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Fiber im Clarissa Ward In Jerusalem Hello Again and welcome. Its time to get together with some smart people. Theyre break down the big stories today, were asking facing stiff headwinds from bad balls, border prices, and rowdy republicans what did the President Big speech tell us about the state of job . Five then Donald Trumps remarkable political comeback. But will a jury of his peers stopped him in his tracks. And the March Madness At One University that has everything to do with the basketball team. But nothing to do with the game itself. The panel is here and ready to go. So sit back, relax, and lets talk about it up. First. President biden spending the weekend on the Campaign Trail trying to build on whatever momentum he gained from this week State Of The Union union address. A speech before tens of millions of americans that biden used to launch his campaign for reelection the state of our union is strong and getting stronger joe biden turned the traditional State Of The Union speech into a Campaign Rally barely taking the podium before he ripped the bark off trump and republicans. My predecessor, a former republican president , tells putin, quote, do whatever the hell you want on ukraine, january 6, and abortion. Biden said voters face a clear choice in november, many of you in this change hi, my predecessor, a promising to pass a national ban on reproductive freedom my god, what freedom else would you take away . The president also played defense trying to shift the blame for the illegal immigration surge, challenging republicans who killed a bipartisan border deal at trumps urging, the Border Patrol union his endorsed this bill the federal chamber of commerce isnt yeah. Yeah. You say no. Look at the facts. But in their response, republicans pushed back president bidens Border Policies are a disgrace here with me today podcaster and author of the bestseller burn book, kara swisher. Sarah longwell, publisher of the bulwark, who also runs the focus group podcast. New york times journalist and podcast host lulu garcianavarro and Senior Editor at the dispatch, john mccormack. Welcome back, everyone. So lets take a trip around the paddle on a scale of one to 1010 being the Gettysburg Address. I want you to give me a score for how biden did and instead of the union speech, one on substance to style okay. Guys, for your desk was not popular when it was said at the time to people didnt like that speech at all, but its also the greatest speech in history. I would give him a nine on on style and seven on substance why . Well, a nine because i think he did what he was supposed to do the gop had set the bar at corpse and therefore, he looked fantastic. So he gets a 9. 10 because its not the Gettysburg Address for seven is because he didnt he didnt say a lot. There wasnt a lot. It was a Campaign Speech essentially. Thats exactly what it was. Sara, what are those scores . So on style, im gonna go with nine as well but again, its because of the low expectations. If it was the Gettysburg Addresses the bar, id go with like a four because thats thats not where the bar was on substance. Ill probably go with a six. Im more to the center right. Than joe biden, but his positions on ukraine and starting out on Foreign Policy that was right up my alley. Lula i would do a solid eight for style. I thought he seemed forceful. He seemed energized as we say in spanish, that he had his batteries in. And so you could really see that he was energized. And i would also give them a solid aid for substance i believe because i think he addressed the things that he needed to address. He needed to rally his base and he did it he was talking about issues that were very important to them, like reproductive rights. And he did bring that home. John, i only give him a five on style because i wasnt that impressed that he spoke quickly and loudly. I think someone pointed out that there were zero Exclamation Point Prince and last years address, there were at in this years address, youre talking about the actual script actually at an explanation of this year. And on substance as a conservative, id give them a three. He started out strong on ukraine, but then went on to a laundry list of democratic Talking Points the only two new policies i really heard were a 10,000 credit for homebuyers. Thats not going to solve the problem. And they talked about a gaza humanitarian aid peer. Im not quite sure how thats going to work. Kara, as our queen of snark, im going to give you the opportunity. What was your grade, your score for senator katie britts gop response less than zero . It was as if someone put into chat gpt stepper wife, mates weird kitchen, meet someone who failed at getting the lead in the high school play. It was terrible. Theres just so we always make too Big A Deal Overemphasize the importance of these speeches of speech. Its given and it ends two weeks from now, how big a deal with this speech bay . Its a big, big deal. Its crazy momentum around, but joe biden and gets rid of that idea that i know the republicans are attacking for being too energetic. But before he was too slow, so too bad. He looks like he can do it and it gets people excited. Sara. Yeah. Look, i think that this is going to stop the drip, drip, drip of People Writing opeds telling him he needs to step down and that somebody needs to replace them or that they need to replace Kamala Harris on the ticket like he put to bear the fact that hes gonna be the nominee and that hes up to it. John, as somebody who was the least and impressed by the speech. Let me give it to you in a more Negative Spin to joe biden stop the bleeding of his president ial candidacy by his performance this week, i think sarah is exactly right that he shored up democrats and i think that if that was his objection he definitely succeeded. You had prominent democrats calling for him. Hey, were going to replace where the convention i think thats dead, at least for another month if his polls started thanking even more, maybe that comes back. But for now, hes bought himself a month. Now, last week, i asked all of you whether or not biden could flip the script on immigration by talking about republicans killing the border. Bill oh, lo, did he succeed in flipping the script . I mean, it depends what you mean by that because the big problem is that he really annoyed democrats with the way that he spoke about immigration because he used the word illegals to describe people. We normally dont use that word because people are not illegal. Their actions might be illegal so i think the one hand you annoyed democrats and on the other hand he still has a problem with the numbers. The numbers are not in his favor. The border is still in crisis and nothing has quite been done about it. Yeah, i want to pick up on that because the president can talk about some bill. But the fact remains more than three times as many migrants have been encountered at the border under biden as during the same period under trump so john did biden succeed in any way and flipping the script on immigration and making it less of a vulnerability for him and a strength for trump. I wouldnt say flip the script, but he can definitely Bracket Trump is going to go hard saying, look at all the Executive Orders that i had an immigration that youd undone and biden will say, hey, look at this compromise. There were pieces of the law that needed to be fixed regardless of executive authority. So i do think he has helped himself. I think itll be a real debate, but i think one of the things that really matters here is that when you look at trump, he uses words like poisoning the blood of our nation when hes talking about immigrants, hes saying all immigrants are criminals that theyre bringing crime into this country. I think when you look at that contrast, i think biden does a lot better because hes trying to show, hey, this is a problem, but i have a policy solution. I have a humane solution that isnt xenophobic. Does he do better or does he do worse, john, in the sense that if youre really concerned about people coming over the border, not saying that im endorsing trumps language dont doesnt trump have more credibility . Hes going to stop the border. If you look at the polls, trump clearly has an advantage. Now, do i think that this bill helps biden shrink it if theres debates and he can point to this bill. Yes, i do think it marginally helps him, but when you issue for trump, hes got to do something about it thats all shes got to actually do something and they can argue about whos fault here. But he is holding the bag right now and its his job and therefore, you dont river before the speech, we were all talking about Executive Action that he might take to unilaterally try to do something about the border, not talk about it, but do something he didnt do that sure. I want to talk to you about something ive been hearing a term in the last few days that is new to me Double Haters, i want to put up a poll. I have to say, i like this it fits the campaign perfectly in a New York Times poll 19 were described as doublehaters because they disapprove of both biden and trump. And biden is correct . Currently leading among the doublehaters 45 to 33 . So sarah are the doublehaters a real thing and whos going to end up winning the doublehaters. So i conduct focus groups all the time and the Double Haters are absolutely a real thing. In fact, because we have this phenomenon here, where you essentially have two incumbents running against each other. The persuadable chunk of voters is different this time it is people who have, they, they know both these guys and they dont like either. And so thats why this is going to be a really negative campaign because persuadable voters to bring them over, youre gonna have to make them hate the other guy more. The phrase that we hear in focus groups all the time. And if it was a drinking game, wed all be dead is the first lesser of two evils and what they mean is im basically to make my decision on who i hate, slightly less and biden usually cleans up on that front cause people hate trump a little bit more okay thats, thats his claim to fame. 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But as historic as the first race between two former president s since taft and Teddy Roosevelt while back in 2019 is the journey former President Trump has taken since he left the white house under a cloud of shame and rejection they call it Super Tuesday for a reason, a comeback that was unimaginable three years ago, donald trump wrapping up a gop nomination and rematch with joe biden has never been anything so concluded. In the carnage after january 6, trump was all but one out of washington. Democrats and republicans. Theres no question. John, there President Trump is practically and morally responsible and the publics view of trump was the worst of his presidency, only 33 favorable fastforward to this wave. And things have changed and i said, i would support the nominee for president. Even if it were the former president. But there are the four criminal trials and 91 charges which seemed to boost support for trump in the primaries. And much more popular than i was before weaponization that could change in november remember, with large numbers of republican primary voters in six states saying trump is not fit to be president if hes convicted kara, how did donald trump do it . How did he overcome january 6 disappointing midterm, a big field . Of republican opponents. And win the republican nomination. Well, one, hes incredibly wellknown to, hes an incumbent and three america has a memory drop on almost everything in the last 15 minutes. Thats what we do. That said, i think people will remember very quickly as he starts to appear on the scene all the time and i still believe hes im going to lose badly badly i dont know it seems to be a 50, 50 nation john, how do you explain it . How how despite all of these prompts, i mean, you know what it would be comparable to Richard Nixon leaving after watergate and then a couple of years later, hes back as the nominee of the party. How did he keep his grip on the Republican Base despite all of the problems over the last four years, you know, even it is lowest moments after january 6, when his poll numbers overall, were down at 30 . There was still a majority of republicans who supported him. So i think he was always a front runner. The closest we ever came to not wanting the nomination and was when the senate failed to convict him three years ago. Ron desantis, i think someone in his position could have beaten trump, but again, you had to be a very uniquely talented politician to be effectively an incumbent republican president on the other hand, as i pointed out in the piece, trump still does face those four criminal tria

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