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CNNW Inside July 4, 2024

Today on inside politics, two roads diverge on a Campaign Trail. One nominee is talking to voters in a mustwin and swingstate, while the other is choosing to be inside a courtroom in a mustwin criminal case. Well, Donald Trumps Courtroom Strategy Work in a general election good did in the primary. Plus an obstacle to peace. Thats how Chuck Schumer is describing israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the highest ranking elected jewish officials so official in us history is calling for new elections in israel, while also decrying that rebranding of Hamas Terrorists and tiktok they need us owner and fast trumps former Treasury Secretary, Steve Mnuchin says, if Congress Forces its chinese owner to sell, he wants in, im dana the bash. Lets go behind the headlines and inside politics first step, donald im trump is inside a florida courtroom as we speak for a hearing on his classified documents case. And joe biden is heading from one Battleground State to another, trying to kill his coalition intact, the one that helped him win the white house four years ago. Yesterday, the president spoke to voters in wisconsin today hes in michigan next week. Hell hit arizona and nevada. Cnns jeff zeleny is in milwaukee, where President Biden is about to take off and head to the state next door, jeff well, dana as President Biden, sets to leave wisconsin on this windy morning here, he clearly is about completing his first lap of these critical Battleground States in the week after the state of the Union Address, hell be heading to nevada and arizona, the western part of the battleground next week. And then if finishing his Battleground Tour in North Carolina at the end of the month with Vice President harris. But there is no doubt the travel that we have seen over the last several days is a travel hell be taking over for the next several months leading into november. But look where hes going. Hes going to saginaw michigan this afternoon for an event there. If you look at saginaw, michigan one of 25 counties in america, only 25. That over the last four election campaigns, voted for president obama. President obama President Trump and President Biden. So this is a bellwether county inside a bellwether state. If you look at the margins, there. So interesting because the margins in Saginaw County effectively represent the margins overall in the state four years ago, President Biden won this county by 303 votes. So that is why he is going there too. Campaigns. So we will see as you pointed out, this strategy of these two president ial candidates, so different donald trump in a courtroom, he does not have to be in President Biden on account Campaign Trail. He desperately needs to be on to make his case to democrats first and foremost, to come back into the fold that hes up to the task here, and then to pivot. But dana, one interesting thing president did before leaving a milwaukee, he spoke to a Radio Station here largely a black Radio Station targeting African American voters in an audience. And he said this, he said the guy im running against hurts black people every chance he gets not much context in that remark, but certainly interesting in this sense that, that also speaks to President Biden strategy, trying to really rebuild that coalition that brought him into the white house that he so desperately needs. Now, therell be leaving here in a short period of time going to michigan later back to the white house this evening. But we do now know that this battleground is set its up to the voters now to decide over the next several months how they listened to all thank you so much, jeff, for a very from a very windy wisconsin, those stats about Saginaw County in michigan are so fascinating. Im so glad that you brought that to our attention. Thank you. And i want to now turn to cnns kristen holmes, who covers the trump campaign. Kristen, this is the first time that the former president is in court since he effectively clinched the nomination and dana, just as jeff said, he doesnt have to be there. He could be on the Campaign Trail just like President Joe Biden is. And i thought was so striking and obvious this is clear, but looking at the map of where joe biden is going and has been those again, are the same states that Donald Trumps team has said are absolutely critical, but he hasnt been to many of them. Now. He said has chosen to be in this courtroom is behind closed doors. This is not one of your traditional donald trump using the courtroom as it Campaign Trail stop because were not going to see the former president today. He is not going to give her any remarks. Hes not going to come out. Hes not going to go to any microphones at a camera because there just arent any inside of that courthouse. Instead, we are told that he wants to be there. He wants to participate in his own defense, and he wants to signal to the judge that he wants to participate. In his own defense, whether or not do that works as a tactic. It is. Were told he wants to be doing the other part of this and its expected to start at the end of the month for that new york hush money case. He is expected to be in trial when it actually starts every single day because this is a criminal case, Donald Trumps team is planning for that. They are planning for how to build a Campaign Around this trial, meaning wednesdays when theyre not in court, saturdays and theyre not in court. Those are the days that he could be on the Campaign Trail. Donald trump himself has said he wants to be in court in the morning and then be on the Campaign Trail in the evening. If you talk to his advisers, they acknowledge that that seems highly unlikely, but they are trying to juggle this because again, up until now, up until the end of the month, he will chosen to be in court these various times, not been forced just to be in court. So interesting. Thank you so much, kristen, appreciate that. To discuss all of this and more. Lets talk to our great Political Panel here. Cnns lauren fox the washington posts tyler pager, and cnns eva mckend. This is your maiden appearance here. Thank you for coming on. Lets start with you about this juxtaposition that were seeing today between the two candidates. Biden and trump and i know you do a lot of reporting inside the biden world about how they view the way that they can try to use this as an advantage, not just the fact that he has the ability to go out and talk to voters, but more tonally, yeah, this is the exact split screen, the Biden Campaign has been waiting for for months. They are now both the presumptive nominees, trump and biden. Biden is on the Campaign Trail talking to voters, talking about his agenda. And as christine just outlined, trump is in a courtroom in florida, nowhere to be seen. And this is not just about as you said, the physical location of where they are, but using this as a message to drive home to voters that biden is not someone thats facing many he criminal indictments, someone that is going to be in court. Many times over the next several months, but can go out and do things and achieve things for the american people. And i think thats the message that they want to see the president honein on as well. How much he talks about trump i think is the big question, right . Some of these cases are being charged by bidens own Justice Department that creates an awkward attention here where biden doesnt want to get too involved in those cases and try to stay away and show that the Justice Department is doing this independently from him. But its still the reality that trump is facing many criminal indictments. That while biden is out on the Campaign Trail very true. And where we go with the campaign right now, its nice to take a peek to see where we are. Fox did a poll in a few states over the last few weeks. And what they found. And well put it up pennsylvania and arizona, two critical swing states. Its basically static. We havent seen a major move whether its from the president s state of the Union Address or any of these other things that were talking about. So thats the sort of baseline and its similar not only nationally, which matters less now than the Battle Ground states, but also other Battleground States as well. It is. But now, obviously its very, very different because the choices is clear. So i think maybe in the weeks ahead well see those numbers shift a little bit. Another interesting point from that poll was how important to voters being mentally sound and honest and trustworthy yar, those were sort of their top concerns and where honest and trustworthy biden got harm, highmark, trump got higher marks when it came to being mentally sound. And so this aggressive schedule, the next couple of weeks, it really gives the biden team an opportunity to insulate themselves from some of these arguments about his age even if he stumbles at certain points its retail politics still works. And so if hes crisscrossing the country talking to voters about the issues that matter. Is that kind of puts a hole in this sort of obsession about the age narrative. Speaking of age, this is going to be an interesting transition. There are about to make. Lets talk about Social Security and medicare because this has been a very great hot topic in the last 24 hours or so between these two candidates, very, very important. It always is. But listen first to what President Biden said about donald trump on Social Security just this week donald trump said, cuts to Social Security, medicare on the table when asked if he changed his position, he said, quote, theres a lot we can do in terms of cutting. I wont cut Social Security. I will not cut medicare. He of cutting Social Security and medicare to give tax greg to the super wealthy. Im going to protect his transit Social Security, medicare to make the wealthy began to pay their fair share lets look at what the president is referring to. Donald trump was on cnbc on monday. Listen to what he said there so first of all, there is a lot you can do in terms of entitlements, in terms of cutting and in terms of also the theft and the bad management of entitlements then a couple of days later, he yesterday, he tried to clean it up. Lauren, he said to breitbart, i will never do anything that will jeopardize or hurt Social Security or medicare. We have to do it elsewhere, but were not going to do anything to hurt them this is the issue that Congressional Republicans, people who are running down ballot do not want donald trump to touch with a tenfoot pole. This is an issue that turns voters out. This is an issue that scares older voters. This is an issue that matters in the election and that is why joe biden is so happy to talk about it on the Campaign Trail. So happy to point it out in State Of The Union speeches, which he has done over the course of the last two years, because he does want to drive home, a difference between them on this issue and its why you see trump trying to clean it up. It can be true that a lot can be done to redo, to rethink how we deal with Social Security and medicare this country, and how we tried to drive down the countrys debt. That is a conversation that republicans candidly would be happy to have. Perhaps not in a campaign here. Well, they can haley sort of tried to go there a little bit and its dangerous, didnt get didnt get that wasnt the reason why i didnt get far, but it was interesting to say, what do you hear . Sorry from your sources, im sure again, the Biden Campaign is like you want to talk about cutting Social Security bringing on, they have enjoyed this opportunity since the last State Of The Union in 2023 when bidens offscript serve sparred with republicans in the House Chamber and got them in his view to agree to not cut Social Security and that was something that a lot of allies and aides or the president were like, look, biden is sharp, biden is able to tussle with republicans and they were really excited about that. We saw him try to do that again in this State Of The Union, trying to draw out Marjorie Taylor greene and other republicans trying to show that he has that fight in him. And so this is an opportunity that they would love to talk about. Obviously, people that benefit from Social Security 30 and other benefits are the ones that are more reliable voters. Theyre the ones that are turning out to the polls and that is the reason why as lauren just said, Congressional Republicans are really worried about another block of voters that democrats have been hoping turnout for them are women, female voters, particularly suburban female voters. And to kind of help that along, if you will, the Vice President is making a pretty historic trip. Shes going to go Visit A Planned Parenthood Clinic today. This makes a lot of sense to put this issue front and center we saw during the midterms where democrats defied expectations and you even saw some voters who historically supported republicans because this, this conversation, this was became about liberty, became about our choice because it was so existential. They voted for some of these moderate democrats. So im interested to see where they go with this. I know that theyre making this a number one issue. Theyre even competing in North Carolina this cycle and a real way, which is really interesting democrats have historically suffered a lot of heartbreak when theyve tried to compete in that state, but they think that they have i think a better chance this cycle because of issues like abortion yeah. I mean, this is also an issue that has become really dominant on the haeil when you talk mike johnson just this morning was pressed on whether or not there should be National Legislation to protect ivf and his argument is that this is the state issue and that he supports ivf. You think that should be done in an ethical way. Obviously, there are questions about what you mean by the for ethical way but this is becoming not just about the issue of abortion, but now democrats are seizing more broadly on just reproductive care at large. And i think that that message, even if you might feel one way about abortion, if youre a voter, you may feel differently about ivf, which is why democrats are trying to make this a larger conversation. One of the things i just think is fascinating about this is that its Kamala Harris that is going to this clinic, joe biden, a devout catholic, has longbeen uncomfortable with the issue of abortion. It is not even a word he said in his state of the Union Address, took him awhile as president. There was a Running Clock of how long it would take him to say the word abortion. Obviously, Kamala Harris has seized on this issue, made it a priority for herself, but its issue that has been so successful for democrats electorally, the president has not been out front as the champion of issue because of his own deeply held beliefs about it. Yeah. And she has certainly taken on this mantle and taken it on very willingly. Standby guys, because up next well talk about Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer, who just called for new elections and israel saying its time for Prime Minister netanyahu though what schumer said in his lengthy and nuanced Senate Floor Speech and why the gop leader responded, calling it grotesqu

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