe biden's reign over the biden family criminal empire is all coming to an end of november 5th. and never again will abide and sell government access for personal profit is that the one that they revoked or for is this a new one? >> this is number three acts. the first one had a tagline as for hunter, we wish him well in his recovery and legal affairs, they took that one back in this is now out with out without that, what is the fact that this is their response, say about i at all, i just wanted to say the word biden crime family are staying on my bingo card for donald trump for the rest of this campaign? >> yeah. all right. well, thanks. one and all appreciate it. also in our law and justice leader source tells cnn that former president donald trump admitted he still possesses a handgun in the state of florida and talked about the weapon in a pre-sentencing interview with a probation officer yesterday, possession of a firearm by a convicted felon is a crime in florida and a violation of federal law. cnn's chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst, john miller joined just now. john, you've been following this closely flee what more can you tell us and could trump face any legal consequences. >> so he could, although right now, that is unlikely, are understanding from a new york city official who was briefed on the interview that donald trump and his lawyer, todd blanche i'm sat in on with probation officials yesterday, went through the regular questions about where do you live, how much time do you spend in florida versus new york family situation access to firearms. they said there is a gun in florida. now, we know that when new york city officials, after trump's arrest in 2023 suspended his pistol the license, there were three guns listed there too, were turned over. and when they said where's the third, they said, oh, it had been lawfully transferred to florida. so this apparently is the gun that trump and his lawyer were referring to yesterday which apparently is still in florida. so what new york city probation officials are doing, we are told by the source is they are reaching out to local officials in florida to resolve the issue of this weapon and of course yesterday we went through our calls last week two the palm beach county sheriff's office, the palm beach police department saying had anybody turned in a gun from donald trump? since his conviction on felony charges and they said they had not those. we'll seem to be turning now. it's interesting though, because he was convicted of felony charges at the end of may, which means he has been technically illegal possession of a firearm by a convicted felon for about as many days as hunter biden was. if you'd like the irony there oh boy, john miller, thanks so much appreciate it coming up next, the leaked messages from the leader of the terrorist group hamas reportedly calling palestinian deaths, quote necessary sacrifices in the hamas war against israel. >> more of the stunning messages now exposed plus cnn's rare exclusive access to a site in syria that a us official ones called a breeding ground for the next generation of the terrorists of isis. what a woman there told cnn's clarissa ward coming up like it's hard besides it's time to feed the dogs real food, not highly processed palace. the farmers dog is fresh food made with whole meet and veggies. it's not dry food it's not what food. it's just a real food it's an idea whose time has come. >> when i was diagnosed with hiv, i didn't know who i would be, but here i am being me. >> keep being you and ask your health care provider about the number one prescribed hiv treatment, big tare, battarbee is a complete one pill once a day treatment used for hiv many people, whether you're 18 or any with one small pill, pick derby fights hiv to help you get to undetectable and stay there. whether you're just starting or replacing your current treatment. research shows that taking hiv treatment as prescribed and getting two and staying undetectable prevents transmitting hiv through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure, rare hi threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid and liver problems to not take battarbee if you take dofetilide or rifampin, tell your health care provider about all the medicines and supplements you take. if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, or if you have kidney or liver problems including hepatitis, if you have hepatitis b and that stuff taking victory without talking to your health care provider common side effects of diarrhea, nausea jack, and headache, no matter where life takes you, big tar we can go with you talk to your healthcare provider today february's when you host your bathroom can feel like a revolving door. >> keep things fresh with a brief malls spaces. it's an outward free air freshener by voters are 45 days. so even after every class, you know, your bathroom, smells amazing bad debt holding you back only ran vicious all in one low fixed rates far left, 100 k, no fees required. >> so get your money, rights. >> luma phi, it's kind of amazing wow, my go-to is lima phi eye drops, luma phi dramatically reduces redness in one minute and look at the difference. my eyes look brighter and wider for up to eight hours. limma five really works see for yourself, nine out of ten people don't get enough fiber bennett fiber is the easy, gentle solution for every day. it's plant-based prebiotic fiber nourishes good bacteria in your gut, working with your body to promote digestive health with so craig here pays too much for verizon wireless. so he sublet half his real estate office... 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military tax. >> all of this is the wall street journal is reporting that sinwar recently told other leaders of hamas that the civilian death toll in gaza benefits hamas. cnn's kylie atwood reports now from amman, jordan tonight, a high-stakes life and death waiting game heats up in the middle east, hamas has responded to the latest ceasefire proposal for israel, but more talks are now expected as an effort to set piece into motion i, think anyone other than the hamas leadership in gaza actually are the ones who can make make decisions that's what we're waiting. secretary of state antony blinken, who's traveling in the region, said that israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu reaffirmed his commitment to the current deal on the table that was detailed in speech 11 days ago by president biden. the pressure now increasingly on one man alone who started this war and could end it. yahya sinwar, the military leader of hamas, sinwar, helped mastermind the horrific october 7 attacks and is suspected to be hiding out in the tunnels under gaza exactly where is unknown. our frehse report out today from the wall street journal details messages between sinwar and hamas officials participating in the ceasefire talks in doha. the exchanges show that the terrorist leader thinks he may have the upper hand in the current negotiations, quote, we have the israelis right where we want on them. sinwar allegedly said in recent messages, these stunning messages which cnn cannot independently verify, reveal his frame of mind as this war drags into its ninth month with the palestinian death toll climbing, sinwar row quote, these are necessary sacrifices this is why us officials believed sinwar has had little incentive to broker a deal. not only will israel refused to stop fighting, but the pressure will continue to mount on israel daily, which sinwar believes is to his benefit, the israeli military responded to these messages saying quote, hamas leaders don't care about gazans how many times did they have to say it for themselves before the world believes them? and as blinken continues to push for a deal that could eventually end the war, he took aim at sinwar. >> are they looking after one guy who may be for now safe, very i don't know ten stories underground somewhere in gaza while the people that he purports to represent continue to suffer in a crossfire of his own making or will he do what's necessary to actually move this to a better place now of course, we have learned that hamas submitted this proposal by qatari interlocutors. >> it included proposed amendments including a timeline for a permanent ceasefire and a complete israeli withdrawal from gaza of course, j goes are tall, asked for the israelis who have steered clear of anything that would explicitly link them to a permanent ceasefire in the end. but of course we know the goal is bring this conflict to a close. so we'll have to watch and see where this all goes. the biden hey, miss ration for their part not commenting on what is in the hamas response. and it sees john kirby says that they are examining it right now. we are here in jordan with the secretary his date tomorrow. he is headed straight to qatar those will be critical conversations because qatar's have been so intimately involved in this process. we'll get a better sense for where the united states things will go from here, jake. >> all right. kylie atwood in amman, jordan for us. thank you so much coming up next, the wife of us supreme court justice samuel alito secretly recorded dishing on the desktop over the controversial upside down flag outside her home. here, her response to the criticism that's next the most anticipated moment of this election and the stakes couldn't be higher. the president and the former president's one stage model read it by jake tapper and dana bash, the cnn presidential debate, thursday, june 27th, nine live on cnn and streaming on max start your day with nature. >> me. >> the number one 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justice lead a liberal activists secretly recorded politically sensitive conversations with the chief justice of the united states, john roberts, with justice samuel alito and with justice alito's wife, cnn's jessica schneider brings us that audio. and the stark contrast between the comments of chief justice roberts and justice alito martha-ann alito, the wife of justice samuel alito, back in the spotlight and secretly recorded after flying controversial flags at their homes in virginia and new jersey we know what i want. i want sacred heart of jesus flag because i had to look cross the lagoon at the pride flag for the next month exactly and he's like oh, please don't put up a flag. i said i won't do it because i'm deferring to you but when you are free of this nonsense, i'm putting it up and i'm going to send them a message every day, maybe every week i'll be changing the flags the comments captured by a liberal activist at a dinner last week hosted by the supreme court historical society. >> this society condemned the secret recordings, saying attendees are advised not to discuss anything from the event. lauren windsor defended her actions there's nothing illegal in dc about recording people, so long as one person is a party to that conversation, to people who want to pearl clutch about this yeah. >> please tell me how we're gonna get answers when the supreme court has been shrouded in secrecy and really just refusing any degree of accountability whatsoever winds are also recorded two members of the high court who gave their own differing opinions. >> first, listen to this exchange with justice samuel alito at the event, people in this country believing god that keep fighting to return our country a place a bottling names. >> i agree with windsor was posing as a devout catholic while recording, feigning disagreement with progressive politics know that we can go the polar i think it is a matter of like i think you're probably right now one side or the other one side or the others i don't know i mean, there can be a way of working our way of living together it's different because there are differences one fundamental things that really can't comment so it's not like what the difference. >> windsor also secretly recorded chief justice john roberts, who rebuffed her when she made a case for a more christian society we live in and christian nation are supreme court's guidance i don't know that we live in a christian nation. >> i know a lot of jewish and muslim friends who would say maybe not and it's not our job to do that job to decide the cases, especially now we've not yet seen any comment on these secret coatings from the supreme court or from the justices or from justice alito's wife. >> now, the supreme court historical society, they're the ones who hosted this dinner where the recordings were made. it is a yearly event. it's held inside the court building and members of this society, they're allowed to buy tickets for themselves and one 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american woman who went to syria to join isis most of these sites are children at risk of being radicalized by a life created by their parents. here's some of what clarissa ward saw cnn has found that boys as young as 14 had been held here at the notorious panorama prison with an estimated 4,000 inmates. >> it is the largest concentration of ices fighters in the world. no journalist has been allowed inside panorama since 2021 until now. >> so the head of the prison has asked me to put on a head scarf where we walk through here because these are some of the most radicalized prisoners they have a senior us official told us the number one concern at panorama is a prison break. >> the fear that was realized in 2022 when hundreds of inmate's managed to escape. and i look inside 25 men sit cross-legged in silence cell is spotless the men, we see appear to be indecent physical condition but tuberculosis is rampant in the prison. and we are only allowed to look inside two cells versus your where are from a british man approaches the great, but does not want to show his face i know advocacy groups called the us as funded panorama, illegal black hole, worse than guantanamo bay in an interrogation room we meet 19-year-old stephen uj or loop from suriname. he tells us he was brought to the prison when he was 14 along with more than 100 other miners have you had a lawyer ever you talk to a lawyer? well i don't know about the big guys speaker mother kids assume. well, if you know the truth, we don't know even why we're always like punished in this prison. i were punished we don't even know what he's done. we've been imprisoned because of our times at the sdf intelligence headquarters, we made british pakistani dr. mohammed socket accused of joining isis. he claims he was the victim of an elaborate kidnapping plot. it says, panoramas, inmates are abused. >> so we live in which i live in fear when you say you live in torture, do you mean that you are actually physically being tortured? >> this happens on an off what kind of torture, like beating by the stick by the gods? to be honest, i'm just waiting for my death. >> there's no getting out of his prison. probably never the warden at panel now, rama called psaki pbs claim of abuse false, saying, quote, all parts of the prison are monitored by cameras and no prison guard can act in this way. the sdf and the us are pushing countries to repatriate their citizens from syria, saying it is the only solution to this complex and dangerous situation. >> but the process has been slow and many including western allies are dragging their feet and the owl rose camp, we made brits, canadians, belgia, australians, and a couple of americans survive basically 30-year-old hoda methanol has been stuck here with her seven-year-old son for more than five years. i have to ask you, i'm seeing all of the women here are fully covered. a lot of them covering their faces you're not covered, you're wearing a tie the sure. is that hard it was hard when i first took it. >> i would say for the first two or 23 years people were not accepting of it you know, and they harassed us a lot. they stole our stuff oh, and i had to stay strong and show example for my son born and raised in the us, hoda became radicalized online at the age of 20, left her family and alabama to live under isis, a decision she quickly regret it if you were to be able to go back to the us and you had to go on trial, potentially serve time in prison. have you reconciled yourself without possibility? i always tell myself that i'm going to prison would be a step forward in my life if i had any time to serve, i'd server and come out and begin my life with my son for now that is not an option. while the us advocates repatriation, it ruled holders us citizenship invalid on a technicality, but i didn't write now. she lives in fear for her son's future what do you miss most about america i just want to breathe at moroccan era and be around people. >> i loved the people of america. they're very open and they're very forgiving and they're very, they're people who gives second chances and i think if they were to sit down with me and listen to my story from the beginning, they would give me a second chance and clarissa, the woman hoda, there in your piece, especially at the end there. >> what is the biden administration say about her chances of being able to come back to the united states? >> jake, we've reached out to the state department who wrote to us that the department is not changed its position with regards to ms madonna's citizenship status as the state department determined? permanent and the courts agreed she is not and never was a us citizen. we also heard from who does lawyer who said, if hoda matthiae is not a us citizen, than she is stateless and that is a violation kind of international law. that directly contradicts what the us government has stated that other countries cannot and should not do. so. hoda is continuing to appeal to get back to her family in the us, jake and then i guess this gets into the question as to why it's taking so long for countries to take their people back from these well, i think jake, for many countries, particularly here in the uk, this has become a political issue and a lot of ordinary people don't want to see those who joined isis or who were affiliated with isis coming back here, i think for law enforcement, there are also concerns that potentially not enough evidence has been gathered in every single case that would allow these people to be put behind bars if indeed they belong behind bars. >> and so they would rather just leave the problem alone and then you also have people, jake, some of whom we met, particularly in one camp, women who don't want to leave, who don't want to return to their homes own countries who want to continue to live in there sort of many caliphate esq. enclave until the time comes in the future where they hope there will be prison breaks or some 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