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well, bell, it's great to see you. >> thank you so much. >> i knew our have seen a new central starts now good, morning, everyone. i'm standing outside the manhattan criminal court. this is cnn special live coverage of the criminal case against donald trump. it's day is the day the jury gets the case. a case that began 44 days ago with jury selection. today, the jury deliberations begin in just about one. our court will open here. the judge will instruct the jury, then they will go behind closed doors and how long it takes. we just do not no, 34 counts against the former president charged with falsifying documents all to coverup payments to stormy daniels to influence the 2016 election. prosecutors say this is a case about election fraud. i do understand we're seeing pictures from outside trump tower, donald trump will leave his home their head down here. he has been speaking before he heads into the core or i do have to say today, if he speaks before going in, it could be particularly interesting. this could be one of the last times we hear from donald trump before there is a verdict, the next time you hear from him, it is possible. he could be a convicted felon or the converse there. he could be acquitted of criminal charges, either way, this is unprecedented territory with me here cnn is brynn gen gingras, who has been here since the beginning of the trial and we'll be here today to witness history. >> yeah. wednesday is actually are usually a dark de run your turn dark. dark today here and they're ready and willing thank to come those jurors to start their deliberations. they stayed late last night for those closing arguments, a marathon of closing arguments and again, getting started at 10:00 this morning. that's when the judge just going to read the jury instructions. that is of course, how they're meant to interpret the law as it applies to all this evidence that they have heard over the last several weeks is such a critical part of this process and is right before those jurors go behind closed doors and begin those deliberations, seven men, five women, the six alternates are gonna be in a separate area of the courthouse while those its main 12 jurors deliberate what we also understand during this process, what's going to happen today is that donald trump, his defense team will also be inside the courthouse, but not in the court room, waiting to see are there any notes that come forward, any questions about all that evidence that they're reviewing or is there a verdict that comes out today? we obviously don't know that answer, but it's going to be an eventful day. of course, you actually noted that there was a lot more security around here today, and it does feel that way there are certainly more bert barricades that we saw that were brought in yesterday sort of set up around this courthouse area preparing for policy sibley, any protests that could come if a verdict does come, we do know that the courthouse security is in touch with the nypd as they have been throughout this entire process. but should a burden to come down are reporting is that there'll be a communication again, that one is there and there might be more personnel, even more so than what we're seeing today brought to this area to prepare for anything that could come? >> yeah. lot of security, a lot of press here. i would say street sweepers gone by three times. so the cleanest city block in all of manhattan to say the least, or ai brynn grass. thank you very much. as we said history will be made here shortly with me now, cnn legal analyst jennifer rodgers and michael moore. michael brynn was talking about these jury instructions. i had a chance to talk to jen about a little while ago. i want to know what you are listening four here, because this hour of discussion between the judge and the jury before they deliberated it's just crucial it is. >> i'm glad to be with all over the morning. >> this is an important time and this is the time that the jury actually will hear from the judge who by all accounts, has a good relationship and rapport with them and he'll tell them what the law is. >> he's going to basically say, here's the law in this state and a aud to apply to these facts. and so your decision your discussions needs to center around how to the facts fit the law. if they do and so he'll talk about things like reasonable doubt. >> that's going to be important. we'll talk about the issues of dealing with a ten and what intent is required one he may talk about whether or not a motive is actually required. you may get into explaining whether or not there has to be some more indication about this second violation or the second law that was to be violated. and we'll also get to hear a little bit about what he talks about witness credibility an impeachment, and how it's within their provenance alone to make decisions about who they believe, how much they believe, what they want to discount something that said and how they may receive or accept evidence that did not come in. so missing evidence, what they should do with that. so he's he's got a script. these are pretty standard charges by enlarge and criminal cases. they're not crafted just for donald j. trump, but these are a lot of these charges have been rabbit thousands of times across the country. >> and so we will see, but it's a crucial time because it is a time that the jury will be listening to take instruction from the court in gen in reviewing in my head what happened in closing arguments, the three hours and closing arguments from the fence, the nearly five hours of closings from the prosecution, two things jumped out at me. that offense. all about reasonable doubt. and michael cohen just hammering that point home, it made me think that that could be a big part of the jury instructions. and as far as the prosecution goes, they really seem to be focused on the notion that donald trump cause the documents to be falsified and also they focus quite a bit on what they see as the election fraud, the clear violations of election laws why those focuses well, you're absolutely right, john, that those are the focus is in this because they have different jobs here, right? >> the defense's job is just to poke holes. >> they don't need to go through all of the evidence at trial. >> in fact, they don't want to do that. they're just trying to say listen, if you don't find this one thing that means reasonable doubt, that's why the emphasis on michael cohen, if you don't believe michael cohen, that is reasonable doubt. that's what todd blanche said over and over. the prosecutors have a different job, right? because they carry the burden to prove every single element of the events beyond a reasonable doubt. so in addition to answering the issues at the defense is raising, they have to go through all of the evidence and marshall at all for the jurors and tell them why they've met their burden here. that's why you see prosecutors going on longer because they're rebutting, but also putting this all together for the jurors. i mean, as a prosecutor, when you end, you want the jury to think three things really you want them to think. wow, they really answered all of my questions. they really rebutted all of what defense said. and man, there's a lot of evidence here. so you have to accomplish all of those things. is the prosecution, which is why you saw such a long summation yesterday michael, i'm going to ask you an unknowable question with unknowable answers here. what happens inside the jury room after jury instructions that jury goes back into the roman, then one and i've had the great chance to participate in a lot of mock jury. >> so you do watch it you know, sort of been a practice run, get ready for a trial you'll see them go back in the jury room. there'll be a discussion about who will be there for person who the lead, a spokesperson to the court. they'll they'll have a moment to just kind of relax, get things in order pull their notes out, take a restroom break. these are normal things and then somebody will start the discussion it may be like, well, why don't we take an initial loop and see sort of where everybody is. and then we can begin to talk about what we thought about each side. it's presentation are the evidence that came into the case and they might go around the room. >> we'd be happy if you get to lawyers on this jury. >> so this is something that there'll be accustomed to and there'll be thinking about needing to respect the opinions of everybody who's in the jury room. >> and you may see if one of those lawyers leads, you might say them suggest that they go around the room and say get me what you thought. what did you think? what were the strong points in and these jurors, i imagine will be repeating some of the arguments much that they heard yesterday as it supports their various positions. and that's really what to close an argument is vows to give them ammunition in the jury room. those people who make sort of your your ambassador to the rest of the jury panel. and so they'll do that. i don't expect we'll see something two quick. i think that this is a serious case. this jury hi and attention. i know it's a serious case as it relates to three, at least. and so at some point they'll they'd continue to take a boat and ultimately, i have some questions come to the court, but then we'll see as they get closer to the end of the day where they were what questions gen. rodgers, were you the most as a prosecutor from the jury? >> well listen anything that suggests that they're buying into the defense's theories, right? so let's say they come out with a question that says, if we don't believe michael cohen, is it? possible to still convict that would give you pause, right? any requests for evidence that seems to favor the defense. like i want to hear the cross of my coco in this part of the cross that would give me pause. but what you have to remember is kind of what michael just said. sometimes they're just using these things to convince each other right? so let's say it's 11 one for conviction and that one juror says, well, i still have a doubt. i want to hear this piece of the cross back and they say fine, let's ask for that. let's go so in adhered again. so they sometimes use their questions and requests for evidence to convince each other because that's what it's all about once they go back there. so as much as prosecutors and the defense like to read into what's coming out of the jury room. it's a little bit dangerous for that reason because you never know exactly why they're asking whether they all have doubts or maybe just one does reading the tea leaves, jennifer rodgers, michael moore, thanks so much to both of you. >> gate. >> we've new reporting about the phone call to police from samuel alito's neighbor and how it is linked to the controversial flag was seen flown outside the supreme court. justice it's just this home and federal investigators are making moves that indicate a possible indictment of sean diddy combs could be in the works and cnn has exclusive new reporting on this president biden, headed to battleground, pennsylvania today, his new effort to reach out and wind back or group of his winning 2020 coalition that are voters not. >> so certain to be with him this time around one of the most active you can't control a tornado. what kinds of interventions can we design go inside the store? 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>> share kate, it's good to see you. let's step back for a minute and consider why we even care about this neighborhood squabble from three years ago at the center of it, is this important symbol of the stop, the steal movement from january 6, and the protests over president joe biden's valid when at the polls in 2020 and all that donald trump did it, donald trump and his supporters did to protest that. the question was that we were concerned about starting with some original new york times reporting was why the alito family was flying an upside down us flag. that was a symbol of the stop the steal. now, justice alito told the new york times that the flag was flown in protest by his wife to some neighbors having nothing to do with january 6 or protesting the election. so this new timeline from the new york times is kinda adds another piece. and again, kate, the reason we even care about this is the justice has laid out in terms of potentially his own powers in position. and the fact that right now the justices are considering two important cases arising from the events of january 6. one of course, is donald trump's claim of immunity from any criminal liability for election subversion. and the other involves whether january 6, riders who stormed the capital would be liable for an obstruction of official proceeding chart. so that's why we care the new york times new reporting involves a recording that was made by neighbors of the alitos when they complained after a confrontation with martha-ann alito and they apparently called the fairfax county police and we're talking about how she wouldn't been yelling at them about their anti-trump signs one of the quotes that was in the times report was these neighbors saying to the fairfax county police somebody in a position of authority needs to talk to her and make her stop. and apparently, the police officers heard saying we can't we can't investigate just yelling, please call us. when an event is actually taking place. but the reason this comes into play now is that that incident actually occurred according to the new york times report in february 2021 one not january 2021, which just raises a conflict about why was that flag even hoisted in the first place, wasn't in response to these neighbors or was it more accurately conveying some political statement? now, cnn has not verified the tape recording or this most recent reporting, and we have reached out multiple times to justice alito just trying to get some clarification here, kate, about this incident that has raised so many questions about potential conflicts of interest on the part of justice alito which is what this what this however, this shakes out what that gets to is the is, is those bigger concerns that the supreme court, it's good to see you, john. thank you very much. we are on verdict watch as the jury in donald trump's criminal trial will get the case this morning after weeks and weeks of testimony. >> we are keeping an eye hey two, again, every time i turn its cue, the bus queue, the bus and outside of donald trump's apartment. >> and you see one of his sons right there standing by where they're going and to be leaving trump tower and heading down to lower manhattan once again, because it's about to get underway. we're also tracking this major league baseball has a new all time i'm career leader in batting average, but the man who now holds the record retired more than 75 years ago. the history making moves happening with major league baseball today and as we had to break, take a look at these live pictures of a volcano erupting in iceland. >> the eruption is for the evacuation of the country's famous blue lagoon. blue lagoon geothermal spot and tourist hotspots near tours hots vaud that this is the, this volcano is, this is the volcanoes second time erupting just this year. >> easy for me to say. look at the pictures we're back russia's, we're trying to spy on us we were. >> spying on them saudi friday this is a war, but secret war. secrets and spies, a nuclear game premieres sunday at ten on cnn it's payback time all these years you've worked hard. >> you fixed it, you looked after it maybe it's time for your home to start taking carry you leave invested in our home. we've worked on it. >> we had a whole lot of equity. we just sitting there get paid down the mortgage invested in

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