United states of scandal with jake tapper sunday at nine on cnn it is a wolverine kinda night, the crucial president ial Battleground State of michigan is weighing in tonight on the 2024 fight for the white house, sending messages just to both President Job for biden and donald trump. I head of their anticipated rematch in november. If youre just joining us, greetings, im jake tapper and im standing right in the cnn election center. President biden and former President Trump or both michigan primary winners tonight, but thats not the full story of these very significant context. I want you to take a look at the votes in the democratic race. Its a warning sign for President Biden there a protest vote for uncommitted gaining ground now this protest vote pushed by opponents of how President Biden is handling the israel hamas war. Many of them desire a permanent ceasefire and theyre demanding that the United StatesGovernment Cut military aid to israel. Lets take a look at these numbers with 19 of the estimated vote in President Joe Biden expectedly has 79. 6 of the vote. Thats a big chunk. 154,000 votes. Hes clearly the winner of the nights contest. He has 125,914 votes more than the number two which is uncommitted with 14. 7 of the vote 28,662 votes in the rear, dean philips, congressman 2. 8 of the vote. But what i want you to understand is that normally in a primary 20,000 people will Vote Uncommitted we only have about 20 of the vote in. Weve already far surpassed that so there is gonna be a Sizeable Protest Vote tonight that the biden team is going to have to contend with and worry about because in november it could come down to just you. Now some votes, remember, trump won michigan with only 10,000 votes in 2016, biden won in 2020, 154,000. So that uncommitted, thats an Important Group of folks. Now, lets look at the republican side. Donald trump has scored another decisive win against nikki haley. This house and closer to the republican president ial nomination with these blockbusters, Super Tuesday contests, just one week away. So trumps dominance is clear, but haley is arguing that mr. Trump is failing to unite the Republican Party. And she continues to peel away much of the republican vote. Lets take a look at that 20 of the estimated vote in donald trump has we expected, is in the lead. He is the projected winner, 66. 5 of the vote. He has 192,009 he had her ten votes. Thats 109,777 votes ahead of nikki haley, who has 28. 6 of the vote. Thats 83,304. But as i noted earlier, it is important to remember than narrow margin of victory in michigan. Joe biden, no, no doubt about it, is going to be targeting these 83,304 people who dont want to vote for donald trump, even though hes clearly going to be their nominee. So lets. Talk about this all with john king, who was standing at the magic wall. And theres a lot going on here, even though for contests where there are two decisive victories i have to say there is a lot going on here. Weve said this throughout the primary so far about former President Trump, but were going to say tonight about President Biden, even as you see their strengths they both candidates have considerable strength. On nights like this, you also see their weaknesses, or at least there are places where they need to do repair slips are showing that 15 , 15 of the vote tonight, you have a democratic incumbent president , 3 voting for congressman phillips. So if you just want to say, i want someone else, you had an opportunity. This is an im mad at you. Its a protest vote the bulk of it, the bulk of that is about the israel Hamas Conflict and the view of Arab Americans, Younger Voters and others, liberals that the president is too quick to side with netanyahu not doing enough for the palestinians. The white house would argue, wait so long time since october 7, pay attention, but heres the president has repair work to do here. Its interesting repair work, you look at 15 in a key Battleground State that tends to pick our president s. So itd be one of the two or three to pick our presence. You say, wheres the problem . I would argue and were still waiting by the way, this is the most important part. How high does the number go . How high is the number of votes and the percentage statewide by the end of the night for uncommitted depends on wayne county and were nowhere in the count 4 of that is quite traditional. What are they doing that now . That is quite traditional. Ive been doing this a long time and wayne county, gary, indiana, i could go on, but well just stick with wayne county right now. Were in michigan. It takes them a long time to count the votes. So were waiting for that, but thats going to have a huge say both in your total number because its the Population Center and its also were dearborn as is detroit its dearborn. Total number and the percentage. But just to make a point here, if you look if you come up here just to look, lets just pick over here kent county, the suburbs, grand rapids in the suburbs around it, uncommitted here getting right now 12 of about 14 . So not saying thats, thats a wound or President Biden has asked hell but then you come here Debbie Dingell was just talking about this Washington County where the university is. Its above 20 . And so the targeted problem for the president is Younger Voters and the Arab Americans, Muslim Americans, people of Middle Eastern descent, 300,000 of them live in the state of michigan. Thats thats where in arberys or no . No. No . And arbors where i just showed you. Yes. This is where arborists yet and arberys here and i was on the University Of Michigan. Ive been on that campus and just its high, the anger, the temper, the frustration is high and you have people there saying a lot of academics to a lot academics, but a lot of young people, a lot of young people who voted for biden in 2020 some of whom say they are voting Uncommitted Tonight as a protest, theyre not donald trump fans. There was one young man we talked about. There is actually from georgia helped the aclu registered voters in 2020 to help joe biden win, who said hes going to Vote Third Party now he has the aisle. Its easy if people at home ago he has socialists leanings his way left. People go, oh, just one kid whatever hes a socialist, but in a competitive flexion, every vote counts, youll people say a lot of democrats say the same thing about trump voters speak of them and disparaging ways. You have one vote, i have one vote. They have one vote about whether the elections are close. Thats what matters. But you do see that thats why this wayne county vote is so important because you do see its 24 now early on. So the president has some healing to do and its very important in the state so close, it will be targeted mostly in the detroit area and on the College Campuses doesnt mean it doesnt exist elsewhere. But thats the biggest part of the problem. And jake, you see the same exact thing on The Other Side, the Haley Campaign, its hard to argue with their points tonight on committed, its getting 15 right now, and were saying Joe Biden Has some work to do. Well, shes getting think 30 and were saying thats an overwhelming win. Both things are true, but both things are true. He has some work to do to again, if you look at the map, wheres the work you come up with some of these rural counties, you just pick one out up here. Donald trumps getting 77 . The rural base of the trump party is still with trump. Then you come down to Macomb County here the blue collar base of the new Trump Republican Party is with donald trump. But then just drive a little bit, leaves slim shady, and come over here to the suburbs and look what happens. Nikki haley gets 30 in the suburbs. Donald trump still has, even as he rolls to the republican nomination still has weaknesses in american suburb. Thats why joe bidens president and just keep in mind, this is who turned out to vote, right . Its the people who turned out to vote. And its pretty clear. Im sure to everybody who voted today, the Donald Trumps going to be the nominee and they still turned out to vote for nikki haley. So in many ways voting for nikki haley, but in others, its a protest vote just as much as uncommitted. So how much of those uncommitted come home and how much a harder to either harder to get home or refused to come home. Its the very same question there. How many of those republicans who will vote for him in november, they just prefer her today. And how many ever saying okay. I cant vote for him. So once shes done, assuming thats silly if it happens unless theres a miracle, where did they go . If theres any good news for joe biden in this, it is some of these people are going to be gettable. Some of these nikki haley people are going to be good for biden. I dont know how many of the uncommitted people are going to be gettable for trump maybe for jill stein, maybe for cornell west, but for trump, i dont know the other thing is that nikki haleys number is much bigger. Lets lets go to dearborn. Now, the center of this protest movement, jeff zeleny is there covering the democrats and the protest for uncommitted the protest vote. Jeff, what are proponents of that protest vote saying about the results tonight as they come in . Jake, we have just stepped outside the event celebrating the success in their view of this uncommitted movement. Here we are in dearborn, of course, the heart of the Arab American and Muslim American population, sharon his john was talking, we are in wayne county, so those are the numbers that are still going to be coming in and that is likely to and it is going to add a significant margin to the uncommitted. But regardless of the final number, organizers here and supporters here, they believe they have already won a measure of success because they believe theyve sent a message loud and clear to President Biden, and indeed they have weve seen his language change in recent months. The question is, what do the voters and the organizers do from here forward, just a short time ago, the House Democratic floor, a leader of the Michigan State house. He said, we are going on to chicago. We are going to the Democratic National convention to protest in the streets this Antiwar Movement is growing. So that is not going to go away. This is something that is going to continue and it will be a soundtrack of this president ial campaign. There is no doubt about that. However, talking to another businessman who was just leaving this event, just a few moments ago, he said he voted uncommitted because he did want to register a protest vote i said, how will you vote in november . He said, i dont know. Once it becomes a choice, he said between President Biden and former president donald trump. He said he desperately wants to keep donald trump out of the white house. So he said that will be a difficult decision to make. I suspect that he sums up the sentiment of many rank and file of voters who voted Uncommitted Today. Of course, the organizers are committed to this cause, but this is something that is going to stay with the white house, stay with the president. Now, uncommitted votes are not necessarily an, a common occurrence. I remember thinking back to the 2012 campaign, barack obama also had some uncommitted on the ranks. The difference here is the substance of why it is committed. It is because of the war. Its because of the president s handling of the war. And that is a burning issue here that is so deeply personal and jake, that is not likely to change anytime soon unless there is a permanent ceasefire. And we all know how difficult that will be. Anti war protesters taking to the streets of chicago for the Democratic National convention. What could, what could go wrong . Jeff zeleny, thanks so much during our conversation now, the national cochair for the bidenharris president ial campaign and former Senior Adviser to President Biden former mayor of new orleans, mitch landrieu. If i used to be somebody, you is now youre saying here with us i get stuck on this panel this has a mouse afflecks from a group that is not happy with joe biden and they are making a point. Yeah. Well, make a point, please. 80 80 . I mean, thats the fourth one that weve been in. Joe biden had a really, really strong night tonight. You cant cut it any other way than that. That is not to say that the uncommitted vote wasnt substantial. The sending a message, the president , as you know, has gotten the message the president has sent the number of Senior Advisers out to michigan to talk about this. This is a very complicated issue. The president continues to make sure that we put american interests first and is working hard as you know on humanitarian aid, working on a ceasefire so that we can actually get the hostages out. And continues to listen to this very difficult pain that communities are going through all across the country, both in the Jewish Community and then muslim and the Palestinian Community as well. That message was, has been delivered. Its going to keep getting delivered in the president s going to continue to listen, but lets just make the point about what happened in michigan tonight. Donald trump got 66 of the vote. Nikki haley got 30, whatever she got, thats a Big Chunk Of Change and joe biden got 80 and uncommitted got 14. So you would much rather be joe biden tonight that donald trump, because at the end of the day, when people focus in on this race, its going to be joe biden in the future versus donald trump in the past. And people are going to really have to make a decision about what direction they want the country to go with the campaign initially sent up some Campaign Advisers and important people in michigan, like the mayor of dearborn said, no, i wanted to hear from the policy people. And then the white house said some policy people. Yeah. Once he going to go when the when is the president going to go . I dont know. Im sure at some time, many of us because they want to be heard and the way to be heard is to actually have all thats one way. Or when the french, when the first, i think when the Campaign Manager, when they said we really want to talk to people and as you know, the next week, they said yeah, it really three senior people and the meeting, although it was tough and it was hard, was it was a heartfelt meeting where the leaders took back to the white house with the thoughts what i was in michigan last week, i was in flint, michigan also was with some photos from the operating engineers. Ive talked to pastors in the Africanamerican Community. Weve to Law Enforcement got a great response, but to be clear, the president hears what it is that the folks in michigan to saying and what the uncommitted team is asking us to think about. And hes putting that into his thought about how to move forward on this very complicated, very difficult paul tissue, which as you know, were really not driving the train on. And it is not something thats going to be easy. You saw the president , i think yesterday getting ice cream. When somebody asked him, well, whats going on with this and he said, look, i expect from my advice is hopefully to have some news on great humanitarian aid. And then of course, hopefully at least attempt for receives fire so they can get the hostages out, which is a critical problem. But the president believes that people ought to voice their opinion. People in michigan to doing that. And of course, people across the country will continue to do that and he will take that into consideration as he moves forward on this very complicated and difficult issue, mr. Mayor, we just brought in this conversation now for a second, if i understand that the election is not until the fall, if the election more today with joe biden lose reelection, i dont think so. What is it about the state of michigan . Do you think it is behaving with its Battleground Status substantially different than some of the other Battleground States is, is it just this you should that were talking about as theres Something Else going on that you think that you and the team and wilmington see in the data that michigan somehow is proving more problematic for joe biden at this time in the campaign than some of the other battle. Well, thats an actual question. Ill leave it up to you guys who could run and gals, i can run the numbers be