room. i'll see you tomorrow morning 11:00 a.m. eastern for cnn newsroom back 6:00 p.m. eastern >> minister for the situation room until then, once again, thanks very much for watching erin burnett outfront starts right now affect his sentence, as well as who was in that room. >> plus a secret new recording tonight of supreme court justice samuel alito. >> this is the former republican governor christie todd whitman breaks her silence about the man that she had publicly supported an introduced to the united states senate. does she now regret backing alito? and it's the hottest stock of a planet. >> a little known company forcing apple today to play catch up we have a special report. let's go out front and good evening i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. the breaking news, former president trump, just wrapping up an interview with a probation officer. this is a first, never an american history has a former president had to sit down with a probation officer because the former president has never been convicted of a crime. but here we are. >> this meeting was mandatory for trump as he is now a convicted in felon in the state of new york trump answering questions from his home and mar-a-lago. >> now, according to a source, the question answers lasted about half an hour and trump was asked, we understand some of the basic questions that other convicted felons must answer those questions for a regular felon would include questions about family background, financial status, living situation and crucially, it chance for the defendant in this case trump to say why he thinks he deserves a lighter punishment. >> now there is no pleading the fifth year and the answers trump gave will influence judge juan merchan, who will formally sentence trump in july. >> here's the range trump is facing anywhere from probation two up to a maximum of 20 years in prison after being found guilty of all 34 counts in the new york hush money case. now, one of the most important drivers into whether which extreme this ends up on or where it ends up in that in that band is whether trump expresses remorse and that of course, is not happening. trump today posting online, i truly wish people would remember that all of these trials in quotes are concocted and run by the crooked joe biden white house and doj for the purpose of election interference and damaging crooked political opponent me as much as possible of course, it always bears noting in a moment when he says that the biden doj could have prosecuted this case and explicitly chose not to and the white house white house officials privately call this case the runt of the litter. but trump is going to melt this trial for all its political worth. and it comes as his top political ally today rudy giuliani is now facing some justice of his own, charged with allegedly conspiring to overturn arizona's electors this just came out moments ago. what you're looking at on your screen is the mug shot of giuliani. america's mare turned into trump's fall guy, and that is his mug shot. and the state of arizona, maricopa county tonight brynn grasp begins our coverage outfront live in new york and brynn, you've got new reporting about this interview between trump and probation officers. what are you learning yeah, that's right. >> so aaron is interview took place around 330 today, as you said, it lasted for about a half an hour a bud as source in new york city's who was familiar with the actual interview that took place over a virtual meeting telling are john miller that's right. was described as polite, respectful, and accommodating answering all the questions asked of him. now we've reported that todd blanche trump's attorney was with him in mar-a-lago on that side of the virtual feeding by here in new york are understanding from this source is that the commissioner of the new york city probation department would need a homes was present. the general counsel for that department was present as well as the probation officer that is assigned to trump's case. of course, this probation officer now will likely stick with trump and this will be the person who does the following. clubs were saying, though that as of now, like i said, he answered all of the questions that were asked of him. and right now, there doesn't seem to be a follow-up, but of course there is always that option should they need it? so one of the more details of how that probation interview went, as we've described before, many questions could be asked up, certainly about trump comes back round his financial history. has he abused drugs or alcohol in the past? it's certainly not much ground covered in the 30 minutes, but of course, we're talking about a defendant like the former president here. now, what happens next? >> the defense attorney todd blanche to his team there are going to submit a sentence recommendation to the judge, the probation officer, who conducted this interview is going to conduct. >> it's going to compile a report. and these are just two elements that are gonna be factored into judge juan merchan's decision when he makes that sentence being done, which of course we know the days is next month in july 11, aaron, our brand. >> thank you very much. in new york, outside the courthouse, michael jacobson, and our team join me here. michael, let me start with you because you are the former new york city correction and probation commissioner. so when you to homes now doing that now so what what's your take of what happened today could have been obviously probation or regular probation officer assigned to the case, but it sounds like the commissioner herself was in the room as well as the general counsel. >> well, you certainly expected someone more than just the probation officer to be in that interview. i mean, it's so unusual for 1,000 reasons. most of them obvious. but just the fact than it was remote and that trump's attorney was there. those are two very odd things in an themselves. so given all that, it certainly made sense that you would want someone other than the probation officer. it certainly makes sense to me for the general counsel to be there the equivalent of trump's attorney on the probation, sayyed. yeah. >> the commissioner runs the agencies. so i think she thought it was appropriate that she was there. >> now, i know these can often go up to 90 minutes or two. i then go longer. this went less than 30 and obviously this isn't a case where the judge needs to be reminded about the details of the defendant or anything like that as would be the case and normal situations. but what do you think they got out of it? >> well, it's just the beginning of what can be a pretty long and sometimes intrusive process. so you shouldn't take too much that it was just a first polite interview. the probation officer has wide berth here to get into as you said alcohol and drug use talking to pass victims can examine trump's behavior in terms of the violation of the gag order revisit the finding that he sexually assaulted jean carroll, all that is open, fodder for a pre-sentence investigation. they want us to paint a broad picture. this this was the start of something. it's certainly not the end, which is important thing, right? >> size, if this is done, then we wait a month, right? terry, this is a part of it, but you've watched the judge so closely in that room, judge, that trump had referred to looking like an angel, but he was really the devil, was the way trump put it. but a judge, to his demeanor was always positive, serious, he never never for betrayed any sort of emotion. >> how much weight do you think he will give this report, this interview that's the report that's going to come out of the interview that michael's talking about. >> i think he's going to take it very seriously, but like you said, aaron, he knows this defendant, he knows trump. he saw him every day. he saw trump violate the gag order ten times and he impose the fine for that. and i think he's going to really want to see whether there is remorse and he's going to take what's been going on in las vegas, the rally, what he's saying and all of the things that he saying now really don't show remorse. and i think that is going to have an impact. i'm not saying he's going to incarcerate him but i do think as to whether it's probation or house arrest, or community service. he's going to go with something that's a little more serious mark the way that it was described brings reporting, the way that trump handled himself today was that he was polite and respectful and accommodating to the probation officer. >> and obviously the commissioner and the general counsel who were also present for the new york parole commission. i'm sorry, probation commission but this is the first time a foreign president's ever been in a situation like this mark, you've been in situations like this hundreds of times with clients. so does the judge already have his mind made up when you hear accommodating, polite and respectful. does that mean anything considering what trump says about this, judge? pretty much daily? >> i think there is a pragmatic approach that he should be respectful to probation officer interviewing him. i've never had general counsel show up at the hundreds that i've ever been on. i'll also never had the commission of department of corrections show up. so obviously, everyone's looking at this very, very carefully. but aaron, as we talked about last week, i do think that this judge as most judges who sat through the trial before sentencing, have most of their mind made up 90% or so. this is not going to, i think move the needle very much because everyone knows who donald trump is. everyone knows about the facts of the case, which really interesting is whether or not they took this opportunity to give a written statement for a verbal statement of his position. i'm almost surprised if he didn't just because of who he is, although i tell my clients never to give a written or verbal statement at this stage, wait until you get in front of the judge. >> all right. well, we'll see the mark. i want to ask you about one other thing here because it trump obviously was in this interview today means i'm rudy giuliani, right? who was at the helm of this his efforts to overturn state election results was we had his mug shot taken america county and arizona. a process in phoenix after pleading not guilty to charges of trying to overturn the election, they're just looking at this picture and he's got a blue and a white star tie on. i tried to smile, i guess. i mean, mark, what's your reaction looking at that mug shot it's insulting to the process to be honest, i remember rudy when i grew up in new york and all of that good stuff, america's mayor, like you mentioned it's just sad that we're getting to the point where on the same day from a president maybe if future president is getting your probation interview. >> and the former mayor of america is getting a mug shot taken. have you said that he knows respect to should give the process he hasn't done it recently, but he knows and you don't smile, you don't look away from the camera. you give the respect, even at the process of a mug shot, to respect the process that quite honestly, he was sworn to protect for decades and it's important where you say right. >> i mean, he's mocking it by the smile it's not not a state of mind, it's a mocking michael when we talk of trump allies, it's actually very relevant here in the context of the probation conversation, because florida governor ron desantis this they obviously were rivals for a time. they were allies then rivals, and now here we are. >> but desantis could actually be the one who oversees whatever sentence trump gets, right? >> right. so the way this works is a little known part of probation nationally kohli interstate compact and if you're sentenced in a jurisdiction but you happen to live in another jurisdiction, which is the case here, right. sentenced in new york, lives in florida. most of the time through the interstate compact, the supervision of that case will be done in a jurisdiction that the person lives in. so under normal circumstances, if he was sentenced to probation, they would to make a request to be transferred to florida probation. >> right? >> those requests are normally fulfilled. i think this one there might be a little more of a discussion then they're normally is, but that agency is, as you say, controlled by the governor and floor. >> so how he really asieh check in or the the way he's treated that would could potentially be the decision of governor desantis potentially the that compact gives wide berth to the receiving agency as they're called and the general rule is that agency treats this person as they do similar people there are no servers, no similar people. is a terrorist. what's the process here is my mega is point out this is the first step. >> it's a month from tomorrow that we're actually going to get the sentencing unless it's delayed. so the process here is what in trump's team files or what they think the sentence should be. and there's a whole lot of back-and-forth exactly n one of the things who's that the probation officer will be doing. they don't just have to interview some thinking interview family members. they can talk to prior victims if there were any victims in this case, it's victimless, so to speak. but they're going to be continuing to do their investigation. the judge is doing his research. >> by the way, he is looking at how many similar people have had these types of charges and what has been their sentence. >> so he's doing that and meanwhile, the attorneys obviously are working on their recommendations, both the prosecution and the defense. all right. well, thank you all very much and next we do at breaking news on the jury, deliberating in the hunter biden trial tonight, his family turning out in force today is the prosecution wants the jury about by this family presence in the courtroom, plus protests breaking out tonight after one of america's top allies suffers a shocking defeat. feet at the polls. tonight. far right's candidates across europe gaining ground. and justice samuel alito, listen to this secretly recorded on tape so what's the difference when the competition is a nuclear competitions, spying is ordinarily important for russians were trying to spy on us. we were spying on them it's a very dull for code to determine whom you can trust i was telling frank everything got out of control this is a war. >> but secret war, secrets buys a nuclear game. sunday at ten on cnn three body serie a city client uses city's financial expertise to help drive its growth and keep its supply chain moving. some more pet parents can get everything they need, right when they need it keeping more pets and families happy for the love of moving our clients forward, for the love of progress billy the kid it's trying to take over the town what it needs is clean it up. they've appointed a new sheriff, pat garrett i mean, something to you. >> sure. does use the royal the billy. now it's your job to hold them down. a law doesn't take sides you can win. >> this ain't a game for me at fisher investments. we may look like other money managers were different houses were a fiduciary, obligated to act in our client's best interests. so we don't sell any commission-based products, then how do you make money we have a simple management fee structured, so we do better when our clients do better the clients really come first then. >> yes, we make them a top priority by getting to know their finances, family, health lifestyle, and more. >> well, maybe we are different at fisher investments were clearly different if you have chronic kidney disease, you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with bar sega because there are places would like to be for seekers can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections and low blood sugar a rare life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. >> stopped taking farsi, go and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of disinfection and allergic reaction ketoacidosis what the role trend. >> everyone comfortable? 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that, just speak declare here as father or the president, united states has made it clear that he will not pardon his son if he's found guilty. i've impressed has been following this trial since the beginning. he's out from the courthouse and obviously you've spent now days and days inside that courtroom, evan so the jury has this now, what can you tell us tonight well, aaron, i was in the courtroom this afternoon as both the prosecution and the defense did their closing arguments, you could see some jurors nodding off during the 90 minutes defense closing arguments abbe lowell, the lawyer for hunter biden, really focused as arguments on trying to direct the attention of the jury on things that he says shows showed shortcomings in the government's case, who pointed out that because there is no direct evidence that hunter biden was using crack cocaine in october of 2018 when he bought the firearm? >> that that is reasonable doubt as to whether he knew he was lying on the form that he filled out when he bought that gun. now, in response to that, there are kinds, the prosecutor said, someone who holds a crackpipe to his mouth every 15 every 15 minutes knows that they're an addict so that's really the concise nature of this case. this is a very simple case and so now that the jury has it, we anticipate this is not going to take too long. however, what we know is this once he, once we get a verdict from this hunter biden faces up to 25 years, possibly under this law, we don't expect that as a first-time offender, if he is convicted, that he would get that much. we also anticipate that the that the judge will take at least a few weeks to set a possible sentencing. again if, there is a guilty verdict, again tomorrow, the jury is back here at 9:00 a.m. and we expect that there'll be here all day tomorrow alright. >> evan, thank you very much. i mean, we'll see when that verdict comes. and that could be tomorrow, and evan will be there in that courtroom, which was packed today. and notably, a number of people in the room were related to a hunter biden, including the first lady, jill biden, france over the weekend she was back. prosecutors even telling jurors not to be swayed by the president. the presence i'm sorry, of the president's family in the courtroom saying, quote, this is not evidence. tom foreman's out front as the jury headed into deliberations, hunter biden's family was there in force. >> his mother, his wife, and others packing the first rows of the courtroom. this even after a brutal week of testimony, full of painful details of his in fidelity divorce, drug addiction, and grief all of which he acknowledged long ago, i made mistakes in my life and wasted opportunities and privileges. i was afforded for that i'm responsible. women in his life have played a big role in court. ex-wife, kathleen buhle, testifying that she searched hunter's car before their daughters got in and found drugs or paraphernalia on approximately a dozen occasions his former girlfriend, zoe kestan, whom he met when she was a dancer at a club, said he appeared to be smoking crack on their first evening together. his daughter, naomi, tearfully took the stand in her father's defense, only to be asked by prosecutors about this text to him. i'm really sorry, dad. >> i can't take this and first lady, jill biden has been in court to holding hands and the family line. >> i love hunter and i'll support him and i in any way i can. and that's how i look at things hunters, deceased brother beau has also loomed large. >> witnesses have talked about the devastating impact of beau's death to cancer in 2015 hunter has said the grief was so intense, it spurred or romantic relationship with beau's widow, hallie, and that grief turned into a hope for a love that maybe you could replace what we lost and it didn't work. >> it didn't work indeed, a trial, haley said hunter introduced her to crack. >> it was a terrible experience. she said, i'm embarrassed, i'm ashamed. i regret that period of my life through it all the unstoppable refrain, drugs, drugs, drugs was segments of his own audio book played as evidence. >> i possessed a new superpower, the ability to find crack and anytown at any anytime, no matter how familiar the kirrane it was easy. >> and of course, president joe biden is hovering, not in person, but in spirits. his decision all ready-made will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict, no matter what it is? yes. >> and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? >> yes this would be a difficult bit of testimony for any family in this country to endure. >> i am sure, but with a member of that family seeking to hold onto the white house knowing the whole nation is watching, just makes it more so. >> aaron, tom, thank you very much. and ryan goodman is here, so ryan we're. just going through that. how many people were in the room when you think about it the ex-wife sister-in-law, former girlfriend his his stepmother, joe biden, all of them in that room. what does that do to the jury? >> so. i think it can make the defendant look like a more sympathetic character, especially because you've got this audio tape, which i think some of what they're playing, it makes him seem very creepy. and he's talking about criminal conduct in a sense. but here you have the family that's showing love and support for a person who is giving the image of being rehabilitated and so that could be sympathetic to the jury jury, and that's why the prosecutors maybe felt like they had to say something to try to defuse that, to say that's something separate from whether or not he's criminally guilty of the alleged right, which they're trying to say, don't look at who's in the room. it's not about the case, but is defense attorney abbe lowell as evan was referring to, said during is closing closing statement that hallie biden, who was those wife who at one point, as hundred talking about was had dated hunter after beau's death, did something incredibly stupid. that's how abbe lowell put it when she threw out hunter biden's gun and your source, the things you do for love. >> in that instance, is that a good move with this jury? do you think and i guess the context here is they were nodding off during his 90 minute closing all right. so i think he might need to say certain things to try to charge them up and focus back in on him. but that's especially using that kind of language against hallie biden that could come across as a sexes trope to identify her as such. and then the defendant is not somebody who's engaging in stupid but the woman i'm one exactly. and with that many women on the jury, it's not a good move and it's just wave and say something think that they could just say, look, i don't like this. i don't like this defense council. i didn't trust him and part of his narrative that he's trying to sell me on includes that element in it and that's not persuasive. so again, interesting evan said a few of them were nodding off w very early verdict, you often think it is going to be a guilty verdict has just having a manhattan with donald trump. i think the case is very straightforward. it's only a week's worth of testimony for both sides. and the law is very straightforward as well. so it's three charges all around the same set of facts over lemon day period. i think they could come back tomorrow with guilty or acquittal or hung jury, and we surprised that president biden said he would not pardon his son. i don't think so. i think that he really has stood the ground of that. he needs to be separate from this and that he's trying to restore faith and the justice department and in some ways, i've criminal justice system. so for him to suggest anything other than that, would be a mistake, right? >> right. all right. thank you very much, ryan. next, we have breaking news of massive protests breaking out tonight across one of america's major allies after the far right is pulled off, a major store 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>> election results becoming clear as macron was actually meeting with president biden who may face the same fate of falling to the far right and just months. fred pleitgen is outfront is seizure done by larch, a landslide defeat for french president emmanuel macron's party in the european elections. diesel don't swap let's homeliness you not my horn immediately dissolving french parliament and calling for snap elections in france for this is young the decision is serious, a hard one he said, but it is above all, an act of confidence. >> confidence in you, my fellow citizens the call came as the far-right asked home somone, as soon as one around twice as many votes in the election as macron's party. sluggish economies in many european countries and the migration crisis similar to the southern border in the us, where the top issues for voters across europe many of the right-wing parties gaining ground also, sympathy steady to russian leader vladimir putin, like marine le pen of the asam, the mona's you now, who's been a kremlin ally for years. >> they process this some of these premier, the french have spoken and this historic election shows that when the people vote, the people, when she said in germany, chancellor olaf scholz's party also suffered for a beat down coming in third behind the right-wing alternative for germany, afd, isd the afd with big gains even after their main candidate claimed there were decent people in hitler's buffon. >> i ss and employed and accused chinese spy in his office during the election campaign we had a bumpy start to the election campaign and then really caught up in the final sprint, the party chairman said, after all the prophecies of dual after the barrage of the last weeks, we are the second strongest force europe's far-right, often skeptical of relations with the us. we'll be strong force in europe's parliament, hungry and one of former president donald trump, strongest allies in europe, viktor orban of hungary, also an eu skeptic at a strong showing i guess, to sum up the results of the european parliamentary election, we can send in a telegram to brussels saying migration, stop gender, stop the war, stop, soro, stop, rustled stop. he said and aaron and various european countries, the centrist forces lost ground to those far right parties. and just to give you an idea of how dire the situation is in some places. but here in germany, normally the green party attracts a lot of young voters, but this time around, the greens actually lost a lot of young voters. and many of them went to the right-wing alternative for germany. aaron we'll questions and real raising real questions here in the us, fred, thank you. >> and i want to go out adjacent van tatenhove. he's a former spokesman for the far-right oath keepers group, testified before the january 6, select committee, and he's also the author of the perils of extremism how i left the oath keepers and why we should be concerned about a future civil war well, jason, i'm glad to be speaking with you again because you can put real perspective on this. you know, the far-right movement in the united states. so well, how emboldened are they by what we are now seeing happen? i've been tonight across europe well, i think it does play a part. >> i think you know, what happens here ripples across the world in that happens back and forth. you know, those victories are going to be seen as a victory here too, that there's momentum growing and i think we need to take it as kind of a dire warning as to where we really are right now even with a front runner that is just been found guilty of so many charges it just doesn't seem to matter. there's certainly momentum growing. >> you see it as a dire warning. i mean, we have seen jayson to your point, a disturbing rise in rhetoric, violent rhetoric and threats since trump was convicted, axios reported another far-right group, the proud boys, wrote on a website, hope these jurors face some street justice and don't be surprised, you know, this was going to happen. stand back and stand by. >> this is far from over. we promise so stand back. dan, by of course, the words that trump himself had used in 2020. and at someone told the pro-trump right-side broadcasting network, which is something many may not have heard of who watched this program, but it's out there and at a trump rally over the weekend, they said this we're in a third world nation now so yeah, i would expect it at some point that like it'll break out into violence. i mean, at this point there yet they're using the courts against their opponents we've seen that before. so we know what's next yeah we're a third world nation now. and i would expect it'll break out into violence i mean, just and what are the threats and the talk of violence that you are seeing and hearing right now that were you most you don't really what worries me most is where it's coming from in my thought processes. and that's from trump. this really seems to have evolve past what i would call stochastic terrorism, where you have a message that goes out. it seems to be passing a threshold where i think really he's just putting out this messaging and if you look at the emails that have been going out and last week or so, the rhetoric is getting more extreme. it's according that line of direct violent action more and more and unfortunately that audience members of that audience consuming those messages, that may take action, that, that looked to be preparing to take action and that's a very concerning to me. >> when you say looked to be preparing to take action, do you really believe that there is sort of i don't know how organized you would describe it as, but that there really are those preparations that stand back and stand, stand back and standby i think we would be foolish not to take them at their word i think that absolutely there we saw an evolution of tax fixed after january 6 and during the prosecution's that happened with the people involved where it kind of, you know, it moved away from these, these big national groups and big national events to hyperlocal. going after the drag storytelling hours and such. >> but now i think we're seeing a shift again where we're going back and there is a reorganization happening and i think we're going to see more coming from that national, those national groups that there are definitely ready to reappear hi, jason. i appreciate your time. so bring warning. as you say, a dire warning that you're putting out are but thank you next, a secret new recording of justice samuel alito, plus i'm going to speak to the former new jersey governor, christine todd whitman. >> she put a reputation on the line. she endorsed alito during his confirmation hearing. she was the one there. her face was out there. does she now regret it? plus apple trying to play catch up to accompany. now, there's a company worth more than the iphone maker. and the ceo of that company has net worth is now 100 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the opinion striking down roe versus wade, explaining why he thinks compromise is unrealistic on polarizing issues alito making the remarks to a liberal documentary filmmaker who represented herself to alito is religious conservative and secretly recorded their conversation, which was obtained by rolling stone. now, we have not obtained the full audio here is a part of it that they've put out for you to hear one side or the other there can be the way of working, our way of living together it's different because there are differences fundamental things that really can't comment it's not like what the difference this comes as a leader was embroiled in controversy after the new york times reported that an upside down american flag flew outside his home in northern virginia in january 2021. it was, of course, a standard flag standard where of january 6 protesters, as well as the second flag, one carried by the insurrectionist on january 6, it flew outside his vacation home. so two different flags, both used on that day out front now for republican governor of new jersey, christine todd whitman, who introduced alito. at his confirmation hearing back in 2006, and recommended him i'm to the senate judiciary committee. >> so governor whitman, i really appreciate your time and obviously it's been a long time, nearly 20 years since you did that and you publicly vouched for alito, you spoke out for him. >> and now time has passed and you see him things he has done. you see his defiance admits this flag controversy. does this make you see him differently or regret your support absolutely. >> without question i mean, i was willing to support him because i looked back at his record and when i was appointing justices particularly of the supreme court, or any of the judges what i look for is how many times said they've been overturned did they write clear opinions and were they able to judge cases based on the facts presented to them in that case. and i actually saw a case that judge alito had actually had decided in favor of a plaintiff. it was clearly against what his personal convictions were relative to the matter of choice and abortion and so my feeling was okay, he's shown that he will put aside his personal convictions to judge and decide the case based on the facts presented in that case. unfortunately, since he's got under the supreme court, that's just seemed to have gone by the wayside. >> yeah. i mean, obviously i wrote that wrote that opinion in roe v. >> wade in the letter to congress about the flag, alito said his wife flew the upside down flag because she was greatly distressed. those were his words by disputes with a neighbor and explaining his wife's motivation to fly the flag. he wrote house on the street displayed a sign attacking her personally and a man who was living in the house at the time trailed her all the way down the street and berated her in my presence using foul language, including what i regard as the violet epithet that can be addressed to a woman. now, i spoke to emily baden. she was the neighbor and the dispute. she put up the sign alito refers to which he said didn't refer to mrs. alito at all. >> her husband are now husband is the man alito mentioned in the statement, but she by the way, was the one who used the epithet in alito's presence. >> it was not her husband, as he said, but i want to play for you, governor specifically, something crucial. she told me about alitos claim about the flag i just want to emphasize that the interaction that happened on february 15th is the one that they're using as an excuse for why they flew the flag. and i really want to hammer home the fact that that happened on february 15th, and their flag went up two or three weeks before that, at best, he's mistaken, but at worst he's just outright lying the flag was flying before the altercation that alito says was the reason that the flag was put up, right? >> that's what she lays out very clearly. he wrote his version of things, governor in a letter to congress you're not allowed to lie to congress. are they're serious penalties to that. should he address this contradiction well, first of all, it gets very tired and you see these guys playing their wives. >> i mean, khan really it besides it is disrespectful of the united states of america. that's a mirror rakus flag. it's not if you've have a controversy with your neighbor, you deal with it with your neighbor, call the police if you want, use the court's you should know about that, but you don't fly the american flag upside down. and as you mentioned before, it's a very clear signal two people who were part of the insurrection and then how does he explain the other flag at their, at their other home? i mean, is his wife just doing that without his knowing and without his caring when you assume a role like such as a supreme court justice, you have a certain standard you set a message, you set a standard for the entire court. the court comes under scrutiny when this kind of thing happens as it has already anyway, for a couple of other issues and they're having and the lack of it seems standards. what his wife, isabel quite friend. my wife is fond of flying flags. i am not my wife was solely responsible oh, yeah. you find that jarring oh, really? yeah. come on. man up at least. >> if your wife did it, you should have seen it when you walked in the door and said, that's got to come down and then make an apology. >> say that was all a mistake. but say she put it up upside down. by mr take for pete's sakes, but you don't you don't ignore it, let it hang and let the other one fly as well. you deal with them immediately. you're held to a different level of it. this is just a basic thing. i don't care whether it's a supreme court justice or not. that is so disrespectful to the, to the american flag. i mean, he won't recuse from january 6 related cases he did write an opinion in 2021, actually, for the supreme court about a flag outside boston city hall. and in it, he said that anybody who is looking at it would conclude that all of those flags convey some message on the government's behalf. he wrote that he was saying, if you fly a flag outside the boston city hall, people are assumed that's the view of the boston city hall government. >> but yet when it comes to himself, he says, it's my wife's fall it is their real hypocrisy. >> there is own statement oh, absolutely. >> i think it's very clear the unfortunate thing is, no one seems to really care and it doesn't appear is if the chief justice is going to do anything about it i mean, they've adopted supposedly standards of content of conduct, but they're going to be judging themselves and somebody inside they're going to be looking at each other to say what's appropriate than clarence thomas as a whole. another issue, so the court right now is not in the best odor, shall we say with the american people and the real tragedy here? is that when the american people lose faith in the justice system, we're going to really dangerous place and we shouldn't, we shouldn't be here. it's not a good place to be. we have to have faith in our justices. we have to assume that they are going to judge cases based on those facts before them in that case. and to have this kind of thing going on on the outside is undermining and demeaning to the court itself. >> all right. well, governor whitman, i appreciate your time and thank you my pleasure next, it started with three friends in a denny's and now their company is worth more than apple. that's right. more than apple. today, the iphone maker tried to play catch up i'll give you the inside story hey, mom, how many should i decorate each? >> have ran have lu that's a really tough call. for you. >> that's john king from cnn let's look at the data. your county leaned red eye 15 points in the last presidential election however, looking at the latest polling you're going to need a lot of those purple sprinkles how this 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has it's the hottest stock in the world. nick watt is out front ladies and gentlemen this is blackwell take visionary, dressed in black holding a thing that will change our world you know, the drill. but this is the gray cpu yeah, that's tougher to explain in an iphone and to unlock the phone, i just take my finger and slide it across hey guys, we work on something that is very important to the world that is incredibly hard to do. here's why you should care what nvidia does is vital to artificial intelligence which will change everything this is the company that makes the silicon that is powering all of these large language models. >> media is kinda everything in the ai space right now. >> it's almost like they're the only company making bricks during an old-fashioned building boo if you had invested just five grand and nvidia ten years ago. >> today, you're a millionaire. and apparently that's not just built on crazy hype. there are unverified online tales of even mid-level employees 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