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If you ever, ms an episode of lead, you can listen to the show once you get your podcasts, the news continues on cnn cso happening now, two major breaking developments of Donald Trumps legal cases the federal judge overseeing is classified documents, trial, denying one of his motions to throw out the indictment. Were standing by for a ruling on the former president s remaining effort to toss the charges also, breaking trouble appears to be on track to score another delay in court this time in new york, manhattan prosecutors theyre not opposed to pushing back. Is Hush Money Trial potentially until late april. And theres news out there on the Campaign Trail to President Biden making another stop on his tour of battlegrounds states as Vice President harris baza, historic visit to an abortion provider, becoming the highest ranking us official to do so welcome to our viewers here in the United States and around the world. Im wolf blitzer a year in the Situation Room the skis, cnn Breaking News, lets get to the Breaking News of federal courts slaps down one of Donald Trumps attempts to dismiss his classified documents case judge aileen cannon rejecting trumps argument that the charges were unconstitutionally vague. Lets get straight to our chief legal well affairs correspondent, Paula Reid Follow what is the judge saying about what you heard today . So wolf trumps lawyers have made multiple different arguments to try to get the classified documents case dismissed and judge, aileen cannon spent most of today hearing some of those arguments, but shortly after that hearing wrapped, she dismissed one of them outright and that was those argument that the Espionage Charges that the Espionage Act is so vague that trump wouldnt have known that he was doing anything wrong. In fact during the hearing, she signal that she wasnt buying that argument when she said it would be, quote, extraordinary to throw out this entire case based on that argument but wolf, were still waiting for her to weigh in on some of these other challenges that theyve posed. Theyve also argued that trump had a right to keep these documents that he believed that they were his personal records, but the Special Counsel pointed out that trump is on tape. He is. Theres a recording into this case where he acknowledges he knows these are secrets and they couldnt declassify them once he left the white house. Lets take a listen just totally wins my case, you know, except it is highly secretive since president i couldnt eat like now i cant get up, but this is judge cannon also seem skeptical of this argument saying, quote, its difficult to see how this gets you to the dismissal of an indictment. But the biggest decision were waiting on her to make wolf is when this case well go its currently penciled in for may, but two weeks ago, she held a hearing about pushing it back. Its unclear how far back in that as you can see increasingly complicated and convoluted calendar, she will push it back, though i was down there in florida two weeks ago and it sounded like august would be the earliest, but right now, all eyes on judge cannon to see where she puts her case and incredibly critical prosecution on that calendar. The point at paula, is it looking like trumps Hush Money Trial . Will be delayed . It seems likely because we have consensus between the prosecution and the defense that this can be delayed. The question is, for how long and thatll be up to the judge. Well, this case was supposed to start in just two weeks on march 20. This was the only case that is really has a date on the calendar and that most people were confident was going to go forward thats the first criminal prosecution of the former president. But this delay is based on the fact that both sides now need to go through Tens Of Thousands of pages of discovery. So this is evidenced that was just turned over by federal prosecutors. So the trump team is asking for a 90 day delay. Prosecutors have said they wont object to a 30 day delay, but now all eyes on the judge to see how far back heel push this. Paula reid reporting for us. Thank you very much, paula, are political and legal experts are here with us in the Situation Room for analysis. And laura, let me start with you. Do you expect judge cannon will dismiss the Second Trump Motion to try to dismiss as well i dont think that there is these support to do so. I think shes cautious in that area, but having the extraordinary measures to do so, imagine talking about the Vagueness Aspect of it. On the one hand, it would be extraordinary for a judge at this particular level to say a lot is so vague as not to be able to apply to criminal allegations on the second part of it in terms of whether President Trump is pointing to argue that these were his own personal documents. He had every right to take them and keep them and maintain them and doubled down 10,000 times about about that. That would really undermine the president ial records act. And a very real way, i think shes uncomfortable with doing so because its this point in time, is a contentious issue. Its not wellsettled law for good reason. We dont have many president s who have argued this very point for over periods of time. So i think her shed be prudent to be cautious about dismissing on these grounds. And then instead turn to a Jury Instruction on some aspects. We follow up with you, elliot cost trumps legal team, as you know, has argued that he had the right to declare these highly classified documents its personal documents and bring them along, bring them home with them. Whats the significance of that . Wolff that argument has been widely debunked by virtually every serious individuals. It was looked at this matter. Its the simple fact is and this is picking up on lauras point. Theres a president ial records act that governs how president s can hand handle items that come out of the white house. It is a simple fact. It is not for donald trump to decide individually on his own what foot fits under that and so on. Now, if there are individual documents with with with what she might take issue with how theyre characterized. Theres a process for going through that and you can raise that with the National Records administration or even in court if hes so wishes. But its no president in American History has simply been able to wave a magic wand and say, all of these things are mine. These are exempt from the president ial records act. This goes back to however many decades as applied to brock obama, bill clinton, george w bush, and its going to apply to down drop in o2 in court. Yeah, i suspect personally, right. Alyssa, what message is trump trying to send by appearing in person today when he didnt necessarily have to. Well, for one, it shows us priorities. Listen his his legal woes when he should be on the Campaign Trail, but hes also doing it. Theres its the silent bully pulpit of the former presidency. Hes, hes there air so that the judge was one that appointed him sees this is a man who is powerful, who could be very powerful again, and i think its hoping that it could prejudice the outcome. Listen, we dont know much about this is not a highly experienced judge, especially in cases related to National Security matters. But what i can tell you as when this case was brought, it was a one trump world was most afraid of. Now if known it wasnt going to go before the election. But if you were to not win the presidency, this is something where theres actually quite a bit of case law of classified documents being mishandled. The facts of the case are incredibly damning. So he does care a lot about it. Its just not front and center and the political way that january 6, he worries could impact the election if it were to happen before he but hes very, very worried about the legal exposure war. He did not win the presidency. Let me get a lengthy the way in as well on that political point, what kind of political impact and lindsay, do you think this is going to have assuming this trial goes starts this year will sign. I think donald trump won. He loves these delays because in the short term, it fouls up its base and lets them believe that they are an inside job against donald trump. But the closer that we get to election day and the closer that we have these trials to election day, whether or not theres a conviction. I think voters will go into the ballot box with that at top of mind, we also have polling that shows in any of the cases if hes convicted, that will well shifts some Republican Voters from him. So trump is trying to delay because he knows those things are not in his favor politically. However, in the short term, i do think it helps them just a little bit. But again, were looking at closer to election day and seeing that contrast of your president ial candidate going on trial, thats actually not going to help him just like your rid of that as well. Laura, lets turn to the new york Hush Money Case right now. Why are these records only being produced now potentially only a few weeks before the trial . Thats the Million Dollar question at this point in time. Discovery is so important when you are the prosecuting body, you have an opportunity and an obligation to provide any information thatd be helpful to the formation of defense because documents could include exculpatory information, meaning it could clear the person and tend to show that they are innocent of a crime, give them valuable insight and witnesses give them valuable insight into shortcomings and your own prosecutions evidenced but if you fail to provide that information, then youve given the other side ammunition to suggest theres something to hide. And so you are really over inclusive and indulgent and trying to write h and everything that seems to be the core of this particular moment discovering that there were documents it needed to be turned over. They have done so. They had been proactive in saying, we are open to having an extension for you to review the material, even without recognizing and maybe there is exculpatory information there and it could be inculpatory. Thats problematic for trump and council. It is prudent to do this, but it is really concerning that at this a bit attempt hour i thought the 11,000 the tenth and a halfhour. This is happening. And i think it gives fuel to the fire that this is im going to be a feather in the cap of the defense. And moreover, this matter is going to be delayed whenever the prosecution and defense are largely an agreement about the need to delay a proceeding. Its going to happen now, i think the defense had asked for 90 days and the prosecution is now asking for thursday, but it would be remarkable for the judges say now what folks im sorry, i disagree. You have to go to trial right now. Its not happening. So it might gum up the calendar a little bit with respect to all of these various proceedings of are coming up. But this one matter that was going to be the one to go to trial first is not happening within the next month illicit away in on the politics of this alyssa is delaying this case and pushing it further into the campaign season. Actually beneficial to trump. Well, the reality is as Republican Voters simply dont care about this Hush Money Case. They see it as opaque as dating back to 2016 is something that just doesnt really have a major impact on the decision theyre going to make in november, whereas january 6 does. But this Delay Elliott and lower could speak to this better than me. It could run into contrast with the january 6 case, this calendar gets very complicated. And if for any reason this being delayed would mean that the january 6 trial would have to be delayed. That would be very helpful to donald trump because the last thing he wants as a verdict in the january 6 trial before election day . Lindsey, i should democrats b. And all concerned if this is the only case against trump that goes to trial this year before the election. Lets say, i think i actually agree with alyssa here on the fact that the january 6 case is the one that most people are paying attention to however, i do believe that regardless of which case it is that happens before election day democrats still well have an ability to paint a picture and to show a contrast because these cases do rally up our base, they do continue to show the Existential Crisis that donald trump would be should he have a second term. So ideally we will love this january 6 case to get to trial before election day. But even if its just this one, i do think democrats will have a way to spin it around and make im sure that it works in our favor covering a lot of legal issues and political issues going into this election season. Our guys thank you very, very much. 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