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However, the Fraud Judgment against him while he appeals it. But this morning his lawyers say he cant find an Insurance Company to underwrite it for him. Now what happens and why cant the cell for claim billionaire, but the cash up himself plus eighttenths phone call, President Biden and Prime Minister netanyahu will talk today for The First Time in weeks. It comes after a furious netanyahu told me in an interview previewed that he doesnt need american politicians telling him what to do. And this behind some of the biggest political victories of the late 20th century. Join me live this. Our James Carville Have Ogallala together again with their Reelection Advice now, for President Biden im dana bash. Lets go behind the headlines and inside politics first up that Breaking News about attorneys for former president donald trump, calling it practically impossible to get a bond to pay the 464 Fraud Judgment. Cnns Kara Scannell joins us live from new york. Can you put this in laymans terms for us, kara yeah. So the deadline for donald trump to come up with the 454 million that he personally is on the hook for plus interest is just around the corner. Its next week. And what trumps attorneys are telling a new York Appeals Court panel today that they cant get an insurance underwriter to cut back this amount of money. They said that theyve approached 30 Insurance Companies. None of them are willing to underwrite a bond of this size. And they said that there are two obstacles theyve encountered. Some Companies Just are not capable of posting a bond and excess of 100 million. This is five times that amount, and that the ones that can none of them will accept any property as collateral in order for them to underwrite the bond they want trump to give them cash or stock, something that can quickly turn into cash. And that is what in the words of one of trumps attorney has become a major obstacle. So theyre telling me Appeals Court they cant come up with this bond there have asked the Appeals Court to allow them to go forward and appeal the entire decision in this case without posting the ban saying that trump has the real estate properties, they are the assets they can be something that the new York Attorney Generals Office can sees. So theyre asking for this continuation of not having to put up the money in order to appeal okay. Cara, thank you so much for that reporting appreciate it. I want to bring in cnns Kristen Holmes and former federal prosecutor, nato mariotti. Were not lets start with you because youve representative you represent it large Real Estate Developers before what happens if they cant get a bond off, they cant get a bond. A Collection Efforts go forward, which first of all can be expensive. Okay. Its a Court Process where the new York Attorney general is going to be trying to collect that judgment, could potentially put liens on properties in essentially entering that order into various other proceedings. For example. So that would potentially be an issue for trump. He doesnt if hes already got his real estate highly encumbered with loans and so on, having to deal with Collection Efforts and pay attorneys to fight off Collection Efforts is yet another problem that he doesnt want to have to deal with and his attorneys say that he approach 30 underwriters to back the bond, does that make sense to you that they would all say no well, in my experience, Real Estate Developers tend to be very highly illiquid. They tend to be highly leveraged. They tend to have all sorts of loans. They might ever revolving line of credit. They may have various loans and personal guarantees out there. However, what i will say is that this is not a complete surprise that donald trump, its not like the new York Attorney generals case happened over the course of minutes. Id happen over the course of years and trump could anticipate potential judgment ben and the fact that he hasnt prepared by refinancing and making, Selling Properties and so on, suggest that he may be less wealthy than he is portrayed himself to be. On that note. Thank you for teeing up. Kristen holmes, who covers the Trump Campaign for us. Kristin you know very well that a big part of Donald Trumps identity is how wealthy he is. And the idea that he cant pay this money. I mean, it wouldnt be Out Of This World for uri or most normal people not to pay half 1 billion and not to have that lying around in our bank account but might be different when it comes to how donald trump thinks hes perceived yeah. Did i just want to start by saying that you should know that there are a lot of trump allies who watch your show and theyve been texting me with the argument of 1 moos billionaires are not liquid, is not that surprising. The other arguments saying this is about the Insurance Companies, this insane the amount this is their words, not mine in terms of the bond, these Insurance Companies cant get that much that much clout. All so there is an argument here among trump world, but as you note, donald trump himself has painted himself has entire image, not just politically, but also before that his brand on being a billionaire and that is why this case was so personal for him in the first place, was the idea that everything he had built was essentially on ally was it was fraudulent that he wasnt really this rich, that he had inflated those numbers. Thats why you saw him so fascinated and so intent on being part of this case sitting in that courtroom listening to these various witnesses, because it is to his personal brand. It also goes to his political brand. This idea that i built myself up as a billionaire and i could do that for you to goes away if you cant afford to pay this money. And let me just go back to it. Were not on this because you did mention that most Real Estate Developers are not liquid they cant just write a half 1 billion check. I think that is probably true for most billionaires are though. I dont certainly have that experience to really know firsthand but if they have assets the question is, you said, maybe if he prepared, he would start to sell things off. I mean, is that a real possibility that he might have to do that . Well just say that in other circumstances, other matters that ive handled that is whats happened essentially Real Estate Developers refinance properties, Sell Properties do what they have to do to get cash. Now, candidly, ive never been in a case where Real Estate Developer needed hundred grids and hundreds and hundreds of billions. Its only been in the tens of millions, but nonetheless, for those Real Estate Developers, it was a very significant asked to come up with that kind of muddy if you have if your net worth is in the hundreds of millions. But for donald trump nonetheless, he could have anticipated this and sold the property in the midst of the new York Attorney generals proceeding. I really would say one of two things is true here. Either he doesnt have the wealth that he suggests he has or he didnt plan whatsoever was so blind to what was occurring that he essentially left tim self in a position where now hes going to incur significant costs and hassle and disruption to his business that was unnecessary okay. Were not were going to thank you at this point. Really appreciate you giving us that perspective. I wanted to talk more about politics, kristen, youre going to stay with us because we saw some of the darkest rhetoric weve heard yet from donald trump on this 2024 campaign trail, he spent the weekend praising insurrectionist dehumanizing immigrants, threatening to put political opponents in jail. Im told some of the language went so far that it made even somebody his own campaign uncomfortable, kristen, i know you have been on the phone with your sources inside the trumps, Trump Campaign. People who advise him, what are you hearing . Well, i talked to one ally who thinks, put it best this weekend saying he certainly doesnt make our lives any easier when he talks like this. But one thing i want to note is that donald trump always speaks in these dark rhetoric. He has been doing this since he launched his candidacy. Remember, cpac, but a year ago, he talked about i am your retribution if you hire me, ill be your revenge. The difference now is that weve entered a different stage of donald trump. Donald trump is no longer living in a conservative vacuum where only his speeches are taken on conservative networks where he rants on truth, social, which has far less millions less users and somewhere like twitter, he is now oh, the gop nominee. He is entering a general Election Campaign cycle. So everything he is saying, all of these dark remarks are being really amplified, particular by people who are watching for The First Time tuning in for the fact that he is now the republican nominee. And also by the Biden Campaign, who are using these remarks, turning them into campaign ads, into little clips on the internet. This is something donald trump has been doing. This is how he talks. Now, the idea is what happens when you shift into a general election. And the big question is, can his Campaign Control any of this . They know who their candidate is. They know they cant control what he says when he he says it, how he says it, but how do they control the messaging to try to get away from this . Because this is just to donald trump it is. Yeah. Such good points. Thank you so much for that reporting, kristen, before we talk more about what the former president s said over the weekend, i want you to listen to some of it to get a better sense of the context. Of the language who is using ladies in gentlemen, please rise for the horribly at unfairly treated january 6, Hostages Spirit from the hostages. And thats what they are as hostages. Theyd been treated terribly and very unfairly. And, you know that Everybody Knows that and were gonna be working on that suit as the first day we get into office was going to save our country. Were going to work with the people to treat those unbelievable patriots. And they were unbelievable patriots. If i had prisons that were teaching teeming with ms 13 and all sorts of people that theyve got to take care of for the next 50 years, right . Young people, theyre in jail for years. If you call him people, i dont know if you call it people in some cases than not people in my opinion, ive seen the humanity and these humanity, these are bad these are animals, okay, were going to put a 100 tariff on every single car that comes across the line and youre not going to be able to sell those guys. If i get elected now, if i dont get elected, its going to be a bloodbath for the whole thats gonna be the least of it. Its going to be a bloodbath for the conscience journey me now to discuss all of this is cnns manu raju, lauren, laura, sorry for her on lopez of the pbs newshour and bloombergs to lay a mohsen. Thank you so much for all beings. In here. I think what kristin said is so important. And ive been to i went to a few trump rallies during the primary campaign. We all because its our job to listen to and watch what donald trump has said. It is different because the audiences is different. Its the entire country country. He doesnt just need primary voters now he needs enough voters to win reelection and he has not changed his tune. In fact, hes maybe doubling down on it the day after he gave that speech, he went on his Social Media Platform talking about liz cheney. She should go to jail along with the rest of the Unselect Committee said his first acts as president will be to close the border, drill, baby drill, and free the january 6 hostages being wrongfully imprisoned. I just want to say as you come in you were there on january 6 the people who are in jail after due process are not hostages. Yeah, theyre not. And it was not a normal tourists visit either. It was a violent attack, deadly attack, orphic attract, the capital that many people are down trumps own party believe is a shameful day. Whats been remarkable, how trump has gone to embrace you would think in the aftermath of all of that, that you would run away from this are trying to clean it up in some way. I know this is central to his campaign. He began his rally talking about january 6. This really just speaks to trumps got one strategy, one note that hes been doing in 2016, 2020, and now 2024 red meat to the base. It is not a pivot to the general election. Its not a pivot to more moderate voters. He believes rile up the base, maybe the other guy is less popular than you are and the disaffected middle pick off enough to win election. And thats what hes doing here i think its also important to note that this is the type of rhetoric that trump has used since 2016. I mean, he would have to yeah, he would more a phi violence. He would joke and talk about beating people up during his Campaign Rallies with sometimes broke out in fistfights and arrest in 2,015. 20, 16 and the historians and scholars that ive talked to say that making violence patriotic, you know, hes called january 6 insurrection is patriots he saluted them, played The Star Spangled Banner that they saying making violence patriotic is fundamental to authoritarian and fascist movements according to scholars who study this, this also comes after a week of cnns jim sciutto revealing that trump himself has praised dictators authoritarians, adolf hitler himself. Hes echoed the words of adolf hitler. So, yes, his campaign is trying to say he was talking about the auto industry, but in that quote, he also says that that would be the least of it. And its very clear who hes trying to speak to and that he sending a signal to those same january 6 defendants that its okay if im elected, you will be pardoned. You will be released and what signal does that send to other supporters in the future that, that violence may be okay . Yeah. And your your right heel . Yeah obviously has been doing variations of this since he stepped came down that escalator in june of 2015 the difference if there is one post january 6 is i think because of the magnitude of what happened on january 6, and because so many of his supporters were actually cowering, understandably, so you hoping that they werent going to get hurt or worse, that this is still something or even more so that donald trump is leaning into and according to some great new reporting from isaac deavere, Steve Contorno and andy gray, annie grayer, rather joe biden is kind of surprised about this as well, the story is, why does biden keep mentioning january 6 . Because trump wont stop talking about it. Biden aides use words like stunning to describe the way trump has not just kept january 6 present, but burrowed even deeper into Conspiracy Theories while trump is talking about what he will do for the insurrection as biden aides believe theyll be able to make the case to voters that the president will make a difference in the lives of the people who arent in jail for invading the capitol what were seeing is a pivot toward the general election from both campaigns, you heard this. You just read the comment from the Biden Campaign and they are trying to remind everyone of the a6 of the trump era because theres a huge part of the electorate that actually has nostalgia about the trump era. And trump is out there kind you have like a bit of an incumbent because he says i will ive been president and ive accomplished all these other things and look at that other guy. Meanwhile, biden doesnt also want to necessarily always named trump. Theyre both pivoting. Its coming toward each other and now were hearing trumps rhetoric. Get wilder and wilder as he is rallying his base and try time to like menus said, grab the disaffected middle. Yeah, amy, what a gift to the bun campaign for trump to continue to inject this into the public sphere because they are seeing this is an opportunity to run with here for trump to be effective in his campaign. You think you want to make this our referendum on the current president and the things that heel he has not done well in office right along the economy about how inflation has gone and all the rest. But instead, hes reminding voters about january 6 and is bringing right back from the conversation. And then i will just say that the people who you talked to every day during the primaries, if they didnt endorse trump, they could say, well, ive endorsed x, y, or z person they cant say that anymore. Governor dwyane and stan State Of The Union, who is not exactly been a rah rah trump guys said he would endorse him as did senator mike rounds told me that as well. The only person who hasnt is mike pence, very actively not endorsed him and says that he will not endorse him. Hes an outlier, but i guess if somebody threatens your life, then maybe thatll do it to you everybody standby up. Next, President Biden and Prime Minister netanyahu speak for The First Time in weeks were going to have some details coming up your night. Its states of scandal with jake tapper. Sunday, a nine on cnn the nail salon. Im at the Grocery Store im at the combination now so lawn and Grocery Store, shes at the nail salon and the Grocery Store. Shes a thick combination nail still not and Grocery Store ive got a festival set and go. Shes at my door. 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That is something that biden has been pressing netanyahu onto open some of the land and crossings to try and surge the humanitarian assistance into the enclave and the other issue that arose is the situation in rafah. And this is of course, as israel prepares for what it calls a major operation in that Southern City in gaza, the white house has said that kind of operation should not go forward without a credible plan to protect the millions of Palestinian Civilians who are sheltering there. The white house says it has not seen a credible plan, so far. So certainly that is an important issue for these two men to discuss now this call does come against the backdrop of that speech that senator Chuck Schumer delivered last week calling for new elections in israel. President biden called that speech are good one, he didnt endorse the call for new elections, but he also didnt condemn it either, and certainly did contribute to this growing rift between the two men. And i think the cadence of their calls really does illustrate that divide at the onset of this war, they were talking on a daily, weekly basis. It had ive been in more than a month since they had spoken before today, so certainly you get a sense of a relationship that is very much fraying as this conflict proceeds, danielle, question, Great Reporting, kevin. Thank you so much. I know youre going to continue to get more information about what happened in that phone call. It meantime, i spoke to Prime Minister netanyahu on State Of The Union he was not happy about what senator schumer said. Horsey is the highestranking Elected Jewish member of the Us Government. Schumer called, excuse me netanyahu called it absolutely wrong. Schumer called him an impediment peace and asked for new elections. After the War Winds Down i think what you said is totally inappropriate. Its inappropriate for to go to a Sister Democracy and try to replace the elected leadership there. Thats something that israel, the israeli public does on its own were not a banana republic. This call center to schumer. The majority how do you have israelis support the policies of my government . Its not a fringe government and represents the policies supported by the majority of the people. If senator schumer opposes these policies is not opposing me, is opposing the people of israel. There were other polls and israel, three major Israeli Television stations that said what israelis also support . Our early elections thats what i really want to focus on here is senator schumer not calling to topple the government, but specifically says, when the War Winds Down will you commit to calling new elections . Thats my question. Will you donna twothirds first of all, what you said is wrong. The vast majority of israelis opposed early elections until the war doesnt end, weve just had many polls on that look a lot of the pools are a twist 12 says guided. 12 says 64 of israelis two, but all you learn show thats not now im afraid that they asked him the question, do you supported during the war and they said, thats not what humorous tone number war. Hes calling for new elections the War Winds Down well, well see when we win the war, will you commit to new elections . Well, i think thats something for the israeli public to decide, but its not, its not something. Now lets look. Thats something for the israeli people to decide. I think its ridiculous to talk about it. Joining me now is axios reporter and cnn analyst barak ravid is it what people in israel are talking about . Is that true . And while i have you, what does it tell you that netanyahu and joe biden have not spoken in a month . Given the situation going on, the very act of war in gaza well, lets start with the second question. I think it means a lot because there previous calls were not good either. And i think we see a trend of biden and ateneo drifting away over really growing differences about the policy, the israeli policy around the war in gaza. And i think that what we heard by now from the white house about this call doesnt even start to really portray the call that is taking place. As they spoke for 45 minutes, i heard from an israeli official and im pretty sure that other issues also came up like the issue of the Hostage Talks and schumers speech and bidens support for schumers speech im pretty sure this was the main issue in the call because at least at the moment it seems that biden decided just to put it put out there, everything he feels about netanyahu and his policy yeah. Really quickly, could you just explain what the sentiment is inside israel about netanyahu yes. Yes. So you said that netanyahu didnt didnt like what schumer said. It seems he even disliked even more. Your questions and and your attempt to get a simple commitment from them about whether he will go for an early election after the war ends. And i think you see in every poll, just last wednesday three polls in three main tv channels in israel show that if elections were held today, netanya wouldnt lose the election. He will be completely destroyed completely defeated. His party will be cut by half in the number of seats it gets his coalition will be cut by more than 20 seats. And i think its very clear that in all the polls you see that most israelis want an election once the war is over its really stunning given where the Biden Administration was, where congress was, where much of the world war was after october 7, when that horrific barbaric attack happened that things could be so afraid between is not israel, but between Benjamin Netanyahu and the Us Government. Thank you so much. 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So be better being on good regime streaming exclusively on macs no class able to and your ballot born and your heart i just kinda imagine why they agreed to positioning. That puts him its such a severe angle that was a clip from the famed political documentary, the war room, about bill clintons 1992 president ial campaign. Its been more than 30 years. But there they are caravel and paul begala are still at it there with me now to share their advice for the current democratic president facing his own tough reElection Campaign. Nice to see you. Fellas as nikki haley would say. Yeah, great. I want i want to start by playing something that nancy pelosi, the former house speaker, told me on State Of The Union yesterday, she was clearly not happy after listening to what donald trump said in ohio on Saturday Night pretty dark stuff, talking about a whole bunch of stuff including what happened on january 6. Listen to what she said if something wrong here. How respectful, i am of the American People and their goodness. But how much more do they have to see from him to understand that this isnt what our country is about. I just say with all the respect in the world for voters and their right to make their decision way these equities how much are you concerned about more women or women having the right to choose or lgbt people having the right to their lives that you would vote for him. Okay you wouldnt even allow me in your house much less than the white house . James, im going to start with you. What are your thoughts yes. I agree with the speaker. Present needs to do as a financial advantage, trumps on his hind feet legally. He clearly going mad and how i would attack right now, id spend that money i would jump all over him because my feeling is when your opponent is drowning, the first thing you do is throw him or her an ankle. And thats what he needs right now hes drowning. Give him an anvil music to my ears you know, The First Time Speaker Pelosi is exactly right. Not only just the greatest speaker in my lifetime, the great speaker in american history. But what i would say two words, maam, were 231 days out and voters dont know enough about the cic because we havent told them enough about it. And james exactly right . President biden and his campaign done a true roofing job of raising money. Democratic party has done a great job. Republican party seems to be broke. Mr. Trump seems to be broken attacks or attack attack, stop bragging and start bashing thats what needs to do. And when you say that paul, you mean . Maybe less of the look at all the things ive done for you, and more of lookup bad. This guy is we need trump. Yes, but i would link some. Bill clinton didnt get credit for us economy until Newt Gingrich shut the government down. Barack obama didnt get credit for obamacare until republicans tried to repeal it. Biden will get credit for his accomplishments. But if i were to we put cardinal sin back up, i would change to say, its the threat stupid trump is a threat. Hes a threat to your lower cost prescription drugs. Hes a threat to 35 insulin. Hes a threat to obamacare, gotten nosy is a threat to a womans right to choose and all those other things. Speaker, please. Threat to our democracy so that way you can say see i did this. I got you. Lowcost insulin. I got you Cheaper Health Care premiums. I got you lower prescription drugs. And trump is a threat to all them. He will repeal all that and take it away from you. The different message and just bragging games. When he said he would put your sign backup just so happens. We have that time. We have a video of it. The younger people who might not know just by him saying its your sign, its the economy stupid modernize that for us. Do you agree with paul . I totally agree with paul this is a race at the first race from president ial race, my lifetime is really not about the future but its about reminding people not only what he did, but what he tried to do, and what he says hes going to do. I mean, theres this is like being a mosquito in a noodle just colony. Its hard to pick a target, but youve got to pick one and go what do you really think . I also do . Do do come up with these analogies beforehand, are they just come off the top of your head . Thats amazing. I want you both go ahead. Theyre kinda come off the top my head, but its something that you did that i think its a problem for democratic party. He ought to tell Bibi Netanyahu to shut a stupid pyle, as long as hes taking our money, we are perfectly willing to give advice. And broadway he came and spoke to our congress hes got to understand how much money United States who sent to israel during his Prime Ministership in an s real value in attacking him because he is not popular in america and hes not popular and israel paul he and his advisers, he meaning Prime Minister netanyahu obviously see what Chuck Schumer did last week. The fact that President Biden called Chuck Schumer and his lengthy address about the need for new elections in israel, a good speech im guessing you think that thats good politics, not just for the Democratic Base . Yes its good politics and good policy, good substance. You wont find a stronger supporter of the state of israel than joe or Chuck Schumer. Frankly, carville and i, we both love that country. We work there butt Making Yahoo Seems to hit conflated his own political and legal interests with the countrys interests and youre exactly right to hold him accountable. Every all my friends in israel say that they would love to get rid of nature. Yahoo, twothirds of the country and the pole that you cited from channel 12. So yes. And back home in america, very good politics and good policy we have to support israel, but we dont have to put up with nathan. Yeah. Before before i let you guys go, i want to ask quickly about we dont have time to run it, but they Biden Campaign has a new ad appealing to africanamerican voters. Harder for democrats, harder for President Biden. Im guessing than it has been in your political lifetime to get that vote. Is that fair that this is very correct. Theyre very corrective. Be concerned about and that black male particularly the younger black males from disengaged and its got to be a party to how we communicate and reengage, but it may not say, hold up our whole lot of polling this morning. And it is a problem. 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Biden team has to take the threat of kennedys seriously and this is, you look, theres one pull off from pennsylvania last week that said that rfk junior would pull in nine percent in that race and neck and neck race, who knows how that can turn maybe some trump voters, maybe some disaffected biden voters may go that way. So it is a real challenge. The question is going to be how aggressively does biden and democrats take on rfk junior . Do they attack him . Go about his issues and the policy positions hes taken today, ignore it. They allow superpacs, Democratic Superpacs to go after biden. That is the rfk junior, that is the real debaters on guam and the democratic party. Yeah, youre not going to see President Bidens campaign at this stage directly attack rfk junior there right now, trying to say, look, this is a twoperson race. It is just against President Biden and donald trump, but you are going to see the democrat critic national committee, which has already started doing this they have a whole team now to go after third potential thirdparty threats, and they are aggressively attacking rfk junior right now, specifically about his Conspiracy Theories about him being antivaccine, about how he has said that chemicals in water cause people to become transgender. All of that across thats the board. They are highlighting that aggressively. Now, i think what you could see come the summer, if there appears to be a candidate like rfk Junior Sticking in it or someone else whos running a different third party race, you could very well see the Biden Campaigns sources close to them told me, run testimonials from from voters who voted for jill stein sign in 2016 and read interesting about i did this. It actually potentially tilted the race in states like michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, its a Great Reporting nugget. I just want it because you both mentioned how much of a threat rfk junior could be, and that just depends on where hes on the ballot. Ill let of course, because hes only on the ballot officially right now in utah, which is not going to make much of a difference either way just weve talked about this on the show, but its good to remind our viewers. The campaign says, they met the Signature Threats Threshold in new hampshire, hawaii, and nevada, superpac, the one that supports him says they met the threshold in arizona, georgia, michigan, and South Carolina arizona, georgia, nevada, michigan. Those four those are critical. Any one of them would be critical talking about a blast from the past, you just talked to James Carville shortly after that we had the Big Nader Elections where everyone talked about how close the race this was between gore and w bush. And maybe nader was in there to pulling votes from gore. And so there is this disruptive appearance of third party candidates. And so we havent heard from no labels yet. There was a lot of hullabaloo around them. This is the election and the matchup that no one seems to want voters are generally unhappy with the options that are in front of them. But at the same time, we havent seen any real pattern emerge of a thirdparty candidate getting any attention. But if youre right, which im sure youre reporting is if the Biden Campaign is preparing for it, thats giving them some credibility, right . There are third party you mentioned nader in 2092. There was a thirdparty candidate named ross perot, who had a pretty big yeah, absolutely. It the challenge to present you attack rfk gender. If you do that, then you elevate him and thats going to be one of the example away as well. You elevate him, or ignore them and thats a risk as well. Yeah. Not easy manu, laura and sulla. Thank you so much. 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We are vehemently against this appropriation of our mothers name and this insult to her legacy. The two that obviously stand out here are our elon musk and Rupert Murdoch when you think of trying to create a more just society, which of course was moms ultimate goal . Those are probably about the last names that would come to mind is shear the Opperman Foundation drop the title woman from the name of the award to include trail trailblazing men and women. Its not clear why the ginsburgs familys says it was not informed formed of the change. Thank you so much for watching inside politics today. Cnn news central starts after the break i brought in a ceu or max protein with 30 grams of protein. 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