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Monday and theyre saying that they may be able to rest their case by next weeks events, Brin Jin Grass is outside the courthouse following all of it for us and brynn today todays proceedings late. A lot of the important groundwork for the big witness monday, Michael Cohen, what can we expect on monday yes. Equaliser. This is the guy that said he would take a bullet for his boss and he might be who helps the prosecution sink donald trump. So well have to see, of course, hes the person who can bring jurors into that room, into the hello. Office in february 2017, when prosecutors say they hatched this plan to make these Reimbursement Payments ahead of the 2016 election. They alleged that he conspired with other trump org members to figure out how these reimbursements will work. Hes expected to be on the stand for a couple of days now, when the defense gets their turn to ask the questions, of course, theyre going to attack his credibility. Like we have seen them do with other witnesses in this case about Michael Cohen and theyre basically going to continue to basically try to pull out the lies that they say. He is sort of spreading. So well see how that goes. It doesnt help though jake, that listen, Michael Cohen earlier this week when on tiktok and posted a video and whilele in that video, hes wearing a tshirt that has an image of donald trump behind bars in an Orange Jumpsuit today at the end of court the process or rather the defense asked the judge to put a gag order on Michael Cohen based off that video that was denied, but there was a strong warning against Michael Cohen or against really for the prosecution didnt make this warning. And basically the judge says, listen, this comes from the bench. You need him to stop talking about donald trump in this trial and brynn today, judge marsha can also suggested that the former organization cfo, the trump organization, cfo Allen Weisselberg that he could be brought in to testify. I think hes in prison right now. How would that work yeah. Look, Allen Weisselbergs name has come up a bunch in this trial from other witnesses. Prosecutors allege shes a part of this conspiracy, right. So they need its a close the loop on why jurors are not hearing test him, testify, and they essentially want to bring forward an argument and this is something that they made without the jurors in the room to the judge basically, a Severance Agreement that weisselberg has with the trump organization. Now, the defendant said what that is highly prejudicial should not be allowed, but before the just said, hell make because decision, he says, listen to the prosecution even asked about one weisselberg wants to. Thats to buy. And the prosecution said no. So essentially, the judge said, well, lets bring them in without the jurors here. Lets see if he wants to testify or withheld bleed. The fifth. And based on that, then ill make a decision on whether or not that agreement can be put forth. Two jurors. So well see where that lands. But that was certainly asked again, quick note, jake, we are expecting according the prosecution to possibly have them wrap up their case by the end of next week all right. But then of course, the defense gets their turn. Beringia and gras in new york. Thank you so much joining us now, attorney michael vanderveers from the great city of philadelphia. He was one of trumps lawyers in the second in impeachment trial. I think so much for being here. So let me ask you how do you think the prosecution can convince the jury that Michael Cohen is a credible witness . I understand all the ways of defense can can make them into a non credible one. Its going to be really hard, jake, but what theyve done from the beginning of the trial is just that they had a couple options here. They could have started with cohen and then put all the underpinnings around him. But what they did, i think as you saw, incredible is they built a frame around him all the points to him, and then theyre finishing up with them so that when is credibility is attacked, the jury 40 has in their mind the other factors that theyve heard that cooperate the prosecutions theory of the case, what is what is your reaction to judge merchan today telling prosecutors his order for his order for cohen to stay quiet and stop things like wearing a shirt with donald trump in prison in a jumpsuit that this comes from the bench and could colin face repercussions a little a little little to little a little too late. I mean, that should have been done before the trial started, and its interesting and i think strategic that defense in asked for that. They never asked shut shut cohen up, shut the other witnesses up. They just didnt want to be shut up themselves. They could have asked that as well. And the judge could have issued that order, right in the beginning of the trial, looking at charles started juries and paneled, were not going to have anybody on their social media attacking him and hes not going to be attacking them. Lets let this case come in pure and simple, but cohens been going nuts in to a certain extent. I think thats going to affect his credibility as well. So you think that the prosecution im sorry . Do you think that the defense did not do that purposefully because it certainly gives them ample evidence of like, look, this is how much you hate donald trump i think i think thats probably a consider a thought process. They had their the defense team are good lawyers. Theyre very thorough. Their strategic and thinking. Theyve been planning this thing for darn near a year. And i think that obviously if they wanted to shut cohen up, they would have brought the motion and they didnt that wasnt an oversight. I think that was strategic. Let me bring a piece from a piece of testimony today because earlier today, the jury heard more about how trump would sign things without reviewing them first, we just got the official transcript. Heres how trump attorney Susan Nicholas pressed former White House Assistant Madeleine Westerhout on this issue. Full screen here we go. Necklace and there were times with all of these, would you say it was hundreds of documents that he was signing westerhout . Not every day, but sometimes. Uhhuh. Necklace. And this was inbetween other things that he was doing, right . Westerhout . Oh, yes. Uhhuh. Necklace. And so would you see him signing things without reviewing them yes. Said westerhout necklace. And would you see him signing checks without reviewing them . Westerhout . Yes. Necklace. And you would see him signing checks while he was on the phone . Oh, right. Westerhout . Yes necklace. Would you see them sometimes signing checks when he was meeting with People Westerhout . Yes how strong was that . Do you think for the defense, i lived that was very strong. You know, you have to also put it in perspective of the corporation that there are any no, theyre up at the top at trump tower and those offices are were very busy. Well, this was was he was in the white house though. Oh, when he is not white house, i havent been in the white house with them, but its very typical of him. Hes a busy guy, he thinks of a lot of stuff all the time. Hell do ten things at once in as my indigo from one place to another. And frankly, i dont know anybody but he wasnt really successful. Who is an operating in the same way ill be starting things and talking on the phone and doing everything else. And most everybody else i know busy are prone to do that kind of thing. You trust the people that are putting the things in front of you to be signed. So there was a piece of yesterdays testimony thats relevant to what we did as discussed. The prosecution ask Stormy Daniels a better 2018 joint filing by donald trump and Michael Cohen when they were together admitting that mr. Trump reimburse Michael Cohen for 130,000 of hush money and pursuant to the dna or the answer or the nda, the nondisclosure agreement. Is that a big the ldl . To think i mean, him acknowledging donald trump in a different chord, acknowledging yeah, i reimbursed Michael Cohen for that. Absolutely. I mean, that could even be considered a smoking gun because the defense is contrary to that. Now and to go and shift like that both times in a court of law, i think its very very going to be very difficult. Get over very quickly. Stormy daniels, donald trump, donald trump wanted going to be let out as gad or gag order so he could respond to Stormy Daniels testimony judge merchan said no, Stormy Daniels tweeted, quote, real men respond to testimony by being sworn in and taking the stand in court. Oh, wait. Never mind. Your fellow philadelphia attorney, bill brennan said that that tweet could be grounds for a mistrial well you know, i dont want to contradict a great legal minded bill brennan, but thats outside of court. The jury is not supposed to be looking at social media or anything of that nature. And shes not alone lawyers in the case. You know, shes really just a witness in the case. If a lawyer were to bring up this Fifth Amendment right to remain silent that would be a real problem. An absolutely a mistrial at that time. All right. Michael van der been good to see you. Thank you so much pleasure. You fill every single day. Donald trump comes out to the cameras in that Courthouse Hallway and rants about this case. But whats he saying behind the scenes, i guess coming up as new insight into that. But first some Breaking News, the high stakes report anticipated from the Biden Administration is now out of gauging whether or not in their view, israel and its Defense Forces violated International Law in its war with hamas. Will, were back in a breaking moment without Breaking News . Raising you know, better frozen. Are you getting me anything for mothers day . Go to one 800 flowers. Com gorgeous. I feel like royalty what 800 flowers. Com . Happy. Mothers day today. And americas Beverage Companies are bottles might still look the same, but they can be remade in a whole new way. Thanks to you. Were getting bottles back and weve developed a way to make new ones from 100 recycled plastic new bottles made using no new plastic. Youll be seeing more of these bottles in more places. 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Kylie, what does the report find . Well, less than this report finds that it would be reasonable to assess in the words of this court that israel has violated International Humanitarian law since october 7, but it doesnt definitively make the determination that they have actually violated law, saying that those assessments, those individual assessments of those specific is really strikes are still ongoing. And this report, again thats into the complexity of making these assessments take saying that particularly because of how hamas hides and Population Centers hide in infrastructure that is used by civilians. Its really challenging to make an assessment here as to whether or not israel undertook all of the necessary actions shins to prevent it from breaking International Humanitarian law as it continues to go after hamas in this war. The other thing that i want to note, the report states is that israel does have the experience. They do have the capability to drive down the death of civilians, but this report says that there are standard oil questions as to if israel is using those capabilities effectively. Thats something that the state department will continue to look at. The upper part of this is that the us and israel have been going back and forth as the state department has been working on this report, a Senior State Department official described this as a useful tool to push israel to try and make changes to drive down those civilian death tolls that we have seen throughout the course of this war to try and make changes to the way that it delivers humanitarian aid into gaza. But they also said that as they are probing these incidents, these specific incidents that could be violations of International Humanitarian law. Israel has provided some information to them, but they are still gaps in terms of what israel has provided to them. So this will be an ongoing process right now, the state department not saying theres a timeline by which they expect to get that information from israel to make definitive conclusions. Jake what thank you so much. Lets bring in cnn Military Analysts with retired air force colonel Cedric Leighton kernel whats your initial reaction to this assessment . And what type of weapons do you think this report might be referencing . Jake . I think the Big Good Referencing here is to the 2000 pound bombs in particular, any type of weapon that the israelis are using that has had an impact on the civilians in gaza. And that would include not only those 2000 pound bombs, which are usually delivered by air as well as 500 pound bombs. And then artillery shells. So all of these weapons are the ones that have been used against the hamas targets. That israel is doing after. And those would be legitimate targets, but theyve also had the effect of impacting collateral. Civilian targets. And that, of course brings about the issue of Collateral Damage which is precisely what this report is talking about. So my initial assessment here is that in essence, whats going on is the us is saying that israel probably violated International Humanitarian law, but they dont have all of the evidence yet to make a definitive conclusion that thats the case the question of course is how do you think Prime Minister netanyahu was going to respond to this finding especially given the political realities that netanyahu is completely dependent on these far, far rightwing religious zealot cabinet ministers, bengvir and smoke trich to survive as Prime Minister what do you think is going to do . Just reject it he might just do that. Jake, one of the key problems that he has as you point out, is th

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