and ask about the bosley guarantee i'm pete mundane at reagan national airport. >> this is cnn it's tuesday, june 4, right now on cnn this morning president biden poised to issue an executive order on the border crisis that is going to anger some members of his own party opening statements about to begin in the federal gun trial of hunter biden and two passengers and a pilot injured after they're hot air balloon hit power lines. >> that's one of our five things you've got to see this morning. and a major league baseball player facing a lifetime ban for allegedly betting on his own team all right. 6:00 a.m. here in washington live. look at the white house and this technically it's still spring tuesday on this up and shining. good morning, everyone. i'm casey, hence it's wonderful to have you with us if congress won't do it, president biden apparently will. as soon as today, the president expected to roll out an executive order that effectively closes the southern border to asylum seekers. it will enable border officials to turn back migrants who illegally crossed the border after border crossings meet a certain threshold, reportedly 2,500 per day. the executive order relies on a regulation that was enforced under the trump administration and was widely denounced at the time by democrats. now this move by president biden is being criticized by republicans as political it's too little too late. now he's trying to desperately show the american people somehow that he wants to address the issue that he himself created. how he wants to issue some sort of executive order, i guess to show that oh, no, he he really does care about the issue. the only reason he's doing that is because the polls say that it's the biggest issue in america all right our panels here for new shimmery. she's congressional reporter for the associated press, jonah goldberg, co-founder and editor in chief of the dispatch, and former white house communications director kate benningfield. good morning to all of you. i take let me start with you because this is something that the president they've been talking about this for months. >> why do it now while he's got a debate? coming up just as glad that no, i think there are couple of things. first of all, yes. of course. look, does that factor and he's gonna be on a big national stage. he's going to want to be able to talk about everything he's done comprehensively to try to tackle this problem? yes but secondly, remember, this comes after republicans walked away from the comprehensive border bill problem. probably the most stringent and significant piece of proposed legislation on this issue in decades. and republicans walked away so by taking executive action here, no biden can now say, listen, i i wanted to do a bipartisan deal republicans didn't want to come to the table and participate in the solution. and so my hand has been four first and i'm going to do everything that i can alone to take this on. so i think it's important contextually to think about the fact that this comes after that bipartisan conversation fell apart. it's frankly, i think it strengthens biden biden's hand in this conversation because he can say we tried to get this done. they were all well, i'll talk and no walk so now i'm walking the walk. >> i've been i think the challenge though, jonah, is that the president has otherwise said, well, i can't do anything about the border. i can't fix it. i need congress. so congress tries congress fails and then all of a sudden he is now saying, well, actually, i think the argument republicans are going to level out them is why don't you do this like months ago? >> yeah, it's a look. i'm actually sympathetic to the idea that the president can't give lawler well, it's unconstitutional executive orders. i feel that way about student loan forgiveness. i feel that way about moratorium on rent president biden said that the supreme court tried to stop me on student loan forgiveness, but i didn't let them. well, maybe he should let them because it was unconstitutional, was trying to do is similarly, i think that there's colorable, decent argument that he can't do this stuff at the border that the republicans were wrong about it. i think the republicans in congress should have passed the border legislation and so now we're just gonna see both sides sort of reverse and the left-wing base is now going to say this is an outrageous executive order. he doesn't have the authority to do it and the right is going to say he does have the authority to do it, but it's too little too late. >> but of course i mean, of course it would've been better to do it through congress. i think biden would say that. i mean, you saw this executive order challenged in the courts under the trump administration. i mean, this was not his first choice but again, absent republicans playing ball on this, he's left with no other option. one thing that stuck out to me in this furnish is that they actually seem to have cut down the threshold for asylum seekers in this executive order will reporting that its 2,500 a day. the new york times reported when this was going through congress that the level was actually set at 5,000 over excuse me, over the course of the week i seated 5,000 over the course of a week. so this number seems to be lower than that. this 220, 500 a week is my understanding. but this is already also getting criticism from the left and aoc alexandria ocasio-cortez. this at when we broke this news at cnn, she says doing trump impressions isn't how we beat trump. how is this going to be received on the left? >> i mean, you're already saying right. like you talked about earlier in your show about who's going to show up to the announcement of this executive order, right? even tough district democratic democratic senators are not going to show up because they both see as much as they need border to be off the table for democrats this election year, they know that the way that biden has gone about this, they have not approved it, so biden is now facing difficulty and criticism from those and tough districts. and those on the progressive left who have said that this is not the humane and american way to go about immigration. i mean, those are some and people who had a huge problem with the bipartisan, i partisan border deal to begin with. but obviously they don't see that biden needs to do this. >> well, and kate, i mean, this was how the president talked about it initially when he was first elected, this was biden in 2020 on asylum this is the first president in history, united states america, there's anybody seeking asylum has to do it in another country. that's never happened before in america has never happened before in america, you come to the united states and you make your case that i've seek asylum based on the following. on the following premise, why i deserve it? in american law, they're shedding its squalor on the other side of the river they're sitting in squalor on the other side of the river. >> he's now essentially going back to that. >> well, i think you have to look at the reality of what has happened over the last four years at the border. he's acknowledging that and he's acknowledging that there has been an increase and he's doing everything in his power to try to mitigate that. i think but i think the other thing to think about here, why think there are two things? first of all remember, he doesn't have to win voters who say that the border is their top priority yes, to mitigate some of the damage. right. i mean, he doesn't he the majority of voters who say that the border is their top issue are republican voters were going to vote for trump there's absolutely a cohort of swing voters who are concerned about it. but you know, he's not, he doesn't have to actually win those voters. he has to limit his damages here secondly, i would say don't forget, donald trump is not absent from this narrative. the way donald trump talks about immigration is also incredibly alienating to some of these models threat and swing voters talking about immigrants are poisoning the blood of the country, calling them vermin so as this conversation unfolds over the next five months donald trump and the kind of grotesque way that he talks about immigration is gonna be a factor here too. >> yeah, i agree with that entirely at the same time i do think this is indicative of a larger pattern with biden. biden was never actually a centrist in terms of the idea of being in the midpoint of american politics. he was always trying to position themselves as the midpoint within the democratic party and we can see on this, we can see on israel can see a whole bunch of things as the party moves in various ways the center of gravity moves and so does biden. and i think that this sort of reinforces trying at this image of him just trying to chase this political compromise that will please everybody in his coalition and ends up reinforcing the image that he's, he's kind of indecisive and vacillating and i'm not sure it's going to have the political valence that he thinks it's guy does it play into this weakness i think it does. the president, but i also think that there's there is a power in recognizing, acknowledging when circumstances change. >> i mean, we have seen the numbers change at the border over the last four years. he has president is trying to grapple with that and i think that's a reasonable case to make we circumstances changed. but. if your principles are state these bold principal positions, and then you change because the facts, the political facts on the ground shift, whether it's on israel, whether it's on the border, it reinforces this image that he is just sort of trying to chase the sweet spot rather than actually stand his ground. and i do think it's an image problem. >> i think there's elements of pragmatism there that actually lot of american voters want to see. but i hear you. >> all right. 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justice system. some democratic lawmakers however, are advising the president to not make trump's conviction a major focus on the campaign trail i take the president needs to campaign on his record and what he's delivered a for the american people. >> i think people see it they feel it. >> and in their heart, dave, internalize it so you don't have to go out and beat the drum on that all right. >> panels back who's right here well, i think actually the way biden and the biden team are handling it so far is right. >> which is to say it is not the central focus of their message. they have not pivoted the entire messages of the campaign to be about this verdict but they've made very clear they're not going to shy away from something that we are seeing in the data post-verdict is is a hurdle for people to sending donald trump back to the oval office. so i don't think that they need to be shy. i don't think they need to be afraid to say he's a convicted felon, to say that a jury of his peers found him guilty of crimes. that is a relevant event piece of information. if you're deciding who you want to be president of the united states however, it's not the entire ballgame. it is not it is the outcome of this trial is not something that is going to impact people's lives day-to-day and by nastic could keep driving the contrast on the things that are going to impact people's lives day-to-day, like abortion, like the tummy, like as you're seeing them do today, the border so i think this is one piece of the puzzle. it's not the entire puzzle. >> yeah, jonah goldberg here was thom tillis talking about this from the republican side. he says, quote those kitchen table issues are the key issues that are driving voters on november why on earth would we shift our attention away from that for any sort of quick fix on this decision. it doesn't make sense to me, so he's coming at it from the other direction. is he right? because certainly there are a lot of republicans who are out there seizing on this i mean, i think a lot of we're performing probably for donald trump but what do you make that yeah, i think he is on to something i think i just wrote my la times column about this. >> i think that the impact of this with voters is going to be minimal over the next hundred and 50 days and is going to seem like ancient history at some point. and the fact that donald trump's a felon. and so we're going to be just priced in as part of the chaos of donald trump the real impact of this is how it changes candidate behavior, not voter behavior. and i agree with kate, if biden makes this a centerpiece, that would be really bad if trump makes it the centerpiece where he uses it as an excuse to do 20 minutes at rallies where he just gets reinforced from his fans about how this is the most important thing that's ever happened. and he listens to all the people who say you're a political prisoner, which is such an unbelievably stupid. it's not a prisoner. i mean, whatever, i mean, just not bringing prisoner but if if he takes from this, they can start talking about themselves again, rather than sort of stay disciplined about the economy that could be a big impact absolutely. i mean, this is the thing, right? this is fundamentally an argument about donald trump on both, on both sides for trump and for biden focused on this too. i mean, it's ultimately about trump. it's not about the voters, which in some ways it's sort of like a crazy thing to say. hey, that's somebody who is a former president united states, who was convicted of multiple felonies. and that is somehow removed from our politics. that's a completely wild statement about the state of things right now. but i do think for for biden and for democrats to take their eye off the ball and let this argument subsume all the other importance of they're talking about and all the ways in which donald trump is going to have a negative impact on your life. if you're a voter in michigan or wisconsin, i do think 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