90, 22% of republicans who a bonus primaries or not trump. i think it's can make >> difficult for them to vote for trump, and it might be a pointer to that thank you very, very much. we got to run erin burnett outfront starts right now outfront next, trump's next move. >> a former president vowing to appeal his conviction while his lawyers way whether to move his sentencing date. michael cohen is my guess. plus kristi noem is out front on the verdict. would she be on the gop ticket with a convicted felon? the people who have been jailed for the same crime as trump, who are they? >> and what do their stories tell us about his feet? let's go out fine good evening. >> i'm erin burnett outfront tonight, trump plotting his next move. >> the former president and now a convicted felon at bedminster, new jersey, his home there after spending the day with his family, ivanka jared melania, and baron all four noticeably absent during trump's historic trial ended up press conference or a speech today melania noticeably not present the private shows support comes as trump's legal team has just weeks to file a sentencing memo. >> the memo is obviously crucial because it's when lawyers would make the case for a lighter sentence. in this case, of course, a jury found trump guilty on 34 criminal counts of falsifying business records. and there's uncertainty about whether the sentencing we'll actually happen on july 11, as it was initially scheduled by judge muss schon. trump's attorneys are weighing whether to push that sentencing back or whether to try to push it back. right. they've got to get a request since he if that would pass. >> so this is what they're debating behind closed doors of course, in public, trump is trying to appear defiant. >> nearly nine years to the de that he came down the escalator launches presidential campaign with melania trump today, he returned to the lobby of trump tower down that escalator. she was upstairs. she did not come with him and he came down and raged, slamming the case that has now made him a convicted felon it was a rigged trial. we wanted a venue change where we can have a fair trial. we didn't get it. we wanted a judge change. we wanted to judge. it wasn't conflicted and obviously he didn't do that this afternoon for the first time, right? it's taken now, 24 hours since the verdict president biden is speaking out. here's what he's saying. >> reckless is dangerous it's irresponsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don't like the verdict i'll trump of course, does not like the verdict, but it is actually paying off for him right now, trump campaign putting out a new video tonight featuring his allies all have been flooding the airwaves today to cry foul, according to the campaign, they've now raised about $35 million since the verdict was handed down. >> i want to note that's just small donors and i also want i'll make a point that that number came out this morning. so it is likely gone up since then paula reid is outfront live in new york to begin our coverage. as you have been every single day of this trial, paula and tonight i know you're talking to your sources in the trump world and trump legal team. what are you learning about what they're doing right now and through this weekend right now today over the next few days, trump will continue to confer with his legal and political advisors about what to do in the wake of this verdict. >> and one of the first big questions they need to but dress is what to do about the date of this sentencing. july 11 is just a few days before the republican national convention, around the time he was expected to announce his running mate. but it's speaker of the sources. i'm told that there are only some folks in trump world who believe no, keeping on july 11th, that's a great way to go. to the convention as they continue to try to paint him as a martyr. and the victim of an unfair judicial system. but it's interesting though, aaron, because this is a shift in how they've approached this case. there is always a tension with the legal and the political when it comes to trump. >> but think about this case. yes, the 2024 race came up when they were trying to get the case moves. it comes up in the gag order litigation, political speech, but it never came up in the courtroom. you never heard his lawyers arguing about this during the seven-week trial, but now the 2024 race will be i'm just a factor. it will be the factor that makes sense now that the legal strategy becomes a political one, because retaking the white house is the only way trump can avoid two far more serious criminal prosecutions at the federal level all right. thank you very much. paula reid in new york. and i want to go now to michael cohen. he is of course, trump's former attorney. and the crucial witness in this case, the host of two podcasts now, mei a copa and political beat down. and the author of two books that you see on your screen, revenge and disloyal. a memoir, a true story of former president trump's personal attorney to president donald j. trump. all right. michael so here we are. last time i saw you were on the stand yes, i was 21 hours. >> 21. >> and so now now you are 24 hours in. do you feel it i actually don't. >> i have very mixed emotions. i've kind of had this conversation with my wife and my children because they asked me the identical question i believe that donald should be held accountable. i believe that the verdict was right, that the jurors did exactly what they were supposed to do despite donalds admonition for the judge was conflicted. the jurors are no good. the venue was no good only because he wants to control all aspects of the case, which of course he does not have the right to do nevertheless, i believe the jurors came back with the right decision problem though, is i have family all over the world and i've been speaking to a lot of them who say to me, can't believe that this is the united states of america, that the former president of the united states is now a felon that he's convicted on 34 out of 34 charges. what's happening over there that this is more like something you would have seen with noriega? not what america do you think michael, that because today when he spoke and he came in trump tower place, that used to go every single day. >> yeah. >> came down that escalator that you went up every single day and he said that he should have testified in his 35 five-minute speech do you think you should testify absolutely not donald than the truth are two very divergent issues. donald doesn't know how to tell the truth his lies are compounded only by leinz, the old expression, elide b gets a lie. but what happens when you've told 35,000 plus of them? he can't keep the story straight. so it was finally a smart move by whoever told him not to, because some of the things that they're telling him, his legal strategists, whether it's todd blanche, or boris epshteyn? i have no idea who the legal strategist is, but i've now coined my own sort of phrase to go against the todd blanche, donald trump gloat the greatest liar malta. and i call him a slope, the stupidest lawyer of all time because anybody that would allow donald trump to create their own strategy for a defense in a case like this. after he's gotten beaten so badly again and again and again is clearly stupid. >> all right on the issue of telling the truth and there's a lot i want to talk about here because it's important, but on the after the verdict, trump's attorney, blanche, she asked the judge to set aside the verdict. nope. and acquit trump. and the reason that blanche said this is quote, there's no basis this and there's no way this jury could have reached a verdict without accepting the testimony of mr. cohen. and we believe unequivocally that that testimony, even though it would stand in this courtroom, that he lied, there was perjury committed did you lie under oath, no. >> no. in fact one of the things that i thought alvin bragg, susan hoffinger, and josh steinglass did. that was brilliant is they laid out their entire case? even before i got to the stand, there were 19 witnesses that preceded me on the stand, and each one of them pulled the story. and that story corroborates what i have been saying for six years not one year, not to yet, but since years telling the same story. but here's the beautiful thing they brought me in at the very end, not to be as the media wants to call me the key witness. i i'll accept it, but that's not what i call myself. i am the narrator of the story. yes. and what i did is i took everybody's statements. i took documentary evidence, emails, text messages, et cetera. vote recordings. and what did we do? we took the statements by other witnesses. we put it all together, which corroborated everything that i'm saying. so just because donald trump, what todd blanche makes a statement that michael cohen committed perjury it doesn't make a difference what they say. it's not supported by any of the jurors any of the 12 jurors. it wasn't supported by the judge. it's not supported by anything other than the defendant himself and his lawyer. >> well, of course they'll they'll have to fight that on appeal. i mean okay. >> this all goes back to and i want to start here on one thing you went to prison because you lied to congress and you've said you did that to protect donald trump. >> you're working for donald trump. who did that? protect them. >> and you told me the prison takes your soul now, do you think about it in the context of donald trump do you want that to happen to him, too? i would like for him to experience what i felt. i'd like for him to experience with 51 days of solitary confinement feels like considering he and bill barr with the ones that actually caused the 51 days of solitary confinement so yeah, i would however, out of respect for the office of the presidency and believing that judge muss schon is really very solid ammonium as a judge i'm not certain that donald will ever see the inside of a prison. i believe it will probably be an incredibly strict confinement scenario where it's the same as being there. you're not going to have access to the internet. people don't just come in and come out. yeah, gil, the only differences he'll have his own food, but he's not going to have the access. he's not going to run. >> are you okay with that? >> yes. and i'm okay with it only because of my respect for the process, my respect for the office of the presidency my concern goes far greater than enjoying seeing donald go into a prison and wearing an orange jumpsuit donald, we'll talk about things that he shouldn't talk about. he will give up national security secrets. let's not forget for 40 years, if he's in prison yes, for four years, he was he was debriefed and he's gonna be debrief now to as a felon, which blows my mind if he becomes the republican nominee will, he give away that information and put yours mind and our families and everybody's families in harm's way. absolutely. >> so. >> okay. i understand how you're saying that you want them to feel that feeling of loss of soul. if he does not win the election, he could be going prison in this case, as well as in federal cases, right. january 6, mar-a-lago here's, i think i don't know if you've had a chance to think about this yourself in your own heart. do you think president biden should pardon him? >> no, absolutely not. why not? because i think it would be wrong. i think that the country deserves to know that no one is above the law and that includes a rogue former president who has done everything everything to violate the constitution. the very document that is the foundation of our democracy so he, he spoke about you today, but that speech he gave let me just play exactly what he said about you i'm not allowed to use his day because of the gag order. >> but you know, he's just sleazebags everybody knows that took me a while to find out but he was effective. he did work, but he wasn't a fixer. he was a lawyer so i still talking about you actually, you're asleep bag but you were effective? yeah. all right. >> on effective sleazebags. again, there's nothing that donald trump can say that has any effect upon me at all the days of me being in the cult of that dumpster cult of donald trump is over right now. he wants to call me a convict. one's called me a felon. guess what, pow. soldier you so were you when you and i had a conversation a couple of months ago and we are talking about the lying to congress. and you said that at that time, if you had not been caught, if that hadn't caught up to you at that time, you were still working for him, you were lying on his behalf? >> that you weren't you were wondering whether you would still be working for trump. do you think you'd still be working for trump now? >> you know, i know this is gonna sound sort of i don't know hollywood ish but it's an issue that keeps me up a lot at night. >> it plays in my head all the time. where would i be when i was in otis fill? there were a couple of inmates, friends of mine that would say why don't just keep your mouth shut, stop attacking the president because he was the president at the time meeting with the manhattan da, who came up three times while i was there. >> yeah. >> gil part in you you'll end up working for fox news newsmax a oan, or you'll run the rnc or something like that and your life will go back into something great and he'll be the president again. it'll, it'll i couldn't do it. and made a promise to my wife my daughter, my son, and the country that my loyalty for him, for him was over i had said that going back to july 1 of 2018, and it has been six years next month, it'll be six years since i made that promise i did on abc with george stephanopoulos and i'm gonna and i said, i'm just going to live up to it. i'm going to do that so i can show my children that doing the right thing. it's never bad to do the right thing on michael. >> i really appreciate your time. >> thank you so much for coming on tonight. i know it's been it's been a six-year saga, a marathon in the past 24 hours have been a sprint that it has good to see right? 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