Americans and book your first cleaning today for just 19. Im Katelyn Polantz at the federal court in washington. And this is cnn beep six, donald trump hosts The Apprentice 2024 edition with potential running mates maralago, but with all the challenges of being trumps number two, including a new refusal to rule out violence. Again, if trump loses, who does trump think can deliver four . Kim vp contender north dakota governor doug burgum joins me exclusively next and campus crackdowns, more arrests as colleges tried to turn from chaos to commencement, could protests continue and effect democrats hope for November Biden campaign cochair Mitch Landrieu and former senator and University Of Florida present sen. Ben sas ahead plus star turn riveting trial testimony recalls the damning access Hollywood Tape from trumps 2016 campaign. This was locker room boom, talk. Im not proud of it as the case against trump takes shape, can he defy political expectations again hello im. Jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is auditioning out of port for the weekend. Donald trump was bad in his elements, fueling speculation over who he might choose to be his number two. Yesterday at a Donor Retreat at maralago, mr. Trump called half a dozen a Vice President ial hopefuls up on stage and openly discussed whether one of them might join him on the ticket. In his remarks to top donors, mr. Trump also continued to lie about the 2020 election. He vented about special counsel jack smith and the other lawyers, prosecutor prosecuting him. And he referred to his democratic opponent, joe biden as quote, running a gestapo administration, unquote. He also said, according to the New York Times quote when you are a democrat, you start off essentially at 40 because you have civil service, you have the unions and you have the welfare and dont underestimate welfare. They get welfare to vote unquote. Quite a turnaround from on friday when trump was a criminal defendant compelled to sit in a new york courtroom, find by a judge for violating a gag order and forced to listen as a former top aide, hope hicks described his private reaction to that infamous access Hollywood Tape released in october 2016. Joining me now with one of the Vice President ial contenders on stage at maralago this weekend, north dakota, governor doug burgum, governor bergen. Thank you so much for joining us. So you were there with donald trump last night at maralago . Fogbow, where he claimed biden was like the gestapo, referring to the nazi secret police. Are you comfortable with the Presumptive Republican president ial nominee comparing the Biden Administration to the gestapo well, jake, first great to be with you and i would say yesterday we had an opportunity to listen to the president talked for 90 minutes without a Teleprompter Covering a wide range of topics and largely very upbeat because if the election was held today, trump would be winning and relative to the reference youre discussing, i mean, there was a short comment deep into the thing that wasnt really central to what he was talking about. But i understand when and i think americans understand and majority of americans feel like the trial that hes in right now is politically motivated. And if it was anybody else, this trial wouldnt even be happening. So i understand that he feels that hes being unfairly treated and i think thats reasonable that someone whos being kept off the Campaign Trail is the presumptive nominee is got some frustration about that. So a public trial with witnesses, the jury, defense counsel, thats like the gestapo, the nazis for police well, he certainly didnt say that yesterday and he wasnt referring to this trial when he made that when he made that discovery, made that comment but i do think that people understand that. I mean, im a business guy. This is a business filing case. If it was anybody other than a president ial candidate, this would be a misdemeanor. How it got turned turned into 34 felonies when it isnt even the alleged crime, which is they havent even convinced anybody there was a crime. But if it were, it would be a federal Election Commission crime and that would be pursued by the federal federal courts, not by a county da in new york. And so i think again, americans, the outcome of this trial doesnt affect them. What affects them is joe joe bidens policies, the inflation thats taken 30 of their savings. I come like A Thief In The Night Inflations than insidious tax that takes money away from people that need it the most at the low end of the income scale. And so the trial is maybe a spectacle for cable tv, but rami average America Perkins have already baked in what they think about President Trump, President Biden, theyre looking at the policies, not at the people, and they were better off on her chosen trumps policies. According to polling a plurality of the American People think that President Trump did commit a crime when it comes to this case and if you add in those who think it was unethical, but not illegal, its a vast majority let me just ask you if donald trump becomes a convicted felon because of this case, will that affect your support for him for president well if he becomes a convicted felon in this case, thats a just a travesty of justice because as i just had, when youve got a business filing error, that is for something that was again, its not illegal to pay people for nondisclosure agreements that happens all the time. Sure. This network and others have done that. So thats not a legal. And then youve got a again to trying to do this. And the only reason this trial is happening right now, its the only one that could actually be brought forward. The other four couldnt be brought the other three of the four couldnt be brought forward before the election. So this one is largely intended to try to achieve a result before the election. And then you can be assured as americans would know, that any kind of appeal would be pushed until after the election. So thats why everybody sees this is politically motivated. And like i said filing error is not something that would affect any American People that are trying to put food on the table and gas in the car. It doesnt affect check them. And so it this is why the outcome of this trial is not going to change. A lot of peoples minds. It might actually, in some ways help President Trump because it reinforces the idea that the Biden Administration is willing to use lawfare to try to attack a political opponent. Theres no evidence that joe biden has anything to do with this case from brought forward by District Attorney bragg and you keep its grabbing theres a filing error. I guess thats one interpretation. Another interpretation is that Donald Trumps attorney, michael cohen, paid hush money for to hide from the American People before the election. The fact that mr. Trump had had a rendezvous with a porn star, and that they wanted to hide that from the American People until after the election. So far the the evidence and ive seen suggests there are at least was some political motivation to this and they hit it so as to hide that from the public. Thats a little bit more than just checking wrong box on a form. But lets move on because i want to ask you about Something Else, mr. Trump said he the New York Times reported that that last night mr. Trump said that some americans get quote, welfare to vote is that how you see the electorate . You have, i think more than 100,000. North dakota is on medicaid. Are they getting welfare to vote . No one, i dont think. Thats the intention that he meant when he when he said that, but i i do think that what we have here is the when joe biden, he cant campaign on i mean, its open border policies. 2016. That was about immigration. Now, its about National Security and Public Safety and open borders is something the majority americans are very concerned about inflation touches every single american. The wars that are breaking out Around The World. So in places where where President Trump had success, joe bidens having failure, where President Trump was strong. Joe biden has been weak. And so thats what people are actually thinking about. But then you throw on top of things like the Student Loan Debt and you start trying to give away hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer money. Its not even its like were borrowing to give it away. Its not tax and spend its borrow, borrow from the chinese and give it away when you see those, those citizens understand, those are like pre election payoffs. Those are like, hey, folks, please hes vote for us because were relieving your debt. So at what point is It Crossover Programs like student debt, to just vote buying and i think again, the people that are working hard and are paying off their debts and arent getting loan relief, are saying, hey, this is just isnt fair and america, people want things to be fair, not unfair and i think its clear that theres theres vote buying going on at a scale like never seen before. Does that offend you more than donald trump telling the room full of donors, wealthy people, millionaires, billionaires that hes going to cut their taxes is that, is that buying votes any different . Well, first of all, i just reject the whole premise of this idea of wealthy donors. I mean, the room of people that were there yesterday are all people that were job creators. These are, these are americans that were took risks that the not wealthy. Sometimes risk everything they had to start to start the business. While theyre wealthy now, because the american system of capitalism worked for them to create jobs to help them build their communities. These are among the most generous people in the country. Theyre the ones that are giving back to their two philanthropic efforts in building strong communities. They care about their kids and their grandkids because theyve been successful and because theyve worked on hard is not somehow that they should be disparaged. This is what we should be celebrating and these people represent the American Dream. And part of the way the American Dream word is when we have low taxes and low regulation and joe biden wants to ease proposing the largest tax increase in the history of america and proud of it, thats yeah, i wasnt disparaging them, but let me ask you something because its Something Else donald trump said in an interview with the milwaukee journal sentinel, and also with Time Magazine, hes refusing to commit to accepting the results of the 2024 election he told them walking journal sentinel quote, if everythings honest, ill gladly accept the results. I dont change on that if its not, you have to fight for the right of the country. Echoing language he used on january 6 when Time Magazine asked him about potential violence if he loses, he said, quote, if we dont win, you know, it depends. Now, you called the violence on january 6, reprehensible and you said it does not represent american values. Donald trump has openly discussing right now, pardoning all of the january 6 criminals. I think that you heard a song from them last night at the fundraiser in those criminals, by the way, include those who have been convicted in an American Court of violently attacking police. Hes talking about pardoning them and he seems to be leaving the door open to potential violence if he loses again based on comments youve made in the past, that that musk concern you well, i think the bigger context here. Jake is really about elections in america. I mean, you go back in my lifetime when 1960, it came down to one county. We talk about an election like its one thing in our country, but elections are still run at the state, the county, and the precinct level. And in cook county, it was very close between kennedy and nixon. Nixon conceded in 2000, theyve made movies about it and that election was contested for two months. In the courts afterwards. And it was so it came down to Broward County and some Hanging Chads in 2016, this network and many others challenge the results of the 26 claiming that there was an interference. We never challenge the results. Theres plenty more stories supporting sporting that im talking about the violin itself have decried yes. Well, you know, im im looking forward to next january when Vice President harris certifies the election for donald trump. I mean, the American People are the ones that get to decide these elections. But for both parties and for all americans, weve got to make sure that in every county, every precinct is beyond reproach that everybody can be confident in our country and north dakota, were doing that. Nobodys questioning the results of an election in any county or precinct in north dakota. It can be done, its done all over the nation except for in some cases, weve got, we couldnt have a handful of counties that this election could turn on again, and weve just got to make sure that when its done, both sides feel good about how it was counted. Do you believe joe biden won the 2020 election i i believe that joe biden won the 2020 election, but i also, based on the number of votes are in, but i think that because of covid there was a huge number of irregularities because we changed a bunch of rules in certain places and certain precincts in certain states and the number of male out ballots, not mailin. We do Absentee Ballots and north dakota, we do use make sure were verifying signatures. But when youre mailing out more ballots than there are people that are actually italy on the registers for the voting roles that creates a massive moral hazard. And then when youve got Unmonitored Drop Boxes and a bunch of single bullet votes that only vote for one candidate. I think all of us have to say is that the way we want to have elections . I dont know what it is it was a special case i mean, you agree with lets take a vote as a ballot that comes in, were its very unusual to get that many ballots where someone just votes for president and not for anybody else down ballot. Thats what im talking about Attorneys General that is a attorney general. Bill barr said that there was no significant fraud that would have changed the results so of the 2020 election, do you disagree with that or do you agree with that well, again, were talking about what are you talking about . What happened before the ballots came in or after they came out with we counted up all the ballots in this yeah. And im saying i just said it. I think that there was a special set of circumstances around covid where we had did things. Weve never done before. The millions of mail out ballots was a new thing for america. And when you mail out more ballots and they just go out to, i mean, i know people in states where they got three ballots mailed to them thats a problem and we should all be concerned about that. But im looking forward. We were talking about that, making sure that the 2024 election is secure and theres no need to keep relitigating 2020. We got to talk about the policies that are going to help people understand. Again, how do we make america safe . How do we get our economy strong again, how do we secure our borders . President trump is going to, is gonna do all those things. And this is a unique point in history because we havent, since grover cleveland, we havent had a former president running against the current president. So americans have got a better chance than ever to say, was i better . Her off under President Trump than i am under biden. And the answer for the majority of people is that they were better off under President Trump. So just quickly if you could, if President Trump asks you to services Vice President , will you say yes . Well, i think any of that right now is all speculation. I mean, as you open the show talking about the vip stakes and the group of people on stage. He couldnt get if youd add any more on there, theyve been fallen off the stage. And prior to that, he said there was 50. So i think the shortlist needs to be modified maybe theres a list of 50 if im on it who who would know, but its not why im out supporting the president right now is someone that runs a Natural Resource state. As a governor, ive had a chance to serve under President Trump has governor and under President Biden and i can tell you the difference is night and day for our citizens for our Small Businesses, because right now were under a barrage of red tape