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For fighting for what matters. This is cnn its time to, break. Down the, big stories with some smart people today, were asking us antiwar demonstrations spread across the country. Can President Biden continued to have it both way, saying he understands why protesters are upset while backing israels Gaza Offensive then sucking up the oxygen is all the attention Donald Trumps trial is getting all ready. A win for the former president. And stop the skeptic. The new posh to make all travelers wait in line at Airport Security the panelists here ready to go . So sit back, relax and lets talk about up first, the protests of our gaza have ignited a firestorm on College Campuses the growing demonstrations, but coming a political issue drawn condemnation from Speaker Mike Johnson and a muted response from President Biden all over the us. Propalestinian protests on College Campuses leading to hundreds of arrests at the university of texas, State Troopers use wyatt here to break up demonstration well, at columbia, the epa cetera, the protests, things took a polar good luck old term was some democrats touring the Campus Protests here at columbia or a new luck on Top Republicans like house Speaker Mike Johnson also showing up. We just cant allow this kind of hatred anatomy, antisemitism to flourish and calling for the schools president to step down. I am here today joining my colleagues and calling on president. Sure. Fee to resign. If she cannot immediately bring order to this chaos. But President Biden has no plans to visit columbia as heine between defending the protesters and denouncing. Now, i condemn somebody protests. Thats why ive set up a program to deal that. I also condemn bonus dont understand whats going on with the palestinians here with me today, author and podcast host, kara swisher, editor in chief of the dispatch and columnist at the la tom jonah goldberg, lulu garcianavarro, new york times, journalist and host of the interview, a new podcast from the times now leanna johnson, editor of the Washington Free beacon. Welcome back everyone jonah, as we saw on that piece republicans seem to think they can score points on all the protests going on on campuses across the country. How did these protests play politically i think republicans are smart to do it im take aside the issues about israel and gaza and all that. Just the feeling of chaos and things spiraling Out Of Control is bad for joe biden, the sense that things are not returning to normal was bad for joe biden and bad for democrats. And plus these protests we want to call them pro palestine or antiisrael or pro hamas. They divide a big chunk of bidens coalition and unite basically the republican coalition, which is bigger than the trump coalition. So i think its almost all political upside for loop. Im going to pick up on that. And how big a problem isnt for democrats specifically the two points that johnson made. One, just the sense and chaos and disorder which is spreading frehse was a columbia thing. Now its all over the country and also it sharpens, deepens a divide within the Democratic Party between people who are supportive of israel and people who are upset about the humanitarian situation in gaza. I think thats right. I mean, i think it is a real big very big problem for democrats. There finding at the moment that they dont really know how to grapple with these protests. On the one hand, they want to be supportive of their base many of whom, especially young voters and voters of color who think that what is happening in gaza is terrible. And they wanted to show support for the palestinians. And on the other hand, of course, weve seen antisemitism and antisemitic comments in many of the protesters in many campuses. And of course, they want to condemn that, but theyre caught in the middle. I mean, they really are struggling to figure out a coherent message. But youre seeing republicans like john sen. Come out and try and say, they should bring the National Garden to quell these protests. This is a man who of course supported january 6 and the insurrectionist. So there is a little bit of political hay being made on the right that perhaps is going to benefit them as we showed in the setup piece, biden is trying to straddle. This is really trying to have it both ways on the one hand, hes condemning antisemitism, but on the other hand, hes expressing sympathy for the palestinians and their situation in gaza. And donald trump seasonopening here, take a look this is tremendous hayden. We have a man that get dark about it because he doesnt understand that he doesnt understand whats going on with our country. Hello yana ten biden, keep trying to play it both ways here. He can do it, of course, but i think its a missed opportunity for president ial leadership. I think its good politics to come out against protesters who are telling jews to go back to poland and im, saying zionists dont deserve to live. Those are direct quotes from leaders of the columbia protests. Its good politics for biden to stand against that. The problem for him, of course, is that the left wing of his party representative, ilhan omar, are showing up at the protest to shore them up. So of course, he would alienate the left flank of his party. But i do think its a missed opportunity for him. To fade into the background of this. Well some people are saying that and i think you have to be the question is, do you are you for order and against chaos or for protests and the right to free speech. And whats interesting is how quickly everyone and shifting all the freespeech warriors are suddenly like order. Order. We must have order. And so there are your heinous things that are said, but there is a line where you have to support also young people, especially when they do things that they do badly, not to support them, is sort of antiamerican and speech is fine, but usc has canceled this graduation. Columbia university has canceled classes and put them online. Weve gone well beyond free speech and into shuttering the operations of universities. And i do think its a missed opportunity for biden to say there are limits. Weve gone beyond speech and into harassment and disruption here not stand for that. Yeah. I think weve also those seen a reaction from some of the police and others that have been deployed on campuses that have been access, access today or indiana because then then thats a whole different story as these young people, you are changing the political mentality of young people right now. If you push down too hard on an especially at this age and not being able to express yourselves. I think you have a much bigger problem later, but just to get back to the politics of the politics. But the problem is it seems to me that biden is really quite his coalition on the one hand, theres an awful lot of the Democratic Party that is foursquare behind israel. You dont want to alienate them. On the other hand, there are a lot of people including some jews, who are for israel, who are horrified by whats going on as gaza. And so this is how do you walk that tight rope . This is also a gift to netanyahu. I mean, these protests, i mean you can look at this and whatever the protesters think that theyre doing what you have seen, is that you have seen israelis. I spoke to the israeli Opposition Leader for my new podcast, the interview. And he was absolutely horrified by these protests. He said that they didnt know what they were talking about. They didnt clearly under stan, the history of the conflict. And so you are seeing here it activating not only here in the united states, but also how its, how its being played in. I want to bring one other aspect of this up. There is growing talk linking the protests that are happening now, for instance, on the campus at Columbia University, the antiwar protests us to antiwar protests like those at Columbia University back in 1968, which did not turn out well for the democrats. Jonah, how legitimate do you think is the comparison of whats going on now on campuses to what was going on during the vietnam war on the substance, i think its a pretty weak comparison. The anti draft movement, the Antiwar Movement was a much bigger thing, much more galvanizing force. But at the level of atmospherics and sort of psychology, i think theres a lot of similarity, a lot of college kids, i get the whole free speech argument. A lot of kids basically have selma and v, they theyre taught to be protest is sort of part of who it is to go to college. And it is so some of this is sort of cost play into my mind and just is what its part to be a young person to push against ideas, ready for some young people just want to go to their graduation of a class but this is more like dry apartheid movement, as i recall when i was there more on that level, because theres not americans in it was married in vietnam has a very different conflict. I was going to say the personal stakes are completely different than 3 Million People in 1968, american soldiers in vietnam and 200,000 thats right. Mostly College Students have been drafted at that point, so i will the personal stakes very different while President Biden is speaking up about the protest, hes keeping pretty quiet about Donald Trumps hush money trial. But is that the right move . Then unconventional wisdom . The new effort by some republicans, two possibly replace Kamala Harris on the democratic ticket and later rolling the dice. But growing moneymaking trend but some Career Renting consequences i mean, you know, i was there in some of those protests and 68 and youve thought a very personal lives and the nations capital, one of the most unforgettable nights in dc, this rotor will read back here again, President Biden, and comedian Collin Joseph headline the white house correspondents dinner, live tonight at seven eastern on cnn gotta get rid of this because it stinks having a triad down here refresh. It helps remove voters three times better than detergent alone. It worst guys, yeah downey rinse and refresh, choosing a treatment for your chronic migraine 15 or more headache days a month, each lasting four hours or more can be overwhelming. 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And after a week of Wall Coverage of his criminal hush money, trial. Follow embarrassing details about his personal life. Crop must be hoping those words still hold true. So we have another day court and everything is very cold but on the stand scorching details from former National Enquirer boss, david pecker. He testified about a scheme to get trump elected in 2016. Pecker saying he told trump i would be your eyes and ears . Her testified he told trump about two women playboy model, Karen Mcdougal and porn star stormy daniels, who had stories about alleged affairs with trump. Pecker, paid mcdougal 150,000, then never published her story. Part of a socalled catch and kill schemes. Trumps lawyer asking pecker you had similar relationships with other people. Pecker answering . I did. But the public seems unbothered by the case so far in a new cnn poll, 45 of voters say its irrelevant to trumps fitness for the presidency up from 39 last summer. And while some front credits are speaking up how about the trial as far as i know, you dont pay someone 130,000 not to have sex with you. President biden is choosing to stay silent. President biden or trump trial littleo, i know its only week one of a trial thats going to go on for five or six or whatever weeks. Hows it going for trump so far . Sorry, im smiling that romney quote was just really, really funny hows it going for him . Im not a legal analyst, so i dont know it on the merits, but i can tell you that i had been riveted even though we cant see it. It is salacious. First of all, the window into how this all work, this catch and kill, and how this man whose name is david pecker, like it feels like im already in some weird alternate universe with the name alone is so amazing and i think what i keep coming back to is trump. Every day he shuffles out of the courtroom and he rails against what is happening happening. And theres this idea and hes constantly talking about his victim hood and yet its about he basically was this wealthy man who had this, who was plugged into one of the most read tabloids in the city. And they were trying to find if there were people trying to if there was Word On The Street that it was slipping with people. I mean, it doesnt seem like because much of a victim to me. So i think its going to hurt him. Jonah, i got to say i was surprised at how much the prosecution got out of its first witness, david pecker, and especially the fact that he said, look, when when he was worried about these women, it was all about the campaign. It wasnt about trying to protect his family. Melannie wonka me about i mean, that thats an important point because thats what the contention is that paying the soft was a campaign issue. It wasnt a personal issue. Yeah. Just on the strictly legal part of it its not illegal to pay off somebody to keep quiet during a credit is illegal to call it a business expense, right . Right. So its a misdemeanor to call it a business to falsely call it a business expense, and its a misdemeanor under federal election law, and you what brians going 22 and misdemeanors together to get 34 felony is i dont think that math works legally, regardless. I dont think this is particularly great for trump it it does take time out of campaigning. Its gotta be a wet blanket on fundraising no, actually, its rising a lot of money yeah. I mean, about like bigger donors and all that kinda stuff. But the number of the watch is that 45 , 45 is basically trumps share of the electorate. If it gets higher than than that, then this is starting to work for him. But right now, 45 i would expect 45 of the electorate to say they dont care about this because 45 of the electorate says theyre going to vote for him no matter what. Coverage of the trial is drowning out. All other campaign news. I defy you to tell me what joe biden are Kamala Harris did this wake or anybody in congress. And when trump goes in that shot, when it goes in or out of the courtroom, all the Cable News Channels carry it lives. So elliana is is this a win . All the attention . Is it a win for trump . That was striking to me, trump has this free airtime to deliver his message. But i think its really hard to argue that its a win for trump should biden be talking about it more in, out there, more. I think bidens exacting costs that dont require him to talk about it. Trump is tied up in a courtroom every day. Hes not on the campaign trail, able able to prosecute his message, his schedule, and availability for fundraisers is not what it should be. So i think let me bring cara him because the fact that matter is he was talking about the trial and how cold it was. But now he realizes i got a free three or four minutes on every channel and hes talking about other things. He talked about the Campus Protests di mean this week of just talking about the debates so it mean hes getting his message is yes, but its not a great place to get your message out there doing this in front of a courtroom or you he also continues to complain about the weather or whatever was inside the courtroom and other things that are going on in the courtroom. This sleeping is not good. This is not good for him. This is just not right. Its like its the same shot every day going in and out and it looks this is whats going to happen in the coverage unless something happens, this is going to go down because an early riser, right . I mean, usually went down to the oval office by 11 and now hes gotta get there every day. This is an older guy. Its ake a physical, its getting sleep rather crack at 9 30 i want to talk about getting rest and thats important for him. Hes sleeping actually during the trial. But then low, low, theres this issue who about biden, who is talking about everything except the trial . Take a look. Hes taking some shots at trump here they are maybe its coming from that bible. Hes trying to sell almost wanted to buy one, just see what the hells in it. Remember what its trying to deal with companies who just inject a little bleach in your event hey, miss it all went to his hair he clearly biden doesnt want to play into the trump narrative that biden is somehow behind these prosecutions. But is it the right move to just stay quiet and keep quiet about the trial while its going on. I think it is. I just dont i dont think he has anything to gain by getting involved in that at all. If someone is drowning and there your opponent why go out there and go around a life raft around them . I mean, its sort of like just let him do his own thing and i could dig the diggs are good. The little digs a little things, but its always you to be part of that. Yeah. And i also i dont think biden at all should want to play into the idea that he is behind the prosecutions thats what trump is arguing. And and i think him prosecuting the case is this dangerous for him, while some republicans liked to use Kamala Harris as a Campaign Talking Point against President Biden others within glb, maybe pushing to get her off the ticket, plus a big Award Reversal that few people saw comma the whole myth has to be reimagined feed if you didnt know whether you were next they were both he tied up. Yeah. Yeah. I was called in makes saw what turned out to be the biggest heist in history it went from gold medal winning icon to a pariah what really happened with jesse l. Martin tomorrow at nine on cnn lumify. Its kind of amazing. Wow, lumify eye drops dramatically reduce redness in one minute and look at the difference. 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I think he was arguably bidens worst political decision of his presidency to pick her in the first place. And one other special reasons that shes a drag is bidens age concerns people. They dont they worried that he cant fill a term. They worried that hes not up to the job. And so the Vice President matters more than they normally do. I generally think going into the future that democrats really should not nominate or front people who come from decidedly all blue states unless theyre like once in a generation, talents like barack obama because Kamala Harris does not know how to talk to the center or to the right. She only really knows how to speak the language of the base of the party. And thats 34, 11. Let me pick up on that because its not just focus groups that are down on harris right now in a recent Poll National poll, 40 approved of the Vice President s job performance, while 55 disapproved and karatay, jonahs point, given the fact that people are so worried, voters on ols political stripes are so worried about bidens age and whether hes going to last for four more years is it a problem when there theyre not very, very satisfied, are reassured by the person who would succeed. It doesnt really matter. Shes not going to be replaced and they dont like or theres lots of reasons i dont like her and i dont think the Vice President matters as much as people think. I dont think they think about it unless with an ad that might i get that, but right now, i dont think thats the first thing that we think about his her necessarily. I just dont i think theyve not liked her is shes had not a successful Vice President ceo, although i dont know what that means at all, because i dont think people thought of mike pence very much or dan quayle or anybody else. And so it doesnt matter because shes not going anywhere and hes not going to replace or think about that. Think about the earthquake that would cause. And so i think lets write though, in the sense that he really does struggle with her Communication Skills she really, really interesting you say that because the Vice President s to have lulu is saying well, you know, she got off to a rough start, had whether it was just one year or two years or whatever, but she has finally found her voice, especially on reproductive rights. Heres a case in america, freedom is not to be given it is not to be bestowed. It is ours by wright and that includes the freedom to make decisions about ones own body and not have the government telling people what to do to lulu is Kamala Harris finding her voice as the biden camp says, i mean i hate that term, finding her voice. I mean, shes always had it, but this is an issue that i think is one that is good for her and good for biden. Biden on this issue . Isnt particularly strong. He has his faith, hes talked about it. He feels uncomfortable talking about reproductive rights and abortion in particular, this is perfect for her to go out. This is a really important issue for the democrats and she is a good messenger you know, eliana i find it kinda ironic that the Biden Campaign talks about her finding our voice and they have said this repeatedly over these four years because in these focus groups that were talking about, one of the things that people objected to was her voice. They said they found her voice, especially her laugh. A nor oh, dear. Now, its, it is amusing. And i put in google Kamala Harris fine too. Boys, its not just the biden its not just the harris team thats saying this. When you google that, you get several articles by reporters, it is the media thats saying this. And about once every six months, the media writes a story, Kamala Harris finds her voice, and usually its on the abortion message. If she had a strong Assistant Voice and was really finding a lot of success as Vice President. We wouldnt read an article every day because whenever its about wyman and their voices, no one ever writes about womens smiling are being, you know, i kinda been im sorry, but what about robert f. Kennedy jr. And his voice . Not that much. Come on i can really annoying voice by the way. But thats besides the point precisely the point so if you got a problem with communicating, she sounds like a prosecutor. I would say thats probably that she sounds like what she was for years. I think the issue is shes also a woman. Shes also one of color and thats im not blaming it on that necessarily, but he she has got a lot of inbuilt thing. Are you suggesting that women dont face a doublestandard and politics, im just saying that i think the voice question with her is that she does have a voice that people find annoying, just like they do with robert f. Kennedy. I think there are limits to how this Double Standard well, you know, its not limited to women. I think ted cruz struggled with the same once youre going way down the line and on Hand Hi Globalize annoying. Give it is not likable thats a neither sheath all right. Jonah yes, hes not down ten. I mean, i take keras point hes not going anywhere. If she just disappeared, would biden the better off with another running mate . Oh, i think it depends on the running mate, but yeah, i think so. I mean, look, i think this whole thing gets the causality backwards a bortion is an issue thats good for biden and harris and it has coattails for them. 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How do you feel about the Heisman Trust as its called, applying the rules retroactively and saying even though it wasnt allowed, then you got your husband back . Yeah. I think its a judgment call, but ultimately, i think its yea i think the circumstances specific to him are such that its on the bubble and why not okay yay. Or why not next it may be harder to jump the Security Line at airports or proposed California Law looks to possibly banned Services Like clear, which allows people who pay 189 a year to skip weight and girls straight to security ahead of other passengers, including those with tsa precheck. If fast clear would have to provide its own dedicated Security Lane or stop operating in california, lulu, as our Social Justice advocate, are you yea or i am now . Youre worn out . Bureau chief, Social Justice, Social Airport Equity ever called me that is a journalist. Okay. So what i would say about this is what i find interesting, is i am a clear user. I love swatting up to clear waving at the tsa people and saying a by. And in america, ive never heard of anyone objecting to the fact of paying to get Better Service so thats what i would say about that. I personally like it. But i also do take the point that this is a public resource, right . Which is like an airport and should a private company be able well to use this public resource to get their customers that are Social Justice advocate is like by biden all the lines, the regular because i wasnt really should clear Something Like that where you can pay your way to skip the Security Lines. Yeah, youre night im 100 yea. There was a great line in the article about this, i said, had somebody objecting saying this is pay for play to get through Airport Security lines im totally for pay for play to get through Airport Security sidelight, a musthave mash up, known. Oh boy, as the cookie. Yeah. 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And Sports League subs sine Marketing Deals with betting platforms like draft kings and fanduel while its led to big profits for the legs, its also lead to scandals since players arent allowed to gamble on their own sports. This week, the nba permanently banned Jontay Porter of the Toronto Raptors after an investigation found he bet on Basketball Games and last year 11 pro athletes were punished for gamblingrelated infractions. So jonah is pro sports rolling the dice by getting involved so closely with gambling. I think this is the most foreseeable disaster of a Major Institution is going to lead to all sorts of problems. Its going to lead to think of violence in the stands. Its going to have all sorts of Corrupting Influences on sports i think its a terrible idea. Im not for banning all gambling, but making it instantaneous and basically the tiktok of wagering is a bad idea. Im completely opposite. This is whats happening is going on underground. Im still recovering from that heinous baked good im trying to suck it out from the twin. My day. This is whats been happening and its better that we see it out in the open. Its a little like weed. Its like Everything Else people are using it. I shouldnt be advertising for it. I mean, gambling, gambling people suffer from an addiction should be like alcohol and tobacco, but thats because then it gets regulated and we figured out ways to have it rest of the theres going to be gambling and you could end the Supreme Court incidentally said, its legal in any state, right. But when the nfl or the nba actually has a betting partner, a fantasy partner, every mix the messages on the one hand, were going to make much money as we cannot again, humbling, but you as a player, you cant bet on again oh, play shouldnt be able to. That is actually the correct answer on that when they shouldnt be its not know. We all agree they shouldnt that on a game, but it should, but is it a mixed message . Are looking over here because theyre looking over here and seeing all this money being made illegally or under the table or in las vegas . Hey, guess and then they want a piece of it. These people have to find other Revenue Streams as others shift around them i dont know and i know youre not are our Social Justice advocate, not ours going on today . I am not anything but it gets even dicier because there was a thing airports then called plot batch, where not only do you bet on which team is going to win, you could even have a bet on is this quarterback going to be able to complete next number of passes over or under. Now, its not whether the team is going to win an individual player. Good actually get involved and make an win or lose a bad. I mean, doesnt get kind of dicey. I think it gets dicey. 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So jonah hit me with your best shot so fbi director Christopher Wray has repeatedly and with increasing urgency warned that we could have majors Terrorist Mass Casualty events that the Threat Matrix is very high. Hes also made these very urgent warnings about chinese penetration. And i think its largely falling on deaf ears. Part is the trump trial stuff is so soaking up all the attention. And i dont think that our politics are ready to be able to deal with a Terrorist Attack nor do i think our institutions, our qarrah year focused on a ruling by the Federal Trade Commission this way, and its, its the ban on noncompete agreements which i think is a huge deal and aims at one of the most antik competitive tools and business this is the ability for companies to enforce these noncompete agreements. And it goes down to chefs and hairdressers and things like that. It makes sense that the Senior Executive level, but otherwise its a transfer of money from labor to shareholders and people. For innovation, people should be able to compete and get jobs after they leave job its ridiculous. Elliana, that shot best shot. I am watching the firstquarter economic numbers that were out gdp growth was lower than expected at one and Core Inflation was up which makes me think that not only will joe biden not have the flourishing economy that he wants ahead of the november election, but also the fed is probably not going to get the soft economic landing. It has been hoping for the good news, keeps rolling him for the Biden Administration before november lulu, you climb, you havent i told you so for your best shot, i do. I am right. And qarrah and chris are wrong is what i titled my email i was very interested to see that reportedly apple is cutting production of the vision pro. If you remember how reportedly with those lovely glasses and everyone was talking about was new thing. And i was saying, how utterly user fronted, not how its not userfriendly it all, who wants to sit around the dinner table with vision pro on your head . And i was right. And you will rock. Well, its interesting because i kind of anticipated it does from you. I would have thought better, but this is what i anticipated and its actually a case of wildly revisionist history. Go to the video type i find it really exciting in terms of entertainment. I really like the way theyve done it. I do think its the firstgeneration of where this is going. I tried at those week he and you its pretty cool, but i thought the headset its a somebody is wearing here. It got uncomfortable, not something youd want to wear every day now, i wanted to play that tape for two reasons. First of all, to show that i actually also had doubts about the vision pro, but mostly because i could show kara you cant get enough of that directionally, correct . Sorry, im going to stick with it this week. I have my own best shot and its a two parter. First, congrats to qarrah, who was honored with the 2024 webby Lifetime Achievement award, honoring excellence on the internet congratulations. Thank you. Its my greatest achievement and i want to congratulate our team for winning a webby for this clip, which went viral from my interview with john but teased on our max show, whos talking, where he demonstrates how music can cross genres well, you know, two blues which just goes to show if youre with giambattista, youre on the right track. It was a great conversation. You can catch my entire talk with john on max gang. Thank you all for being here. Thank you