Youre likely goal to chop them up, what isnt political purposes . Alex morgan, julia, the white house. Thanks very much. Im alex mark where here in the situation room, Erin Burnett Outfront starts right now outfront next fireworks. The Trump Legal Team tries to tear Michael Cohen story apart. Casting serious out on several fronts did it move the jury . Plus trump hurt black people . That is the message. Biden is putting out there tonight is it resonating to radio hosts who spoke to the president about the subject or Outfront PlusBreaking News this our nato now closer to sending troops to train in ukraine its putin makes gains towards one of the biggest cities in ukraine. Cnn is on the ground, on the front lines. Lets go out front and good evening. Im Erin Burnett Outfront tonight. Trump taking aim at cohen. It was an explosive day in court and trump was all in he knew today could decide the case. As trumps team turned up the heat on Michael Cohen. Trump was present like he hasnt been yet for this trial the whole day, staring down the man who once said hed take a bullet for trump. Trumps eyes were opened. He was leaning in, he was fully engaged. Trump inside are telling me earlier today that trump most likely knew what attacks were coming from his lawyer and was eagerly awaiting cohens reaction jen there was one big moment today. Trumps lawyers bringing up a crucial call that cohen made just weeks before the election. A crucial one minute 36 second call, the cohen says, was when trump had personally okay. The Hush Money Payment to Stormy Daniels cohen has acknowledged that this call was actually made to Keith Schillers phone, who was of course, trumps body garden. Cohen says, well, schiller is always with trump and i called him and he handed the phone to trump but trumps lawyer, Todd Blanche Prop is call up with a surprising twist, casting doubt on whether cohen actually did speak to trump and casting doubt on the entire content of the Phone Conversation itself. Blanche, producing texts that showed cohen was Texting Schiller about an unrelated matter of 14 yearold who coincide had been harassing him just before The Phone Call all know ttx about Stormy Daniels, the Timeline Blanche laid out, show the text was sent to call was happened after cohen even followed up about that 14yearold blanche was trying to show that the call was actually about the kid cohen has said under oath, under direct examination that the purpose of the call was, quote, to discuss the Stormy Daniels matter and the resolution of it. He mentioned nothing about any other topic but after blanche laid out the Text Messages about this 14 yearold cohen today acknowledged for the first time that the call wasnt only about Stormy Daniels, and that he did speak to Keith Schiller in addition to donald trump Phone Conversation, he acknowledged that to todd blanche today saying part of it was the 14 yearold, but i know keith was mr. What mr. Trump at the time. And there was more potentially than this blanche responded that was a lie. You did not talk to President Trump. You talked to Keith Schiller. You can admit it cohen responded, no, sir. I dont know that its accurate. Blanche was pacing back and forth. His arms were flailing, saying a oneminute and 36 second phone call and you had enough time to update schiller about all the problems you were having and also update President Trump about the status of the Stormy Daniels situation . Well this, is, a crucial day and back to the timing of a minute and 36 seconds. It really does depend how the jury sees it. Its either not enough time to talk about two topics, any way, shape, or form, or it is. I mean in television a minute, 36 seconds is a hell of a lot of time. Its an entire report or story. If a topic has already had a lot of backandforth, a minute, 36 seconds is a lot of time to resolve a payment and talk about an unrelated issue. It depends how the jury sees it blanche, today told the jury that the only way to see it is the code is a liar and his version of the call was a lie. In fact, blanche repeatedly called cohen a or to his face, just as trump publicly did when the trial began in violation of his gag order what are they going to look at all the lives that gone the last drought, that current line than the last trial so he got caught lying pure lime Michael Cohen is a convicted liar and hes got no credibility whatsoever. The question is whether in that courtroom today, Blanche Cast Reasonable Doubt in the mind of just one juror. Thats all it takes. Paula reid is out live outside the new york courthouse where she has been from the beginning covering this trial every day, and paula, a truly incredible day in court, the entire case could hang on. What happened there today. Yeah, absolutely. As we reported exclusively last night, on outfront Defense Attorneys as zeroed in on cohens recollection of that conversation, they came armed with receipts and let the jury with a lot to think about over the next three days, but weve also learned that they may call Michael Cohens former attorney, rob costello to continue to pile on with their attacks on Michael Cohens credibility Michael Cohen, the only witness being called by the prosecution who can directly implicate donald trump in an alleged Hush Money Scheme has crucial parts of his testimony under returning to for the stand for a second day of crossexamination, Trump Defense attorney todd blanche, Grueling Cohen about all the times he has lied painting him as unreliable and out for revenge after not being given a job in the trump white house. You were disappointed that after all the work that you had done for President Trump for 9. 5 years. Nobody including President Trump, offered you a position in the white house blanche asks cohen, after showing him Text Messages he sent to his daughter about potentially working in the Trump Administration thats not accurate. Cohen insists and he began to grow agitated as trump lean forward in his chair behind the defense table. At time, staring intently at his former fixer. The Trump Defense then reached a crescendo, turning to a key moment of cohens testimony a 2016 phone call, he says he had with former trump body man, Keith Schiller, who says he then pass the phone to trump. Cohen says he told trump on that call how he planned to pay Stormy Daniels to keep their alleged affair quiet, but referencing phone records, blanche asked this is the call that you testified that on tuesday. It was to talk to President Trump about the stormy deal and to move forward. Cohen was then shown a text message she sent to schiller the same night about a 14yearold prank caller who had been harassing him, cohen texted schiller who can i speak to regarding Harassing Calls to my cell, an office the dope forgot to block his number. Schiller texted back soon after call me blanche, then raised his voice, asking cohen to confirm the call was not actually a conversation with trump about Stormy Daniels, but about the 14yearold prankster, cohen, defendant himself saying part of it was the 14 yearold, but i know that keith was with mr. Youre trump at the time. And there was more potentially than this blanche shot back that was a lie. You did not talk to President Trump. You talked to Keith Schiller. You can admit it cohen calmly responded. No, sir. I dont know that its accurate blanche responding a oneminute and 36 second phone call and you had enough time to update schiller about all the problems you were having and also update President Trump about the status of the Stormy Daniels situation because you had to keep him in formed. I always ran everything by the boss immediately. And in this case, it would have been saying everything had been taking care of its been resolved. Cohen answered, he maintained his composure. I believe i also spoke to mr. Trump and told him everything regarding the Stormy Daniels matter. We are not asking for your belief this story does not want to hear what you think happened. Blanche reported the prosecution that objected. The judge sustained. And Michael Cohen shook his head we got new information at the end of the day today about when the jury might get this case and begin deliberating. Theres no Court Tomorrow and next week earn it could be just a two day week. Theres court on monday, theres court on tuesday, but theres never any court on wednesday and on thursday, a juror has an appointment and theres previously no court on friday for the memorial day weekend. The silver lot of work to do so at this point, almost impossible to have a verdict next week. And also likely that the jury wont even begin deliberations until after memorial day. Alright, paula, thank you very much. And just to think about how many days, wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday, sunday, monday, six days away . From this. And then to come back in that is something else. All right. Are experts are with me. So joey jackson, i actually want to ask about that, but i want to start with what polo is laying out. We were going through here. This was a big day beyond the big day. This was a colossal issue and a colossal mistake by the prosecution. And heres why we talked a lot about the issue of corroboration. And that is that the prosecution getting ahead of things and having everyone corroborate with Michael Cohen will say what they cannot corroborate is what you say on a phone call when youre not a party to The Phone Call, hes on The Phone Call. And who else is schiller . The body man, right. For donald trump and potentially donald trump. Well, guess what . Donald trump has, right . Not to testify. Well see if he does shiller will know what he says. If he testifies and that is Michael Cohen never said a word about Stormy Daniels so whats the point . The point is that all the corroborate is can get people into the room, right . Michael cohen gets you at the table. And on this critical issue with respect to telling your boss about something in a 96 second phone call and then you have the ronna, what these tax messages parallel to The Phone Call where youre expressing a concern which is wheatley different. Its problematic. Final point, the prosecution could have laid the foundation on this in their direct case. Sir, you made a phone call. Is that right . Right. Tell us about The Phone Call, but it seems to me there were Text Messages because you had other concerns. What what are they this 14 yearold was harassing me, but in that phone call, this is what im saying. The runup to his testimony. So the jurys condition to hear it having not said that and having made the call completely about the payoff to Stormy Daniels along the timeline is troubling problematic and puts a major hole and the case was a disaster. The fact that the prosecution did not get ahead of this, i would be very concerned about about that. I mean, so because all of this was available and discovery, they all had the call logs and the Text Messages and cohen did sandi direct that this call was about Stormy Daniels . He mentioned nothing about there were no Text Messages brought up. Theres nothing much about 14 yearold and today all of a sudden its oh, yeah, it was about both things. And keith and i did talk about this and then i handed the phone to the president. I mean, that is a totally different story. Its very different. Just to look back on what happened on monday when the prosecutors asking Michael Cohen the question, they say, do you know why you were reaching out to mr. Schiller in the evening of october 24, 20,016 yes. Why . Because i needed to speak to mr. Trump and i knew that keith Keith Schiller was with him. Why did he need to speak to just a term that point to discuss Stormy Daniels why did you call him to discuss Stormy Daniels today admit at a minimum, he called schiller in order to discuss the 14yearold within 30 seconds of The Phone Call ending. He then Michael Cohen texts schiller, the phone number for the 14 yearold The Phone Call was about the 14yearold at a minimum, right . I mean, it was clear there was an immediate followup on that topic, so an answer to the question, why did you call schiller . Answer . Because of her 14yearold . And maybe also Stormy Daniels, but thats not there and i agree with what jerrys and yet this phone call is so crucial because theres the call Michael Cohen said trump approved payment, right. Is essential. Its essential call that doesnt take a lot of time to do it. Maybe as i said, if theres a lot of backandforth, but none of this was known until today. Youre watching the jury when all this was laid out. Did this look like an aha moment to any of them . Absolutely. That duree was focused back and forth on the questions that blanche was asking and that cohen was answering and cohen hesitated. He didnt answer definitively. He could have said Something Like well, yes, it was about this 14 yearold, but it was definitely about the call with Stormy Daniels, the fact fact that hes authorizing this. He didnt say that he hesitated the other issue is it made it seem like the prosecution set this up. So the only reason that cohen knew about this was because the prosecution told you the date, what cohen should have done is said well, yes, when they prepped me, they told me the dates. I knew the content just didnt know the exact date and he said that, but he wasnt definitive about it. And thats something everyone can understand. You remember, i extend exact de a phone call or not are low when you look at what happened today, and of course, you worked with todd blanche, so you know him obviously he was a lot of people were not impressed with his performance. The other day today though it was a very different sort of at least on this crucial moment, right . He had a plan, he knew what he was doing what what what did you make of his Performance Today . Well, i think what he did today was very significant because earlier today and tuesday, a lot of what he did was show that cohen had lied in the past and jurors dont really care about that. I know that seems startling, right . Because it does go to whether you should believe the person, but jurors, just like regular people, like the idea that they can size up if someones looking at them in the eye, like Michael Cohen was, they can size them up and you as a defense lawyer, can show that a witness lied not a long time ago, but to this jury, right . The jury fields portrayed and that witness often goes out the window. So i dont know if thats what happened. I dont know if theres a comeback to this, but i think it appeared today he was very effective and thats what he was trying to do, was to show the jury that you never mentioned the 14yearold or the tax or the purpose of the call or that you talked to . He never mentioned any of this until today. Does that set up that moment where the jury feels betrayed . I really do believe so. And then you think about this and you have to piggyback this to the ultimate issue, which is this whole Campaign Issue and Campaign Finance violation. What do they have . They have that is the defense write this letter from the relating to finance Campaign Violations that says from cohen that it was paid from my personal funds. It had nothing to do with trump. It had nothing to do with the campaign. So like this witness is lot what else