Hello everyone, and welcome to the amanpour, hour. Heres where were headed. This shaken by the suffering Top International aid leader yan egeland seize the situation in gaza with his own eyes. You have to come to gaza to understand the devastation that the tuition and the desperation of the people here also ahead, Psychologist Mary Trumps analysis of her uncles obsession with the strong man syndrome. It is really no laughing matter when at that point the leader of the free world is being described as a prepubescent child, then the horse race and an ageold dilemma why the obsession over bidens age, mrs. The point i wonder whether paying people are as aware of trumps authoritarian plans as they are of bidens age. Also, this hour, troubled waters. The death of two Chinese Fishermen, Spot Confrontation off the coast of taiwan there is conflict. Both sides would be devastating and from my Archive Civilians under siege in sarajevo Dodging Sniper Fire to feel if their families, a father holds a half rotten apple for this years risked his life welcome to the program, everyone. Im Christiane Amanpour in london. The impact of the war in gaza is ratcheting up on israel, on the United States and on the people of gaza, them selves. More than 30,000 an hour dead, close to half of them children. The unthinkable tall of israels offensive there since the october 7 attack by hamas. In an astonishing conversation this week unrwa chief Philippe Lazzarini told me the looming famine in gaza is now so bad that some people have been eating animal feed to survive. And even that now is running out. We hear more and more situation where there is not even enough animal food for Human Consumption for the people there. Let me just stop you what do you say . Animal foods good for Human Consumption. Thats what theyre relying on. Theres not even an offer that we there is not even enough of animal food and invalid folder for people to eat or to do bread with animal of florida. And at the end of the week this crisis was evident when more than 100 people were killed under israeli fire and then trample in the chaos after trying to reach Food Distribution trucks. That situation is just what the head of the norwegian refugee council, yan egeland, had warned me about earlier this week, yan egeland, welcome to the program from rafah. Thank you very much. What is it like . Like to be there and see it for the first time . Weve heard a lot. Weve seen pictures, we hear reports from inside. What are you seeing with your own eyes christiana you have to come to gaza to understand the devastation that tuition and the desperation of the people here i have never in my many, many ss network seen a place that has been shown bombarded for such a long time with such attract Public Relation without any escape. So people are traumatized beyond belief. They live under the most horrific conditions. I wasnt a school today with 50 people sleeping in a small classroom you know, 250, 200 people sharing one latrine and no real water. Food too few mattresses, even were trying to do all we can as the norwegian refugee council. But were really, really overstretched in this ocean of needs you know, finally, the International Community has started to airdrop some aid. But what we saw was that some of it dropped into the sea and the pictures are really ones of, you know, i mean total just panic. People, scavenging, people are fighting each other, people are trying to get these plastic. I guess their Military Rations can they be no better way of delivering aid even in the midst of a war. They can be a much better way really. And its up to israel with the United States and egypt to fix it. You know, as people who are saying, how can we send aid into the people who killed our women and children and kidnapped our people. So the politics is even playing out and the trauma on the border there. But i want to ask you how you react to lets just say palestinians who talked to reuters said about the airdrops we came throwing ourselves toward death to get some flour. We cant find anything. Have mercy on us. And other said, our life has become hell and we know because a cnn investigation found that israel actually fired on a un, un convoy carrying Food Supplies earlier this month, february 5 yes. Yes. And also say, i mean its beyond belief that people who are mourning, of course, the worst massacre in the history of israel good on the october what believed that taking it away food from children and women completely innocent, had nothing to do with 7 october could cannon anyway, helped the poor hostage, which is here the hamas militants have food and they are in tunnels they have nothing to do with the people that we ate. The chaos yes. Around the aid line is becoming worse and worse because theres so little aid coming in today im pretty shaken actually from what i saw the minute we cross the border from orderly and specially populated cni, you you see the aid trucks going full speed down the road being chased by gangs of youth who jumped the trump. The trucks. And before is loot mattresses, blankets, food, et cetera to the desperate people outside who want to get some aid. So jan. Yan is this key. Is this stealing or is this an attempt to distribute this is crazy away as you describe to distribute this aid. I think it is actually sulfurs selfservice, bi those strongest have received no aid and well have grandmothers, children, nephews, who are starving people are not looting each other they loot what they see as an International Community coming with, taught to little to them. So then they take what they can get we have especially way of going in with nrc. We have had known our trucks looted, yet, and we do orderly distributions with local organizations, but i dont let who have have to use there open trucks in a situation of desperation. And by the way, the police, which was supposed to have some ordering, this was bumped repeatedly by his red, the blue blue uniform police so thats done. Now, they are in civilian clothing. Try are in civilian clothing trying to shoot in the air. No its reloads, so anarchy and some places. Let me ask you them because youre in refers specifically, youve probably had some access towards khan yunis, but what a lot of people people are very concerned about right now, including the residents who we can manage to hear from oren, the north. Theres a picture that were going to play. Its a mother who says theres no more milk in the enclave, or at least up there. So shes wrapping a date in a goals and letting her baby boys suck on it as if to suck all the juice out of this date we have heard that there are stories of Young Children saying that they would rather die. Weve heard adult say they are going to theyre preparing to die. They think they will all die can you get to the north where we understand there is a famine rising there . What do you know about the north . Will you go to the north . But im not able myself now to go to the north and i see it has 88 workers in the north and they are themselves starving weve got a little bit of food to our aid workers the other day. But the convoys have really been sorely looted from the desperation and normlessness in this bombarded north so theres very little way, there is very little supplies that to start with, so hamman is breaking out there. Theres no other way to describe it, which again shows that the army crossing, which is awesome from israel, its really could fix this they are the occupying power. They have overwhelming military superiority. They could have convoys going over carney crossing, which is in the middle area from where you can easily reach the north. Its very hard from him the south in rafah and kerem shalom area its really such a disaster. Listening to you is very, very disconcerting. Yan egeland. Thank you very much, indeed. Thank you. Thank you for having me and as this sheer basic desperation for food turns more deadly, later, i will show you how the people of gaza besieged and under fire face the same humanitarian horrors that i witnessed covering the bosnia war during the 990s. 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All my shows and movies are here. I feel mirth, joy im sick of me the bedrooms with deliberate details and modern functionality or the indoor in theseus check in at boomer, Darko Inside Politics sunday with manu raju tomorrow at 11 00 a. M. Welcome back. Now, former President Trump reportedly has an old friend in town next week. Hes hungry hes rightwing Prime Minister viktor orban, who has turned his country into the definition of an illiberal democracy or ban is said to be on route for a private meeting at trumps florida club and theyll have plenty to agree on, like, their affinity for president Vladimir Putin of russia, who oban has quoted publicly and trump has praised for his quote, strong control over russia. How will authoritarianism and trumps admiration for these socalled strong men play with voters in november lets bring in the former president s niece, who also happens to be a clinical Psychologist Mary Trump. Welcome back to the program. So lets start by asking you that question. Have you ever been surprised or is it true to type that your uncle showed such an affinity for people like all ban or xi or putin, or even kim jong un of north korea, who we went so miles and miles over to asia to actually meet a couple of times. Now, actually one of the things that should worry everybody about donald is that he has never evolved beyond the kind of person he was when he was very young. And its not at all surprising because he grew up in an authoritarian household and because of the way my grandfather, who was a white straight up sociopath, was it donald became the favorite son and he knew what he needed to do in order to stay on my grandfathers good side because he also understood what would happen to him if he didnt so he is very comfortable in this milia and it is extremely important to him that he get the benefits of associating with strong men like or ban and putin. But also that he beyond their good side you know, thats really interesting the way you frame it. The good side, the fact that as a boy, he wanted to please his father. Let me play for you something that a contemporary of his, when he was in office, the australian Prime Minister said recently about him and putin. I mean, ive been with trump and putin trump is in order of putin hes when you see trump with putin, as i have on a few occasions hes like the 12yearold boy that goes to high school and meets the captain of the football my hero it is really creepy. So you know, that was done in that context. It was a lot of yuck, yuck, but im really stunned by how what you said and i didnt know what youre going to say about his childhood matched exactly what a former Prime Minister of australia witnessed. Yeah, and i think whats important to know that most people certainly wouldnt and it is really no laughing matter when at that point the leader of the free world is being described as a prepubescent child with a crush on an older, more powerful person. Is it what the consequences are. Its not simply that donald knew that by fulfilling his fathers demands to be the quote, unquote killer, to be the successful one. It was understanding what would happen to him if he failed to do those things because he had an Object Lesson in my father, who was quite literally destroyed by his inability to fill the role. My grandfather required of him so many layers to this. So can i ask you then again this leads from what youve just said he absolutely has an obsession with success. So what do you think it means to him . What keeps him up at night, for instance, about the latest one of the latest legal rulings which said that he had to pay Something Like half 1 billion in this in this money Business Case in new york. Yeah. Well, there are a few things. First of all, i think its really important to clarify. Its not that hed be successful. Its that he be seen to be successful because Deep Down Donald knows that he is nothing of what he tends to be. Hes nothing like the portrait he shows to the world, at least to those people who were inclined to believe the myths he tells about himself, right so i think what keeps him up at night, other than a lot of diet coke would be this concern. One, that he doesnt actually have the money, which is a distinct possibility we could say that this offer to come up with only 100 million was a ploy to buy more time or to see if it would work but he may not indeed have that much cash would reveal not just to the world, but you himself, that he is not as rich as he claims to be. He is not the savvy businessman whos been betrayed in new york tabloids since the 1980s. And that would be a crushing blow, not just chew his image but chew his sense of himself many from i want to ask you because you opened the admit you havent actually spoken to him for all these reasons because you disagree with him and this since 2017, but lets just go back to 2015 when he came down the escalator with melania in that whole choreographed announcement of candidacy. When you see that, and those pictures and you fast forward to those now and him back on the campaign trail. Do you see anythings changed . You do you see anything different . Yeah. Listen, i think for anybody in his position, it would be impossible not to be affected by the massive amounts of stress he is under the conflicts just the