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dangerous rhetoric. the former president is not just using words to attack people. he calls enemies. he's also using images of video depicting joe biden tied up in the back of a trump's supporters pickup truck. he posted a picture of the daughter of a judge overseeing his hush money trial in new york, which begins just 14 days from now, cnn's alayna treene joins me now. so look, at this playbook is not new. this is what we expect from donald trump. now that he is the presumptive republican nominee though. and chartered waters are going into trial it's important that we continue to call it out >> i absolutely agree with you, dana, and i think the timing here is very significant. these attacks that he is making on the judge's daughter, if the judge in his upcoming trial in new york, his prosecutors, lawyers, the form the president himself they're all coming as not only donald trump is kicking off his general election campaign in earnest, but also as he is preparing to head to trial later this month, it's really a critical moment for him in his general election campaign, but also in his legal battles. and i do just want to read for you some of what he wrote yesterday on easter sunday going after what he's deemed as his political enemies. he said, quote, happy easter to all including crooked and corrupt prosecutors and judges that are doing everything possible to interfere with the presidential election of 2024 and put me in prison, including those many people that i completely and totally despise because they want to destroy america now, failing nation. and he went on to criticize and attack special counsel jack smith, as well as the georgia district attorney or excuse me, the fulton county district attorney, fani willis, but luck. you said this is a playbook we have seen donald trump use before. your exactly right. and when we say playbook, i mean that quite literally we know that donald trump has written several books laying out this strategy. there was one about how to get rich, where he says, you know, when you have an enemy, you need to go after them viciously and violently and he's continued to do that and it's not only in this campaign, but also he did this in the leadup to 2016, uh, using fear and fear mongering to really try to find his way into the white house the first time around. and it's exactly what he is doing this time. but again, i think the notion of these attacks and especially where he's going after prosecutors and the judges family. it's important because it's coming as he has headed to trial. and this is how he's trying to successfully in his mind, get a lot of his voters and more people riled up about this and contribute to his claims that this is election interference. bene. >> when you said contribute, i thought >> you were going to use a different word afterwards, which can contribute to his campaign, which is another dripper reporters here. pbs newshour is laura barron-lopez, margaret talev of axios and the washington post. aaron blake. >> nice to see you all. >> i'm guessing that you were not on truth social for your easter sunday, so let me just give you a sense of what was happening on his social media platform and what was happening was a lot a lot of things was happening. we're not going to call an explain all this specifics of the post, but we can just show you that there were many, many of them dozens and dozens of i don't know what you call them truths. >> he was >> posting re-posting other people's sometimes rants, sometimes just plain old comments and that's one part of the discussion. the other is what we were talking about width. elena, and that is just to be totally candid, it's the struggle that we all have right now as reporters and knowing exactly what trump is doing, knowing why he's doing it yet from my point of view, feeling that it is really critically important to continue to show as much as we can of what he is doing. because it matters. it has consequences, things that he says have consequences and we know that all too well. >> yeah, we have evidence of that i mean, this goes all the way back to 2016. is alayna said during his rallies in 2015 and 2016, he would talk a lot about violence in a joking way and just glorify violence and attempt to normalize it. and there were fistfights and some arrests that occurred at his rallies. he then, 2017 occurs with the neo-nazis marching in charlottesville. and he says that there were very fine people on both sides and there's an attempt through out the course of the time that he's been whether he was in office or running for office where he has repeatedly tried to desensitize his base to any attempt at violence or an implication of violence, or just rhetoric about violent rhetoric. i mean, we've seen more and more violent rhetoric. and the use of guns also in republican campaign ads over the last eight years or so so there is evidence that this type of rhetoric results in death threats. it results in doxxing, it results in actual violence itself, like january 6. >> so the combination of violent rhetoric and sharing a violent images worse, violence, suggestions of images paired with misinformation about the election, about whether things were rigged that weren't actually rigged, or whether results that are accurate and follow the rule of law should be distrusted when you pair those two things, it makes it connections in people's minds between using violent language what you're even thinking violently about correcting something that actually doesn't need to be corrected because because it wasn't ranked so i think those things are problematic. the it's interesting because one question is, how much does this either engage? into the bay, the base to think about unlawful conduct but the other is how much does it cause the rest of american society just sort of say, you know what, i'm not interested in this. i really don't like politics at and keep people home and make them less interested in voting or engaging around the issues or kind of taking a little bit more control over their democracy. and i was really struck by our colleague paul kane of the washington post, reporting over the weekend on this new findings from this congressional, which going to try to get it right because the congressional management foundation and it found two things. if found that only like one out of five senior officials on capitol hill say that congress has it's functioning the way a democratic legislature should. and the other is that like somewhere close to half of people working on the hill at a senior level are thinking about leaving because of the heated rhetoric coming from the other party. and i think that shows it's not just how it impacts the public, but literally the people who are working in government have now become impacted by the violent rhetoric, and i don't think we should separate this necessarily from all the retirements that we're seeing among more mainstream republicans. it's so difficult to know whether this kind of violent rhetoric actually has a direct impact. so after january 6, during impeachment, trump attacks, all these people who are floating voting for impeachment. a lot of them wind up losing a lot of them lined up retiring but i think that a lot of these people don't want to advertise the death threats that they get. yeah, we got that a little bit during the speakership race last year when a bunch of jim jordan supporters jim jordan said this wasn't sanctioned, but a bunch of jim jordan supporters were very hard on the republicans who were not voting for him. and we saw congressman like don bacon come out and talk about the threats that they were getting because of this and i think that was telling because that didn't involve donald trump's. so they weren't criticizing donald trump, but they were putting out this notice that there was this factor that was the ugliness of politics, the ugliness of people coming after them in doing these threats. and i don't think we shouldn't underestimate how much this is having a behind the scenes impact, not just on congress, but potentially on our judicial system. >> yeah. i mean, that's an important point and the judicial system let's just be clear a big part of why the former president posted about the judge's daughter was intimidation mean it's it's pretty obvious. then the question and you all kind of touched on this dynamic in different ways, is other republicans. and whether or not they want to condemn what donald trump is saying and doing or not, there was a time during the trump presidency where republicans would run for reporters because they didn't want to talk about his latest tweet, then the former president kind of receded from the white hot spotlight for a little while. and they came out and talked about issues and we're really happy about it. and i'm not saying we don't talk to these members about issues. we do. but he's now the presumptive nominee of their party, and i talked to mike lawler, who was one of the front liners at somebody who helped make the house republican majority by winning a seat in new york. here's what he said >> i think everyone needs to tone down the rhetoric, the language, and obviously social media has become a vehicle by which to bludgeon people i just think at the end of the day, the former president current president and on down l, all of us have a responsibility to check our language don, bacon who is, in a similar boat when it comes to his viability in november was on nbc, said something similar >> kind of did the both sides now, it is true that president biden's campaign is being much more aggressive, which is a different story, different debt discussion but they're not putting violin images up. they're not putting pictures of people up saying effectively go after this person it is different. >> it is very different. i mean, there is not both sides are not engaging in violent rhetoric at the same levels whatsoever. the democratic side also so at the same levels as republicans is not lying about whether or not an election was stolen or rig which that whole the whole lie about the 2020 election being stolen is what led to january 6 is to what led to the insurrection on the capitol. and trump's telling people to go march on the capital and not speaking for hours for the 187 minutes to tell them to stop. so there is a big difference. i mean, just to add onto what aaron was saying, it wasn't just with this beaker race where republicans have been intimidated and have received death threats. we heard from mitt romney, who told the atlantic that when there was the impeachment votes going down, especially after january 6, that there were republicans who told him that they would have potentially voted to convict or to impeach president donald trump, but that they didn't because they were worried about the attacks on themselves and on their family. so it worked. i mean, intimidation worked we're almost at a time here, but i do want to talk for a moment about yesterday being easter and there have been a couple of really interesting stories, including from our friend mike bender at the new york times about what donald trump's campaign and him personally what they're doing to try to infuse christianity into his political movement. here's one quote trump has split the atom between character and policy. this is according to a man named michael fay, who has a history professor at masada university. he did it because he's really the first one to listen to their grievances and take them seriously. that's really care about evangelicals. i don't know, but he's built a message to appeal to them directly. i >> certainly think that's true because he's trying to figure out a winning coalition that could carry him for turnout reasons in a general election. but i also think up part of the way he's able to do that is because i'm looking at past results and seeing that a lot of the support for him comes from people who don't agree with aspects of his person on a life or the way you talked to the way he conducts himself but think he can win things and that he can succeed at carry their agenda over the finish line. i think that ultimately is more important than $60 marketing bibles or even the words of the message. if he could use the same message, he could even conduct themselves on the way that resonated more with the agenda it is the winning and the communication skills that her carrying him today. >> yeah. no question. okay. everybody standby because coming up, speaker, mike johnson is signaling he will allow a houseboat on a team ukraine as soon as next week. >> we'll >> that prompt a vote to try to kick him out of the speaker's chair will discuss that, puts a new reporting after a break spatial colombia, the final flight premieres sunday at nine on cnn it's time >> yes. >> the time has come for a fresh approach to dog food every day. >> moore dog people are deciding time to quit 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government open i want to bring in san and capitol hill reporter melanie zanona melanie, what do we know about johnson's plan for ukraine aid? >> well, johnson has been working over this recess break to put together a package on ukraine. it is not finished yet, but he has offered some clues about what that proposal might look like. and speaker johnson is making clear that republicans plan to put their own stamp on any piece of legislation. just take listen to what he said on fox news last night. >> when we return after this first period will be moving a product, but it's, going to, i think have some important innovations. the repo act. if we use the seized assets of russian oligarchs to allow the gradients to fight them. that's just pure poetry. get even president trump has talked about the lone concept where we said we're not just giving foreign aid, where we're sitting up in a relationship where they can provide it back to us when the time is right. >> and johnson also mentioned potentially adding an expansion of liquefied natural gas exports. so essentially what he is doing here is trying to load up the package with goodies to try to attract more republican support. but johnson has got to be careful because he is going to need significant democratic support to get this thing over the finish line. so he has some very big decisions to make in the coming days and weeks, including whether do attach ukraine aid to israel aid and the border the art of legislating at an easy you and our colleagues have some great new reporting about how the house speaker is >> hoping to thread the needle here. not just about actually getting this done with the democrats and enough republicans, but for him personally not to do so and trigger a revolt again inside his party. >> yeah, that is exactly right. dana essentially, how he handles ukraine funding is going to dictate whether or not he gets to keep his speaker's gavel. marjorie taylor greene staunch opponent of ukraine funding, has threatened to force a floor vote on a motion to vacate the speaker's chair at this point, she is not four force that step and no one else has come out behind her and said they supported as well, but johnson cannot take anything for chance in this razor-thin majority. so he said he's going to talk to marjorie taylor greene earlier this week and he's also been consulting with another firebrand and that's republican matt gaetz, who was the architect of the last effort to remove a speaker. but in this case, he's actually emerged as a pretty drawing johnson ally. and he said he has been giving the speaker some important advice. take a listen >> i talked to the speaker often his good friend of mine sent next and other for seven years. i gave the speaker some unsolicited advice that we've got to get into a fighting posture. and i was very pleased with how the speaker received that advice >> so essentially, what johnson is going to have to do is try to find the least politically damaging option when it comes to ukraine and whatever decision sees makes, it's going to have a huge impact not only on ukraine, but also for his speakership, dana somewhere in the country right now, maybe in bakersfield, maybe you're washington kevin mccarthy is throwing things at the wall >> watching and maybe it something else watching what matt gaetz just said it's probably upside down world bankable. yeah. yes >> thank you so much for that great reporting mel appreciate it. our panel is back here. so first of all, let's just talk for just a beat about the matt gaetz a bit. all the guy who orchestrated the crazy eight as kevin mccarthy called them. and now he's giving mike johnson some advice. is this is this buyer's remorse or seller's remorse, not buyer's remorse or is it like what is it? i do like the idea that he emphasized that it was unsolicited advice that mike johnson had actually reached out to him and sought this advice it's certainly interesting, i think that there has been a little bit of a poll pulling back of the motion to vacate fever in that house, republican conference that's not to say it can't happen again because it relies on a very small number of republicans who could combine with democrats. but this ukrainian thing is a huge question for mike johnson he has talked repeatedly about how this is an important thing to get done in some form. how you're going to get that done in a way that republicans want is very difficult. how you're going to get that done in a way that can get through the rules committee, which is a very significant part of this process is very important because you need 290 votes. if you can't do that so i think there's a real question here of is mike johnson gonna kinda go through the motions on this, tried to give republicans what they one on this package. and if that doesn't work, maybe you revert to the senate bill that passed with 70 votes. so there are couple of things that are different now aside from the fact that mike johnson and kevin mccarthy are very different for many, many reasons. the other is that we are very much in an election year at this point, we are april of 2024. and so you have the republicans who are a member of this, members at this conference who are up for reelection in very difficult districts like i talked about mike lawler earlier, who say, we don't need thank you very much our constituents to see this chaos back in washington again obviously she has introduced it. she is not yet made it privileged. but as i said, the de that she introduced it, it's idiotic and it's not going to actually help advance the cause that she believes in. and in fact, it undermines our house republican majority and he has been one really trying hard to get the ukraine aid past. >> yeah, because it would help in districts like his where it's a district that is frontline, that biden won ones where republicans, if they're going to have any chance at those holding onto this thin majority, they have to win again. but i want to go back to something that mike johnson was saying when he was talking about the seizing of the russian assets, that's something that a number of democrats have told me that they support. but the issue is that the white house wants to treat that almost as a last resort. because ultimately if they were to do that, it isn't as much money as they could get through congress and so that's why they're treating that as a last resort that president biden is because they want to see something ultimately pass through congress, whatever they can potentially get through preferably not alone in the form of a loan, which is what speaker johnson was also referring to. and i think that there are donald trump won right. and i think that there are a number of democrats who have said that they might be open to saving speaker johnson if he ultimately gives them something on ukraine. >> i want you to listen to don bacon a republican from nebraska, even though it's nebraska, it is a swing district that he represents. he was on meet the press and he was talking about again the art of legislating and the fact that some of his colleagues need to realize you're not going to get everything you want it's a very narrow majority. >> and one >> or two people can make us a minority and i both a view, you worked with the team. i don't have to get 100% 80% is the ronald reagan rule. but we have some, we have some people that if they don't get 100%, they want to bring the house down and it makes us dysfunctional >> yes. >> i mean, and that's exactly the point the funding ukraine helping ukraine fight back russia is an issue that largely unites the democratic caucus. and weirdly splits the republican caucus, which used to be you know, like national security and strengthened, put your front foot forward so i think if you look at the pew data, pew research center, did some polling back in february showed three fourths of americans slightly higher for democrats slightly lower for republicans three, four. so americans think that what's going on right now with russia invaded ukraine in that war is of, it is of national interests. the united states, you can quibble about how much to spend. you quibble about the details, but just saying we're done. yeah, that's problematic for voters across the aisle. and so now it's a marking marketing issue of packaging issue in many ways, can you message about the border? can you message about pretend? acting american jobs? can you say you're going to make the oligarchs pay for it. but in the end, there is a compromise that could help republicans as well as democrats, voters have history books i mean, three quarters of a >> i mean, that's a good sign. >> all right. everybody standby coming >> up, massive demonstrations in tel aviv, and jerusalem, thousands of israelis take to the streets to call on benjamin netanyahu to resign in that's as he's promising consent israeli forces into rafah, no matter how much pressure he gets from 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for this president or pretty much any democrat at this point, the president won 87% in 2020. he needs a similar margin this year to have pretty much any shot at winning reelection cnn's camila dechalus and isaac dovere are the reporters behind this new piece and they join me here at the table along with laura baroque lopez, who is still here >> i'm just going to read from >> part of your amazing reporting and then i want you to talk about it on the other side. you're going to have some people that are able to vote who not just because of joe biden, not because of donald trump, just feel disengaged from the political process, said milwaukee maire cavalier johnson, i have people in my own family, my own friends network, who probably would not vote in this election, but they will be voting because i'm going to be on their tails between now and november. >> that's right. there a really big disconnect. what's happening within the biden administration and the campaign. we know that they're having these internal conversations about how do we court black voters, particularly black men. but then on the ground, what we're hearing from grassroots organizers is that the engagement is just not there for the energy is just not there. and that is going to be a big problem for biden in this upcoming election is how do you go out there really convinced these voters of what you have done and why they should go out and support your reelection effort. so what did you learn in this reporting that they are trying to do? >> well, there's a whole set of things that they're trying to do that go beyond the usual knocking on doors are talking at black churches or barbershops are just talking about criminal justice reform. it's about a wider range of issues talking about economic opportunity as a big tour that vice president kamala harris is going to undertake the next couple of months, but also things that are about the benefits that they feel like black voters should see. they got from the biden administration's student loan cancellation, big part of that. and doing it in a way that is a range of things from what they call relational organizing, watch it, and going to places in the communities where people are who are not normally engaged and trying to connect with them, make a deal deeper. rapport with them so that they carry through november and figure out ways that they can convince these people that there is some reason for them to be engaged in the political process and be engaged, therefore, joe biden, one of the when i was in wisconsin during the reporting of this piece, one of the things that i was told is that 50% of the people that they're hitting up with this this new approach to organizing. we're not in the voter file before. wow, that means that they were not getting contacted by campaigns in 2022 or 2020. this is a huge trove of, you know, of those people just didn't vote or are they voted, but they weren't encouraged to do. >> it seems like they weren't voting and they certainly weren't being contacted by the campaign. and when you look at these numbers, wisconsin there are local elections in the primary there tomorrow wisconsin was when by 21,000 votes in 2016 and 23,000 votes, i think actually reverse that in 2020 very, very tight margins. and it's not just wisconsin when you're talking about, of course, milwaukee, they're huge concentration of black voters, but pretty much every battleground state that the pressure as an actor is hoping to win north carolina pennsylvania, georgia. these are places that have huge concentrations of black-box >> isaac's point on this is that because they're targeting this new population of voters, what worked in 2016, what worked in 2020? it can't work again, this just them stopping at a barber shop just to talk to people for five seconds. that's not going to work this time around. so they're really trying to strategize new ways to reach this demographic of voters democrats, as >> you mentioned, dana have one, about 80% or more of the black vote over almost every single election cycle in modern history. and so the question is, do they stay at home or do they turn out for president biden? president trump as showing that he's peeling some away with young black men particularly on concerns around the economy when democratic pollster i spoke to recently so that in the focus group save conducted whether it's young black male voters or young hispanic voters, their concerns are more around the economy when they hear president biden say things like inflation, the inflation rate in the is amongst the lowest compared to other countries that have come out of the pandemic. that doesn't necessarily resonate with them. they want to hear more specifics about what exactly he's doing, what he's going to do if you were to win reelection, really great reporting. thank you so much for joining the conversation. check it out on cnn up next, my friend and colleague, alice and camerota, a very raw memoir. 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same room right now? yeah. yeah. this is proving it. there will be we are both jersey girl, but we did have similar experiences though you're not going to read mine in a book. why? because i'm not as brave as you are >> yeah. >> but but you really lay it all out there you described this book as a decades long search for home and you found it just for awhile with the punk rock band called shrapnel you are 13 years old. the first time i ever saw shrapnel, i was 13 years old. they were playing at my future high school called red bank regional and it was one of the most electrifying, life changing moments for me and not just for me, there was something that happened in the alchemy of that room where to this day, people who, who, who loved live music, who've seen thousands of shows around the world still remember that night something happened that night where we all just felt cannot create a quote from your book about that. and then i want you to condense. >> as i >> staggered out of red bank regional that night, i felt as if adore had been blown open, blasting me into a different dimension. i knew everything that had come before was a past life and f ethan, anyone? then was a love of your life at age 30. >> he was a child shrapnel. were soldiers, but something else happened in the rapture of that night, something communal and transcendent yeah that's a big sentence. i mean, in in some ways, i do think that night set my life on a different trajectory and i do think that by falling in love with this band and finding belonging it did, as you'll read in the book, i was in lots of sort of dicey situations in dangerous situations, and i do think that that did lay the groundwork for my job as a journalist. i credit some of this with my life now, dicey situations because you've followed this >> so you were kind of penny >> lane ish well, i wish i tried, but i just loved them and they didn't have that much interested in a teeny bopper following them around the truth often had to save me from life threatening situations. but what the real, the larger point is is that i was looking for belonging. i was an only child of bourse parents. i was desperate for belonging and i found it with this group of fans of this band. and my friends in high school. and then i was uprooted when i was 15 and moved away from the epicenter of the universe, which you know, is new jersey copyist to washington state on a whim, basically by my mom where we knew no one >> and i >> spent the next i would say decades trying to find belonging and home. and as you'll read some of it, i've found in our wonderful tv news family, because i've always always looked for surrogate family's tv news has been a wonderful home for me. but i ultimately found it with my husband and kids, but it took a long time. it's so funny that you say that because i know you as obviously a tremendous journalist, a wonderful person. but as a wife and a mom in a pretty traditional family? >> yes. when you >> describe i mean, never mind the things that i love, going to friendlies. as a jersey girl, i remember you know, you were, as you said, the only child of parents who divorced. you were quite young. you are latchkey child. i can say you said your dad, who was very eccentric, was arrested for robbery among other things. and so you were trying to find that belonging and no, i was trying to find stability. i was trying to find foundation. and it wasn't things that i could give myself. and as people we'll see when they read the book, i struggled. i think that it's funny. this is such a unique story because, you know what the mural falls in love with shrapnel from new jersey, but it's what i've learned for the past few days and it's been out, is that it's a universal story in the search for home, which i think is hard wired into our dna. and in the search for belonging and for family, and it was hard for me, it wasn't easy. i had lots of moments of depression and despair, but i did it and i hope that that inspires people and at some point you will tell me how you got into cbgb because i was definitely pointing out cool enough to try to go in the tunnel or across the bridge to do that happily, i'll show. thank you for coming on. this is the book that love. thank you so much for being here. thank you for joining inside politics, cnn news central starts after the break it's time to feed the dogs real food not highly processed palace. the farmers dog is fresh food made with whole meet and veggie it's not dry food. it's not what food >> it's just >> real food. it's an idea whose time has come >> don't know, i've got to go thanks. john >> to dream about it for years. we were made to help you book as in minutes make your first moos with battery power vapor. i still >> right now save $50 on the let's say 57 battery trimmers set real still. >> find yours >> thinking >> i'm thinking about her honeymoon about africa so far, hot air balloon ride, swim with elephants, weight three, four to 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