left the courthouse back to trump tower, arriving there, that's what you're looking at on the screen supporters read it him there cheering others were there, channing, quote lock him up obviously, an echo of what he had said about hillary clinton just moments ago, the new york district attorney speaking out for the first time celebrating his victory but most importantly today, we have the most important voice of all. >> and as the voice of the jurors they have spoken donald j. trump has been convicted of 34 counts of falsifying business records. thank you. >> said from now on, we're going to hear from them in court documents as a sentencing is coming next. >> meanwhile, and angry trump rattled off the long list of complaints about this process here he is this was a rigged trial by unconflicted judge who was corrupt so rig trial and disgrace it wouldn't give us a venue change. we were at 5% or 6% and this district in this area, this was a rigged, disgraceful trial. you have a source back da and the whole thing we didn't do anything wrong. i'm a very innocent good man the jury of seven men and five women, of course, did not find him an innocent man they are convicting the former president. >> they say, after deliberating for 12 hours that he is guilty and the verdict was read. and as it was read in that courtroom people say that trump stared straight ahead, but his face was red. his arms were crossed occasionally even glanced is the jury, as they were pulled, their voices, every single one of them firm afterwards though, as he was walking out down that aisle, he grabbed his son, eric's hand and shook it i spoke to the prosecution's key witness, stormy daniel's on the phone right after the verdict and stormy was emotional. she was in disbelief. but tonight, even convicted trump is a free man. judge merchan releasing him without bail. he can run for president as a felon, but he cannot own a gun. and in florida where trump, of course, is a resident of odor, the state law prevents felons convicted in any state from serving on a jury. that trump of course, is going to appeal. but his track record in the courts is one of a loser. he and his organization have lost just about every single case, right? all the election interference cases after the election. and then trump found liable for sexually abusing writer e. jean carroll trump was fined $355 million for fraudulently inflating the values of his properties in new york, trump org found guilty on multiple charges of criminal tax fraud falsifying business records there as well, and tonight, trump still faces three more criminal cases. the classified documents case and mar-a-lago, the federal election interference case with jack smith and the georgia election interference case led by fani willis. and it may be why trump tonight is wasting no time immediately. a fundraising email went out that reads, quote i am a political prisoner. we have a lot to cover tonight. i want to begin with paula reid outfront outside that courthouse. all of our reporters, of course, as you can see with us for this special our paula, you have been speaking to trump's lawyers just in these past few minutes. what are they telling you about the appeals plan what have been hearing from them since really, even before this jury was seated, is that they expected that they would likely have to eventually appeal this. >> they never expected their client would be acquitted. expected there would be some sort of conviction eventually two, they've been planning for this. they've been raising every objection i'm trying to preserve every constitutional issue. the strategy erin has been described to me as quote, death by 1,000 cuts. the idea is to rack up all of these objections and possible problems lumps, and then throw everything at the wall in the hopes that maybe something will stick and overturn this, but aren't given this verdict the way it was. all 34 counts, unanimous ms from this jury, and the lack of success that they've had so far in litigating these issues it is unlikely that they will be successful in this appeal. >> all right, so we're going to talk much more about, of course, about the timing, which is so crucial for everyone watching american voters. but the sentencing paula that is scheduled now for july 11. judge merchan gave that specific date that happens to be four days before the republican national convention starts in milwaukee. >> so well, what happens on that day does trump's punishment start immediately? yeah. >> well, depends what the punishment is would have to know more details about exactly what happens. it is not expected that you'll be sentenced to prison, but aaron, that is isn't an option on the table. now, i would also expect that his legal team might try to push this back. this was scheduled exactly six weeks out. that's pretty much the average sentencing date. here in this jurisdiction. but given his proximity to the convention, i would expect that his legal team might follow up with a request to push that back. i will also note that the gag order is still in effect. a bit of a surprise that todd blanche and didn't try to get that removed. they've been so aggressive in their litigation against that gag order, but i would expect they will also move to have that removed some time stan right. >> i mean, it at some point, obviously it would have to go away. i understand that. you've got sentencing and appeals, but so important that he kept it in place tonight. our paula, thank you so very much. i want to go to kristen holmes also live outside the courthouse right now. so kristinn, obviously, we were talking about trump's reaction that the red face, but you how did he was leaving? he reached out the way it's been described to me as sort of two grabbed his son's hand on the wrist and shake it a bit in a bit of an emotional connection, perhaps with his son, eric how his trump and his campaign reacting right now to the conviction well, donald trump is angry and his campaign is angry and they are already lashing out politically online. and they are trying to fund raise off of this now, they do believe there are some silver lining and the fact that the wind read fundraising, sayyed that they use for donations crashed after this verdict came out and they are believing that that is because there were so many people so they will try to get a financial boost out of this. but politically, this could be very harmful for him in november when you talk to a senior advisers, they say they have been setting themselves up for a potential conviction since long before this trial ever started saying that it was election interference, that it was rigged, that was political persecution. so they say because of that, they don't believe it's going to affect them in november, but to be very clear, they do not know this is different from every other legal issue that he has faced. this is an actual conviction and if you look at the most recent polling, even when you look just among people who say that they want to vote for donald trump 7% of that group said they were for less likely to vote for him if he was convicted. that is a very big deal for donald trump's campaign, who believes that donald trump's base will always show up to vote for him. it's also a big deal because both biden and donald trump believed that in november that election is going to be decided by such a small number of voters that seven per cent of a base could be very significant. >> now we are likely to hear donald trump's rants, his calls for election interference again tomorrow he has that's called a press conference at trump tower at 11:00 a.m. and of course, aaron, we will be there to ask him questions about what exactly he feels about this verdict, correct? kristin, thank you very much. in our experts are all with me standing by. i want to go first though, to barrett blade. he has stormy daniels, husband. he joins me on the phone and barrett i know she's with you you're with or when. so tell me what what it was like in that moment when stormy finds out your there we were in the middle of shooting a movie that we're producing called vehicle it and we decided we heard from, we got to text so we put in front of the tv and recorded, though i was pretty pretty exciting speaking to her when i did she she seemed emotional. >> i mean, has she has she been able to process this? there's been a long, long time waiting for this moment. >> i think she's still processing, you know once again, i said this before. i think both ways it's going to be tough on her. now all the mega idiots are going to be coming after her and create more hoopla that necessary because facts are facts and i don't think they they see that so you know, the truth is, and i know she's there. this wouldn't have happened without her. >> right? it is her storied is what happened to her. it is the payment to her. all of it is is why we are all here right now. >> does she feel vindicated because of that? >> i mean, she's taken a lot of abuse and threats for coming forward let's wouldn't have happened without her, but also, this wasn't her case. she didn't ask for this you know. yeah. she was she was brought into this this wasn't her seeking justice for herself. she was standing up for herself early on and saying what was right. but this whole hush money trial has really nothing. it's not hers story. i mean, it's nice that the jury saw the facts and made the decision and of course, we support that either way, if they saw it differently, we have supported either way. but i think it does help with the fact that she feels a little vindicated that she was telling the truth and to this day though, i don't know if that matters. i think a lot of people still think she's leinz, so i mean, i don't know that anybody will ever people that aren't going to believe are just not going to believe they've made up their mind and that's bad. that's fine. they have a right to that. status is so i know when you install me, found out you were together, you were both you're both working what is next for her now well, i mean, i think for small not leaving the country well, that's what you told me that that might be the outcome could have gone the other way. so i hear you, barrett, you know what it was never about. >> we're going to i mean, we had a way all options, you know, it depends if there's so much abuse happening, if it makes sense to stay somewhere but ultimately that was just like i said before, we're waiting all our options so now we continue with what we've always been doing where were we're going to continue making movies. we're going to continue doing what we do and i don't think anything changes except for what we have to do with on a day-to-day basis. and hopefully people we'll finally start seeing the truth and if they do, they do, if they don't, we don't i don't know if that ever changes maybe we'll get creative. maybe now the donald trump's fundraising off all this stuff. maybe we'll see what, who out there wants to help go find us so we can pay our legal bills and handle that fairly it's about money for him, so maybe debris weeks ago and try to get our bills taken care of to severity as you're as you're sitting there and i no obviously stormy is absorbing all of this, but what's the look on her face as you're speaking out about this now i mean, she's still pretty stoic. i think she's she's really is i think it's a big weight offer shoulders at this point. >> but like i said, i think it brings another applier soldiers of what happens next now, what is the next wave of lack of, a better word, crap that's going to happen so i guess we take it day by day. >> it's all we currently do bear is there is there anything that she wants to say or a message that she has for anyone listening? i'm not going to speak on behalf or so so to say her message when the time's right and appoint that's the message will give all right. >> well, barrett, i really appreciate your time. thank you very much. >> okay. thank you all right. >> and barrett there, of course, storing with them and all of us are here now tarik just listening to him. you realize the people's lives who've been so incredibly disrupted, stormy daniels and here she is trying to absorb it. and when i spoke to her briefly, she was very emotional, very emotional, just gotten the news. i mean, to think all these years and now the big question is what's next exactly and she had to be cross-examined. >> she was on that stand for a while on direct. she was on that stand for cross and it was very jagged de in-between them i mean, it was days of going through. absolutely. so it was really hard on her, especially this part, i think so. i am certain it's a big weight off of her shoulders now, and it wasn't easy testimony because it got into details and she was trying to state her case. but she did help the prosecution make the case. that was the underlying fact. there. and she was there to prove that and now, as barrett as the question for them is what's next, right? they'd said, well, if if it was if it was acquittal, they were thinking about maybe leaving the country, but the big question is what's next? and that is the question here, ryan, because we know sentencing date is coming. we know an appeal is coming. we know they'll make a motion for new trial. we know all of those things these are still ahead definitely. >> so i think what's ahead for everyone and for stormy daniels, her family the next big step in the process is july 11th, so it's the sentencing hearing. i do anticipate that the district attorney will ask for some sentence of incarceration and i do think that there's a good likelihood that the judge will impose some sentence of incarceration. >> all right. pause on that for one moment. can i just ask you to the point that paula just made do you think that that sentencing we'll get delayed till after the republican national convention i think the sentencing will probably happen according to the speed that the trial process should happen. >> so july 11? yeah, many of these judges because in all of these cases against trump have said, look, we're going to respect the criminal justice process. we're not going to go to coding political calendar, but then they would delay the sentence until after yes, i think he will not be going to be remanded to prison 100%. he will not be remanded to prison until the exhaust is appeals. >> martha marrow, what do you think about that? do you think that jail time prison is a real possibility hear from judge merchan i think it's a possibility. >> i do not see this, judge, even with what he's gone through personally at trump's suit of focus. i don't think he's going to put him in jail. i really don't. i think the convictions themselves we'll be enough punishment in this judges eyes for this defendant. and i do think the defense is going to do everything they can to july july 11 to july or to deny the imposition of sentence, which i do expect, will not happen until all of the appeals are finalized. so even if he was given a sentence on july 11, they will stay that until the appellate process is done. he will not i think see a sentence until well into 25. >> right. so that would that would assume he he loses the this continues write that norm to this point. do you agree with that timeline? right. that you're not going to get an ultimate appeals ending verdict until post the election. >> i strongly agree with that timeline. i strongly disagree as ryan knows, we spent countless hours. he edited me putting me to the task. aaron, he made me look at ten 10,000 new york falsifying business records cases. and here's what i discovered that is why he is we love. >> that's right. >> and here's what i discovered. yes. that in the most serious fb are cases a sentence of imprisonment is routinely imposed. this is the most serious falsifying business records case in the history of the state of new york, i think alvin bragg is going to ask for a sentence of incarceration and i think judge immer schon will very seriously way that this special treatment you're saying would be if you were not given a prison sentence right. >> and i think judge mark sean will look at the case. we've debated this for years. >> alvin bragg put on an election interference case. >> i noted the words of trump's team that this isn't election interference case exactly that's what 12 americans just found that donald trump engaged in a conspiracy to interfere with the 2016 election and covered it up. that's how you get a felony. the underlying well, in conspiracy that is as serious a crime tampering with american democracy as you can have. and the judge knows that. so i think serious risk of jail sentence, not serving, and we just talked about the fundraising email that went out, alyssa. and of course, that the fund the website went down now, the trump team is saying that that's maybe because so many people were trying to donate. we don't know if that's why it went down or not at this point. but is it possible that this is just actually ends up being an incredible bonanza for him. >> it's possible. listen, i'm gonna wait to see fvc filings. trump lies about crowd sizes, fundraising, all sorts of things. but i think there's a world in which this benefits him. so he's coming out he's doing this press conference tomorrow. he's got right-wing media echoing his talking points, he has every prominent republican echoing is talking points. so this is a witch hunt. it's rigged against him. this is going to be largely from the political standpoint, incumbent upon joe biden to be able to counter message and say, why this matters, why a convicted felon is does not is not fit to be in office. and frankly, i do i think more than a statement. i think joe biden's you out swinging and also do a campaign press conference explaining why this person's unfit for office just as a technical matter, somebody with a felony couldn't work in the west wing, but you could be the president of the united states? yes. yes. >> there is easy talk about a double standard. i mean, it is one of the oddest things. >> all right. can we just talk about that moment? and i referenced it? briefly, but you were there. so trump's red in the face and he walks out and you see his face when he walks out, is walking right past where you are, terry. and he reaches out and grabs basically the risks of his son. can you tell me about that moment? that's when you see the human part i did feel a little bit sorry. part of his face when he came out out was i'm holding my head up high. i know what i'm going to talk about. this is a witch hunt, and this isn't fair. but that little portion where he did stop and he reached out for his son's hand. you feel as a father and as a son and as a family, this is going to have an impact on the entire family. and i have to say if he ends up going to jail, i think that'll be an even bigger impact and i do think it's possible. >> i don't think he'll go for four years times 34 counts. >> i do think it's possible and i look at what the judge said when he said, look, you violated these gaps i go orders the tenth time. he said, it doesn't escape me. you the former president of the united states, you might be the next president and this happens again, i might have a causeway you so he's thought about it. all right. so now to set you up there perfectly so i guess the max here for years for 34 counts four times 34. maybe you have consecutive, you also can go a lot less i know i'm not asking you to put this in stone. >> but what do you think it just if this weren't trump, but this was a situation and prison was handed down from the judge. >> how long? >> i think based on the factors that are involved in the case we're looking at something out of magen, some like six months to a year the best thing that trump has going for him is that he's a first-time felon first-time o