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Loved his family, his partner, eddie he loved his friends. And we loved him in return. We will miss you, joey. We will not forget you a news continues right here on cnn outfront. Next we begin with Breaking News. The face off and drama in the trump trial as the judge holds the defense witness clears the courtroom. This is Michael Cohen makes a major admission. Did he recover and hes one of the only american doctors left in gaza. Here. Why the doctor whos credited with saving senator Tammy Duckworths life in iraq, says this conflict is worse than anything he has ever seen plus Breaking News, van and just responding to the dojs request that he starts his prison sentence, is trumps onetime righthand man, about to go to jail. Its about front good evening. Im Erin Burnett Outfront tonight. Are you staring me down right now an explosive clash between the judge in trumps Hush Money Trial and one of the only Defense Witnesses. The judge, even at one moment yelling clear the Courtroom Tensions had been building as robert costello, a lawyer who once advised Michael Cohen, started making remarks like gs and ridiculous when an objection was raised. One point, expressing his disdain And Exasperate Action By Making A Blowing Raspberry sound after a series of sustained and objections. And it got so out of hand. That the judge reprimanded costello judge merchan saying, quote, mr. Costello, id like to discuss proper decorum and my courtroom as a witness on the stand, if you dont like my ruling, you dont say jeez. And then you dont say strike it because im the only one who can strike testimony in the court if you dont like my ruling, you dont give me sinai or roll your eyes while casella said he understood. And at that point, people in the room say costello was staring at martian causing the judge to erupt. Are you staring me down . Get out of the courtroom and the room quickly cleared so that merchan could dress down costello now, trump, after leaving later, spoke about it after the core so what happened to a highly respected lawyers bob costello. Ive never seen anything like that it was a stunning moment in an historic trial that is quickly winding down. The prosecution has rested. The defense is expected to wrap up tomorrow, but not before scoring. What might have been a major win today . Michael cohen admitting while on the stand that he stole at least 30,000 from the trump org money that was supposed to go to a tech Company Called read finch. So let me just share the exchange with you because trumps attorney todd blanche asks cohen, you are shorted 100,000 on your bonus that year. Cohen responds thats correct. And then blanche says, so the 50,000 that you got to pay read fitch, you only paid the red finch owner 20,000, right . Cohen . Yes, sir blanche so you stole from the Trump Organization cohen . Yes, sir. And as the trial nears its end, trump making the most of that moment and today, making the most of every moment, he still has left in that courtroom, he was surrounded by a group of people who have been charged or convicted of crimes, Including Chuck is ido, a former leader of the hells angels . Its Motorcycle Gang who did time for drug charges. Trump Legal Advisor boris epshteyn, whos been indicted in arizona for trying to overturn the election and Ben Omnipresent in that courtroom. And former nypd conditioner, commissioner bernard karatay, who spent time in prison for taxrelated charges. Paula reid is out live outside the courthouse to begin our coverage tonight. And paul hello, i know you reached out to costello for response to his testimony today because it was so heated inside that room. What did you get well, he declined to comment to cnn, erin. Now of course, the judge asked him specifically glean now to talk about the case, so even after that rakus testimony, he is at least following up and following through on that directive from the judge. But as weve reported it looked there has been some disagreement within trumps legal team about whether it was a good idea to put costello on the stand and after what we saw today, its not clear if he did much to help the defendants case the prosecution rests on day 19 of the trump Hush Money Trial ending four days of dramatic testimony from star witness, Michael Cohen, trump, attorney todd blanche which last week painted cohen as a liar out for revenge. Under further crossexamination monday, he got trumps former fixer to admit to stealing from the Trump Organization. Blanche focused on a Payment Cohen Organized To Tech Company red finch to help create an algorithm that would boost trump in a cnbc poll handwritten notes show cohen was reimbursed 50,000 for that work, but cohen testified he only paid the company 20,000 in a Brown Paper Bag you only paid the red finch owner 20,000, right . Blanche asked yes, sir. Cohen replied. So you stole from the Trump Organization . Blanche asked. Yes, sir. Cohen confirmed prosecutors then got a chance to clean up their case with cohen on redirect i know it may feel like youre on trial here after crossexamination, but are you actually on trial . Prosecutor Susan Hoffinger asked, no maam. Cohen replied. Cohen was the only witness called by the prosecution who directly implicated trump for allegedly falsifying Business Records over 17 hours of testimony, cohen provided some helpful evidence for prosecutors, including testifying last week that he spoke with trump twice to get his sign off before making the payment to Stormy Daniels on may 13th, he testified everything required mr. Trumps signoff on top of that, i wanted the money back on may 16, trump attorneys later called into question a key phone call. Cohen had said he had with trump bodyguard keith schiller, who then pass the phone to trump, where cohen had testified that he told trump how he planned to pay daniels on may 16, blanche press cohens saying that was a lie. You did not talk to president trump. You talked to keith schiller. You can admit it. No, sir. I dont know that its accurate. Cohen responded, i believe i also spoke to mr. Trump and told him everything regarding the Stormy Daniels matter we are not asking for your belief. The jury does not want to hear what you think happened. Blanche shot back that exchange, one of the most successful moments for the Trump Defense today on redirect. Prosecutors tried to sure. Up cohens account, entering into evidence a screenshot of this video captured minutes before the 2016 phone call showing schiller and trump together, prosecutors concluded their redirect of Michael Cohen by asking, would you have paid Stormy Daniels the 130,000 had mr. Trump not signed off . No, maam. Cohen replied costello . Well be back on the stand tomorrow morning and then both sides have said they will be down. With their case, which suggests the former president does not intend to take the stand, then the jury will be dismissed for a whole week before coming back to here closings and then begin this historic deliberation aaron. All right. Paula, thank you very much in our experts were all here with me now. All right. So i want to talk about a couple of crucial moments in the court. But first, just the drama terry, the defense, they only have one very quick witness and then costello and were what was it like . How did he act in all my years of practice, over 30 plus, ive never seen a moment like this the witness said, jeez, and ridiculous in response to some of the objections that were being sustained. And the first thing that judge said and this was in front of the jury was excused me excuse me, and everybody eddie fell quiet because ive never heard the judge say anything like that thats when he excused the jury thats when he said to costello, i want to talk to about decorum in my courtroom. You dont say jeez, you dont give me the sayyed i and we were sitting there and thats when the judge said are you staring me down . And he cleared the courtroom. There was so much confusion, aaron, we didnt know what to do. And the Security Guards were saying get up, get out, and some of assassins, fair. The courtroom meant everybody all the journalists as well, correct . I mean, is this an unprecedented sort of thing its a lawyer to see thats in prison thing for a lawyer to see. And its an unprecedented thing for a lawyer to behave. I mean, this mans are lawyers, former prosecutor. Yeah. Yeah. So for him to do that in such a high stakes trial in which hes basically it for the Defense Witnesses. We dont know of any others coming. Its absolutely remarkable and its also remarkable because he needs credibility. And if anything, i think he actually paints a pretty positive picture from Michael Cohen because Michael Cohens testimony is, i didnt trust this person i didnt like this person and i certainly wasnt going to tell this person, mr. Costello the secrets that i had about trump, and that seems pretty consistent with huli now see, at least in this moment. Because silhouettes i so arlo, i mean, you know, todd blanche, and obviously hes i obviously trumps intimately involved, but todd blanche is the one making the decision. Whos on the gonna be on the stand . Yeah. The options of who we could put to mount a defense was castello the right choice . I mean, so far id have to say putting on defense case at all seems like a mistake because this is the end and a lot of Times Defense lawyers dont do that, right . And they dont do it because they then get to go to summation and they say, its not our job to put on a case. They have to prove it Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and they havent. And the judge backs them up. The judge says, ladies and gentlemen, thats right. But if you do put on a defense case, you get the same instruction from the judge. But theres just something the jurys now heard of defense case. There are sizing the defense up and then they go, wait. This one was this big and this one was this big, right . Right. And so you have to have something and this one didnt seem to have enough and maybe even hurt them. So how how did costello ill go over with the jury you know, thats the open question, erin. It is, but i would not believe he went over well, right. Is a trouser about Human Interactions there, about narratives about telling your story. And you have to pick the vehicles to tell that story. And having a person like this i who apparently had an ax to grind, whose glaring whos engaged in completely inappropriate decorum rolling and making noises of disgust. Absolutely stick to the merits of the case. If your issue is listen, cohen said to me the trump absolutely didnt make any type of was aware of any type of payments, certainly didnt make a know anything about it. You know, i had nothing on trump stick to that. Do it in a way thats courteous. Do it in a way thats professional, do it in a way thats relatable to the extent you dont do that and really cost your client. I mean, he was trying to say basically that he had cannes to cohen and asked, do you have anything on trump, do anything on trump . And cohen said left, right, and center. I have nothing. That was the Point Costello was trying to make. When you watch the totality of it today though, you watched when youre looking at the jury did they i mean, i know they send their they pay such careful attention. They dont generally show emotion. Did they show their hand on this when i watched it, i think they were more alert and into because castello is a character just like cohen is a character, and just like stormy was a character, they were definitely on the edge of their seat now, i think that the point was cohen told me castello said that trump had nothing to do with this, that he wasnt involved in the payment. I believe the jury understands that that was what cohen said. Then because he was still defending trump, that doesnt mean thats what he feels now and he has basically he has a change of two. All right. So a couple of other things. One thing this is being treated as the big admission as i laid out that Michael Cohen admitted to stealing money from the Trump Organization that he was supposed to repay this tech company 50,000. You only repaid 20 and he admits to sealing the 30,000 todd blanche blanche gets him to do that very clearly today, but its interesting, ryan hold on. Im pulling it up because may 13. So we could go he admits to doing this in a different way. It was under direct, so its sort of did you why did you do it . Because thats what was owed and i didnt feel mr. Trump deserve the benefit of the difference. Right. So it was sort of a motive, but it was presented differently today. Was it a bombshell as some are saying it or not . I dont think theres Big Of A Bunch in part because the prosecutors did draw it out initially, so its not like oh, the prosecutors were hiding this from you and now youre hearing something new to the jurors. Rather, the prosecutors were ready, head Michael Cohen at mit that he stole this money, that exact amount from the exact company and the exact relationships. So thats one part of it. Yeah. Second is also kinda consistent. With who we know Michael Cohen to be at this point, what hope hicks said, hes not the kind of guy that would spend 130,000 of his own dollars and not tell the boss he would only do that if he was going to be reimbursed. So thats the same kind of character thats stealing 10,000 in this exchange at the same time, i do think the defense can make something of it and they surely will in their closing summation, they will say, look at this person, he is not a loyal person whose own and getting authority from trump. Hes stealing from trump. Hes doing things behind his back. Hes rogue, and trump doesnt even know about it at the time. Thats their theory of the case. And theres now a week and theyre gonna be in tomorrow right now if they wanted, right. They could have done their Closing Arguments and deliberated a couple of days as we can maybe been done, but thats not how its going to go because they have wednesday its off and so its gonna be a full week where they hear all this and they peace out for a week and then they come back and get closing. Who benefits from that . I mean, i generally think the party that benefits is the one that has the stronger story to tell because all of the trees and chaos of the last few days, they become a forest as the jury gets a little moment in time and ultimately, i think the prosecution will spend its time trying to put together the best pieces of evidence and testimony match their story. And they have i think a story thats pretty plausible that whether the jury accepts are true. I dont know, but that trump was worried about the election Michael Cohen was the kind of guy who would fix these things and im not sure the defense has they have reasonable doubt arguments, but im not sure theyve really offered. So how much pressure is on then tomorrow four, youve got to finish gsa. Youve got redirect, youve got youve got things to happen, but then you have this week off. So how important is it . Yeah, its very important, aaron, just to sort of crystallize the arguments to get them organized for closing and to deliver what is your narrative . And i think the problem executional spend a lot of time on the defense, wants to talk about this. One phone call they want to talk about that. Let me focus. You want all the things which would suggest that the president knew exactly what this was all about. And here they all boom. And so i think the prosecutors will lay out in pretty organized fashion all of the reason and the basis that donald trump was aware of the reimbursement orchestrator, the reimbursement was in on everything involving that and you dont only have to credit cohen for that disregard him. But look at all the other things which would suggest last point, aaron and that is the jury will be instructed that they can make reasonable inferences that is using your common sense and good judgment may be cohen is the one that directly ties trump. Lets talk about ladies and gentlemen, all the things that indirectly tie him, right . So i think theyll focus on that big week ahead in terms of Organization Preparation and planning. And well see how they laid out. Come tuesday, see if theres a Beyond A Reasonable Doubt. All right. Thank you. 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