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these the deals on before there shot with jury selection is underway in the first trial against the son of a sitting president. we are live outside the courthouse in delaware where hunter biden is facing we've felonies for allegedly buying a gun while using illegal drugs. how his father, the president, is reacting and fighting words on capitol hill is dr. anthony found she testifies to lawmakers about the origins of covid-19 and the us response to the pandemic and brace yourself the thermostat please, in your house can be pretty busy this summer. >> i'll look at how much it will cost you to stay cool and how that number has risen over the past five years. >> we're following these developing stories and many more we're all coming in right here to see it a nuisance just days after former president trump was convicted of 34 felonies and his hush money case. another unprecedented and in criminal trial with major political implications is getting underway. hunter biden now facing judge and jury for alleged gun violations. it's the first time in american history. the child of a sitting president is going to trial a hunter biden has pleaded not guilty to three felony charges, accused of illegally purchasing and possessing a firearm while abusing or being addicted to drugs. if convicted on all three counts, the president's son could face up to 25 years in prison. though he doesn't have a prior criminal record and first-time offenders often get much lower sentences. the president and first lady both offering their support to hunter today, joe biden is attending the trials first day and president biden issued a statement this morning at said in part i am the president, but i am also a dad, jill and i love our sun we're so proud of the man he is today. hunters resilience in the face of adversity and the strength that he is brought to his recovery are inspiring to us biden went on to say that since he's the president, he quote, won't comment on pending federal cases jessica and let's discuss more with cnn legal analysts, carrie cordero, who's here with us now, carry great to have you here in studio with us. >> let's start first with the fact that this case is make as made it to trial. there was a plea deal in place that just fell apart. >> there was. and so a year ago look like today would was never going to happen hunter biden had entered into a plea deal with the special counsel in this case? it would have been knocked down two misdemeanors. he would have never been in jeopardy of serving any jail time. and the judge unusually, i think rejected that plea deal and throw it out. and the reason it was it was sort of unusual is because usually usually plea deals are accepted. first of all most cases in america plead most federal cases, plead out. it's rare even for cases to go to trial. and when a judge does throw it out, usually they do it because it's circumstance when it is advantageous to the defendants. so in other words, they think that the prosecutors are getting the better end of the deal. and this was the opposite of that. >> yeah, it's so interesting. i want to stay with us. i want to go out to evan perez, who was there at the courthouse with the latest reporting. evan, how are things playing out there well, things are moving pretty quickly at this point. >> jessica so there are at least 25 people have been qualified to serve in the jury. they're going to eventually narrow this down to 12 jurors first for alternate serwer to hundred and 50 potential jurors who are brought to the courthouse here in wilmington today and the question shows that they're getting are all really kind of framing up what this trial is really about the issue of gun rights has come up. also the issue of addiction and recovery. we heard from both sides who were trying to say that they're going to dismiss critic of donald trump who was in the jury pool here and who said that they the day support banning all guns she said that after donald trump's election in 2016, scene, she joined what you call the resistance group to oppose the what's now the former president. we've also heard abbe lowell say that he he was going to use one of his strikes to remove a potential juror who is a retired police officer from from wilmington, who said that he believed donald trump and particularly the new york city trial that just concluded against the former president, that that's an indication that that prosecutors sometimes bring political cases, cases for political reasons. he said that to his knowledge or he didn't he wasn't aware whether democrats also have the same fate. we also heard from some jurors who've talked about family members very personally about family members struggling with alcohol abuse and drugs and a few of them said that they believed they could set aside those those personal views to judge this case fairly. we expect this proceeding to wrap up perhaps as soon as today, jessica, it's moving very, very quickly and from talking to the lawyers we're looking at a possible trial that lasts about a week. perhaps a little longer and it's really interesting avenues. >> you mentioned this idea of addiction is coming up in the jury process. i want to ask you about that carry. >> it's i assume that you might depending on what side you're on, those are the folks that you want in the jury or those may be the folks that you want to screen out, but it seems like they're just sort of representative of the experience people yeah. i mean, well, the jury's are regular citizens who experience every type of thing and drug addiction is at huge issue in the country. many, many families all across the country have dealt with family members who have suffered from addiction. some who have faced consequences in the legal system as well. so that particular issue as far as the jury's concerned, really could cut either way, whether they view they potentially would view a hunter biden as a sympathetic person or whether they would view consequences as an important factor as well. >> thank curie, i wanna go back to what we were discussing before we talked to evan about that plea deal that you said rarely fall those apart. and the way that it fell apart in this in this issue that the judge rejected it. is there any situation now where they could cobble that back together or is it full steam ahead with this trial? >> that's unlikely. i think their past that point at this point now, they're already seeding the jury. if there was a time that the defense and the prosecution we're going to be able to make any agreement. it would have already happened, i think now this trial is underway and what the defense is really going to be looking at is they're going to focus on these issues at the prosecutors have to prove as far as what hunter biden knew at the time. so it's really really it's only a three count indictment and the fact that he had a weapon doesn't seem to be a disputed fact. so the questions here are really going to pertain to did he know that he wasn't supposed to have it at the time and that gets into the issues of what the nature of his addiction was or wasn't at that time if he knew he was addicted, i guess. >> right? if he knew because there's two pieces, there's a falsification of a form that is being alleged, and then there's whether he knew he was possessing a weapon when he is what's called a prohibited person when he wasn't supposed to. and so his knowledge and his understanding of what he was doing at that time is really irrelevant, both for the prosecutors to prove and for the defense to launch its case. >> are you surprised? we're at this point? do you think that he would have been prosecuted? putin if you were someone else? >> think that's a great question. i think that the fact that this investigation took so long to get to a point that is a three-count indictment of a not a type of case that maybe for a first-time offender would not reach this stage of trial is unusual it's a fairly straightforward three count indictment, and it shouldn't have taken a five-year investigation to get there. so we think the fact that there was a special counsel obviously as a unique situation particular to an individual who has political relevance and the fact that this wasn't just a standard case handled by the us attorney's office. and i do as i mentioned earlier, i think the fact that the judge throughout the plea agreement what's unusual in this case, and to looking ahead to the defense's case here how do they go about building a case that i would assume they're going to try to prove here. you didn't know either. he wasn't supposed to have it or wasn't in the right mind to be able to say, i'm an addict, i shouldn't have this, right? >> and so that's why i think there was a decision i guess over the week and where the judge said that the defense is a potential witness for the defense, that who would have been an expert witness to testify about the nature i'm sure of addiction and what knowledge a person who is addicted has, what that means that the judge has said that that person cannot testify. so i think part of what the defense will be doing, it is yes, they will have to find through witnesses or potentially documents, but i think probably more witnesses, whether or not there's a way they can demonstrate that he does not satisfy any of those knowledge elements. and then they're going to be also preserving issues for appeal. what about the tax issues? what's going to happen there when it comes to a hunter biden? >> well also that's a separate case that is based out of la. and as i understand that case is set for trial in september. again, a really low level in terms of the dollar amounts that are relevant in that particular case. also brought by the special counsel. and so we have this situation where you've got the son of a former president who has been charged by a special counsel in two different jurisdictions, two different trials. and so it really just highlights the fact that unusual circumstances where these could not have i've been relieved through plea agreements probably based on the fact that it was the special counsel's investigation as opposed to just an ordinary mary tax case or an ordinary firearms case, carrie, thank you so much for taking us through all that. we appreciate it. and still to come republican lawmakers turning up the heat on the man who led the us government's response to the covid pandemic. dr. anthony fauci is on the hill right now and he is very much in the hotseat and we're following it. plus president biden is set to now it's big moves on the border. we're going to explain his immigration plan and why republicans aren't happy about it despite calls to secure the southern border what justices are preparing for the end of the term. several decisions were made from guns and abortion to former president trump's claim of absolute immunity. >> you have more all ahead. on cnn news central the 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then to stop them to protect the american people yes, i have s9 congressional correspondent lauren fox is covering this for us on capitol hill or in have we learned anything new from dr. fouchier testimony today? >> yeah, a lot of this ground has already been something that republicans had been attacking dr. found qian for years at this point, jessica, this is it's really part of a months-long investigation that republicans have conducted into the origins and protocols surrounding the coronavirus pandemic. and they've attacked doctor fauci for a series of issues from everything from his guidance on masking to the cdc's guidance on social distancing, arguing that there are things that dr. fauci himself had argued were the right thing to do in the midst of the pandemic that turned out to be less scientifically sound as time went on now, dr. fouchier has argued they were in a pandemic. they were in the midst of chaos. they were trying to understand and protect people in the american public the best that they could while making sure that the vi, that the vaccine was prepared and ready to go within a year's time, but that did not stop some republicans for justice attacking dr. fouchier on every single thing that he had done. here's one of those is it right for scientists and doctors getting paid by the american people government taxpayer paychecks to get patents where they're paid millions and hundreds of millions of dollars and royalty fees especially when the nih and these government agencies must powerful agencies in our country, are recommending medical suggestions and advice and making up guidelines like six feet distancing and masking of children. >> do you think that's appropriate to the american people deserve to be abused like that, mr. fauci, because you're not dr. your mr. fauci and my few minutes no, i don't need your answer. i want to talk about this right here and democrats continued during this course of this hearing are arguing the doctor fauci was doing the best that he could, that he was instrumental in making sure that americans were protected during the coronavirus pandemic and arguing that he showed a lot of patients over the course of this testimony today and behind closed door testimony that he gave back in january as part of this committee's investigation, jessica all right. lauren fox, force on capitol hill. thanks so much. >> briana, the white house is taking aim at one of its biggest criticisms from the gop that it isn't doing enough to secure the border for sources, say if president biden is gearing up to roll out a sweeping executive action that could drastically impact asylum seekers at the southern border. and then announcement could come soon as tomorrow, cnn's mj lee is at the white house live force mj. this proposal could mean major pushback from progressives, from liberal roles in the president's own party. what more are you learning about it yeah, could get major pushback from not only progressives, but also immigration advocates as well. what we are told by sources who have been briefed on this executive order that we're told could be announced as early as tomorrow. is that the administration could effectively shut down down the us mexico border to asylum seekers if the daily number of crossings reaches a certain threshold, we are told that unaccompanied children are expected to be exempt, which would also be worrisome to advocates because they think that this could actually incentivize and actually encourage some family to send children to the border on their own. now, the president would be using an authority called the 21 to f. this was regulation. you might recall that was used by donald trump, the former president during his administration and was widely denounce and criticize at the time so you could easily imagine that psien could be criticized for being hypocritical by leaning on this authority. politics. of course, looms very large over this decision we know that border security happens to be one of the biggest political vulnerabilities for president biden and for democrats, they have been getting a lot of pressure to do more four, to get a better handle on the situation at the border. and of course, the timing is incredibly significant given that we are now just a few weeks away from that first presidential debate hosted by cnn between president biden and former president donald trump. now as you can imagine, the white house is not getting ahead of this expected announcement tomorrow, but a white house spokesperson did say this in a statement to cnn. they said, as we have said before, the administration continues to explore a series of policy options and we remain committed to taking actions to address our broken immigration system. now, the important caveat that i should note is that there could still be changes to that final text before this expected announcement tomorrow. but as you said, this is something that could draw a for the president a significant 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