fulton county courthouse with all the breaking details, plus running out the clock. it's team trump's legal and political strategy with multiple court dates. now on hold. >> it is paused so voters could decide the former president's beit before any of his cases reach a jury. and the white house has a message for republicans trying to impeach president biden, move on >> shockingly, >> the house may listen, will bring you that new sin and reporting this hour. i'm dana bash. let's go behind the headlines inside politics we start in georgia where a judge just ruled that da fani willis willis can continue spearheading the election case. they are against donald trump if she removes her top deputy in the case, nathan wade, with whom she has had a romantic relationship that is part of a win for the district attorney, but the rest of the ruling leaves a major stain. the judge went on to admonish willis for the relationship, writing, quote, georgia law does not permit the finding of an actual conflict. four, simply making bad choices even repeatedly cnn's nick valencia is outside the courthouse. nick a technical win for fulton county district attorney, fani willis, but a massive indictment on her behavior judge, saying that there was no throughline proven here that fani willis was able to enrich yourself by hiring nathan wade as a lead prosecutor, but he was highly critical of that relationship, saying that georgia law does not permit an actual conflict for bad choices even repeated ones. and this is what he is saying in part of his ruling just a moment ago saying, quote sorry, just give me one second here. i was getting a phone call, dana, as this happened, give me one second to get this full screen. the final i know means it's an indication that the court condones this tremendous lapse in judgment or the unprofessional manner of the district attorney's testimony during the evidentiary hearing. so during that course of the evidentiary hearing, during her testimony, fani willis called ashleigh merchant a liar. she was the defense attorney that first brought forward these allegations and the judge, those saying in his ruling that she came with her own credibility issues on the stand, we should expect you've stayed. out, the former president's attorney here in this case to launch an appeal. and there are also some big questions that still remain here. one principally, when will we see nathan wade file his resignation letter? or when will that happen? and also will the fulton county district attorney's office be able to get this case back on track for a trial date before the november election. client dana >> such good questions. and nic, if that's somebody calling with a hot scoop, get back, get back on the aaron tell us what it is. okay. >> thanks, dana. you got it. thanks. and we still still have not heard from fani willis, his office, as you just heard from nick, but donald trump's lead attorney, steve sadow, said, this. he said while respecting the court's decision, we believe the court did not afford appropriate significance to the prosecutor prosecutorial misconduct of willis and wade. he went on to say that he would continue can you to fight to end this case, which should never have been brought in the first place, are excellent legal panelists are here to give their expertise and also more reporting. cnn's paula reid, cnn's laura coates, and former dekalb county district attorney, jay tom morgan. i'm going to start with you. they're down in georgia. jay tom morgan just the big picture you know, fani willis, you certainly have worked alongside her, if not directly with her. what's your reaction to this ruling? >> a dan it's a slap to the head to the prosecutor, but not a fatal knocked down clutching. she can stay in the case the judge said, what we've been saying all along. there's not an actual conflict. there's no finding that there's a financial interest. or personal interests in the conviction of the defendant's >> however, you didn't ban, as you know, what appearance of a conflict which gave him a continuum of remedies. and he decided the remedy here is that she can either dismiss herself from the case or dismissed mr. wade from the case, which she should have done from the very beginning, to be honest. >> okay. here in the room, paula what are you hearing from your sources out there who are involved in this? about how this case will go forward and the trouble with which it will go forward or maybe not well, look, there's no expectation right now among folks. i've talked to in and around this case that this will go before the election. fani willis hit originally said she wanted to start this case, which is expected to last four to six months by august. but this process to disqualify her has taken up quite a bit of time. now, nathan wade is expected to have to be removed from the case. so it's highly unlikely see that this will start before the election and also look, i think we talk about delay, delay, delay that the trump strategy. yes, they tried to do that, but they're getting a lot of help on not only for example, from the supreme court that took up the issue of immunity when they could have done that months ago, push that one of the federal cases back. but also here you have the conduct here, even though other there was finding of corruption the fact that they had to go through this, this to analyze this pattern of bad behavior, this really did help the trump team not only in terms of delaying it, but also an undermining the credibility of the overall justice system and the prosecutions against trump. yeah, that's how they feel they're like, look, if fani willis can stay on the case, but we feel like for our other goals here this is working for us and pick up on that last point, laura and as you do, i just want to read for our viewers a little bit more of what judge scott mcafee said. he said, quote, yet reasonable questions about whether the district attorney and her hand selected lead s. ada, meaning nathan wade testified on truthfully about the timing of the relationship further underpinned the finding of an appearance of impropriety >> how how does >> that kind of slap as we just heard, or that kind of admonishment who effect prosecuting a case like this? >> no prosecutor wants to enter a courtroom. had everyone think about their a personal life or question their own credibility because you're going to be putting forth evidence through witnesses of course, any statement by an attorney in the courtroom is not evidenced. but what they put through a witness wood beam. but still a jury would know and look at them and perhaps think, should i believe what they say h i gave the benefit of damage to extend that face value argument to this person or not. there's no guarantee that she would actually be the one to try this case anymore than jack smith would stand before a jury? very and say jackson, let me half the people the united states of america, but it is something that is to take into consideration the judge address this though data. >> he did >> not find an actual conflict that rose to the level of prejudicing the the defendants or could undermine their chance at a fair trial. and he went on to say, listen, there is enough time before a jury trial could be in paneled to dispense with a permanent taint on this jury. and so he's aware that there is amnesia that can set in. she's elected official as is he. they have chosen her to be there fulton county da. >> remember this >> hearing did nothing to talk about the underlying facts in this it's case and consider the balancing test here. yes, the salacious details, the credibility assessments made by this judge, problematic, not what any prosecutor wants, but she's going to be asking a jury to weigh, not herself, not her relationships but the conduct of over a dozen defendant will a jury find that more problematic or less than her own? >> i don't want to bring a j. trump back in one second, but just to follow up there's also the practical if assuming that he goes her lead prosecutor, how much does that hobble her ability to actually get the case together? >> it's hard. you have to replace it's that person backfill and get people up to speed on the grand jury testimony. a lot of what prosecutors are relying on is the perfect memory of what the tone, the context of a witness's testimony was. i remember. i want to bring that in because here's how it son to my grand jury. here's how they leaned in. here's how they were in some way provoked to anger and a visceral reaction reading a transcript being brought up to speed to tune of more than two years worth of investigation. >> very hard to do. yeah. i mean, i can't even imagine jay tom. i want our viewers to listen to a bit of what fani willis said on the stand that might have gotten the judge so angry. let's listen you've been intrusive into people's personal lives. you'll confuse, you think i'm on trial. these people are on trial for trying to steal an election in 2020. i'm not on trial no matter how hard you try to put me on trial. >> now just to be clear, she was talking to one of the defense attorneys who was bringing up at this this motion against or not, the judge, but the judge didn't like that and other ways that fani willis behave as she was very clearly annoyed and trying to defend herself dj thom i'm sorry, dan, was that a question? >> yeah. yes, that's a question. when you look at that and you see what the judge did and said about moments like that. what's your takeaway? >> yeah. >> well, i want to allude to what laura just mentioned a few minutes ago. my experience in trying high-profile cases that jurors have a memory of a gnat. by time this case goes to trial. but it's been there not even going to know what we are talking about today. and if you add into that the defense, i am sure it will file immediately for an immediate certificate of review, which is completely and the discretion of judge mcafee. but if he grants it, this case could go over years. >> so i mean, i take what you're saying, but even in a high-profile case like this, i mean, i'm guessing most of the cases that you tried in georgia, we're not national international headlines, not to say that they weren't important, but they didn't have to do with the former president and potential future president of the united states yes, i did try one that had state and national headlines. and again, by time we tried it, there was a lot of just a gift coldness yeah, okay that's that's interesting, paula, you mentioned this and i just talked about this yesterday, but because it's another de and things change >> one look again >> at the overall timeline for not just this, but the other three trials that are pending for donald trump. and the timeline, the classified documents case. the earliest we would see the trial is in august waiting for a judge to rule on that federal election case. that date is dependent on what the supreme court does. >> first >> of all, about immunity of the georgia election case, we're talking about now data uncertain. and then overnight there was a bit of a change in the hush money case. the trial is scheduled still for march 25th, but both sides are asking for a delay. >> yeah, a lot can change in 24 hours yesterday, i believe i said this is the only candidate is expected to go before the election, then you are cush many case the district attorney framing it as the 2016 election interference case. but late last night, the district attorney we revealed that they are not opposed to a 30 day delay in this case. now, the need for the delay is because there's now tens of thousands of pages of evidence that they have to review. and this came from the southern district of new york. federal prosecutors this is a state case right now, dana, there are a lot of questions about why there are suddenly tens of thousands of pages of discovery that they need to look at two weeks before this trial was scheduled to start. now, both sides have their version. the trump lawyers, they argue that this evidence was withheld by the manhattan district attorney the other side argues, in fact, that the trump team weighted to subpoena this evidence, but this was this was really startling because this was the only case that was firmly on the calendar. we'll see how long the judge the judge delays this the defense attorneys are asking for 90 days. he could split the middle, but look, if he done the middle, but if he delays is for 60 or 90 days. dana, that increasingly complicated calendar gets even more crowded and more complicated. this one, i cannot say for certain that former president trump will face any criminal case before the election is likely but it's not certain how much if i screw up with this in new york. >> well, the fault does not rest. it seems with alvin bragg, the da in manhattan. why? because these documents were not in his possession. every prosecutor has to turn over documents through the discovery process because it could include exculpatory material. you may people say things like brady evidence, which means things that could prove that you're actually innocent. i got to turn that over because otherwise, the weight of the government, again, you is entirely unfair and there is no due process that may or may not be contained in these documents or could be harmful documents to trump as well. but if you're the defense, you're going to be standing up there, pounding the table that you have had things withheld from you, whether you like it or not. the fdny i believe was the one who was asked for the material over a year ago by alvin bragg's office. they did not provide it. now that doing so that doesn't matter to the average american listing. they all they hear is the government did not hand over documents in the case where the person who was the defendant already says weaponized government but at the end of the day, it's better to have happened now as opposed to in the rearview mirror when they wouldn't had a stronger case of some sort of misconduct >> and apparently, i'm being told that >> just now the trump team sent a letter to the judge saying 30 days is not enough. yeah. so delay >> it's really it's really surprising everybody. thank you. so what a great conversation, jay tom, thank you. paula you're going to stick around much more on trump's legal travails coming up, including the big question that's hovering over the campaign. what happens if as pathologists reported none of these trials happen before election day >> the soonest with kaitlan collins tonight at nine you have chronic kidney disease, you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with bars sega because they're places would like to be >> for seacliff can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections and low blood sugar are rare life-threatening bacterial infection in the 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inside the biden sort of broader world is they are not planning on a conviction they are not focusing on that a it's out of their control and they have enough challenges to worry about on their own, trying to get people to embrace joe biden as opposed to rejecting donald trump. but they are no longer thinking at any of these cases in georgia. or here might be resolved. the georgia case though is so interesting because i was talking to an advisor who really just kinda talking this out. not sure how it plays because it's a local story in georgia is a battleground state we saw last saturday, joe biden and donald trump were campaigning hours apart, miles apart. we don't know how this plays. this gets so much local coverage in georgia. >> it >> could rally support for donald trump or not. but that is one wildcard here that was not anyone's bingo card. four years ago when georgia became a surprisingly democratic win for biden, they weren't necessarily since early expecting that either. but it's not a must win for biden, but boy, they sure would like it. so it's equal, it's easy for you to, it's harder for him to get to 70 without georgia. >> yeah. and it's so interesting the reason why this is a story, because trump really needed georgia is potentially playing the hall of mirrors. >> it's a holiday right? it also it just sort of undermines the whole legal system and donald, that's what donald trump has been trying to do in his, his whole spiel is the legal system is rigged. it's rigged against me and look at what happened in georgia with fani willis. and so you can't trust the legal system because she's still going to be prosecuting my case and she shouldn't be she doesn't deserve to be there. so in the state of georgia, as you pointed out, even though it's a big local story, she's an elected official. the judge is elected it's going to have some legs in this day when two points really on the one hand, georgia is unique because these were >> republicans who fought back against donald trump, brad raffensperger brian kemp right? this was the state, but there are other rhinos that's right. i keep forgetting once they've got again, they can no longer be a part of the party that was it wasn't clear a sarcastic. okay. but that was what makes it unique about about georgia and also on tuesday i mean, even nikki haley's no longer in the race. she was holding her own against donald trump in fulton county into calc county in the georgia suburbs, was labeled with telling. but finally, remember donald trump's goal is delay, but his real goal was to its all to go away. >> that is not happened in mar-a-lago. the judge did not dismiss the case, even though he wanted to talk about the issues of an ambiguous he says espionage act. he wants to fani willis case to go away if she had been disqualified, there was no chance this case is going to go to trial. the history, let alone maybe even at all. and so delay is one thing, but he doesn't want kick the can down the road. he wants the road to be obliterated >> well, he doesn't want to just delay. he wants to destroy. >> yes. >> and destroy means destroyed people's faith in institutions. and one of those of course, is a judicial six. >> well, that's, that's all true. but the other major factor here, you definitely wants to it. what did you say? don't kick the can down the road. >> yeah. burn the road. are >> destroyed road. good. it was such a good quote that moment >> but jeff >> a big part of if you've kinda go back in time in him announcing at the time that he did in 2022. and the way that he has approached his political campaign and his legal campaign simultaneously is all about him personally i mean, i'm not saying it doesn't want to be president, but a big part of why he wanted to be president and wanted to declare his candidacy early on was to blur the lines, right? and to make it harder for him personally to be successfully prosecuted because oh, i will not just a former president. i am a candidate for president in the future. >> without a doubt, i mean, this is someone who has complete name id. he could have jumped in at the last moment the night before the iowa caucuses, and he could have still one. but the reality is he jumped in first. he wanted to be a candidate for president, so he could say that this was all part of the witch on all part of election fraud, trying to block him from this such good point, or that you made that republicans in georgia stood up to him. it's a little unclear. some of those same republicans will put their jerseys on and vote for donald trump in november. but some may not mean so this is why it's such an interesting laboratory in georgia. this case, if it goes to trial, will be on television every day. it's the only one that will that is different in this as well. and it's also one should he become president that he cannot do anything about because it's a state case. so this is the first ruling, really a string of some pretty positive rulings for the former president from all courts. this is the first one that was not in his favor and it's a big deal. >> it's been pretty lucky >> so far. >> i'm very glad i want you to weigh in on this, but you talked to voters all the time. you're out on the road constantly how much are they? tuned in to all things trump legal >> it's a blur. all these cases run together in blurred together. the georgia is an exception. i haven't been down to georgia for a few weeks to talk to voters are i think that could be different because it's happening there. but i was in michigan and wisconsin most recently, and voters are it just all runs together. what are the cases, what or not, if you don't like trump obviously, you're support of this. if you do, you think it's he's being ganged up on and then you have as you come in, i want you to listen to jamie raskin. he was talking to manu earlier this week he on the one hand said, look like when some of the charges were dropped in georgia, like that's the way it is. >> and >> he's he's making the argument that if you're going to respect the judicial system, then you have to go all in on that. >> let's are a walking crime wave like donald trump you can trample every criminal civil, disciplinary, ethical boundary you want, and then you know that it's going to take time for the justice system to catch up with you. but that's in the nature of justice system based on due process. but we've got to stick by the rule of law. it's always god >> well, bright. you do have to stick by the rule of law and sometimes it's on your side and sometimes it isn't. and i think in these four cases, we might not hear any of them before the election. it is worked in donald trump's favor. because he wants to delay and destroy and do whatever. and now, in dc, you're waiting for supreme court ruling. and there's nothing you can do to skip over that, you have to you have to wait and our pulse and other people's polls show that the american public does want to get a resolution on at least one of these cases before they vogt they want to know if he's going to be convicted of any of these things and they now it looks like they may not know, by the way, of being a teflon don is not the it's not the best asset you're talking about cases and multiple juries because you could have the cumulative in fact, of jurors being aggravated that this person keeps getting away with it and they may say to themselves, well, not on my watch what his defense has to guard against that. yeah >> somebody who has prosecuted cases, maybe you've had that experience everybody stand by the white house is telling house speaker mike johnson to move on and to end his problem. parties impeachment inquiry against president biden, believe it or not >> they might do just that. >> and later, vice president harris is meeting at the white house today with rapper fat joe on the agenda what we're calling here on inside politics. >> eight >> green new deal. and by greene we 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this time, wasting time on this charade. cnn's annie grayer has been reporting the story for us and has some great new details. you can see her story that it's on cnn.com on the screen. and luckily she is here with us. annie yes >> dana, this is not how republicans thought there 15 month investigation would be going. they when they when they got the majority back in january investigating the president, his family was a huge focus, but after 15 months poring through over hundred thousand bank records, interviewing around 40 people, including the president's son, hunter and brother james. their business associates department of justice officials, irish whistleblowers, republicans haven't found any evidence of wrongdoing by the president and they don't have the votes to impeach. so the question is, how do you land this? it's plain house oversight. chair james comer wants to do criminal referrals to the department of justice, but the other stakeholders in the decision making process, namely speaker mike johnson and judiciary chair jim jordan, say more conversations need to be hard about that comer also wants to bring hunter back in for a public hearing, but republicans, some republican say hunter came in for his deposition last month. he sat for six plus hours, answered every question republicans had, and were surprised at how prepared he was and don't really know what more they can get from him in a public hearing just looking, taking a big step back here about how much this has an impact in plays into the 2024 presidential election. some republicans say, look, we tried, we investigated, we did as much as we could. let's wrap this up and focus on delivering four republican voters in november. then you have other republicans good lawmakers and sources who i talked to you and say, who say, let's drag this out as long as possible. there's no incentive to end this. and let's hurt try and hurt the president, joe biden politically and help donald trump as much as possible. so that's where we are six months in and not where republicans expected to be such great reporting. and just to keep with your plane illusion whether they're going to land the plane. something tells me they're going to just kind of quietly stay in a holding pattern and pretend like the plane's not up in the sky. thank you so much. any appreciate it. and president biden, isn't spending that much time focused on impeachment. instead, he is spending the past week at least on the campaign trail, hitting pennsylvania, georgia, new hampshire, wisconsin, and michigan. next week, he's going out west, stops in nevada and arizona. jeff is back with me, zolan kanno-youngs of the new york times is here too, and gloria is also still here. uh, jeff, i want to turn to some great reporting that you have that's on cnn.com right now to bring it alive for us here at the table about the fact that the president aims to prove he can still stump the old way as he, the last campaign kicks into high gear. what are you learning? >> i was struck just watching him stand in a campaign office in milwaukee. a. that such a departure from four years ago when he was essentially cloistered in his basement in delaware, there really weren't campaign offices, so it was just discovered co-founder because of covid exactly. and it was just happening four years ago like this week. i mean, of course they had to shut down their headquarters in philadelphia so just a reminder to me that yes, this is a rematch, but it's an entirely different race in every shape and form and the stumping, the old way, he was standing on a porch yesterday in saginaw talking to voters. so one thing that we saw really throughout the week that my colleague kevin liptak and i observed, was that yes, he's meeting people, small groups of people by design obviously, but this is all designed to do one thing to reassure democrats that he's got this and that he is back in the game. >> and that his >> campaign infrastructure is ready to go. there's been a lot of criticism. that is the campaign operating fast enough. that's what all this is about is to reassure democrats, they have a lot of work to do down the road on independence and perhaps some others over. but this first leg was to sort of get democrats back on board >> such great reporting. i want just just kinda help bolster that. i want our viewers to listen to part of focus groups specifically with wisconsin swing voters on how they feel when they watch joe biden >> i see president biden. i feel and trust concerned, embarrassed exhausted >> i'd say i'd feel hopeful hopeful about his policies. >> this is from our friend richard though, and i want you to just listen to one other bit of this of this focus group. and this is something as a mom that parents should strike everybody. it's with somebody who has a young child trying to watch the state of the union watched all or some of president biden's, state of the union address last week show with fingers it was on the whole thing, but i also had a seven-year-old that kept coming in >> interrupting me, so i didn't really catch all the parts of it, but it was on i mean, it says it all it does. it doesn't >> the comments there could almost be divided into almost like two categories in a way when it comes to the criticism against and the concerns about about president biden, the campaign, one being sort of the performance is he up to this that you could factor in the concerns around his age and that as well and then the second one i heard also there a voter mentioned his policies and how you're feeling about his policies and what this trip coming up. i think you can watch both of those things is he able to not only have the sort of performance that we saw at the state of the union, but also develop a sort of consistent and a consistent way to describe all of these different bills that have passed and his policies in a way that's digestible to voters now that we're in basically the general has to show some vitality. >> and that is, that is what he showed during the state of the union. and i think that's the purpose of putting him with smaller groups, which is very good with his good at town halls for example, and he he can be really energetic and i think that's important. and since this is going to be a choice election, donald trump is doing, which is being in a courtroom, a lot of the time, but he's doing these huge rallies. yeah. he's not doing q and a's with people who come to see him. so it's a completely different strategy. i just want to show our viewers something that really speaks to what you're talking about, about joe biden in smaller settings. this is the president with a young boy named harry talking to him about harry's stutter >> i have a style just like, i did too, but don't let anybody tell you that your king can't do anything. is people were be like this president making >> remember >> he is i know what. you're doing >> i mean, wow, obviously he was referring to for anybody who didn't see was referring to donald trump, who in a speech recently made fun of joe biden stuck >> and this happened during the last campaign as well, where he connected with a young person with a stutter. and by the way, he doesn't just do this on camera he does this a lot and he still struggles with it as we all know from watching him particularly as the day gets later and later. and it's something he has to work with every speech he gives. he's gotta kinda map it out. and now, a lot of people don't know he had it and it's something he didn't really talk much about at all until the campaign. last time. and i'm thinking back to that boy, i think he was from new hampshire. yes. >> he saw him during the primary and they develop this connection and then they ended up playing that video during the convention, but it brought chills to me this young boy talking to the president, i grew up with the stator as well. and this is something that is very challenging. and i think the president talking about that's interesting, but that was another part of the relief of the state of the union among some to supporters i was at a watch party in detroit and they were all biden fans. and i'm a woman express for six years, so relieved that he did well. the performance aspect of it, but that is a very telling a video that biden campaign obviously put out. yeah. no question. i want you to jump in on all things. biden, but you're going to want to talk about the next segment. because it's high interest there's a high interest gathering at the white house, a famous rapper, and the vice president of the united states in a joint meeting on legalizing marijuana mike drop >> sunday on the whole story, two men missing our lives, just both. i do one deputy, he was the last person to see them alive and a decades-long search for the truth, the whole story anderson cooper, sunday at eight on cnn >> no way. >> why would i use kayak to compare hundreds of travel sites at 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yes. yes. yes. i mean, look, this is important criminal justice one, it's interesting that the vice president is leaving this roundtable just for her role as well. let's remember the the policy in her approach to marijuana and sort of we're form over drug reform that gave her a lot of grief during the last presidential campaigns. so it's interesting to see the ark here of her now leaving this roundtable i have reported on the administration's sort of approach to drug or form present biden even during the campaign really put an emphasis on non-violent drug crimes. they have issued pardons when it comes to this. but remember, mostly for federal crimes which they only have leeway over, that only impacts a sliver of those who have actually committed prior offenses for this. so it'll be interesting to see if this is mostly an issue that is meant to galvanize a younger base of voters. and it's mostly politics. or if we actually see a policy, the president said in state of the union, they were going to look at it and also says publicly that nobody should be arrested for possession periods. so he's sort of come out and let let's actually listen to that. >> if >> you don't mind, this is the president talking to a young man holding aside, saying legalized pot i'm take care of that. no one's going to be no one should be jail for its use, even possessing marijuana and staying on the record >> and this is jeff is reminding us that was at his own campaign headquarters and milwaukee, right? >> i think he's made up his mind on this and i think one of the reasons that kamala harris is leading the way on anything that has to do with drugs is because i think the bidens are very sensitive about that given hunters problems. and so maybe that extends its shifted onto her play but go ahead, dan interesting again, just because yes, what's sensitive for her two and the last presidential campaign i did reporting where i talked to >> people that worked with her when she was in a g when she was or da this was one of the points of criticism that a lot of people in regressors >> but it was in fairness, it was a very different time. and we have we have the receipts as they say, to show it. look at the polling. first of all, let's just look at the support now among 18 to 34 year olds. i mean, it's off the charts, 79%, 35 to 54, not that far behind 71, 55 plus is 64%. that's more than six in ten americans, almost two thirds. and just let's look to your point about the way kamala harris viewed this. it's not just her 2023 last year, a support for marijuana legalization, 70% 2003. it was only 34%, 99 in 23%, and then 1969, 12%. the dramatic >> change we've seen a lot of state-level changes on this as well. there have been referendums in red states and blue states where it is passed. so this certainly is something that public sentiment is behind the biden campaign is hoping that this is one of the things that sort of fires up younger voters. in the absence of get there, in the absence of some enthusiasm challenges, frankly, because of foreign policy in other matters. but as owners saying this is a serious issue, a serious drug reform issue and sentencing issue as well. and there is a big federal review underway that we were just talking about that and you think that there's not a chance that it's more november, we'll see. >> i mean, i just the timing of it is hard to predict, but you basically have hhs viewing the classification of marijuana right now. it's on the same level as heroin right now, which the president has come out and criticized. but again, you need the dea involvement there too. there's tension there. yeah. obviously, we're making jokes about this, but you make such an important point. this is very serious when it comes to the justice system and the inequities there. thank you, guys so much ahead. could senator joe manchin change his mind and run for real? election in the us senate. we've got some new exclusive reporting on that next >> there 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