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it's all day and into the night. it's all the things that keep this world turning. the go-tos that keep us going. the places we cheer. and check in. they all choose the advanced network solutions and round the clock partnership from comcast business. see why comcast business powers more small businesses than anyone else. get started for $49.99 a month plus ask how to get up to an $800 prepaid card. don't wait- call today. >> find your >> one for better >> cnn news central. today at 70 it's thursday, march 14, right now on cnn this morning, the campaign in the >> courts on this unprecedented collision course today, donald trump fights criminal charges while president biden glad-hands with voters plus a symbolic first today, just hours from now, kamala harris becomes the first sitting vice president or president to tour an abortion clinic. and cuba's notorious guantanamo bay back in the news, the biden ministration could send some migrants fleeing gangs in haiti. >> there all right. >> 06:00 a.m. here in washington. a live look at capitol hill. >> morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt. wonderful to have you with us. >> we've got one nominee on the >> campaign trail and the other in a courtroom welcome to your 2024 splits green president biden is in michigan today working to reinforce his must-win blue wall in the midwest. and he's doing it the old-fashioned way >> think about this campaign is particularly here and my walk us specifically, but wisconsin generally and several other states, it's going to get down to knocking on doors no fashioned way. no really is and it gets down to just make contact with people. >> donald trump not doing it that way. you can't work a crowd when you're sitting in a courtroom. and that's where trump is expected to be today. he and his legal team trying to convince a florida judge to throw out his classified documents case they plan to argue that the former president had the right to legally take any document he wanted just to reminder trump employee number five, brian butler did tell cnn this week that he remembers moving boxes with classified material as part of this alleged cover up at mar-a-lago you noticed that he had thought they were the boxes that were in the indictment, the white bankers boxes. that's what i remember loading. >> and did you have any time any idea at the time that there was potentially us national security secrets in his boxing? >> no clue. no. >> i had no >> all right. let's break it all down. republican strategist sarah longwell joins us, former obama white house staffer ashley allison is here and molly ball, she is senior political correspondent for the wall street journal welcome. this >> is the kind of day i think we're going to be having a lot of these kinds of days. although i guess if donald trump has anything to say about it he's going to delay these cases long enough that we never actually see any of them really go to trial. sarah longwell, the big question that i have today is that we are firmly now in general election mode, right? with two presumptive nominees. this is not the primary campaign. do you think that this is something that is effective for trump? in a general election to show up these trials when he doesn't have to. it clearly worked for him in the primary, but those work man now yeah. >> the thing to understand about the voters is there's a large gap between what republican primary voters want and what general election swing voters will tolerate or interested in. so trump living in a courtroom is not attractive. just sort of general election swing voters, they want him talking about immigration and the economy and the visuals of him just sitting in courtroom after courtroom are not going to work well for him and the other thing about the voters on the legal stuff is that so far he is like white noise to the voters. trump has this magical ability when he does something wrong, he goes all in, right? so there's 91 indictments and voters can't tell them part and so as the cases get underway and, the whole country starts to tune in to each individual case. i think people are going to start having more opinions about each individual case. and this one in particular, the documents case. what it highlights, see right now, people are sort of like will pence mishandled documents, biden mishandled dock humans. but this time it'll allow people to understand. yeah, but trump was told to give them back and refused. trump engaged in a coverup to keep them from going back. and so as those things he showed them around to other foreign officials. that's the kind of stuff that will start to seep in with voters during the general election. >> you think so? >> perhaps the independent night, the base, the base is like where they are and i think the question is, the megaphones around him. so trump will push this narrative. and honestly today, most of the congressman, the senators, the folks who are also running on the ballot this election cycle have fallen in line and push the narrative. and so the question i have is that will they continue or for people who are in some of these highly contested purple districts, this cycle, particularly in the house, they can't totally align themselves with donald trump right now in the general election. do they just try and ignore it? do they pivot? do they say, well, you know, for independent voters voters who are saying, who have some questions, how are they going to handle it today? we haven't seen there be a crack in the wall right now. or the trump narrative, but i am interested in some of these more vulnerable districts. what happens? >> molly ball, what's your sense politically speaking to sarah's point about how it's kinda all muddled together right now, if we start to get any separation on these cases, which one may matter the most? i mean, i've had some strategists say that this documents one might actually be the thing that could damage him the most because it's in some ways the easiest to understand, but i'm curious what your reporting is >> well, i think the timeline matters and the fact that we think that the new york one is going to go on trial first is going to sort of set the set, the tone, set the stage, and most people do view that as the weakest of the cases and that could substantially muddy the waters. i do think that most people do see the 91 as this undifferentiated mass and it will be hard to break through particularly with the proceedings that are not televised. they will not all be televised. by some of them will some of them won't. >> do people have any appetite for this, right? i think a lot of people just feel sick of it and don't want to hear about any of it. but we do hear the biden campaign already starting to make this case in their first general election ads, that what this is about is trump's self-interest, that they're saying that you have president who's fighting for you, and then you have this former president who is preoccupied with his own issues, his own victimhood, and that's the narrative they're going to continue to push. and i think that has the virtue of not needing people to differentiate and pick apart all the differential, all the different aspects of all of these cases saying well, this one's about an adult film star this one about national security. this one's about january 6, because i think there is a weariness with just the sheer volume of this stuff. so by making this overriding argument, i think the biden campaign hopes that that people can see this all as one thing and about an all as about trump and his preoccupation so speaking of the way people view things, ed lewis has this column in the financial times today. and the headline is democracy dies in trumpian boredom. and he writes, quote, his untruths, merit, a shrug. everyone else's qualify as a scandal. this dual standard is to a large extent subconscious in 2018, trump's then chief strategist, steve bannon, described as media tactics as flooding the zone with s h, t. >> the >> more bizarreness trump generates, the less people. notice >> sara >> this seems pretty on point to me. people that are running against to trump. i mean, how do you fight back against that >> look, i think first of all, i think that's 100% right? the psychology of people are just not built to take this and look one of the main tactics of autocrats and authoritarians is to exhaust pete mall, right? that's what they want you to be. they want you to be too exhausted to fight back. they want you to be too exhausted to parse through all the noise to figure out what's going on and so you break through by not getting exhausted, right? like this is the time for joe biden and his campaign to roll out 1,000 surrogates to go on offense against donald trump and say, you do not want this guy and i agree with molly, you don't have to talk about each individual case you've to say this guy's running for president to stay out of jail. he's got half 1 billion plus in legal fees that he's going to raise from you. those are the kinds of things you do to sort of pain and overall picture, there's a reason that roughly 30% of republicans say that if trump's convicted of a crime, they won't vote for him. now that number is too high, but it demonstrates that there are people well who are saying, yeah, look, get back to me when there's a verdict on something and if he is guilty like that matters to me >> yeah. >> but ashley at loose goes on to write, no matter what approach americans media takes to trump controversy is assured, ignoring what he says is negligence, running his speeches live as an in-kind subsidy. okay. we can debate that the same applies to he said she said traditional reporting, fact checking is for losers. >> i mean, clearly democrats have a lot of opinions about how the media should or shouldn't cover donald trump. the bottom line seems to be that the bannon strategy seems to have worked for him for awhile. and what is the right answer in this environment? >> well into an addition to what sara was saying about what autocrats and dictators try and do with exhaustion. they also then trying to undermine the institutions that can potentially bring you back and say, wait a minute, we have like the fact checkers, right? and then they discredit and trump has been doing that naming the media, all these different things in his first term you cannot run away from the truth if you want to hold donald trump accountable. and i think you have to acknowledge that there are, there's a component of the republican party that i was just always going to be with trump. but i don't know if it's enough if you do all the things like fact-check, like hold him accountable by the press. people, even in their party. not a lot, but those who want to, the independent voters, the republicans who are never trumpers, if you, there are more of them in this country than there are the base that want to buy into allowing more people to be confused and exhausted by the narrative and to steve bannon's. and so i think if you seed and you just say like, how that strategy is working, and let's pivot and said, and let's just pay only attention. then it kinda gets away with it. he kind of win so we can't allow his nonsense just two operate with free re, because that's his goal when i think the big challenge is that it takes an electorate that's not exhausted to your point to actually take in whatever is going on. i mean, i was sort of laughing over a new yorker cartoon that had a guy on a couch or the blanket over his head and the caption as you want me to take that off after the election, write it like speaks to something that's going on here. but at this same time, this is arguably the most consequential election we face, certainly in the modern era. all right, our panel is gonna come back. we got so much more to talk about coming up here. another scare in the air, a student pilot accused of rushing the cockpit in the middle of a flight, plus save the date hunter biden just learned he could face back-to-back trials and escaping haiti. why guantanamo bay could house haitian migrants if there is a mass exodus >> we're here to get your side of the store. >> why do we keep ending up here? 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>> okay. so that's for the judge to decide. donald trump in this case, right now is making a ton of arguments to try and get this case he does not want to go to trial and he wants the judge to toss it today is the first a very likely a series of hearings where he's going to be making those arguments through his life lawyers, and they're going to make be making the argument that he had a lot of power as president to determine what records are his and yes he took the national security documents out of the white house at the end of his presidency. and thus, their his, because he says they're his they're personal papers. now, the justice department, they have been very clear the national archives has been very clear for the entirety of this investigation. this base, and since trump left the white house, that that's not how it works, that these are presidential records, that there are rules and laws around how they can be handled because it can jeopardize national security if there aren't parameters about what documents are the public's, the united states government's documents versus what are personal papers of the presidency were they're all of that in court today and be listening very closely to see what judge aileen cannon does >> this >> is not a day where she's likely to make a ruling on what to do here. she's going it'd be listening to arguments, but trump is going to be in the courtroom, which always can change the tenor of how things go. because he will be sitting there in front of the job as the criminal defendant in this case, on top othat, we still are waiting for a bunch of other things. kasie, in this case here in florida, when is it going to trial? that is still up in the air. we're waiting to see if judge aileen cannon says anything about that today as well. kasie. >> yeah. the delay strategy on full display i am, but that dynamic that you point out about having trump sitting in the front row, very interested to talk to you about it tomorrow once we kind of get it glimpse here, kaitlan, poland's thank you. i really appreciate it. our panel is back with us. we spent a lot of time talking about this delay already today. i want to sort of expand our conversation in terms of two key issues that are going to drive this race. this presidential race are both on display today. immigration and abortion rights also. but let's start ashley with the immigration headlines that are priscilla alvarez talked about earlier in the show, the biden administration considering using guantanamo bay as a processing center for haitian migrants. if there's a crisis because of the domestic political instability that's going on there it's clearly pretty remarkable i mean, when people hear onetime obey, that's going to kind of set off certain things in their minds, right? that the administration thinks that it's more worthwhile to do that than to potentially process these migrants on us soil. what are the dynamics here >> well, first i would just say i think it's heartbreaking what we see is going on in haiti has been so much, there's such a resilient people and i am longing for the day when we can get past this too much less time for the country and get to a place where these folks can really find stability, democracy, and thrive for our take though on the political side, i mean, when i think gitmo or guantanamo bay, i have the worst images in my mind and we all do. yeah. >> and i don't know what it's like. i don't know we only know what >> the stories we've been told and i do wonder how some voters will take this in, particularly black voters when they think about what, what do the haitian people deserve? and so i think if there's an important story be told it we're doing this because we want them to have a better than the alternative they have right now. and the conditions that they're going to be kept in if they stay in guns, guantanamo are going to be comfortable, are going to be something that you may end. >> you may not even just humane, but like comfortable, right? like because prison can have like humanity, but did not be comfortable. and so these folks are fleeing persecution. and so the contrast of what the republicans i think are doing with saying, why are migrants being treated with manatee here on us soil and some urban areas like new york and being given placed in affordable housing. with the contrast of patient immigrants go get my could could prove to be a story that is challenging for the biden administration. the answer, but again, then i think we were talking about this earlier. is that like i think you then say we are trying to do some we're trying to help these folks they are playing, these folks are literally fleeing persecution in haiti >> and >> you won't do anything, meaning republicans to help them, you stall the bill, right >> sara, i mean, does this speak to just how much of a problem immigration is for the biden administration that they're willing to put these headlines out there, like suffer through these headlines yeah i mean, there's just no bigger vulnerability. and frankly, there's no bigger asset for donald trump. i mean, he became a towering political figure on the back of the idea that building a wall was the right way to keep immigrants out and people responded well to that. and there's just look, anything that happens, the situation in georgia with the murder that became a big issue at the state of the union. and so i do think the biden administration has always had a problem with communicating effectively about things. and i think that the american people, when i listened to voters talk about immigration, they want to be humane hey, are not trying to be inhumane, but they always say things like, i want people to come the right way and what they mean is we want to know who's in the country. we want to have a real way that is legal, that we're processing people. and i do think joe biden's got to get out there on this issue and say, we need to balance humanity with the rule of law right? >> all right. so we've covered a very significant vulnerability. let's talk about something democrats see as a real asset for them in this campaign, mali, and that's abortion rights and protecting reproductive rights we've learned kamala harris is planning to visit a minnesota abortion clinic, a planned parenthood, which is not something that a sitting vice president are present it didn't has ever done. and i think it's worth pointing out that the clinics themselves before the fall of roe were a huge flashpoint in the abortion wars. i mean, if you were on the liberal side of the issue, they will ask for volunteers to escort people through the crowds of protesters, often carrying very grotesque signs and saying things to people physically to cross the line, to get into the clinic itself. what does it tell you that suddenly democrats are embracing this to the point that they're sending kamala harris to a clinic well, it tells you that as you said, this is they view this as an important, probably the central political asset or this campaign. and i think for democrats, there's, they need to break through to voters that this is actually at risk. there's a sense and vice president harris has been the admitted restrictions chief messenger on this issue. they view her as very good at making the case about reproductive rights, what they've been calling reproductive freedom. she's been touring the country and talking about this for more than a year now at basically ever since the supreme court decision for i think for the campaign, there's the feeling that number one, people don't necessarily, well people don't know where donald trump is on this issue because he hasn't said he obviously was responsible for the reporting in places supreme court that overturned roe. >> but he has not said what >> kind of national policy he would support going forward, whether he would favor any kind of federal ban and what kind of limit he would favor, what other kinds of details because ever since that decision, there have been a lot of questions about how how we should move forward as a country or whether it should be left to the states. wanting to highlight and wanting to pin him down on this issue. and also just wanting to get through to voters that this is something that they view who as an important right that is at risk because not it's not necessarily the case that everybody understands that. >> woman, sarah, it's so says to me that the ground has shifted so much since the fall of roe. i mean, this previously would have been something honestly, democrats were going afraid to do it. >> they wouldn't have wanted to do it. but now they are really firmly on the office on the issue that they're willing willing to do it. why do you think it's changed that way? >> well, i mean, i think that they've watched now multiple cycles. it really worked for them to be on offense on this issue. i also think right now, donald trump is a weird one on abortion because you can't pin him down. but i remember when he was campaigning in 2016, he said that if a woman had no abortion, she should be punished in some way, right? and we've now seen places like texas and other laws that are close to that idea of punishment. but at the same time, because donald trump is a liberties as a human, like when i've listened to voters talk about him, voters like this guy doesn't care about abortion. this guy is paid for abortions. they just, they don't think of him as somebody with sexual morality or somebody like mike johnson or mike pence. and that gives him the sheen of sort of moderation and the biden administration and this campaign is going to have to work extra hard to really make it seem like they are donald trump and the court and the republicans are all after these rights, after ivf and push that as hard as they can >> really interesting. all right. >> everyone's going to stick around the do nothing congress does something. the house passing a bill that could ban tiktok. but the senate might not be ready to delete the app. and the third time, meanwhile, could be the charm for spacex, the new launch coming up in minutes after the last man mission to the moon blew up >> can the reeva's support your brain health? 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i certainly >> don't you for going to address this issue. we've got to take the same approach to also some media platforms. we can't just single out one. >> this is a common sense measure to protect our national security. >> this is not an attempt to ban tiktok, its attempt to make talk better. tic tac toe. >> a winner a winner >> tic-tac-toe okay. that's it. go viral on tiktok senior cnn senior media analyst sara fischer joins us now along with the rest of our panel. sir, i felt that pelosi bite there was a nice little we'll encapsulation of these kind of older members of congress trying to regulate tiktok. what happened yesterday, what happens next? >> so yesterday the house passed this bill, now goes to the senate. it's going to face a lot more tension and opposition in the senate. i think there's concern, particularly amongst democrats about what the political implications could be a bending this app ahead of the election but what comes next is a big lobbying fight. i mean, tiktok is already urging its users to call their members of congress, urged them to not pass this bill. they're doing a lot of advertising around washington, dc. if this were to pass expect this to go become a huge legal battle. biden said he would pass it in the law if it doesn't take back remains so i mean, i look, i get they're asking their users to call congress like did that backfire? i mean, they put this note up on the app. these officers get inundated with her saying, i mean, children are calling, asking them like, what is a member of congress, right? it went from potentially having some opposition in the committee. it came out of to a unanimous passage out of the energy and commerce committee. i mean, it seems like very obvious based on what they're doing that the main criticism that is at the heart of this opposition, which is that tiktok, if it wants to, could push a button and influence american politics like didn't they, with their lobbying campaign just prove exactly that? 0.0. that's a really >> good and interesting question perhaps, but it's still spooked democrats, democrats overwhelmingly feel this pressure from young people. remember they need that voting bloc in november. and so i think it was effective particularly on the senate side and making them spooked about a particular bill or a vote board. the thing to note though here is that is still no smoking gun and that's the whole issue with this law. you need to have serious national security proof and evidence to convince not just the public, but to convince courts that this is not going to be a free-speech violation and expect tiktok to lean into that exactly when they appeal it. if it becomes law or try to sue, there's precedent for divestment. there is precedent for domestic divestment, but here's one challenge with divestment here. who are they going to divest to that? our current doj and ftc will allow to buy it with this antitrust regulation and environment right now. i mean, look at who wants it. microsoft wants it. well, they could barely get activision. that acquisition of that activates an acquisition acquired so, you look at oracle, there's some political implications there. so even if we did say this wall goes through, that they have to divest. i'm not quite sure what we have the infrastructure in place to allow a major player that could afford it to buy it >> yeah, so it's very interesting because you clearly are having conversations with all these. but the conversation tech folks are having about it i, mean the bipartisan nature though that we saw in the house yesterday, shows that there's the political conversation is totally different. like people are on different planes here based on kind of what you're saying, sara, you're nodding. >> yeah. i mean, look, i don't know when was the last time anybody in congress agreed that that resoundingly on anything. and it's funny because i watched that vote take place. and all the young people in my office were like how in grief. >> and so >> they are more engaged on this that i've seen them on many things. i am not on tiktok because it is chinese spyware. and then i don't want it on my phone, but like this, this is a tricky 1.1 that i think everybody is just starting to really understand all the various players and how it relates to one, yeah, i shouldn't say that. i do actually have it in my work phone, but i caved after many years because i wouldn't do it. i will not do it on my personal phone because i'm trying to spyware reasons. we're going to show in a second. make your point, but i've got some kids we can show crying about this, but i am on tiktok and i resisted it, but i enjoy the app and i think the contradiction here in the frustrating part is people feel like all the platforms are listening to them. all the platforms compromise their data. and i understand that the, the, the people who are doing it here are the chinese government and we don't want them to have that. >> but it feels like >> targeting one company rather than solving the broader issue around social media, children are being he targeted. we saw hearings where mark zuckerberg, who create it facebook now, meta was testifying when children committed suicide, have eating disorders, having access to drugs congress can regulate on this. they can go and they can do work around section two. third was just regulations on platforms. they're not doing the hard thing. they're taking one and making example. but if, if tiktok goes away, there will be something else that's the one thing we know about technology. so really go to the root of the issue and protect people's consumer's data don't let technology listen to us, don't let it be spyware for american companies or for the chinese government is i think cause some people, i mean, i think that is really, i mean, again, the big distinction thanks to the chinese communist party, it would go through some examples in a second, but first to just put some faces to what we're talking about here. sarah longwell mentioned young employees in her office in grief after this passed yesterday. watch some of what we heard from some young people who are opposed to this watch literally not even a month ago. >> i >> quit my job to do tiktok >> social media full-time. >> there are 80 years of generation z that are now eligible voters in this election year. >> do you really want to them all >> off by taking away their favorite app where they make friends, where they make contents, where they laugh, where a lot of us creators make our money. you want to take that app away >> molly ball >> well, i mean, i think there's two ways of seeing this. if you're say a member of the united states senate on the one hand, that seems deeply unhealthy to me that people are that attach when app. and so maybe that's the case for sanely angel you should do something about this. maybe young people shouldn't be spending 20 hours of their day, you know, addicted to this thing. on the other hand, like that is a powerful statement of the politics of this, right? i mean the fact that these congressional offices had to shut down their phones because they were getting so many calls. yeah. they didn't like that. yeah, it backfired on a short the term basis because they they said we don't like this sort of strong arming and we're going to make them angry anime as it made them angry. but it also showed them this is something that affects people. there's a lot of things congress does that are a tree falling in the forest and voters never noticed they pass some ginormous infrastructure bill and nobody knows about it. this is something that hits people where they live and its people who you know, to sara's point are young voters that they need in this election that both parties really need in this election. and they will notice if something, if biden were to sign a ban, if the senate passed it, would he be signing his death, a political death warrant and the fall? >> i don't know. i mean, look young people, they're not the most reliable voting bloc but i do think god, it's so depressing. democracy is on the line. and what they're going up, but they'll turn out over chinese spyware like they won't go vote for joe biden for that. but democracy is on the line and that they can get motivated for, i will tell you nothing he has made me feel as old ever as this segment. we're watching those kids crying. i am a libertarian at our free speech, absolutist, but also the parent india's like, give me your phone kids, you use this to do >> i think. i >> don't want to underplay the fact that it is a problem that this is going to the chinese communist party. but i think the reality is like we had an election in 2016 where russians targeted the right and the left on an american own platform name, facebook at the time and interfere with our election and no regulations have been past eight years later. and so they're just feels like a contradiction. people like this app because it makes everybody beyond the same playing field now there are algorithms are working a little more compromised and they have before, but everyone has a microphone now and it fills in a way, again. realizing in the backdrop, there's the chinese communist party. it feels like a way to democratize how people can communicate with other folks. >> i was just going to say in terms of the election, this is not going to get banned overnight. so what's essentially going to happen is you're not going to make it available in the app store for 170 million people who have this downloaded on their phone, you can't remove it from their phone. but what it does if you don't have it on an app store is you can't do updates so over time the app becomes obsolete because you can't do an update for security purposes or for new features and functions, but that's not going to happen. anytime before november. in fact, i expect there to be a lot of litigation through courts that could last for years. so in terms of the political impact here, even if this were to pass, people are still going to have access to it on their phones. they're not going to feel the impact of it. so i actually don't think it's going to have a huge impact in november. >> that's very smart, very interesting. >> all right? >> this has been i'm with you on. i mean, my kids are too way too little for phones, but like i was the last person, probably the grew up without the internet. right. i'd like an old millennial, if you will, an ai model you and i are on different pages on this. i know, but i as far as i'm concerned, like no phones still your 16 55 minutes past the hour here is your morning roundup. a federal judge ruling hunter biden will face trial in june 3rd on gun charges. he allegedly lied about his drug use on federal forms while purchasing a revolver. he's also facing a trial in june 20 for alleged tax evasion a student pilot is under arrest after allegedly trying to open the cockpit doors repeatedly when he was a passenger on an alaska airlines flight nathan jones allegedly told the flight crew he was quote, testing them it kids don't do that because lawyer says his family is concerned about his mental health >> and in >> just over an hour, spacex will try again to launch its unmanned and starship rocket. the faa gave the green light on wednesday to previous attempts, ended in explosions. star starship is a key part of nasa's artemis program that aims to return astronauts to the moon and then there's this south dakota governor kristi noem has been sued over a viral video of her endorsing a excess dental practice. she is also facing questions from state lawmakers. here's a taste >> well, hi, i'm kristi noem. i'm the governor of south dakota and had the opportunity to come to smile texas it says to fix my teeth, which has been absolutely amazing when they showed me my beautiful new cheese. i hugged dr. davis does anyone want to see kristi noem is 80s-set close like >> what is going on, like what she's a sitting governor of south dakota. >> well, when the republican presidential candidate is out there, hawking's shoes and mug shot t-shirts, i guess the rest of them actually hold elective know that's true. i'm just saying i'm just saying he created i was i love to say he's created a permission structure and a culture in the republican party of i guess, these elected jobs that we have are just new opportunities for us to endorse products. >> i have to say, i mean, i have a slight phobia of the dentist like i don't want to see it. >> nobody wants to see anybody's teeth that close. but also, i feel like the norm is that you don't talk about how you get so put together, right? especially for politics. well, yeah, there's that you're not saying like this is what i looked like when i wake up and then this is what i do with my hair and my skin and my makeup the whole point is to pretend you woke up like this news and spent all this money on it. disaster. what is she doing? >> i mean, it would be a great video for tiktok know i've done it on tiktok. it might be i saw it on x. >> gave them leads >> yeah. >> it is also interesting. she's on the shortlist to be the vice president for donald trump. so it just it's kinda tells you where the republican party is, where they're like, they're spokespeople for different ads and they use it as opportunities now to i don't i bless trump >> governor is very >> experienced when it comes to advertising. you'll recall during major events, she'll spend a lot of money and her state's budget to promote the state of south dakota and promote tourism. so this is somebody who's always leaned in the advertising. so i'm not shocked to see her so why an atom state to get our teeth, that's weird. why did i don't know? i don't know that she >> wanted and south dakota to her to you that is actually really good question is betraying her stay >> i mean i mean, i don't know state money to advertise towards into the state seems like an investment not sterilely wanted. she did this with a really great south dakota dental practice, right? >> maybe that's the way they promoting your state. >> maybe she needs to us as political strategist >> i'll pass okay. >> on that note, i'll leave you with this thanksgiving revenge at traffic stops, wild turkeys tried to carve up police officers. oh, no, these officers outside cleveland were not prepared to be harassed us to me, ran from their tormentors in florida. an officer tried to stand his ground, but this turkey had a flock of chickens behind it. he says, they'll refer my feathers back up back. ma'am, you know, second so if. >> i'm getting attacked, taking right now >> okay. >> no officers were injured in these encounters. i've never tried to talk to the turkeys, but hey, imagining that police report that says the turkiye did not respond to commands he has been >> resistant, is resisting

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