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plan to save them now that talks have broken down? plus a cold calculation israel defense forces say they are killing two civilians for every terrorist calling it a positive ratio. and the final four, gop reveals who made the debate stage tomorrow in alabama and who got left out. good morning to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm kasie hunt oig. it is 5:00 a.m. in washington, noon in gaza where israel has intensified their airstrikes in the south while expanding ground operations with battalions of tanks rolling across the region, that part of the region for the first time. u.n. officials are warning of an apocalyptic situation. nearly 1.9 million palestinians displaced, tens of thousands of them fleeing to the rafah crossing in the last two days. hamas run health ministry says that nearly 16,000 civilians have been killed since october 7. the idf says deaths of two civilians for every hamas mill tab -- militant is, quote, tremendously positive. and multiple u.s. officials say that hostage negotiations are unlikely to resume anytime soon. the white house reports one american woman and seven men remain unaccounted for. >> there are still intensive discussions among us, israel, qatar and egypt about how to best get traction on a strategy that will get all the hostages out. but of course for the united states, priority is to get the american hostages out. >> made melissa bell is joining us from paris. with the talks broken down, what is the next play for the hostages? >> reporter: i think that it is important to remember that even while the formal talks break done, there are still efforts going on behind the scenes in and around the talks that involve of course qatar, the united states and egypt, israel. and hamas. to try to figure out what can be done between israel and hamas to release the -- to secure the release of the remaining hostages. of course their fate very much in the balance, you mentioned the resumption of the fighting. furious bombardment of the entire gaza strip. 137 hostages remain in the hands of hamas. and of course for the united states, they are focused very much on that one american woman, seven american men. for now unaccounted for since the october 7 attacks. now, what we understand has been happening is that the aim is to get some kind of traction as you heard a moment ago so that the talks can resume around how to get the specifics of anyone further out. the trouble is of course given that breakdowns given the fighting, how difficult that is going to be to get everyone around that table. for the time being we're also hearing from the united states that they have very little hope that there could be anything like the similar deal we saw struck by the russians, other nations, thailand of course as well, who thinkde managed to speak directly to hamas, a feeling that there is no sense that hamas will want to do any favors to the united states. so furious negotiations still going on to try to get everyone back around the table in order that some kind of hope, some kind of solution can be found for these hostages. but for the time being, i think that very dim prospects and a great deal of gloom around what hope there might be that the situation will be unblocked. fundamentally this remains a blockage that is around the idf says hamas' inability to speak about what it had negotiated, which is the idea of the women hostages being released. the israeli position is that they will go no further with their discussions until hamas releases all of the women hostages, but the question at the heart of that of what it is that they will have to say about their time in captivity. >> yeah, and potentially very difficult things that we'll deciding into later in the hour. maelissa bell, thank you very much. here in washington, two house democrats planning to introduce a resolution con dende -- contedemning the use of sexual abuse and rape. >> rape is horrific, sexual assault is horrific. i think that it happens in war situations, terrorist organizations like hamas are using these as tools. however i think that we have to be balanced about bringing in the outrages against palestinians. >> i spoke with debbie dingell about this and here is what she told me. >> i'll talk to her. i have a call into her. i think that -- i'm going to just speak for myself on this subject. and i'm raw on this subject. because of the hate that i have had directed at me for speaking the truth. i will speak the truth and i don't care who it is. rape is an abilities of violence and it becomes too often a tool in any abiliti act of war. and we must stand up for women everywhere. >> cnn's annie grayer is joining me now. annie, you've been covering this on capitol hill. what do we know about how this resolution is unfolding? congr congressman dingle ell said shey get republicans to sign on to it as well. >> yes, the goal is to get it in this week. but two congresswoman are involved in shaping this resolution. the other is congresswoman lois frankel who was a part of the progressive caucus but i'm told recently left the group because of frustrations over how the progressive caucus, the divisions over the war in israel and hamas. and so they are leading this charge and hoping to introduce the resolution at some point this week but i'm told that this was not in direct response to jayapal and not response to any lawmakers' comments. >> yeah, she said this is in the works for a while but obviously the comments from jayapal have thrust it into the public. just to bring people behind the scenes, with congresswoman frankel deciding to leave the progress ive caucus over this, t may seem semantic, but it underscores the divisions and emotions around this issue. i was struck by -- congresswoman dingell has been emotional about these things that happened and what was happened to her when people saying that what you are saying is not true. how are you reporting out the emotions and what is your sense from all the conversations that you are having of how this is playing out behind the scenes? >> xwleeemotions are at an all- high. since october 7, congress has been trying to come together around something to try to -- around the war. but reality is that there are so many different opinions even on the democratic side of thousand speak about the war and what side people are on, that it has been really hard to find a ton of unity on the subject and at times has gotten really tense between members. one issue with congresswoman jayapal's comments i'm told is that she is going on television and having interviews, speaking for herself, but she also stand for the chair of the progressive caucus which a broad group representing over 100 members. and some lawmakers tell me that they are frustrated that jayapal is out there speaking her opinion when it doesn't represent the entire conference and the conference hasn't taken an official position on the war. and jayapal's office is defending the congresswoman's comments and said that she always only speaks for herself and not the entire caucus. bithese are just some of the dynamics at play here. >> a really tricky situation although the reality is condemning rape, which is not a complicated one. annie grayer, thank you for being with us. appreciate your reporting. and still ahead here, a former u.s. ambassador now being accused of being a couban spy. and plus a house explodes in arlington, virginia. why police were there serving a warrant. and later four republican candidates will take the stage for the next presidential debate. who qualified and who didn't. with israel expanding their military operations in gaza, there continue to be questions about what is being done to protect the civilian population. an idf spokesperson was asked buyer by erin burnett to confirm a report that two civilians with your killed for every hamas fighter. >> i can confirm the report and i can say if that is true and i think that our numbers will be corroborated, if you compare that ratio to any other conflict in urban terrain between military and terrorist organization using civilians as human shields and embedded in the civilian population, you will find that that ratio is tremendously positive and perhaps unique. >> bianca nobilo oiis live for in london. wonderful to have you. i think that it is stark to hear human lives talked about in this mathematical way. what more do we know about what he had to say and how it is being received across the globe as -- obviously 5:00 here, 10:00 where you are in london -- this morning as officials have woken up to this. >> for any nonmilitary person, it is indeed stark, difficult to stomach. and probably a fairly repugnant concept to hear civilian life spoken about in any form of calculus or the idea that it can be justified to kill a civilian in order to achieve military objective. but of course that is the reality of war. to put this statement into the broader context to help the viewers understand what is being said here, in world war i and ii was around 60%. idf says around 33% of the fatalities are currently civilians. the lowest estimates were around that same ratio, but most likely they were much higher than that. and so they are framing it, even though it sounds so stark, as to try to underscore that they are actually doing a fairly good job in the contexts. and report cites that most more than wars have a civilian casualty rate of around 90%. solt idf is trying to communicate even though they have been widely criticized and our reporting has shown much evidence of it, of the civilian collateral damage, huge scale, they are trying to say actually within the context of modern war, we're doing a good job. and just to provide a little bit more information, so we heard from the israeli defense minister that thousands of terrorists have been killed. the afp reported that they pults the number of 5,000 hamas militants being killed to their sources. arnt the idf says that number is more or less right. but a very difficult conversation to have and also fundamentally we must point out that this rests on the premise that it is even possible to get really anything approaching an accurate picture of numbers in an active conflict and we know that that is just notoriously difficult prospects not to mention the propaganda value of any actor wanting to inflate the casualties that their side are receiving and deflate those that they are inflicting. >> it is fascinating information and context on that. and of course we know that the conflict is a kinetic one with much devastating loss of life and also an information war and we're seeing pieces of that play out here. bianca nobilo, thank you very much for sticking around with us. still ahead here, the stunning new research suggesting that stock traders might have known the october 7 attacks were coming. and more rain and snow out west, our weatherman derekek va dadam will joioin us up nextxt. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. we have quick hits across america. new research shows bets against israeli companies spiked before the hamas attack. it suggests that some traders might have known that it was coming and profited off of it. and an explosion leveled a virginia home where police were executing a warrant. officials say a suspect inside the house discharged a flare gun as officers tried to speak with him. moments later the house exploded. republicans on the house oversight committee released payments made by hunter biden to his father but neglected to include documents that say that he was repaying him for a pickup truck. james compaer say that he continues to lie. and more snow in the higher elevations, and there is back to back atmospheric rivers expected tomorrow. and here to explain the science behind that, derek van dam or weatherman. what is going on? >> i think best that our viewers think of it as a literal river in the sky, the ability for this to transport water vapor from the tropical regions of the planet to the mid latitudes where you and i live is incredible. and we're talking about a tremendous amount of water vapor. so much so that it is that the ability to transports giveequivt of 25 times of water that flows through the mississippi river. so atmospheric river produce significant rainfall and mountain snow. that is when the freezing level is far enough in altitude where we can get so much snow. but this time it is a little different because you can trace back the origin of this atmospheric river back to hawaii and that moisture means that it is pulling in this kind of tropical influence moisture, it will be a warmer atmospheric river event and we believe that it will be a rain event. so the know earlier in the week will melt, that will add to the flooding concerns because we have a legvel five of five. so a significant entsvent for oregon and washington. again, heavy rain on top of snow pack means quick melting and that allows for rivers to rise rather quickly. so the potential of flooding across that part of the country. >> and we'll keep an eye on that. thank you, derek, very much. appreciate it. see you tomorrow. and up next, israel ramps up incursion into gaza. is there any hope of getting the remaining hostages out. and on capitol hill, what republicans are demanding in exchange for aid to israel and ukraine. that is next. good morning. thanks for being up early with us. i'm kasie hunt. it is just before 5:30 on the east coast. and israel intensifying its military operations in gaza this morning with expanded ground operations including tanks rolling across the region. and more airstrikes in the south. tens of thousands of palestinians have fled to the rafah crossing in the last 48 hours. and the u.n. says the number of civilian casualties is rapidly increasing. correspond to hamas run health ministry, nearly 16,000 people are dead. mean while hostage negotiations remain stalled and u.s. officials say that they are unlikely to resume anytime soon. still eight americans unaccounted for. let's bring in kim dozier. always wonderful to have you. i want to show everyone what state department spokesman matthew miller said yesterday about why he thinks that -- and apparently why the u.s. government thinks -- hamas is refusing to release the remaining female hostages. of course negotiations contributed to the truce's collapse. watch. >> the fact that it seems one of reasons that they don't want to turn women over that they have been holding hostage and the reason the pause fell apart, they don't want the women to be able to talk about what happened to them during their time in custody. >> that is a very dark reality. what is underneath what he is saying here? >> israeli police force have collected more than 1500 accounts, be they physical evidence or eyewitness testimony, of hamas terrorists on women. mostly rape. just as a trigger warning to survivors out there, israeli government also showed some reporters that 47 minutes of edited video that included hamas militants filming themselves with gopro cameras committing various atrocities. and what we were shown was a lot of executions but also shown bodies that were in a state such that i later asked an idf official if they had video of militants committing every sort of atrocity including sexual violence that intelligence analysts had to watch and collate. and he said yes, they have. so that is driving i believe a lot of the ferocity of the israeli military resitary response and silence that is slowly begun to be broken within israel and now beyond about this violence that has been perpetrated and people are not willing to talk about it too much publicly yet. and the idf official i spoke to yesterday said that, yes, like u.s. officials, they believe that hamas doesn't want the women who have been abused the worst to come out yet to be released to tell their stories. >> so just to put a finer point on what you are saying, these cameras that the terrorists took with them in on october 7, they film ed themselves raping israei women possibly repeatedly. >> that is my understanding, that is one of the things that those hundreds hours of videos likely show. >> is the concern about the hostages that are inside gaza that they don't want to talk about what happened to them on october 7 or what they are continuing to experience a they are being held hostage in gaza? >> it could be both. there is also the chance that some of these people, some of the women, are being held by groups other than hamas who have raised much -- who have made greater demands of what israel has to do before they would release them. such as releasing thousands of palestinian prisoners now held in israeli jails. that is part of what has driven israel to return to fighting. and they are considering various plans to try to get to where they think the hostages are being held because they think that especially with the men, men of military age, soldiers who are being held, that none of the militant groups will release them until the fighting is done or release them until they are forced to. >> all right. kim dozier, thank you for being with us this morning. a tough topic but really important. really appreciate it. foreign policy is top of mind on capitol hill this week where volodymyr zelenskyy will address senators in a closed door briefing and plead for more aid as the white house issues its starkest warning yet about funding for ukraine. >> we're running out of money. and we are nearly out of time. a vote against supplemental funding for ukraine will hurt ukraine and help russia, it will hurt democracy and then dictators. >> republicans even some who have long advocated for more ukraine aid are now vowing to vote no on any supplemental funding for ukraine and israel if changes are not made to the u.s. border policy. for more, let's break in mika salner. frankly, they are running out of time. ek ukr especially ukraine is running out of time on this package before the end of the year. and it sounds like the border talks have basically collapsed at this point. what is the path forward here? >> yeah, there is a lot of frustration happening right now i think on both sides of the chambers. senate democrats are saying that they are being held hostage by r7s and we'rrepublicans and we' seeing a split. so i think that it is contingent on what the senate does in terms of aid but we're seeing some support dwindling. and we'll have more exclusive reporting on members like, you know, who are seeing that this is a lot more important and that the time is urgent to get the aid done later this morning in punch bowl news as well. >> and you just put that news letter out which we'll look at. and while i have you, i want to talk about a corollary to what i was talking about with kim dozier which is this very, very difficult issue of the rain of israeli women on the october 7 attacks and the possible continued sexual sauassaults of women being held captive. i spoke with debbie dingell about this and she revealed that she's been on the receiving end of harassment from people in the wake of her saying that this happened and asserting this to be true. take a look at what she told me yesterday. >> i will speak up against rape everywhere and anywhere. and as women, we must do so. it is an act of violence against a woman. >> you clearly -- this has been an emotional -- >> i've been dealing with it for search weeks. i've been doxxed on it three times. >> i was not aware that that had happened to her. i did know that she was an outspoken advocate of this. you can sp

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