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the world. i'm kasie hunt. it is december 7, 5:00 a.m. in washington, 4:00 a.m. in tuscaloosa, the site of the final gop debate last night ahead of iowa. and more importantly, the first primary contest, the caucuses of the 2024 race, will take place less than six weeks from now. what we saw last night was chris christie, nikki haley, ron desantis, vivek ramaswamy fighting to become the gop's top alternative, the number two, to the far and away frontrunner donald trump. >> i have delivered results. that is what we need for this country. >> we passed pro-life bills, we moved unemployment 11% to 3%. >> i think that i can reach the next generation. >> took a good 20 minutes before any one of the four said the obvious out loud. >> the fifth guy who doesn't have the guts to show up and stand here, he is the one who as you put it is way ahead in the polls. yet these three guys are all seemingly to compete with cold more, he who shall not be named. >> the name of course donald trump. without him on stage, nikki haley had a target on her back. >> you have a corruption problem. and i think that that is what people need to know. nikki haley is correct. >> her wall street liberal donors make money in china. they will not let her be tough on china. >> i love all the attention, fellas, thank you for that. >> with little to lose, chris christie put the focus back on trump and would not let up. >> is he fit to be president or isn't he? governor desantis, you're a smart man. you are not answering. is he fit? no. is he fit or isn't he? >> you have your thing -- >> i don't have my thing. you are talking about him being 80 years old. is he fit -- [ everybody talking at once ] >> wow. let's bring in our panel. former senior adviser to tim scott's presidential campaign, matt gorman, former white house deputy secretary sarah matthews and from bloomberg christian hall. good morning to all of you. i want to start with broad takeaways here. matt, i'll start with you. all eyes were on nikki haley and she handled this debate a little differently than she has in the past. is this something that will help her continue the momentum we've seen or were there moments that are not going to work in her favor? >> it was a little different for her than it was in the past. i was curious whether she'd be a little dismissive of the attacks that came her way or whether like the previous three receives able to strike back a little bit harder. she didn't really strike back as hard as she did the first three. i thought ron desantis actually got better as the debate went on. he landed some points on the exchange with her whether china or transgenderism. he is somebody who actually has gotten better in a relative sense over these last four debates. he stood out for me over the course of the night as someone who actually overperformed. >> interesting. i want to show everyone, you mentioned how people were going after nikki haley. as i watched some of these moments, it did seem to me that she kind of stepped back from the way she had taken on some of the attacks head-on in the previous debates, but she got some backup from chris christie, the new jersey governor, who honestly was back to form in this debate it seemed to me. but take a look at how christie defended nikki haley and sarah i'll ask you about it on the other side. >> we're now 125 minutes into this debate and he has insulted nikki haley's basic intelligence. not her positions. her basic intelligence. she doesn't know regions, she wouldn't be able to find something on a map that her 3-year-old could find. if you want to disagree on issue, fine. but i've known her for 12 years which is longer than he even started to vote in a republican primary, and while we disagree with some issues and we disagree with who should be president of the united states, what we don't disagree on is this is a smart accomplished woman and you should stop insulting her. >> pretty remarkable, sarah. >> yeah, i thought chris christie did a better job defending nikki haley's campaign and candidacy than he did his own honestly last night on stage. and i think that that speaks volumes. and i do think that maybe if i'm reading the tea leaves here if chris christie does end up dropping out, i know he said time and time again that he won't drop out before new hampshire, but if he does, or even if he drops out sometime after that, then i think that we could see potentially a nikki haley endorsement coming from him because he definitely had high praise for her. and she was definitely taking all the arrows last night and i thought that she performed well amongst all that pressure. and i do agree with matt though, it did seem like there was a change in strategy and i wonder if that was a decision by her team to just not punch down. because she obviously has the momentum on her side and has had the rise in the polls. and so it felt like she just chose to rise above it all and i thought she looked like the adult in the room. >> basically trying to say hey, thanks for paying so much attention and at one point she said you know what, no, i don't want to respond. there is no -- why should i give them the time of day basically. christian, i want to turn back to donald trump who obviously was not on the stage. and show a little bit more of this exchange where chris christie really pushed ron desantis on this question of whether or not donald trump was fit for office. take a look. >> is he fit or isn't he? >> you have your thing -- >> no, he is the thing. you are talking about him being 80 years old. is he fit? [ everybody talking at once ] >> let him -- >> he won't answer. >> he is almost 80 years old. >> he's afraid to answer. >> christian, i mean, christie is not wrong here. donald trump is in fact looming over this field despite his absence. what were your takeaways from this? >> absolutely. i mean, a really big part of chris christie's campaign was really focused on, you know, taking down donald trump. in big part through the debates. if you were christie, i'd be a little bit nervous though about how he is going to make it on the next debate stage or even how he is going to continue in the race. but i will say that the biggest obstacle for nikki haley in new hampshire is chris christie. so i thought it was really intriguing how he went into this defense of nikki haley on the debate stage last night. i think it was a little bit of a peek into what could happen if he does decide to step aside. >> yeah, no, i think that it is the question. i think that you put your finger right on it. and it was interesting to me that christie has been out there attacking -- trying some attack lines on nikki haley in television interview, but we didn't really see that on the debate stage. gary tuchman has been spending time during these debates hanging out with iowa voters which kind of gives us a bit of an interesting window into how this is being received. not by those of us here who work and breathe this all the time, but by the likely caucusgoers that will make some of the decisions here. take a look at a little bit of what gary learned from voters last night as this was unfolding. watch. >> who thinks christie won the debate? zero of the eight. who thinks desantis won the debate? one of the eight. who thinks haley won the debate? one, two, three, four, five, six. who thinks ramaswamy won the debate? zero. >> pretty telling there. not a single hand goes up when he asked if christie won the debate and many when asked about whether nikki haley did. that really does seem to me to be the dynamic right now in this race. and raises further questions about what chris christie does in the context of new hampshire. >> sure. and i guess my question would be he is at 11%. he is not at 2% or 3%. at the end my boss senator scott was. and so really if you are him, there is no real reason to get out yet. as long as you are polling at that level, polling above desantis in new hampshire, i think one of the things that caught my eye, and i didn't watch the whole segment with gary, was whether votes were changed. i think in large part to have a game changing moment. what i mean by that, a moment that actually changes the polls in large part. not just 4% to 7%. i think what hamstrung a lot of the debates, without trump on the stage, you can't have a moment like christie kneecapping marco rubio or elizabeth warren going after michael bloomberg in 2020 on his settlements. so i think what you need do, to make real lasting polling changes, you need everybody there. without that, you have these small incremental increases only. >> a very good point and of course again no trump -- without trump, how we won't leare can't learn whether or not things can actually fundamentally change here, which of course his team knows. we'll have more with this panel later. i'm grateful for all of you being up early with us this morning. this up next, police in las vegas identify the suspect in a deadly shooting at unlv, what makes this gunman different. plus secretary of state antony blinken offering praise and criticism on the israel-hamas war and what is next for kevin mccarthy. just week after losing his speaker's gavel, he is out. welcome back. secretary of state antony blinken offering new perspective on the israel-hamas war. speaking on the king charles program last night, blinken praised israel for taking what he called important steps to better protect civilians in southern gaza. at the same time he says more needs to be done describing the death toll as gut wrenching. clare sebastian is live with more. what does blinken say he wants to see? >> reporter: yeah, we've heard this from him before, but he said we can't have a repeat of what happened in the north in the south. this is something that he's said on a recent visit to israel. he said that there were positive signs from israel in the latest stage, that they are designating safe area, that they have this new system that he alluded to where you can look at a qr code and it shows you which neighborhoods that you need to evacuate from and where to. but he said more needs to be done, they need safe corridors for people to move to the safe areas, once they get there, there needs to be enough food and water and medicine. so i don't think that he has a conclusion yet on whether things are different now in the south. certainly that is what we heard from the state department spokesperson on wednesday saying that it is still early days. they wouldn't say whether or not things are actually different in how israel is conducting the war at the moment. and of course something to bear in mind in terms of protecting civilians, it just got harder now that they have moved to the south because this is where so many of the civilians from the north have already evacuated to, kasie. >> clare sebastian, thank you very much for that report. up next, the u.s. military just grounded an entire fleet of aircraft after a deadly crash. we'll tell you why. and more of nikki haley catctching heat t at last ninig rerepublican d debate. quick hits across america. police have identified a 67-year-old college professor as the suspected gunman behind the deadly shooting at the university nevada las vegas. three people were killed and a fourth person was injured. no word yet on a motive. pentagon is grabbing its entire fleet of osprey aircraft following the deadly crash in japan which claimed the lives of eight air force members. preliminary investigation found technical problems with the aircraft. a nevada grand jury has indicted six people for allegedly acting as fake quleek tors working to overturn joe biden's election win in 2020. the state's attorney general saying we can't allow attacks on democracy go unchallenged. all right. time now for weather. the powerful storm drenching the pacific northeast is pushing east bringing the threat of severe weather and even tornados to the southern plains. let's get straight to our weatherman derek van dam. good morning, always great to have you. what should people be looking out for today? >> i think residents across the pacific northwest are going to be happy to say finally good-bye to this atmospheric river that brought the flooding and deluge of rain and snow recently. but no one across the deep south wants to have the sloppy seconds. this storm will bring that energy to the gulf coast states and produce the severe weather threat that you mentioned. first on friday, this is more of a hail threat across arkansas, northeast texas, southwestern portions of oklahoma. and check this out, i want you to see how the threat increases for the day saturday. so we're trying to give you a head's up because we are looking for the potential at least for some severe thunderstorms that could become a bit cyclonic, meaning that they could have some twists in the atmosphere, maybe a tornado or two popping up, but that is for the day saturday. again the hail threat on friday. this is the storm system that has brought havoc across the northwest, it is coming to an end, but cooler weather behind it is allowing for the changeover from rain to snow. so a few inches of snow across the spine of the rockies. but notice how that transfer of energy moves across the eastern half of the country. picks up a bit of gulf moisture and then we start to see the thunderstorms fire up because we get the collision of air masses. and then along the east coast, this weekend, saturday into sunday, this will be a major rainmaker and potential windmaker for many of the east coast cities. so if you are traveling out of d.c., new york or boston, you could have travel plans interrupted this weekend. snow will stay north of i-95, but overall, a wet weekend. i do believe thursday and friday. so today and tomorrow will be dry, but saturday and sunday, that is a different story for the east coast. you can see the high parked across the southeast, that is bringing the pleasant conditions to atlanta and charlotte, but it is that storm system across the northwest that will change the southwest forecast going forward. here is a quick look at the temperatures. kasie for you once again 48 and beautiful in the nation's capital. >> lovely, but looks like i'll have to exhaust my children inside this weekend. derek, thank you very much. up next here, four republican presidential todays facing off to become the party's second choice after former president trump. we'll have a look at the debate's most memorable moments. and former house speaker kevin mccarthy says he is resigning from congress. how he says he wants to serve america in new ways, ahead. good morning, thanks for being up early with us. i'm kasie hunt. with the iowa caucuses less than six weeks away, four candidates went after each other on a heated and sometimes insulting debate stage. they sparred over a number of issues trying to set themselves apart to become the number two to frontrunner donald trump. trump of course skipped all four debates including this one. and his absence loomed large. >> the fifth guy, who doesn't have the guts to show up and stand here, he is the one who as you just put it is way ahead in the polls. and yet i've got these three guys who are all seemingly to compete with voldemort, he who shall not be named. >> nikki haley who has gained momentum in recent months became a target for ramaswamy and desantis. >> her donors, these wall street liberal donors, they make money in china. they are not going to let her be tough on china and she will cave to the donors. >> i don't have a woman problem. you have a corruption problem. and i think that that is what people need to know. n nikki is corrupt. >> governor haley, would you like to respond? >> no, it is not worstth my tim to respond to him. >> and chris christie saying his rivals are afraid to take on trump. >> i think that we have an opportunity to have somebody who we don't have to worry about. >> he won't answer. >> he's almost 80 years old. >> he is afraid to answer. >> no, i'm not. >> either you are afraid or you are not listening. >> no, it is not. >> a simple question. is he fit? [ everybody talking at once ] >> let's talk more about this. thanks for being here. christie fiery there. he also pointed out the multiple felony indictments against trump. this is really the big question looming over this field. he has skipped all of these debates. do you think that what we saw play out on that stage last night moved the needle at all? >> it is hard to say. i think that what we saw on stage is that nikki haley was cemented as the ascendant candidate for a constant second place. christie is really the only one to say you should vote for me instead of voting for trump. from haley and desantis, we hear sort of the measured criticisms and then you have someone like vivek ramaswamy saying january 6 was an inside job. so there is not really this concerted effort among all the candidates to try to draw that contrast and now we're just a few weeks away from iowa and the time period to sort of make that distinction has probably already passed. but they are clearly not taking advantage of it on the debate stage. >> arit, what did you take away from christie? he aggressively defended nickki haley against attacks in particular from vivek ramaswamy. i think that that leads to speculation that he might be willing to get out of the race and back nikki haley even though he's said that is not the plan. >> yeah, he could be looking to sort of say like, you know, haley -- of the people on stage, haley might be the person that he is the most sympathetic to or the one that he could stomach seeing advance further. i think the other thing too, vivek ramaswamy has really come across as very annoying to a lot of the candidates and to a lot of republicans. and so going against vivek ramaswamy and saying like hey, what you are saying is unfair, like you are attacking someone's character, going after him probably makes christie look good too. >> i appreciate your directness. sometimes it can be difficult to talk about that and there is a lot of that sentiment certainly in the private conversations i'm having about people and how they feel that -- they don't enjoy vivek's presence on the stage. but it can be hard to stay. arit john, thank you for your time this morning. and sarah, matt and christian are back with me to talk a little bit more about this. i want to keep the conversation all on the big picture here beyond the debate stage itself. yes, this was the last debate before the iowa caucus and the new hampshire primary in january. and again, i just want to repeat, this is still a race for number two to try to take on joe biden. and i want to bring kind of back to the big picture that we have been talking about with the recent comments that donald trump made about being a dictator on day one. republicans have said that his defenders have said that he was joking there. president biden actually responded to some of this yesterday at a fundraiser. he did not speak on camera about it. but he basically said again that -- if we could put it up on the screen -- he says god bless me, what do you think that means when it comes to upholding federal truss t and treaty obligations. he was at a tribal event. and he says something else is at stake, future of american democracy, not a joke. and then matt, we heard on stage from chris christie about this. i want to show everyone what chris christie had to say. >> he's made it very clear there is no mystery to what he wants to do. he started off his campaign by saying i am your retribution. eight years ago, he said i'm your voice. this is an angry bitter man who now wants to be back as president because he wants to exact retribution. >> and let me put this question to sarah first and matt you can weigh in as well. sarah, you worked for donald trump and have since been outspoken in talking about the da

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