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It turned into a methodical this section of code when by defense attorney todd blanche blanche presented Text Messages between cohen and trumps bodyguard, Keith Schiller from october 24, 2016. Now on monday, cone to characterize these exchanges with schiller as a way to just to get to then candidate trump, to get trump on the phone and get final approval for the Stormy Daniels payment scheme. Instead, the texts do not speak of that. Rather they show that cohen wanted schillers help with a 14yearold crank color who had apparently been antagonizing cohen for days are short time ago, cohens texts with the 14yearold were shown that were shown in court were released cohen text. This number has just been sent to Secret Service for your ongoing and continuous harassment to both my cell as well as to the organizations main line the person then responds, it wasnt me. My friend told me to call. Im sorry for this. I wont do it again. Cohen then replies, you will need to explain this to Secret Service as we have been receiving dozens of these Harassing Calls over the past three days. If you are a minor, i suggest you notify your parent or guardian the person responds in all caps. I didnt do it. And then texts. Im 14 so bizarre sorry. Were joking. Former federal former federal prosecutor elie honig and Michael Cohens former attorney currently go adviser. Lanny davis. So were you were you surprised the defense . Appeared effective, and undermine cohens credibility about that phone call with Keith Schiller. I mean, when he testified earlier in the week that call was portrayed as it was called Keith Schiller to get to trump. There was no mention of this 14yearold and wanting to talk to Keith Schiller to trace the number and figure out some way to get back with this person so no, i wasnt surprised and i dont think the jury is going to be persuaded by those kinds of mistakes are making. Michael cohen, the accused, and everybody having fun calling him a liar on television. This case is about, as i first was introduced to it by the price securities by firstday this case is about documents testimony, and corroboration. Michael cohen is a confirming witness donald trump loves to change the subject in his lawyers love to change the subject. They want Michael Cohen to be the one whos indicted and accused. So let me just remind you what weve seen in evidence so far. Im not going to speculate or downgraded juries focus on facts. I dont disparage juries, but im also not a trial lawyer, so maybe travelers who do Disparage Jury Juries are correct, but i think that you have to remember the first element of this crime was corroborated. You dont need Michael Cohen . Yeah. David pecker you add hope hicks everybody knew that the money being paid to Stormy Daniels was for the campaign. It wasnt to protect him from being embarrassed in front of his wife. Thats what the testimony has been so far and the second most important part of the climb is did donald trump lie when he said there were legal fees . Well, there a hot document, meaning a document thats very powerful and the handwriting verified to be Allen Weisselberg, in which he has three categories of money that michael spent on behalf of donald trump won was 130,000 written down in his handwriting times two and the three categories to edit up to 420,000 divided by let me just do it because weve gone this is all very clear. But Michael Cohen sorry Michael Cohen is clearly important to the prosecution i mean, hes a critical witness for the prosecution in order. I mean, hes really the only one who can speak to whether donald trump was aware of how this stuff was going to be build the full nature of this scheme. Hes the one who gives the testimony, which is why theyre devoting so much time and taking the risk of putting him on the stand. I know it doesnt go well for Michael Cohen if hes shown to be lying i mean, youre not doesnt it seem like today at the very least in the end of this morning session, he seemed to be caught in the very least, a mistake in memory hey about this phone call that he had just testified, not some old lie, but this testimony from in front of this jury isnt that a big deal i cant predict. I dont think juries will find it a big deal compared to the corroborating evidence of Allen Weisselbergs document that proves that if i was going to say use its worth 20 divided by 12 equals 35,000. Those are the checks that are sitting president each month wrote to Michael Cohen. Its the mad stupid i was going to do a joke before anderson about James Carville is the economy stupid . Its the mat that Allen Weisselberg, that document peruse these could not have been legal fees. He divided did port 20 by 12. He came up with 35,000 and the sitting president in the oval office wrote Michael Cohen, 35,000 checks and on his personal bank account and paid him 35,000 those werent legal fees if theyre not legal fees, they were reimbursements that makes it a crime. So those are the documents thats the testimony of third parties, including hope hicks. Very favorable to mr. Trump. And so whether Michael Cohen made mistakes or is shouted at by hello or, or whatever happens that is entertaining or a gotcha moment, which i can definitely understand. Anderson, the documents speak for themselves testimony speaks for themselves, and we know that the jury will ultimately here the prosecution, some the case focus on the weisselberg argument. Do you think they never said im sorry. Go ahead, caitlin lanny, its kaitlan that answer that you just gave to anderson. There was a look a little over a minute, close to 90 seconds. That is how long the phone call was with Keith Schiller that night. And what Michael Cohen argued today is that he simultaneous so weve talked about the okay for the hush money deal and these print calls that he was getting from a 14yearold. I mean, is the jury really going to find that credible that in 96 seconds they had both of those conversations i think it could be that the jury will hold that against Michael Cohen is not being truthful, but its not going to change where i said this case is about documents that speak for themselves. The weisselberg document is more powerful for the jury to look at to prove that donald trump lied, whos by the way the one whos indicted, not michael cohn whether michael us about holding lanny, thats right. But you also mentioned your the other night that Michael Cohen spent over 100 hours with prosecutors, not just this office when this district attorney, but in general, in the new york and new york did these prank calls ever come up in those conversations . And this is what he was worried about that night. So you know, im a lawyer Behind Closed Doors with prosecutors. I wasnt with the federal prosecutors these prosecutors. I cant answer that question. Let me just say that the story that Keith Schiller is saying now, lets see if he testifies and then well see whos believable. And thats up to the jury. But i also am affecting donald trump to testify because he said i would testify. Hes never taken it back. So maybe well get a chance to see what donald trump says. Hes not exactly known for truthfulness, but no, michael is definitely suffered these things and arrows when he came to me, he was known to be a liar for donald trump i dont want to go on another 90 seconds, katelyn, sorry but youre allowed to go 90 seconds. I do. Different to it as a question as well. But did you think they should want to call them . I mean, it sounds like what youre saying lanny, is that all this evidence was already in do you really think they shouldnt have called Michael Cohen as a witness i think they had to because hes a corroborating witness to testimony, documents, emails, Text Messages, the timeline. So he is the narrator confirming what is already in evidence. Now if they attack the narrator, they changed the topic i can make it about the narrator confirming. And of course, the drama of the case is made by Michael Cohen. And when a lawyer shouts at him, you lie. I wanted to see if he puts up a witness and well see whos telling the truth. But of course, he had to testify jeffrey, but all hes doing is confirming the testimony of others and documents dont lie he has a question im sorry, i dont have a question. I have something to say. Oh, elisa Michael Cohen got blown apart today. Lets be real clear about that. And what was different about this than all his other lives that hes told over the years, all his things he pled guilty to his leinz, the congress is this goes to the heart of his testimony. Prosecutors, by the way, whatever happened to the burden of proof, where are these Defense Lawyers saying whos got a better story . Its not whos got a better story. That prosecutors have to prove their case Beyond A Reasonable Doubt if the jury decides Michael Cohen lied, they have every right to reject his testimony. This case is over theres only two possibilities for what happened today. Michael cohen lied about this meeting which seems to be a conclusion that a lot of people were in the courtroom or draw or drawing or he made a massive mistake. But you know it when youre a prosecutor and youre putting your star witness on, you dont get a whoop. See, you dont get an oops. We messed up. They prepared Michael Cohen to an inch of his life. Lanny davis said hundred plus hours, they went through everything with them. They saw that phone call 8 02 p. M. Michael console. Yeah. Thats oh, yeah. Yeah. Ghraieb to badly. Its reflect on your operation cooperation. They miss those texts. Prosecutor screwed up because if they had seen those texts, lex poorly on the prosecutions not this is not just about how a jury feels about Michael Cohen. This is a very sad thing for the prosecution and ultimately what youre going to hear in summation is all this nonsense about witnesses and so forth if if the jury doesnt believe that the prosecution was wellfounded and starch to hate the governments case this is an area where the prosecution you know, overlooked something major. And missed the boat or sponsored something without taking him through this and try to turn this conversation into more than it really was, which is to Say Something other than it really was thats not just a problem for the witness. Thats a problem for the process that is true. But ellie, i was there, Michael Cohen did not get blown apart. They landed one distinct minority. I talked to people when i was there alone. I would feel the same way they landed one punch on his shirt that is its not enough in a crossexamination like this, youve got to land multiple punches. This is a witness. Now let me speak unless your job is a witness who had bonded with this jury, it is a witness who has been corroborated by more than 18 days of Trial Testimony by other witnesses. Many Haast Delta Cohen positive for trump. Theres a larger mosaic of evidence. Now, ive gone on for 90 seconds how much want to make that 0. 2 . You see how much you can pack into 90 seconds. There is room to talk about a 14yearold frank color Hush Money Payment on cable but this was a enough norman. Lets say possible by certainly not enough, but but ellies point is, whatever happened to Beyond A Reasonable Doubt and the presumption of entity that governments room, this simple cases plants is not enough to create reasonable doubt across the entire case. It was one time that blanche tagged him. Did he tagged them . Yes. Was it a punch on the chin . Yes. Did he knocked Michael Cohen out . No. Cohen stood his ground. He said in there, will you say you lied . I did not lie. And cohen was much stronger in the afternoon the prosecution was ahead on points. Its a closer case now, they needed a knockout punch. They what would a knock out to be, if not, that would tell me what would be your series of lies. And it would be shall make you need checking Michael Cohen would be getting him to retrench. He didnt back off his point and your norm, no ones listening would you, norm eisen send a man to prison take away his liberty based on the testimony of Michael Cohen this is not bow yes or no. Unlike unlike the witnesses on the stand, i dont have to accept that your yes or no insistence. Are they this is not about hope this testimony, as we have jury sloan. They get. To decide vast amount of operation for Michael Cohen. One bad answer is not going to sink because the case and let me let me agree with for a sec im. Going to agree with norm for a second. Its a way past 90 seconds. There is substantial corroboration for parts of this transaction, but ultimately, let me ask you this. I actually dont know. Im interested in your answer. If the jury decides gets back in that Deliberation Room says were not going to credit Michael Cohen eliminate him, pull him out of the case. Is there enough left to convict know okay so theres the problem im going to go back to lenny. Lenny, youre at a disadvantage because youre on remote, so its hard with this. So i know youre probably chomping and the i want to give you 90 seconds and then we got go but first of all totally shocked at elie honig makes declarative statements of guilt. Its just shocking, but no surprise there. Thank you, ellie, what kind of normal thank you. Is this . Thank you thank you norman, for reminding everybody that michael has stood up very well. And if youre a juror you can see an imperfect witness and still look at facts as some lawyers said, they dont look at back. So let me just end by this Note Corroborating testimony on the money being about the campaign is nearly 100 . And thats what Michael Cohen has testified to. The jury doesnt have to believe im on that. We have david pecker. We have hope hicks, we have others on the issue of whether they were legal fees or reimbursements, which is what the key second element of the crime is whether they were falsely large as legal fees. We do know from Allen Weisselbergs handwriting that he took a number doubled it, and divided it by 12 as James Carville would say, its the mat stupid theres nothing about legal fees and that math so those two elements of the crime have been proven Michael Cohen can be attack all that you all rightfully might say that he wasnt perfect. But theres no doubt that weisselberg wrote in his own handwriting 420,000 divided by 12, and that 420 from three buckets of money doubled up because of income tax thats the case. And whatever you say about Michael Cohen, he has stood up to corroborate corroborate is a corroborating witness. Thats my view. Lanny davis. I appreciate your time and norm eisen as well. Thank you, norm as gripping a court with you coming up well examine how the former president s defense team tried to tried to punch holes and Michael Cohens testimony continually throughout the day will finally just got the full transcript. 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