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Atlanta, making final arguments for why judge gotten mcafee should disqualify Fulton County Da Fani Willis, whos overseeing his election, Racketeering Trial The Other in fort pierce, florida, pressing a federal judge, aileen cannon, to delay his classified documents trial until after the election. A busy day for Trump Lawyers and for prosecutors. Seen as paula reid starts us off in florida former President Donald Trump at Federal Court in florida. Today for a highstakes hearing to decide when he will be tried for allegedly mishandling classified documents an indictment was unsealed. Charging donald j. Trump with Felony Violations of our National Security laws, as well as participating in a conspiracy to obstruct justice trump faces 40 felony criminal charges related to the alleged mishandling of Classified Information. Some seen here in properly stored at maralago. They raided my house. They did it for publicity reasons. They did it for election interference reasons. They want to interfere with the election the case is currently scheduled for may 20, but judge aileen cannon, a trump appointee, who is overseeing the case, has signaled she may push the trial back in court today, cannon pressed prosecutors and Defense Attorneys about their suggested schedules. Special counsel jack smith proposed a july 8 start date, but during the proceedings, cannon suggested that aspects of smiths proposal were unrealistic. Trumps lawyers insist the trial should be pushed back a trial that takes place before the election is a mistake and should not happen trump attorney todd blanche status it saying it would be unfair to the former president and the American People for trump to be in the courtroom and not on the campaign trail. Thats something that former president has claimed as well. All of this persecution is only happening because i am running for president and leading very substantially in the polls. Trumps attorneys did concede if the trial has to go forward before the election, they would be okay with starting august 12. But prosecutors pushed back saying, if team trump believes the trial before the election is unfair those are fake dates. Why did they even propose those dates . Can and noted that trumps upcoming criminal case in new york must be considered as she schedules this one on march 25th, trumps Hush Money Trial begins in new york and is expected to last four to six weeks. And already busy court schedule. Former President Trump prosecutors today did clarify a key issue how close to the election would they be willing to try trump . Attorney general Merrick Garland has set a speedy trial, is in the Public Interest the cases were brought last year. Prosecutor has urged speedy trials with which i agree. And this now on hand the traditional system, not in our hands today in court though, prosecutors said that a Justice Department policy discouraging public investigative actions. 60 days before an election. Does not apply to cases where charges had already been filed. Prosecutor jay bratt told the court that when it comes to that policy, quote, we are for in full compliance. And paula reid joins us now from the courthouse is it clear if and when judge cannon will set a new trial date so its not clear. When were going to get her decision, anderson, but shes signaled today, but she does intend to move this case back, but you described in july date is being quote, unreasonable. So i would expect that she will move this on the calendar to august the earliest but i would also expect if she does that, the Trump Lawyers will likely come back between now and then and try to push it back even further. That is the game they have been playing, tried to push this back back until after the election even if you have to do it in little pieces. All reid stay with us, want to bring in retired federal judge, nancy gertner, currently a senior law lecturer at harvard, also federal prosecutor and bestselling Supreme Court biographer Jeffrey Toobin i mean, its judge cannon. Is fully in the trump camp. I mean, you know, shes been criticized even by the conservative 11th Circuit Court for bending over backwards too much for trump. But shes dealing now with a profound question and i dont think it is a simple question, which is is donald trump, a defendant like any other defendant who has a schedule based on the convenience of the court. And, you know, all full speed ahead or is the courts supposed to take into consideration this man is running for president. She is indicated she would not take into consideration his campaign schedule. He wouldnt take him his campaign schedule, but that doesnt really answer the question of when you get into the fall, is it appropriate to have one of the two major candidates for president sitting in a courtroom in september, in october, anyone who pretends thats an easy question, i think is blowing smoke. I think its actually a difficult question. Jim carter, the former president s attorneys, arguing that the case shouldnt move forward because before the election, theyve also floated in august 12th, start date why do you think they floated that august 12th start date . They want to make sure that the florida case jumps ahead of the line of the january 6 case. If the january 6 cases ever restarted because they are there for much more comfortable in florida where the jury pool is much more favorable to the former president. Then in dc so i mean, i agree with jeff about the whatll it feel like in september, but i mean, one of the things that is the case here as that this was the play in other words, trumps lawyers have delayed everything, everything that should have been a routine motion turned into a big brouhaha. And unfortunately, the judge has enabled it to be a brouhaha. So were in the situation now. Really because of choices that trumps lawyers made and choices that she really they ratified. So thats the problem. And the one judge who has been pushing this case is judge chutkan and washington, but shes now shut down because the Supreme Court has put everything on hold. And judge cannon has been proceeding at a leisurely pace at best and yes, they were talking about august, but you can be sure, as paula said earlier, that the trump people will continue pushing that date back as much as polar right now. I mean, the only one of the former president s criminal cases with a trial date is the new york hush money case, which did da on that case is now trying to make it a election interference case. What are the odds that the rest all end up delayed until after the election . I mean, that seems increasingly likely it does seem increasingly likely. Lets go through the three other outstanding criminal cases. First, lets deal with georgia, these efforts to disqualify fani willis in that case have likely pushed this back until after november. She had initially said she wanted to start that trial in august expected to last over four months so at this point, its safe to say that case is unlikely to be resolved before the president ial election. As i said before, the classified documents case, i do expect the judge will push it back and well certainly be asked to push it back again, whether she does that. There are some legitimate questions. There are some legitimate issues here in terms of the breadth and depth of discovery. The issues does it play that would give her the opportunity to also push this back until after november. So the big question is, what happens with that january 6 case that is now of course, in the hands of the support cream court, not only for what they decide on the merits, live even sources and the trump camp say they dont expect to win on the merits, but also for how long it takes them to decide. We widely expect we wont get it decision there until late june and then use their space on the calendar judge, Tanya Chutkan has been bullish about bringing that case to trial. The Justice Department today open the possibility of that they would be willing to try him even in september or october when judge chutkan be open to that or this lets go back to the Supreme Court. Judge gertner, i mean, there are legitimate questions about the classified material at the heart of this case. That is a complicating factor in the florida case. It is a complicating factor, but one of the things that is clear usually a new judge facing a classified documents case usually seeds to the prosecution. I dont think that thats necessarily a good thing, but, uh, but thats what happens, will usually defer to the prosecutions view of what should be classified after all what judges schooled and National Security issues. The irony of this case is that this is a judge whos doing just the opposite, whose tilting to the defense rather than tilting to the prosecution. They were complicated issues. But this is in one sense the easiest of all the cases. So these are case, these these are issues that could have been resolved, but shes really inviting briefing and hearings on things that frankly, i dont think any other judge would have done. Theres a law called the Classified Information procedures act, sipa, which dictates how Classified Information can be used in criminal trials. There have to be pretrial proceedings if judge cannon wanted to move this case along, she could have gotten going on the secret proceedings already. She hasnt. And there are lots of motion stacking up that will give the defense, but delay one of the prosecutors and the special counsels office to argue that this doj policy, which is discourages of investigation 60 before an election doesnt apply by here. Well, technically it doesnt apply because it applies to investigative steps indictments, search warrants. It doesnt speak of trials because judges decide on the scheduling of trials. But the spirit of that policy is on is at issue, and the judges are going to have to struggle with that if proven. Thank you. Paula reid, nancy gertner, as well we have an the georgia case and closing arguments, not in the trial itself, but remarkable Court Proceedings about whether the District Attorney, fani willis, should still be on the case. 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And this is cnn the fate of georgias rico case against the former president and others is now in the judges hands after a pretrial proceedings which lasted longer than some trials do judge scott mcafee now must decide whether Fulton County District Attorney fani willis is former relationship with the prosecutor, nathan wade, and their testimony about it disqualifies her from the case more now, from cnns Jessica Schneider these people, your honor, is a systematic misconduct and they need to go sparks continued to fly today as lawyers for donald trump and others charged in the case, are you that Da Fani Willis hired nathan wade, a Special Prosecutor when they were romantically involved, and then she benefited financially from the trips they took and the dinners they shared she put her boyfriend in the spot, paid him, and then reap the benefits from it that she created the system and then didnt tell anybody about it. Willis testified last month insisting the relationship began after wade was appointed to lead the trump case and argued she paid him back for any expenses in cash when i started dating mr. Wade, april 2020 2022, around i dont know, growing up, my daddy had three safes are now though my fathers bought me a lockbox and i always keep cash in the house. When youve on a date, should have cash in your pocket judge scott mcafee did have some tough questions for the attorneys pushing to remove willis and her team. If someone buys their boss a stick of gum, is that per say, disqualify . It may not meet had materiality requirement, but its a personal benefits to the judge. Also asked if disqualification would really be the right remedy or if any wrongdoing would just require hi a reprimand from the legal bar. The proposition youre putting forward now is that if a representative, the state lead prosecutor, the District Attorney, themselves so something thats untruthful on the record, that is something that immediately as to be proactively policed by the trial court. Basically, what im getting at is wearing the law that we find the remedy to an untruthful statement generally we send you down the street to, the bar. Lawyers for the District Attorneys office insists there is absolutely no Conflict Of Interest. Its absurd. We have absolutely no evidence that ms willis received any financial gain or benefit. The testimony was that ms willis paid all of the money back in cash. You can judge mcafee says he will make a decision about disqualification within two weeks Jessica Schneider, cnn, washington perspective now from cnn legal analyst joey jackson and atlanta former Georgia State senator jen jordan so joe, i mean, in these closing arguments, just kind of a shift from trying to prove a Conflict Of Interest to a perceived conflict yeah, it wasnt only that, but i was surprised at the way the bar really was extended by the defense. It was about well, is it an actual column . Affleck to your point . Is it a perceived conflict . Is it about her Church Speech as they mentioned, and the extra judicial statements and what impact that had. Is it about the fact that she hired her boyfriend . Is it that she benefited . That is her boyfriend benefit did cheap asking a wide net. It was a very wide net and i think they would doing that right to point to perception, point to fraud, point to an undermining and distrust of the system. I think edison going back to really what the inquiries of the judge war, who i think has conducted himself tremendously throughout this process, is what really is the remedy. So lets just say, for example, that you do establish that the prosecutor misrepresented the nature of the relationship, the timeframe some other relationship and mr. Wade the two Special Prosecutor and prosecutor, lets just say, for example, there was some financial i mean, i dont know. It seems to me when someone earns money, its their money they could do what they want, but be that as it may just say, for example, they that all of that to me, the integrity of the process is about the underlying indictment. Was it presented to a grand jury properly when presented . Was the what are the facts that were presented to the grand jury . Can they be legally sustained . Does it make out a case and a claim against the now 14 defendants plus the president , former president of the United States. And so in essence, what youre left with is, is this appropriate . I mean, its been very entertaining in terms of reality tv, but does it really . Fleck the core issues that were grappling with and whether an indictment should be dismissed, predicated upon some conduct that they were engaged, some dalliance that was engaged in jen, i want to play Something Else from trumps lawyer today. Lets listen you asked her, you know, whats personal interests. I think frankly as i was trying to figure this out, i think you know what, when you see it, i think you know what when you see it. I think theres enough facts in front of you that, you know what, when you see it so i think that the governing principle helps enlighten some of the facts here jim, do you think that was a convincing argument that the note when you see that kind of line of reasoning no i think that shows you that they knew that they dont have enough that they havent actually been able to present the case that but they said that they were going to be able to put up for the judge when they made their initial proffer and to go back what joe was saying, they were talking about is it this is it that really trying to do this broad brush, trying to make it look like that, that everything that the District Attorneys office touch somehow was tainted in some way. But the reality is by doing that and kind of just, you know, just throwing it all together. It really shows that they cant point to specific evidence but thats with respect to the disqualification. And they really cant meet the legal bar and at the end of the day, thats what the judge is worried about, right . Thats what the judges concerned about. And they just have not been able to bring the evidence that was promised initially by Ashleigh Merchant enjoy you hear the judge saying that suggesting that the georgia bar might be the more appropriate venue for any questions about fani willis is behavior i mean, i dont think thats an unreasonable suggestion by the judge. The reality is is that we have a case here involving these 14, 15 defendants. Again, including the president , three lorries already being pled guilty and someone else. Did they do what was alleged . Did does that indictment stan to the scrutiny remember this a process . The process before you actually can be indicted, there are people who hear this. Is there probable cause to believe a crime was committed in that you committed it . Thats an essential core of our system. Then you have a trial where theres 12 people that sit in judgment to determine did you do it Beyond A Reasonable Doubt . Is that impaired in any way by all of this salacious activity . And if its not, then perhaps if you made misrep misrepresentations, if you had an undo our relationship that you shouldnt if you reported less than 100 or whatever that youre supposed to in a financial form, maybe thats the Bar Association and creon not an inquiry for him. And the judge suggested earlier that he could decide the case as soon as today after todays hearing. Is that a rule within two weeks. Do you read anything into that . No, i think hes just being incredibly careful. Look, he was trying to make sure even when you would listen to him today in terms of his questions one of the attorneys would make a statement about some piece of evidence and he would back up and said, well, wait a second, i dont think that was actually admitted and so i think for his purpose this is he wants to be very, very careful that in terms of what order that he issues, that he is only talking about evidence that was admitted, that hes not just listening to argument or whatever people are kinda pushing over the line in terms of innuendo in innuendo or gossip hes being incredibly careful and hes doing exactly what he needs to do to make sure that whichever way he goes on this is that his order actually will be defensible because of the end of the day. He is there to make a decision with respect to the integrity of the judicial system in the court. And i think hes hes going to make i think hes going to make the right decision and right now, looking at the evidence thats come in, i dont think that there is any evidence that actually would justify the disqualification at the das office now, injured and thanks very much, joe jackson as well, coming up. Really remarkable sight, Thousands Lining Streets in moscow to pay their last respects to Alexey Navalny, the russian dissident. One mourner compared to Nelson Mandela or Martin Luther king junior. Our Matthew Chance was there. He joins us next from from russia and russian prodemocracy leader Garry Kasparov joins us in his First Television interview since navalnys death an Important Message for americans age 50 to 85 my gosh youre still using moms old coffee pot. Its my inheritance. Well, it is a family heirloom. Know what the kids can just sell it to pay for my funeral. Its a good thing you have Life Insurance. 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Ahh is mutual mutual exactly two weeks after a still unexplained death in a Siberian Penal Colony and fears his family would never see his body. Thousands of mourners showed up in moscow today for the funeral of russian Opposition Leader Alexey Navalny so no to war can be heard in a country where dissent was effectively outlawed since the fullscale invasion of ukraine began. Matthew chance was in moscow for the funeral and he has this report they came in their thousands to pay their last respects supporters of the late russian Opposition Leader Alexey Navalny, lining up outside the Moscow Church ahead of his funeral an act of bravery and defiance. In a country where dissent, even grief for kremlin critic is rarely tolerance let, let me ask you about the risks because the authorities have not particularly welcomed this event. People have been detained for paying their respects to Alexey Navalny you concerned about the risk you are taking all why . Because its my slogan not to think about risks do what you should do do you hold putin responsible for the death of alexey or yes. Definitely. No doubt. No doubt kremlin denies it. They say that they said eve of the arrows, see they agree with what they have done bad i would be the first lord all right. Well, this is the hearse, the van, which is taking the body of Alexey Navalny into this church on the outskirts so moscow, where russia will finally bid farewell to one of his most prominent Opposition Figures. You can see thousands of people from all over the region of turned 82 page hey, their respects, cracking as his body enters for that Funeral Service are you surprised that youll forces of a loud disputes to go ahead . I dont know what say about in regards i think it would be a huge mistake to not allowed to do it because theres so many well be able and they came here to pay pay the last respect to aleksey and lxc for us and for me personally, was like i dont know russian Nelson Mandela or the russian Martin Luther king. So why people need may have silence, navalny but his name is now on everyones lips inside the church, the Funeral Service was shot was no political speeches, just blessings over his open casket later at the cemetery navalnys distraught parents kiss their 47 yearold son. Goodbye his wife and children concerned for their own safety stayed away but so many came in their place outside crowds of mourners waited patiently for our last glimpse. The cemetary gait still open for Russian Police on close guard here to finally wave them through, right . Well, this is the site inside the cemetery and the memorial to Alexey Navalny. People are coming here to lay their flowers and as you can see, and also to file past the hour actual gravesite, which is their people are picking up soil and throwing it into the ground onto the casket. As a final farewell to that Opposition Figure a figure who in death, as in life, is drawer it. Magazines of russians critical of the kremlin onto the streets Matthew Chance joins us from moscow. Its so moving. Matthew Alexey Navalnys daughter, dasha, posted this picture on instagram of her dad, where she called them her role model, her hero and said, i promise you that i will live my life the way you taught me to make you proud. What else did his family have to say today . And the people you talked to was theyre concerned about speaking to you concerned that they could be detained for being there for this for his funeral well, im Alexey Navalnys wife, Yulia Navalnaya made a very poignant statement which he posted on social media as the as the funeral took place, basically thanking navalny for 26 years is of absolute happiness. I dont know how to live without you. She said, but ill try to do so so that you up there can be happy and proud of me. And of course, Yulia Navalnaya has essentially taken on the mantle of her husband and has vowed to continue his opposition work has already made some very important speeches to do. Thats one of the reasons why she hasnt going back to russia because there are fears for her safety in terms of the safety of people at the funeral . Yeah. I mean, there were real concerns in russia, hundreds of people have been arrested over the past couple of weeks just for Laying Flowers at makeshift memorials. But this was a moment where people felt that despite their fears, they had to come out at least on this occasion. And be brave and say goodbye to somebody who for Many Russians was it was a key figure, an important figure, a figure of hope and the janice, thank you so much joining me now as russian prodemocracy leader Garry Kasparov, author of winter is coming hello, Vladimir Putin in the enemies of the free world must be stopped seeing those images today. What went through your mind i dont know what was stored its probably i can say that these people in the streets, moscow in few hours, they showed more courage than western politicians on both sides, atlantic for two years. Alexey good, could be probably a lot if if here in washington and brussels in berlin, other capitals, there was a political will to stop putin as soon as there was a chance, ukrainians already a year ago. But the delay was military aid with was financial package protracted the war and you could see putin this happen. And the fact is that less is dead. Its a message from putin because he failed to kill him in secret. And swiftly, we know this is the Poison Attempt that failed, but alex barely made it. So he was saved by miracle and then taken to germany when they just recovered. And now puts him kill him slowly and in front of the whole world and one thing went over. Sure. We dont know all the details of this murder. And of course it was a murder. But we know that putin wanted the world to know about it because they could have kept this news for themselves, for few days for week they immediately inform the world and it happened on the first day of Munich Security Conference. So thats that cannot be interpreted any any other way. But i did it i want you to know that because nothing will happen to me and of course, unfortunately, those right again, President Biden, three years ago promised devastating consequence for russia. If navalny would die in prison whats happened . They announced new sanctions. Who cares . Do you think the sanctions have had any impact on russia they have some impact clearly, you cannot say that sanctions are not working at at all, but fundamentally, they just, you know, they they are not damaging the war machine oil. Its a gas, its, its these two main items of russian budget. They are not sanctions due to damage putin, financial flow this oil through being traded, and you look at, look at the provinces that russia is making more money from selling oil and gas than, than that and before, later in the program where we have a piece from Nick Paton Walsh on the frontlines in ukraine where in a position where ukraine artillery in the Counter Offensive were firing. I think it was at shells a day. Now, there can only fire about ten because they just dont have the ammo because republicans in Congress Passed me here. Oh, all time. And again oh, the gdp of the nato countries versus russia, iran, north korea, this, this, this coalition or from axis of evil is 25 to one who cares if russia again can, can fire 67 times more shells. Notice that ukrainian, north korea provided more shells to russia, that the entire europe you tell telling me, thats the polish zeros, ukrainians, a bleeding defending their country, freedom, nader. And also they trying to stop this, this, this money and the free world is still contemplating how we can deal with that and putin look at him a couple of days ago, he delivered his speech and he was happy and always talks about, oh, lets wait for russian people to rise navalny tried. He tried to show that something could be done in russia. It was im not sure was politically smart move, but you cannot criticize acts of personal harrys he paid was his life that again wards, wards and words the day he was noted, putin had to pay 300 billion of russian money is frozen. What are you waiting for . President biden . Europeans. What were debating. The crime must be punished. And as us today, putting believes that he will ever be known exactly how he died do we care . Its the governors murder. The moment they moved him from a colony in siberia into the colony beyond Arctic Circle in winter. In his conditions in mass prison, who spent and hundreds and hundreds of days in solitary confinement. That was already just a clear message. Exactly. So then it was a matter of time. But again, they did it in purpose just at the Opening Ceremony of Munich Security Conference tell me what else . Again, its its happened god knows where they could have seized on this news for few days and then really know they just wanted to make it so publicly. And again, waiting for the response, by the way hundreds of thousands Political Prisoners in the world down, they are in danger because they saw what putin did and put believes hes a kind of, this is a spiritual leader of all the gangsters, Terrorist Thugs and dictators, new world. I killed my main political opponent wealth, fame table mentioned Nelson Mandela of courses or Martin Luther king. And whats happened to me, nothing. Go ahead, kill others. Characters, purpose kentucky year. Thank you. Coming up next Breaking News from the white house when President Biden is now saying about Hostage Talks involving israel and hamas also Major Development that us military will airdrop aid and other supplies into gaza. Plus the message for lawmakers on capitol hill from a soldier on the battlefield in ukraine. Tonight your skin is ever changing. 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Find it at walmart United States of scandal with jake tapper tomorrow at nine on cnn some more Breaking News and i present biden has made new comments about Hostage Talks between israel and hamas. He also announced that the us military will airdrop humanitarian aid and supplies into gaza. Want to go to cnns mj lee at the white house. So what more do you know about this us plan for aid drops . Well, anderson, the president , offered a very dire assessment of the humanitarian crisis in gaza, saying that the amount of aid that is going in is simply not enough. Its just a drop in the bucket in terms of what the people there need and the president said that israel is not doing enough that it needs to do a lot more to open up these humanitarian corridors and provide a lot what more aid into the strip. And he said in the meantime, the us is going to begin air dropping food and aid and other basic necessities into the strip. And that the us is also considering opening up a maritime corridor as well. Now, these airdrops we were told could begin in a matter of days and the white house has made clear the just sticks right now figuring out exactly how that would be executed is incredibly challenging. Now, of course, the white houses view as well right now, is that a temporary ceasefire would be incredibly helpful in terms of surging the amount of humanitarian aid that can get into gaza. But as you know, anderson for weeks and weeks, us officials have been intimately involved in trying to mediate the ongoing negotiations between israel and hamas to get to this temporary ceasefire that has been incredibly challenging and very touching. Go. And in fact, President Biden told me a little bit about where these talks currently stand before he left the white house. A few minutes ago, this is what he said do you think there will be a ceasefire deal by ramadan im hoping so were still working real hard at are not there yet. What is, what is the biggest holdup right now . Im not going to start with that because that again involved when my go now, the reason we are talking about ramadan as a potential deadline is because that is when anderson, israel has said that it would expand its Military Operations into rafah in southern gaza. This is a scenario that of course us officials are very much wanting to avoid boyd. And what would happen with the deal is the beginning of a sixweek pause in the fighting for starters, but us officials have made very clear that that is something that they would like to build on. They would first begin with a sixweek pause in the fighting and then just build that out and potentially add more weeks to the pause in the fighting and the eye towards sort of ending the war. Ultimately, that of course, is the end goal for us officials here. Mj lee. Thank you. Coming up next ukraine and were seen as Nick Paton Walsh saw on the front lines where ammunition is low one soldier has a message for one know, even tree cover means safety the following to defend the tiny gains of ukraines Counter Offensive. But now they are outgunned by Russian Troops trying to surge forward you can hear how many shells they fire back no usaid means ukrainians risk losing right here. Right now now what im saying, this felt like theyre fighting really was the one hand behind their back. Such a shortage . Of shelter to get to do that if theyre lucky, about ten times day back in the summer Counter Offensive, they would fire at a day katz down in the bunker. It is strange to hear men who live underground to avoid death be so familiar with republican procedural dysfunctionality, body to rescue blue can skate park in users in europe bourdon, the former who claim in bucha mobile now of tomlin is live do you have a message for people in washington those are those them to the promo one and im grinding punchup particular gil should scenario gypsy kid gets better than the cube national that drone footage, shows the remains of last nights failed russian assault. This is what was a key prize in the Counter Offensive the tiny village of robatina, still ukraines, but now another front line where russia is hitting back hard. This thermal night imagery shows their latest bleak tactic. Its quite a Bike Carrying three russians charging at the front lines to simply see how far it can get, monotonous job militia ambitious course, jim, the Question Care was initially if new technique they started the Letter U Squad Novosti but as well per dollar on the plan on the courage shop. But at some a year my him the huge the blood this a 3d printer to make tiny components for about ten attack drones a day without more artillery. They say only these drones hold russia back here it is a bleak and fierce fight, which has moved the nearby town and of orahiv russian airstrikes have left it looking like defeat rather than the symbol of ukrainian tenacity. It is, but its time we come back here. Its just worse and worse than you just dont even really imagine what people could do to survive here or what is really he worked left fighting over and on the road out these are stark warning. Ukraine is preparing for bad news. Six months ago, they were trying to surge forward with new Western Armor here now, they prepare to lose only one thing changed. And it was in washington, not in their hearts and nick joins us now. I mean, its incredible to see just going from 80 shells de, that they were able to fire during the Counter Offensive to just ten now, and that 3d printer theyre also very aware of whats going on in washington, dc and what the holdup is yeah. I mean, lets be honest. Now, theres no real sign of how that hold up gets cleared. Right. And when were dealing with such infinite amount of dysfunctionality that i think many ukrainians here are beginning to consider. The likelihood of that us aid arriving to be remote. And it leads them to an exceptionally pessimistic and bleak few weeks ahead, potentially, you saw there they are literally running out of shells to fire. Thats on the situation that is sort of indefinitely sustainable. They are fighting an affine, less and less ammunition at hand to hold the russians back the russians on their half appear to have quite the opposite problem where they see, as you saw there, to have Relentless Resources to throw it, assaults that village of robatina. Well, after we were there watching the Artillery Unit that night, another intense assault for russia even claimed as ministry of defense, it has taken key buildings in that village, were assured that simply one of the multiple nights they try and get in and they get pushed back. But across the front line and were seeing russia willing to throw huge amounts of troops and ammunition comparatively small targets. But the cumulative effect of that is a feeling in multiple locations that ukraine isnt really able to stabilize the front line in a way that necessarily we would like. They may get a chance at that in the weeks ahead. But moscow to may also keep some sense of momentum going. And i hate to tell it, but it feels like were entering into a different phase of the war here, where the dysfunctionality of that Republican Led Congress is translating into real concrete territorial losses here in ukraine closing in frankly, on a bit of a nightmare scenario, and nick, thank you so much. Be careful still ahead, avalanches, Whiteout Conditions, and up to 12 feet of snow. The latest in a lifethreatening blizzard in california. Next cnn Saturday Mornings starting today at eight on cnn, not flossing well, then add the wo of listerine to your routine. New science shows listerine is five times more effective than plus et reducing plaque above the gum line for a cleaner, healthier mouth. 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What a tremendous storm i love snow perhaps more than the average individual about yes, everyone says that about me, but even this is a little bit too much feet, 12 feet and you know what, if that falls and it actually happens and it occurs over a threeday span, it will be the largest threeday snowfall in california history. The largest ever was about a little bit more than 11 feet. You see that there if we get more than six feet in individual day, that will be the largest in one day ever. So is this actually . So you the longterm beneficial to california because there were droughts and then there was a lot of rain and its very confusing. Yes. You know, obviously lifethreatening conditions thats not something want to play around with, but part of whats driving the storm has the El Nino Pattern and the only new pattern brings a wetter than normal conditions to california. And if you recall, over the last few years old, even talking about is this drought in california now on and on and on. And last year, the vast majority of california was under drought, over 80 of california was under a drought. Today, less than 10 of californias under drought. So, and that sense, it is actually good news for california. So ive been hearing about it for 40 years. I should know what own nino is and i still its a warming of the water in the central pacific. I dont know what that means. Yeah. So what was weather camp. Tell me about Whether Cannon what was weather camp . Everyone to weather camp. How old were you when you were . Whether i believe i was 14 and turning 15 or 15, turning six Something Like that. So i was a young lad at weather and weather camp was just i actually thought that was skewing a little old for weather camp i mean, you know what, i guess maybe i was one of the older kids at weather camp, but i was always like that was always a little bit behind. But what i recall most about whether camp this just gives you an idea. We visited the National Weather service, we visited accuweather, and what i recall about Visiting Accuweather was they had All Of Us Go Up and this was the early days of the internet. We walked up ken reeves rip to him, but he was a great guy and he essentially had us record messages for home and these kids would come up and theyd give like to second spiels. What is this i i was looking at the Microfiche Machine and this article was boys call a total snowdrop. This is an article about you and your 15 years old describing it as a selfdescribed whether freak that you email your findings on a snow fall in riverdale, new york to the National Weather service and people turned against you. People turned against me. They thought weathermen, were calling you a liar. They thought that i was inflating Snowfall Totals that you would get out of going to school, which was complete garbage because fact is this happened over the weekend. How would this actually work . It happened on a Saturday Storm was a friday and saturday. I was going out there measuring look, im not going to say it was stormed field measuring the snow out. There experts said the National Weather service said harrys method was thorough and base their official snowfall total, but weathermen, the who you said you idolized, they were questioning gregory im fox who still earn their chat rooms. What year was this . This was 20030. You were 15 in 2003 . Yeah. Does that make you feel old or young . My god, im i always think that i think i come across it. So you were 65, might not know. No, no, 65, 65. And my soul and now at 05 00 a. M. I its all of his 20 years ago. You in 2000 and what you were what . 2003 i was 15 back then. Wow. Yeah. I was i was 15 in 2003 and i was measuring the snow and then i went to weather camp a year later. Yeah, i was truly it was a great time though and you know what the kids love me at school because i was the weather guy. What we said, what were you born . I guess that would make me 1988. Wow. And i graduated college. Isnt that scary . But you got it out to me because youre a deep reporter whos investigative and you were able to dig out that your age. You dont think i hate telling my age. I always say im like roughly between 25. 40. You actually say, yeah absolutely. Youre out on a date now. You have a beloved now. But before when youre dating and people would lady would say, whats your how old do you say . Im between 25 and it wasnt until the third date where i revealed my age. I had to really get to know them. Harry enten, thanks. The news continues right here on cnn how do i do it with a little help and to support my familys immune health. 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