Transcripts For CNNW Erin 20240702 : comparemela.com

Transcripts For CNNW Erin 20240702

As i speak. Plus one dead and seven critically injured after a Boeing Triple Seven hits, man passive turbulence wasnt just the edges of a thunderstorm that causes deadly dropping out to 2d. We will take you inside Boeing Simulator and we are five in tehran just arriving on the ground thousand spilling into the streets extensively to mourn the death of their president has Conspiracy Theories grow louder tonight . Lets go out front and good evening. Im Erin Burnett Outfront tonight. The battle Behind Closed Doors for more than two hours to Trump Legal Team debated with prosecutors over instructions to the jury and these instructions are obviously the key to the verdict. They are going to explain to the jury what those individuals have to do, specifically to find trump guilty or innocent, or to convict him on 34 criminal charges. Trumps team pressing the judge to instruct the jury that hush money is not illegal. Well, thats true, but prosecutors firing back saying well, thats your job accusing the defense of wanted the judge to make their Closing Arguments for and outside of court as all of this was going on for hours and hours today, trump made it personal chapters. Take a look at take a look at where it comes from. Good stead again, hes allowed to do that. That is consistent with the gag order. Hes allowed to say things about the judge Closing Arguments now are scheduled for a week from today, next tuesday, and in the interim time, the jury will be at home with friends and family during the Holiday Weekend and we know at least one of them going to an airport and, you know, all sorts of Television Screens like cnn on in that airport, talking about the trial what the judge is asking of the 12 jurors and six alternates is virtually impossible because the judge said today, and i quote from the transcript because we did get it just a bit ago. Please do not talk either among yourselves its or to anyone else about anything related to the case. Do not visit our view any of the locations discussed in the testimony do not review or listened to any accounts or discussions of the case, please do not communicate with anyone about the case by any means, any lists, whether thats text or anything else, and do not google or otherwise search for any information about the case i mean, that is incredibly tall order, just the modern world, you are assaulted with information about the case when the jury does finally get this case, they are Behind Closed Doors to deliberate, likely not until next wednesday after those Closing Arguments conclude. What will happen then . How quickly will they render a verdict after such a long break now this is interesting. So when you try to look at this, you look back at a number of other high highprofile cases this one obviously it historically precedent breaking case, but other highprofile cases, deliberation is often very swift, often just hours in the oj simpson case bass he was acquitted by jurors who deliberate, abraded, yes. And four hours after months and months and months of a trial samuel bankmanfried found guilty on all counts and his cryptocurrency fraud trial. It only took him three hours. Casey anthony, that was a murder trial, not guilty and less than 11 hours. George zimmerman. Remember that not guilty and 16 hours. So that was of course, that would be two days as for trump himself, two of his companies were found guilty on multiple charges of criminal tax fraud and falsifying Business Records by a manhattan jury in the same courtroom as this one. Judge merchan also provide presiding and that verdict took less than ten hours. So could we see a verdict in these sorts of timeframes that would be next week. Engine grasses Outfront Live Outside the new york courthouse and brynn, the other thing is court was originally scheduled for this thursday. If they were going to be working wednesday, thursday, friday, maybe youd have a verdict this week but now everything is pushed off until next week. Why did the judge decide to do that yeah. Erin, the judge really choosing to push it off so that there is a clear runway for these deliberations to happen for the jurors, although he did hint in court that this break in time, of course, not ideal the Hush Money Trial Of Donald Trump will soon be in the hands of a jury we have without hearing from the defendant, at least in the courtroom that proven there is no prime instead, jurors will be left with the key moments from the prosecutions three star witnesses michael cohen, the former trump fixer and prosecutions star witness, spending 17 hours on the stand testifying. He paid adult film actress Stormy Daniels quote, at the direction of donald j. Trump. And for the benefit of donald j. Trump to cover up their alleged affair which trump denies cohen said he paid the money to ensure that the story would not come out, would not affect mr. Trumps chances of becoming president of the United States in fierce crossexamination that Trump Defense got cohen to admit he has at times bint a liar and a thief also bringing up Text Messages and phone calls questioning cohens motives, including a tense confrontation between cohen and Defense Attorney todd blanche over Text Messages cohen sent to trumps bodyguard, Keith Schiller on october 24, 24, 2016. Cohen had told prosecutors that he had reached out to schiller to speak with trump about the daniels payment, but under crossexamination, blanche read cohen a text sent minutes before the call. Cohen texted schiller, who can i speak to regarding Harassing Calls to my cell and office, the dope forgot to block his number schiller texted back soon after call me the exchange key as prosecutors need to prove trump knew about the payments and violated Campaign Finance laws by authorizing them, prosecutors highlighting a different call cohen made to Stormy Daniels, attorney Keith Davidson when cohen expressed referring to trump. I cant even tell you how many times he said said to me, you know, i hate the fact that we did it earlier in the prosecutions case, david pecker, the former chief of the national enquirer, who called Trump A Mentor pecker explaining how he worked with cohen to catch and kill salacious stories about trump, which Defense Attorneys painted as just usual business Stormy Daniels may have been the testimony that angered trump the most, that she walked jurors through her alleged affair in vivid detail, daniels explained how cohens interest in her story skyrocketed automatically attracted to beautiful, i just kissing them after the infamous access Hollywood Tape and discussions about payments began days before the Election Shin they were interested in paying for the Story Daniel Set Of Cohen and Trump Defense attorneys painted daniels as money hungry and driven by a hatred of the former president. Am i correct that you hate President Trump . Trumps attorney asked, yes, daniels replied, you want him to go to jail if he is found guilty . Absolutely. Daniels responded at the end of the day today, the judge telling both the prosecution and the defense that he will be giving his final draft of these Jury Instructions to the lawyers at the end of a thursday. Thats going to give both sides the long weekends her right. Those Closing Arguments, how theyre going to summarize their entire cases to this jury. Aaron harb brand. Thank you very much. And our experts with us tonight marco meira. And would you start with you you served as Defense Attorney on obviously extremely high highprofile criminal cases. This is George Zimmermans among them so now were looking at tuesday, the jury is going to be off for a week, wont be in deliberations for more than a week long Holiday Weekend. Impossible to not hear about this case. And some way shape and form as they go about their lives whats your reaction . I think its very problematic. I think the idea of not in these jury is not having some type of infection, which is what it will be into their deliberations by what theyre going to hear for the next week that inner of itself, its very problematic. I sort of thought when i first heard it, its going to be a week that maybe they would be sequestered and theyre not theyre going home. So thats one problem. The other problem is its supposed to go trial. Here are the instructions decide the case and just having a week in between, you lose job, you forget stuff, you rearrange up in your brain. I think its very problematic. There were waiting a week before this jury does with theyve been waiting to do to begin of the trial, which is their job to decide the fate. I mean, in arlo just to i want to put aside for a second what they are going to hear and see over the next week. Theres also the reality that after week goes by, you do forget a lot, yet Closing Arguments, but we just spent weeks listening to testimony that every day, what about this high on transcripts . So if they actually are going to print through and read it, youre looking at im just making the point thats reasonable to expect that theyre going to do that but this is, this is whats going to happen youre away for week, youre going to forget all of this. Yeah. Well, i guess first of all, id say that i think the prosecution got the better of today because the defense is last witness, costello really uploaded and became a prosecution witness. So that was a great note. I think to go out with for them for them. I do think that the jury will be okay on that respect notwithstanding a week, i mean, i think the job anyway of the sides in summation is going to be to take all of that complicated stuff that even if you had get what you heard, were gonna give you the cliffs notes, go with that. Its not just the cliff notes for the prosecution. Its even harder. Its marrying the story that they told the jury and the openings. But what was the crime . Now theyre going to have to marry up all that evidence into the framework where when judge instructs the jury on what the legal charges are, the Prosecutor Fusion can get that in. All right. So chair, you have been in that courtroom every single day. So youve been watching the jury and youve been watching how closely and attentive theyve been. But you have concern as you as you take a step back now that there could end up a mistrial here. Absolutely. I mean, they are listening to all of the evidence, the testimony theyre looking at the dock he comment. And i think they will remember at the end of the day what went on and i know that the prosecutors will sum up and tie the dots together as resolute defense. But the jury themselves, theyre going to all have to come together and i think i think we cant predict what theyre going to do. But if i had to guess right now, getting 12 people to agree that donald trump intentionally falsified these records to influence the election. We have the records, but do we have all of that intent . Yes, we have cohen and yes, we have him saying that so he said do this. But we dont have anything from trump himself and that i think is missing. And it could very well be that one person holds out and that means its a mistrial. And thats all you need because they went to up this to a criminal trial. You just need one. You just need one. But thats to acquit. I mean, never mind the hot diminish trial or hung jury, theres already these are even other issues without questions. So obviously the way it works is that you have to have 12. They need to be unanimous with respect to their finding. If you have one, then its a mistrial. I think prosecutors will try their level best not to make it. And this will be a battle of the narratives to be clear, you mentioned erin. Yes, theres theyd lay over to mock them ours point thats very problematic, but its the job of the lawyers to remind you what you saw, what you heard, and what is your duty to do. Thats what Closing Arguments about. And i believe that theyre going to come out both sides swinging with respect to the narrative. And heres what i think briefly, youll hear from the prosecutions perspective, bills try to minimize the significance of cohen and remind the jury that Everything Else tells you that trump was involved. Everything else tells you he would have the motivation to be involved with respect to Access Hollywood and on the heels of that, what allowing Stormy Daniels took them out. And by the way, karen mcdougal, the playboy model he knew about that. He wouldnt know about this. And also the sharpie and the pens and the check. Theyre going to make it very clear and theyre going to say prosecution wants to make this about a phone call and whether were not as bodyguard, what lets not just talk about the phone call. Lets talk about all the other opportunities to know on the alternative side, i think the defense is going to make it all about cohen. If you dont believe cohen, you cant convict. Hes a liar, hes achieved, hes a bp still those money he has hatred for the president. And so those are the narratives and the prosecution can craft it around the issue. All of your common sense and good judgment. Theyll have done their job and yet marc you have amidst all of this, what youre asking a jury to do . Which is to convict a former president of a crime which has never before been done. I mean, this is this is a whole different level of burden in that jury room, isnt it is going to be very, very difficult to get any top unanimity in a case like this, wed know that on average half of the people in their trumps supporters, thats not an insult or degrading then half of them are democrats supporters. But when you going to tell us six of those people, lets say well just a couple convict the former president who you are in favor of being the next president convicted of a felony, making him ineligible to do exactly what you want. Unfortunately, its gonna be almost impossible for them that to happen with this unanimity thats required. Properly. Shelves were criminal conviction i think is very, very difficult. This case has a greater chance of mistrial in any of the ones we have seen, you have covered with past couple of years among over i thought its going to be difficult, even the trumps civil trial i thought was going to be difficult. They composite there this is going could be tough for getting a unanimous verdict, right. And i mean, even if you look at just the Voter Registration manhattan, that jury would have a trump supporter on it. I know trump likes to say that its an antitrump story, but the reality of it is statistically, there would be trumps scores on that jury arlo okay. So the closing statements themselves could take more than a day, according to the judge. That is its a long time to sit and really absorb information for anyone yeah absolutely and i think there might be a temptation for both sides to make them longer than they need to be. Because that doesnt help tours either the longer theyre up there, the more the jurors are going to expect every moment of it to be something that really influences them and impacts their view with the case so its about i think having your most effective points, getting out the key facts, getting out the theories, and just one thing in response to what joey said, the defense this is absolutely going to focus on how cohen is a devious dishonest, terrible person, a terrible lawyer, and the prosecution in rebuttal is going to look at trump and say, you know what this is, the man that hired him and why do you think that is . Yeah. And so thats sort of the backandforth. And terry, what i know sitting in that room, you watched jurors and sometimes i would i would play the game for lack of a better phrase of watching one and sort of watching them in various moments and watch just to get a better feel. Now youve had so many hours and days in that courtroom whats your read on how long it takes them to return a verdict or if it ends up in a mistrial, just as you see their sort of because over time there were some interactions its between them. Not at first, but then there were therell they sort of got to know each other. A lack of a better word. I think theyre going to come back relatively fast. I think two to five hours maybe. I think they already know either verdict or a mistrial with either a verdict or mr. Thats right. I think were going to go around and take a straw poll and theyre going to say, where are you and theyll see how many are all ready in agreement. And then theyll talk about the evidence in really theyve only got 34 counts to look at and theyre all the same. And the question is, was this intentional . I think theyre going to go back to the testimony and as joy was mentioning, tying those dots together as to whether or not, you he uses a sharp your whether or not hes a micrometer manager, didnt know what he was doing and i dont think its going to take them that long. All right. Well, thank you all very much next, were going to hear from a passenger who was on board that Boeing Triple Seven, thats suddenly plunged hundreds of feet and just seconds drops so terrifying and deadly, it left one man dead, seven critically injured as we know tonight. So wha

© 2025 Vimarsana