More. The whole story with Anderson Cooper tomorrow on cnn thank you hey mr. Barkley walk in new york city. Here its paying were not going to waste your time with gayle king and say, but you miguel and charles barkley, i tonight. Thats selling president ial historian, jon meacham, former nba Star Rexx Chapman from the daily show. Comedian will say slow king, charles starts now i see that open. Charles, i always say, im glad we get to do this show. Dont you . I am loved doing the show, but im pumped that night. I know we got a couple of special guests, but im really excited for rex chapman. I love that guy. I know. Im yes. I just met him. Youve known for a long time, but if you were so excited, you call me, dont be calling me on the weekend yeah weve got a real special show for you tonight because weve got three interviews that we cant wait to talk to you about in a few minutes. Were going to bring in a president ial story and a man with a hand in the state of the Union Address thats coming up very soon. His name is jon meacham. Then we have one of the stars of the daily show that would be dole, say sloan to talk about whats going on in this country . Some people were very concerned. We were out talking to people earlier this evening. Theyre very concerned about whats happening in america, how shes covering it. Shes got a new book. Shes talking about state of politics dating. Shes got lots to discuss plus an interview. I know. Im very excited about this. Chapman i didnt know rex chapman. Hes on a journey. You have to see to believe from basketball star to adek, to rock bottom, to twitter celebrity. Why do you like him . Youve known him awhile while ago, him a long time. Number one, because hes just a great person. I really appreciate him sharing his book i have a younger brother passed away who was an attic. So its very personable, personal to me was somebody that makes it out the other side. And ill always youre better. I want to say 42 somewhere in there. Rona. He was a grownup man. Most people i got a chance to me jelly roll at the allstar weekend . Yes. So many people who were covered on stage and i walked up to him, said, man, thank you. Because its interesting when. Youre in the fight . Yeah. Because i usually want to grab my brother like, you man, why cant you stop doing drugs . He like, you dont understand and obviously passed away at a young age, but it has such a negative. I dont think my mother epa got over. Itd be honest with you because when you have somebody whos struggling with addiction in a just them, its everybody everybody around you. So looking forward to talking to rex . Yes. And on our last show, just last wednesday, just after the Alabama Supreme Court ruled that frozen embryos used in Fertility Treatments were children that story broke just as we were going on the air last week, we have president ial candidate nikki haley on and asked her about the ruling. She told us that that time that she believes you remember what she said . She said charles, she told us that life begins at conception. And so yes, those frozen embryos, the ones thousands of desperate parents depend on to start or grow their families should be considered children. Then the house and the day sense her comments on this show, her fellow republicans have been desperately trying to change the conversation on a hard time. Otherwise yeah, even alabama senator, that of course was lindsey graham, but alabama senator Tommy Tuberville is now saying ivf needs to be protected in the state of alabama, which charles is your state now for the record, many of the republicans are saying they want protect ivf. Theyre also cosponsors of the bill thats aimed at doing the opposite. Now, du youre just sitting there with your head and your your hand in your head and your hands never a good sign. Whats wrong . When im thinking what i agree with trump matt gaetz and Tommy Tuberville. You know what things are bad, like well, you agree with them on specifically . Yeah. Anybody who wants to have a baby whos trying, we should do everything to support them. Yes. Make it economic feasible. And do everything in our power, having a kid, my daughter, i have one kid. Shes the best thing ever happened to me in my life and anybody who wants to have a baby, we should do it. Everything in our power to do to give them an opportunity, make it affordable, and things like take that. But like i say, if im agreeing with trump tuberville and gates, you knows, alabama got it wrong. Well, the problem in alabama now is that many of the Fertility Clinics have put the procedures on hold in the abs, so all of these parents that are in limbo that for many of them, this is the only way that they can have a child. Just think about that for just a second. And i think many People Struggle when you say that an embryo is a human, is a child, because they dont have heartbeats. They are not fully formed. And ive heard woman after woman say to me, you know, i had four embryos and planted none of them took. Yeah. I had two embryos implanted, only one of them took so theres no guarantee that the embryos will become children. Thats why people are struggling. Well, i understand it totally been like we should never be criminalize. Well, first of all, i want to say some before i get started, im prochoice. Want to make that clear . Im pro choice but i disagree with the ruling for the simple fact we should make it possible and affordable. I know im being redundant, repeating myself, but its just a bad ruling and its really unfortunate not just in this situation its just really unfortunate how these politicians are taken away. So many women, its reproductive rights, like its not up to me as a man even if i was in politics, its not up to me to make the decision on whether women have babies or not. Thats just thats not what our political system was about. The data balls made the most politicians star using all of these divisive issues as wedges to make, to divide and conquer. Ive always said working though towels. Well, what we know is that the former president always makes news. We were texting about this over the weekend, charles and i, when he says, please dont text me earlier that morning, i cant help it the former president raised a lot of eyebrows with these comments while talking to listen to the audience, a black conservative conference, he said this i got indicted a second time in a third time and a fourth time and a lot of people said that thats why the black people like because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated against. And they actually viewed me as im being destroyed the mug shot weve all seen the mug shot. And you know who embraced it more than anybody else. The black population, its incredible. You see black people Walking Around with my mug shut they do shirts when you heard that, what did you think big sigh first of all, im just going to say this if i see. A black person Walking Around with trump mugs, had them a punch him in the face. Charles, i know gail you really cant say that because a you dont mean that. I mean that sincerely ill just say its up and then you will be arrested for assault. And then what im obell myself out to go celebrate. If i still dont encourage him. Okay. Go shes asleep. Continue first of all, couples at that at that conference, he got up and walked out. That was an insult to all black people. He basically just saying, if first of all to compare black history where weve been discriminated against to his plight . Yes. Well, first of all, hes a billionaire and they are prosecuting him for stuff he did wrong. They prosecuting him for stuff he did wrong for him to compare the court system, charles, we have to wait. Its still in the court system, but continue continue. Continue. Someone stuff is true. They did storm the count. They did say that the election was stolen knows online oh, scale they say that okay. That but to compare, i would have got up and walked out because its not a fair comparison you know, hes a billionaire, hes had a great life. Hes been president United States to insult black people who have been discriminated against all these years to can put them in the same category i was just offended. I mean, people question a if he is a billionaire, theres theres always a conversation about that, but i think people thought, what do you think when you hear it . Well, i just thought i thought it was insulting. I thought it was insulting to people of color that to paint the black community with one brush. And you really cant compare his indictment. I said i thought because he says i know its so hard to verbalize it because it made me so angry and i was so insulted by his words because hes implying that because black people have criminal problems, thats exactly right. Yeah, thats what he meant yeah they said so but thats what he meant. I do believe that i do believe thats exactly what he meant. And then somebody tried to spin it to me and said no, what he was saying is that he feels sympathetic to black people who had been falsely accused, like he i dont believe that that i do not believe that you know, i dont like free for all black people, but im going to right now feel sympathetic to him this plight. We do not you dont speak for all black people. I dont like doing that, but i am in this particular case, we dont feel his plight but are really i really just feel bad because we need adults in the room we got to immigrant problem. We got inflation. Weve got the situation. Hawai i want to solve real problems. I dont want to talk about all this as to the Curriculum Stuff behind the scenes. I want somebody to get it as, hey, you know what, i want to do was great for the American People you know what charles, while you say you dont speak for all black people, there is a contingent of people that say that the black vote, that donald trump is getting more black vote this time than he did last time. I know youve heard that. Well i think theres a couple of reasons number one i dont like using the term black people. Poor people americans discriminate america number one, black people in this category, america discriminates against poor people but youre white or black. If youre poor, you discriminate all these policies have a class issue, is a more of a clam thats issue. Thats what bothers me. Put as a guy, ive only voted republican one time on my life. I voted for john kasich for president. I have voted democratic my entire life and im starting to question that, dont mean im a vote republican but im starting to question like, always vote democratic and im like, you know, what has got a better chance to happen. Poor people but the one thing i know about poor people, theyre always poor in a Democratic Party us, us, us as black people. We vote, we voted for them. First of all, asked to black people used to be republicans until the civil rights act, exactly the day most people, you know that, yeah, but we bolt pretty much been democratic for the last x amount of years. But we never hold them accountable. And they only come around every four years and say, bowl for us. They take all our boost for granite. Thats why black people are leaving the Democratic Party. Thats not me and theyve gone to the republican party, did become in visit this interested like, im not going to vote when donald trump says that black people can relate to them, or he relates to black people because you have been falsely accused or arrested have you ever been arrested . A few times you know what . Im not proud of that fact because what fighting for fighting when i was younger, i was stupid. I got to fight and get a lot because instead of walking away lacking an adult, i was a stupid kid in kids. I tell kids state may walk away. Yeah. Let them call you names fighting. You didnt do that . Because i was young and stupid. But as ive gotten older elliott spitzer, blazed a trail that had him in Spitting Distance of the white house right up until the moment he set himself on fire. 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It is what issues concern you most is you get ready to vote in 2024, migrant crisis especially in the city. For me, one of the biggest things is getting back to governing. Oh, my gosh, the preservation sure enough democracy. I think abortion is a big one. Womens rights a lot of things. So whats happening with an israel was caught begun i probably the quick call me charles always gets a phone call. Our first guest is a president ial hey, did you choose from well, thats how most americans phi it is. But what weve been unhappy since the third chapter of genesis, right, since we got kicked out of the garden and weve been this unhappy though. I think. Well, lets take it out this way in my world, we have a debate about where we founded 16, 19, or 17, 76. I think neither the United States of america, as we understand it today, was founded in 1965. The first integrated electorate in the United States was in 1968, 20 minutes ago historically, the immigration and nationality act, it took just help change the country, the civil rights act, the Voting Rights act were 55 years old or so and so the notion that we were unhappy because of the choices sure. I mean, we would all love to have Lincoln Running Against Kennedy and youre not really going to lose, right . But thats not reality. And reality is, this is where we are the choices very stark. I personally, im not a democrat. Im not a republican who voted for president s of both parties. But i honestly believe that theres a patriotic imperative to vote for President Biden against former president trump. Are you are you concerned about his age, which are also a friend of joe bidens too. So i am but i believe this so take it take it for what its worth. Thats why i said that. Take it for what its okay. But what are you concerned about his age . Im concerned about my age