Ac30, 60 begins right now tonight are three 60. Whats ahead for the former president when his criminal trial picked back up tomorrow, and the Supreme Court hears arguments in his immunity claim, also tonight, live reports from University Campuses at the end of a day that saw propalestinian demonstrations spread and grow. Plus arizona, were say lawmakers are trying again to undo there recently revivim nir total abortion ban dating back to the civil war. Good evening. Tomorrow morning. The former president is back in court here in new york for the first full de, a Prosecution Testimony in the hush money criminal trial. On time. Trump friend and former tabloid publisher, david pecker will be back on the stand, expected to continue laying out the socalled catch and kill scheme at the center of this case meantime, the judge, juan merchan could rule on the prosecutions motion to hold trump in contempt for his attacks on witnesses, notably Michael Cohen, his former lawyer and fixer, who made the payments to Stormy Daniels, which has boss allegedly hd through misleading Business Records the defendants spent some of his day today lashing out at the gag order. Hes accused of violating, calling it unconstitutional and complaining that quote, the conflicted judges, friends and Party Members can say whatever they want about me. But im not allowed to respond on top of the trial tomorrow. The Supreme Court also hears Oral Arguments on his claim of president ial immunity. In the federal january 6 case. Here to help break it all down, former house january 6 Committee Senior investigative counsel to me, dia, agangawilliams, cnns kara scannell, bestselling author and former federal prosecutor, Geoffrey Thuban and cnn legal analyst, karen friedman, agnifilo so caroline, start with you. What do we expect more on the court . So david pecker will be back on the stand on tuesday. He introduced the jury to the catch and kill scheme, brought them into a meeting at trump tower in 2015. Now he began by introducing them to Karen Mcdougal. But tomorrow theyre really going to get into the heart of that deal. And the role of ami, the role of Michael Cohen, the phone calls around this and how that came to be, and then move into the store let me daniel deal, which is at the center of this case, and bring the campaign into this even more so, hes expected to be on the stand, i think for quite awhile, maybe the whole day when the defense gets their crossexamination going, but he will be for the prosecutions witness to try to continue to establish these this catch and kill conspiracy. And then also the motive for which was to help Donald Trumps campaign. Its every day. What do you see . David pecker is role as this for the prosecution. I think for so long weve talked about Michael Cohen as the narrator, and i think whats so powerful here is that david pecker is really serving as that narrator, but he has the benefit of not having the hostility and credibility issues that are associated. Michael cohen. But hes really serving the role of taking us from 2015. Hes drawing the campaign in. Hes talking about everything is little as trump signing checks and Pay Attention to invoices. So theres so many different data points that hes bought us into, but they cant attack him the same way. So ill be looking for when hes crossexamined and how to trumps lawyers handle that . Are they going . In calling him biased, aggrieved, whatnot, because what weve heard so far in the courtroom, he talks about trump, but even some level of reverence. And that is not really consistent with saying that youre trying to bring the former president down. So its gonna be a tough thing to balance there, but trumps lawyers, i have an idea about how theyre going to crossexamine him. I think theyre going to say, did you think you were committing crimes . Did you think you were part of a conspiracy or we just running a magazine . Clearly, he did it or did i mean, did he do you think he did . I dont think he does. He cooperated with you on an article in the new yorker in 2017, he told me all about his payments to Karen Mcdougal. He did not talk about Stormy Daniels that was not public at that point . But and he has not been prosecuted. So thats another thing that the defense is going to point out is that if you were a coconspirator, how come youre walking free and how come donald trump is defendant here now there may be answers to all these things, but i think the idea that the prosecution in his criminalizing behavior that is simply not a crime is going to be a big theme took care and dont prosecutors make deals with disreputable people who have committed crimes who might be charged. Otherwise, if they didnt have information to turn on somebody else on a bigger fish. Well, as we always say, as prosecutors, we wish that crimes were committed in front of a bus full of nuns, right. But when youre dealing with people who commit crimes, youre surrounded by the people who they commit crimes with. And so you take your eyewitnesses as they come and thats what the prosecution will say, which is donald trump picked Michael Cohen, donald trump picked david pecker. Those were the people in his inner circle cool that he chose to do these things with. So youre left with with who youre left butt isnt the issue. I mean, Michael Cohen. Okay. Bad guy for the everybody can agree. He committed crimes with packer. Isnt the argument . Well, hes not a bad guy. Hes just a businessman who was involved with donald trump. Hes not the classic cooperator because the classic cooperator is someone whos already admitted to criminal conduct and pecker has an admitted to l, but he has been granted immunity by the feds Michael Cohen was prosecuted federally for this. I mean, its not like there wasnt some Criminal Acknowledgment federally they and because of the supremacy clause, unfortunately that applies to the state, they cant then prosecute pecker for it, but i think it was both for david pecker. I think he was an associate and business person for with donald trump for a very long period of time and then came this crucial critical meeting in 2015, where they formulated this conspiracy to illegally or unlawfully allegedly us what the prosecution is going to say interfere with the election and it was all about the election at that point. And we know because one of the things he said was with the doorman that was not that we were not able to confirm that story. In fact, we debunked it, but had it been real, we would have released it after the election. It was very clear that what they were doing was about the election. And at that point when youre paying, wasnt to protect melania trump. It was about the right if it was then he wouldnt have released it after the election. He was doing these caching kills fine. But when it was about the election, those arent when youre paying people. Its an inkind donations and you have to declare that at a dangerous point there and asked him whether you thought it was a crime. He might say yes. So i dont know if im if im Defense Counsel and crossexamine. I dont know that i go there. I think that feels dangerous if youre asking a witness who has been granted immunity to weigh in on whether they thought something they were doing was problematic. He could abel all agree. And where does that leave . There trump defensive with the jury hearing that the witness of God Challenge says, yeah, i did it, which means he did a two. I wonder if i assume prosecutors would already know the answer to that question at this stage, wouldnt say the interview they didnt have viewed pecker. So they know the answer. They know its exactly question. The interesting thing kara is is that donald trump has not gone after david pecker. I mean, david pecker is potentially testifying very damaging information. He has not gone after him the way Michael Cohen obviously making cohen has been beating him and has a wrote a whole book called revenge, which david pecker has not done but im wondering if donald trump is scared about what else david pecker knows. I mean, thats the question ive been wondering too, because their relationship goes back a long time and david pecker was explaining this. And as you noted, he there is some kind of reverence in the way that there is that they referring to him and the standard calling him mr. Trump, but they go back a long time and he also testified that he was doing caching, killed deals with around donald from talking to Michael Cohen, Finding Stories whether he was actually executing the catch and kill, the different story. But he said if hes doing this since 2007, but everything changed in 2015. And i think his testimony, he also isnt a spot. He didnt flip in the way that Michael Cohen has flipped. Hes giving testimony that is not helpful to trump and that is helpful to the prosecution, but he hasnt said something that is really in its incriminating donald trump, but its not incriminating the way that Michael Cohens. I just wonder if if donald trump would tell his attorney to temper the crossexamination because of who theyre dealing with and what david pecker might know, but it depends what they want to get out. What i think they may do is not crossexamine him in a hostile way and say, you were just a businessman you were doing what you thought was good for the enquirer . And maybe helping your friend, you didnt think you were committing a crime, did you . And i think that is often more effective than beating someone up and saying youre a liar, youre i mean that i think is probably the most, most effective way to deal with them. And the thing about pecker though, is this whole deal has been a nightmare for him. I mean, he was as a lot more successful businessman in 2016 than he is today. He has spent millions of dollars in attorneys fees. He got immunity from the feds, but he almost was indicted by the feds. So i dont know that his attitude towards trump is as reverential as it used to be. I think the cross of him is going to be dealt with Michael Cohen, donald trump wasnt there he dealt with its gonna be all the times that it was he and Michael Cohen again, putting Michael Cohens credibility as the issue because he wants to make it so that Michael Cohen is the one who is the one talking about donald trump. Thank you, everyone. Now, a closer look at catch and kill, which david pecker has been testifying about. And as weve been discussing, is likely be crossed its examined about when the trial resumes not catch and kill relating to the Stormy Daniels or Karen Mcdougal deals. But the one that actually paved the way for them in this deal, they had before the election. The first story that the National Enquirer allegedly intercepted for trump are in regards to the election. Heres randy k about a year before the 2016 election, former Trump Tower Doorman, dino sajudin suddenly got 30,000 richer. The National Enquirer, but exclusive rights to a fake story. He was peddling about a socalled Loved Child Fathered Out Of Wedlock by donald trump with his housekeeper. There was a pattern that first 30,000 was paid to a Trump Tower Doorman to squash a rumor that trump had fathered a child with an employee this was the first time, according to prosecutors, that the head of american media, inke, david pecker, who published the National Enquirer, had ever paid anyone for information about donald trump for his part, trump has always denied having the child in question. This is a copy of the signed Source Agreement between the dorman and david pecker, who at the time was a trump loyalist. The agreement reids source shall provide ami with information regarding Donald Trumps illegitimate child. According to the statement of facts filed by prosecutors when trump was indicted in the Stormy Daniels hush money case, pecker learned in the fall of 2015 that the doorman was trying to sell information regarding a child that trump hi, allegedly fathered out of wedlock at peckers direction that prosecutor said ami negotiated and signed an agreement to pay the doorman 30,000 for exclusive rights to the story, not to publish it, but to bury it. The doormans story about the socalled loved child turned out to be false, just a rumor. In fact, theres still unnamed woman at the center of it, denied it all to the api in 2018 saying this is all fake. Ronan farrow also wrote in a new yorker piece that the housekeepers father said the doormans claim was completed lately, false and ridiculous. After those reports in april 2018 and after hed been freed from his agreement with ami, the doorman gave a statement to cnn. He stood by his story despite the fact there was no evidence to prove it. I can confirm that i was instructed not to criticize president trumps former Housekeeper Due to a prior relationship she had with president trump, which produced a child according to court documents, when ami realize the claim was false and wanted to release the doormen from his agreement with them. Trumps then lawyer turned fixer. Michael cohen, told pecker not to release the doorman until after the president ial election. The agreement the doorman had made with ami in 2015 also stated that if he shared his story anywhere else, hed be forced to pay a 1,000,000 penalty in 2019 after hed been released from the deal, the doorman selfpublished a book, writing in the description, i was the Trump Doorman back then. I wasnt able to fully give my side of the story randi joins us now, where is that doorman today . What anderson we know that doorman certainly is no longer working at trump tower the last time cnn actually put eyes on him was back in 2018 when we tracked him down to his house. That was an Eastern Pennsylvania and that really was the last known address for him. Hes really fallen off the radar, at least the medias radar until this trial, of course. And one would assume anderson that hes likely working somewhere, right. Because that 30,000 he was paid was likely not enough for him to live on all these years, but it seems he really has gone underground randi kaye, thanks so much. 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