Keeping close tabs its on how Top Republicans answer what should be a simple question. But the right answer could do on the wrong side of donald trump also, the foreign president is Holding CaracasCampaign Rally this evening in New York City. And a deep blue state that frankly is not in place for him in the white house. But he is hoping to make inroads with black and latino voters. My source is a congressman who represents the bronx where that rally was held also tonight, the hottest ticket in america is not a taylor swift concert. Its the white house state dinner a whos who of stars dignitaries, and four president s wining and dining. As we speak. Weve got the inside scoop and well go inside the source. Im Kaitlin Collins and this this is the source election meet litmus this test, as we draw closer and closer to november, Top Republicans arent just falling in line. There also falling over themselves to appease the partys presumptive nominee. A new trend is taking place to not only cast doubt about the last election, but to also raise questions about the next one. And 2024 we are watching its Top Republicans are declining to answer a straightforward question. Or at least toasting themselves into pretzels when they are asked about committing to the accepting the Election Results no matter what happens, no, if its an unFair Election, i think its going to be bad side. Yeah, ill accept them but i think yeah. Theres no massive cheating. The 47th president United States movie donald trump, yes or no. Will you accept the Election Results of 2024, no matter who wins . That is my statement and what a statement that truly is. Then in addition to what you just saw, their here on the source last night, you saw another prominent senator joining in that effort. Texas senator ted cruz, as we remember, was the first senator to object to certify and the results in 2020 for arizona. He was also in the building on january 6. Rioters stormed inside and lawmakers were forced into hiding. Heres part of our exchange. We asked him that question last night. Will you accept the results regardless of who wins the election . So caitlin, i got to say, i think thats actually a ridiculous question is a yes or no question. No, its not. So youre asking, will you promise . No matter what to agree an election as illegitimate regardless of what happens. And that would be an absurd thing to claim. The media engages in this weird game post, donald trump that you insist no voterfraud has ever existed why does every state have laws in place to challenge voterfraud if it occurs, the medial an election challenge isnt again hey, there was no one again, only ask republicans that you look into tried to block the transition of power. You have to acknowledge that weve never seen it on a scale of what happened in 2020. And weve never seen the president refused. He wouldnt even let joe biden get classified briefings at the beginning, i recall that. So let me my question for you again free and Fair Election. Will you accept the results regardless of who wins . Look, if the democrats, when i will accept the result, but im not going to ignore fraud, but was or what have 20 of course, there was fraud, no, that wasnt. And you still objected as. Has been made clear, there was no Material Fraud that would have altered the outcome of the 2020 election. Thompson department of Homeland Security said that the 2020 vote was one of the most secure in history. Dozens of law lawsuits contesting the election were dismissed and dropped because of a lack of evidence black a standing by courts across the country trumps own attorney general, bill barr, someone who has said that despite everything that happened, he is still voting for donald trump this november described it as playing a game of whackamole to run down the avalanche of false claims of fraud that were coming into the Justice Department senator ted cruz, of course, is aware of all of that. And hes also deeply familiar with trumps false claims about losing elections in 20168 years ago trump actually accused crews of stealing the Iowa Caucuses that he one donald finds it very hard to loose donald trump guaranteed a victory in ireland. And then he lost and he doesnt like that. What donald does when he loses is he blames everybody else. Its never Donalds Fault its always somebody else. Also has fallen its pretty remarkable to see that of course crews not embracing trumps claims of fraud, then aileen political sources tonight are both san and political commentators, former Obama Administration official, van jones, and also the former republican Lieutenant Governor of georgia, geoff duncan, who i should note was among those pressured by trump and his allies to change the 2020 results. And jeff just given that you know, have you ever what im struck by is that it is such a simple and straightforward question that so many republicans have a difficulty answering these days it was so painful to sit here and listen to all those audio clips have just everybody tying themselves and pretzels i mean, i flipped the script back on ted cruz and say, just spend that hot air that you just spent trying to twist around. And it actually lay out some proof. I mean, were almost four years into this and theres not one ounce or shred approved that anything happened other than a fair and legal election in georgia and every are everywhere else in the country was or anomaly certainly, but there was never been an election thats been more scrutinized in the georgia election. And look, this is painful to watch. It takes you back to your High School Days where somebody wants to be in the cool kids clubs so bad they will do and say anything that eventually they look back and say that was a huge mistake theres not an if its when republicans will recognize donald trump is the biggest stain on our parties history. Then do you think thatll thatll happen that it is not an if but a when of republicans for grunting, how they answer that question well and in the fullness of time, i hope so mainly because the thing that strikes me about ted cruz is those are not the answers of a patriot patriot defends the integrity of american institutions of american democracy. Its geopolitical adversaries that want people to not believe that america is a fair place to not believe in our institutions ted cruz until a few years ago, called himself a patriot. What kind of patriot wont even defend the most prized democratic experience experiment in history. American democracy. He wont even defend it. He wont even just say the simple truth, which is that we do a good job in this country. Those poll workers do a good job in this country. People in both parties do a good job of counting these vaults. And we are the envy of the world. He wont even defend american democracy. B wants to be called the patriot but geoff, georgia is one of the states that altered its voting laws since the 2020 election. Weve talked to Georgia Governor Brian Kemp about that multiple times here on the show. I mean, we have seen where it led to changes in Election Laws in certain states. And as senator cruz pointed out last night, if there is an issue with an election because obviously we dont want there to be Material Fraud in our elections. Theres a place to adjudicate that to deal with that. And its a court. And what happened when donald trump and his allies and Rudy Giuliani took it to court, was they failed everything was thrown out. They were all dropped theres a process in place to modernize elections as we go forward in time and spend as long as i can remember in certainly in the past election cycle, we did that, we looked at some of the anomalies that were in place, both democrat and republican ideas came together. But thats what we constantly do in america. We are willing and able to update those laws house, but look, this whole thing started because donald trump lost and he didnt lose for any other reason than he was the worst candidate and the world and republicans specifically republicans in the suburbs, figured out hes a Snake Oil Salesman and he acted like he was a republican for four years, but he didnt he wasnt he was fake. He added 8 trillion worth of debt. What he said he wouldnt. He built a selfie station the wall instead of actually building a wall, he acted like a clown around the world. And he had selfserving interests in every meeting that he had, other than that, he was decent, i guess. Right. But we saw through it and anybody who thinks that the suburbs are going to come back and vote for him again, havent wrong. If we give donald trump four more years in the white house, its like giving a drug addict drugs to fix the problem. We know what we have to do. We have to get rid of them and move on as a party well, i mean, the question is how people deal with as and i wonder what your responses to what you heard from senator cruz there. And weve heard this from other republicans. Is they point to comments made by people like Stacey Abrams frozen georgia, and Hillary Clinton. Of course, Hillary Clinton gave a concession speech. We all watched it after the 2016 election they do use those moments though in these arguments to say well, its the same thing even though of course john kerry never condoned what was happening. Joe biden when he was Vice President and certified the election and the results of it on capitol hill well, i mean, you can cherry pick. Unfortunate comments from anybody Hillary Clinton, anybody else . Nobodys perfect. But the question is, when its all said and done do you do the thing that weve always done . You give your concession speech, you shake hands. Well, we want our kids way after the end of the basketball game, after the end of little league, they align up, they shake hands. I appreciate each other. They come back the next set sunday necessarily try and do it again. They try and do better they got Republican Party failing kindergarten now, on just basic decency, basic fair play. And i sure. You can cherry pick, but its interesting to me, you dont cherry pick anything else democrats do to defend republicans. So why is this one behavior . A couple of people and also, i remember in the year chief thousand im old enough to remember in 2000 al gore coming before the country, when it was clear to us as democrats that he had been robbed and ripped off and mistreated by the supreme court. We were angry. People would have gone to the streets in an instant, and al gore said, i accept the supreme courts decision lets move forward. It was an act of courage. It was an act of patriotism. And weve seen nothing of the kind from this Republican Party, despite the fact that theres plenty of evidence at al gore could have pointed to and none that they can point to. So what is, what is patriotism mean if you only love the country when you win, youre not a patriot and jeff thats what is kinda confounding about. This is i was looking at how different republicans have answered this. Senator jd vance in an interview, i believe with dana bash said, yeah, if its a free and Fair Election republicans will louisiana sickly it accept the results of it. But why is it so difficult for the others to just say yes . To that question because theyre addicted to the hot burning spotlight that follows donald trump and they spent their life trying to chase that spotlight for themselves, but they realized that they want to stay in it. They gotta get close to donald trump. And so thats just more important to them. And doing the right thing. This is this is crazy to watch these individuals twist themselves in a pretzels and thats really what does lead me. If were going to see a gop to 0. 0, if were going to see it Republican Party get back on its feet. Its not going to include donald trump and weve got to beat them right here in his tracks and move on. Thats the reason why supporting joe biden as a lifelong republican who plans to continue to be a republican is supporting joe biden because not because i agree with his policies, but because hes going to give us a chance to move on past donald trump, no matter who wins in this election, if youre a hardcore republican, like i am, whos not angry, just conservative. You lose either way there. Joe biden wins, or donald trump wins. Either way, we dont get our voices heard through our policies van. There was a lot in this interview that we did with senator cruz is probably 30 minutes having commercial break. There was a commercial break inbetween, but we talked that ivf we talked about abortion, and we talked about what came out in trumps trial with the national enquirer, which crews he was right about in 2016, trump and david pecker, were coordinating these vicious, ugly lies about him. And we talked about whether or not he felt vindicated by that testimony. But the other thing we talked about with nikki haley because she came out yesterday, said she would vote for donald trump after she was in a similar position to cruise. So one was who was a hearty critical of Donald Trumps and then turned around, i just want everyone to listen to how ted cruz talked about being in the position that nikki haley now finds herself in do you empathize with her . Shes in a similar position to you. I understand that journey and i was in that position now she didnt win any states, but she was the last person im standing i understand. And thats and she was in a hardfought primary. I i have been in that spot and it took some time for me to decide what to do and i did not initially endorsed donald trump and i said at the time i said, listen, im not sure what trump will do it. Office. I dont know if itd be a conservative or not, but i know what hillary is promising to do and what shes promising to do. I think would be really harmful. So im going to make the decision to go with someone who is saying he will do good things. And im gonna do everything i can to help encourage them to do that. Weve seen what do you make of that response . Van . I mean i think thats frankly close to the truth for ted cruz. I mean, we we were all there. We watched them struggle. He tried to give a speech in front of the Republican Convention and not endorse donald trump was really trying not to adorn entrepreneur, eventually came around and coughed up the fireball and now hes a loyal part of the koolaid called. But i think hes i dont think hes wrong and describing that process but i think the conclusion that he came to was wrong then i think nikki, haleys come to the wrong conclusion. Now, we need more people like our colleague here, who say what they mean and mean what they say if you tell him erica, that this person is completely unqualified in a threat to the country. And then tomorrow say, but im now going to vote for him on his team. It makes politics seem like professional wrestling, where its just, nobody is actually on the level. Its all just a game. Its all just, you could turn. Hell at any moment, its all for entertainment. And that is also destructive of american democracy, Political Parties need to stand for principles when theyre popular, when theyre not. And political leaders need to lead when its hard and when its easy. And what we have is neither we are Political Parties that go whichever way. At least in the Republican Camp Go Whichever Way Donald Trump goes today and then they say stuff that they wont stick up for the next day and that is also destructive of american democracy. Van jones, geoff duncan, great to have you both here to start off the show tonight thanks, caitlin meanwhile, here in new york, there was a rare trump rally in New York City. Not exactly trump country, of course. But trump is instead of one of the heart of one of the deepest blue states. And well tell you why. Also the former president s latest claims while Evan Gershkovich, who is the one while Street Journal Reporter being wrongfully detained in russia. Now, over a year, his fourth and final National Security adviser will join me when the competition is a nuclear competition. Spying is extraordinarily important the russians were trying to spy on us. 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